In the aftermath of Sandy Hook, and the Batman murders, we're seeing more and more attention rightfully being given to the complicity, not of guns, but of bad drugs and an industry run amok... so while some of you like Senator Feinstein (who seems to have had a bill about gun control conveniently ready) are talking about another gun grab, maybe it's time the government should go after the real culprits: bad science, and big bad pharma:

Psychiatry goes insane: Every human emotion now classified as a mental disorder in new psychiatric manual DSM-5 Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038322_DSM-5_psychiatry_false_diagnosis.html#ixzz2FovqGT4l

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Elm on January 4, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    “Although we may not know it, we have, in our day, witnessed the birth of the Therapeutic State. This is perhaps the major implication of psychiatry as an institution of social control.” [Thomas Szasz M.D.]

    Psychiatry is pure sorcery – actually a weapon of social control that currently, has been recruited to demonize & pathologize moral & behavioral normalcy.

    • Robert Barricklow on January 4, 2013 at 8:31 pm

      Very good point.

  2. Brendan Lawrence on January 4, 2013 at 4:23 am

    I read on Wikipedia there are proposed major changes to the DSM-5, in relation to the diagnosis of personality disorders such as narcissism, antisocial/sociopathic, avoidant and histrionism, in addition “Include(s) a revamped definition of personality disorder and a dimensional rather than a categorical approach based on the severity of dysfunctional personality trait domains (negative emotionality, introversion, antagonism, disinhibition, compulsivity, and schizotypy)” (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5)

    I am wondering how this will affect diagnosis overall of people with these disorders? Whether it will accurately diagnose or a redefining of the assessment let some through the cracks?

  3. terminally skeptical on December 29, 2012 at 7:46 am

    amunaor thanks for the Rima Lebow link. It’s a shame that this message is being delivered by such a joyless being (Rima) because this detracts from the validity of the message. Fence sitters may be turn off from the presentation even though every word of it is true. She and, her husband, General Stubbblebine, are doing good work though I suspect many people in a shoot the messenger response have been scared off the message regarding their warnings.

    ELM and Hammer also thank you both as I’ve been following this thread and have learned from your Hess discussion. Also ELM again kudos for your in depth observations of the preemptive nature of psychotropical pharmaceuticals, and your compendium of ominous quotes that reveal our slow march into hell. I’ve embraced Rudolf Steiner’s keen insights (anthroposophy, etc.), as he much like Tesla was other worldly in his ability to illuminate (colloquially speaking) the esoteric.

    ELM Pasteur, I read somewhere years ago, abandoned his germ theory late during his lifetime though I can’t provide a reference right now. But by then the damage was done. We can only hope that sooner than later the masses will get wise to Bechamp’s biological terrain model.

    • Elm on December 30, 2012 at 5:09 am

      After rescuing the French wine industry from disaster, Nathan Straus of Macey’s Department store fame, adopted Pasteur’s technique to provide remedy for high mortality rates attributed to contaminated milk.

      Wikipedia records, “In 1892, [Nathan] and his wife privately funded the Nathan Straus Pasteurized Milk Laboratory to provide pasteurized milk to children to combat infant mortality and tuberculosis.”

      Further, Nathan and his wife Lina even published a book — “Disease in Milk: The Remedy Pasteurization : the Life Work of Nathan Straus.” So, whereas Pasteur had significant support both in France & then in America for a propagation of his germ theory of disease, Bechamp had little if any.
      It does seem however, for the conditions & knowledge of his day, Nathan Straus was a true & well meaning humanitarian. Everything must be analyzed within context, which is why we must take a fresh look at the conditions & practices under which Straus’ supported & funded a pasteurization of America’s milk supply. A chronological history of milk in America is provided by Ron Schmid in his book The Untold History of Milk. Regardless, Straus by heating milk to destroy pathogenic microbial contaminjation certainly curtailed the high death rates associated with contaminated milk during his time. However, high disease rates were not associated with traditional, but more with what became known as “Factory or Brewery Dairies in the years following the war of 1812.

      Brewery Dairies were also known as “Confinement Dairies,” because the cows were confined & force fed a hot acidic slop direct from the brewing process consisting of spent grains etc. Normally, cows are grass grazers & would not consume this defective fodder unless left with no other option. Schmid reports, these animals lived vastly shortened lives – 2-3 years, when a normal lifespan for a dairy cow is 12-13 years. Brewery dairy cows produced what was called “blue” or “swill” milk, due to its distinct blue tinge.

      So, defective food attracts pathogenic microbial contamination. Thus, sick cows which gave up defective Brewery Dairy milk, along with open bucket milking practices & sick milkers who sneezed & transferred their illness through droplet infection, were also making thousands of other people ill, including upwards of a 50% mortality rate among new births in New York.
      So, something had to be done to solve the immediate problem, & like the French wine industry, something also had to be done to save the Brewery Dairies who had abused cows & adulterated their products in the first place.
      So pasteurization, was adopted as compensation for aduleration. I suspect the blight that was destroying the French wine industry was associated with a lack of soil mineralization, thus, making wine vines susceptable to fungal contamination & their conversion into compost. Pathogenic microbes & all fungi are designed to recyle defective, damaged or depleted organic material into usable compost. Cancer functions the same.

      Today, we are still stuck with the original measure adopted to “compensate” for a defective product which was an outgrowth of an attempt to capitalize upon what would have been a waste product — that of spent grains from the distillation & brewing process. It was likely one of the first attempts to convert a waste product into profit, which of course gave rise to its own problems. Whereas immediate problems were solved, the adulteration of milk from an enzymatically complete whole food, to a sterile or enzymatically depleted or dead food, gave rise to long term degenerative illnesses, today which include colitis, crohn’s, autoimmune disfunction & arteriosclerosis. And homogenization added an additional dimension.

      Anyway, Ron Schmid’s “The Untold Story of Milk,” is a fascinating, insightful & important study in agricultural anthropology. Well worth the price of a book as well as your time to read it. To be sure, the only safe milk, is still Certified Raw Milk obtained from healthy grass grazed cows, just as it once was prescibed for a wide range of illnesses by Mayo Clinic until 1935. Mayo Clinic’s Raw Milk Treatment was suspended only with the imposition of pasteurization. Processed milk has no curative properties. Better to drink chaulk. Most of today’s food is minerally deficient as well as enzyme dead, the two most important factors to both human & animal health. The germ & gene theories of disease are accomodations to Commercial & Corporate Interests, that could care less for human health. “Problems” = Profit. The idea is to blame the victim, ignore the cause & capitalize upon the suffering.

      • terminally skeptical on December 30, 2012 at 9:07 am

        ELM one again, enjoyed your narrative. Your gift for comprehensive story telling is duly appreciated and an asset to both you and your audience.

        I recognized Strauss’ name in the dairy sector though his wine history was news to me. Thanks.

        Though I don’t have access to it myself on a regular basis I evangelize the merits of raw milk to others who as a group have a range of health issues. Most people don’t listen I assume because I’m not a doctor/expert and thus don’t take the time to cultivate an informed decision though over the years there are a few who have realized life changing benefits after heeding the suggestion.

        Are you familiar with ACRES magazine?

        Don’t forget the Comptom Rom interview when you have time. Let me know if you need a link

        • Elm on December 30, 2012 at 6:40 pm

          ACRES USA Magazine is an excellent source of information, fully deserving of all our support. Founder Charles Walters is a great humanitarian. His book “Fertility From The Ocean Deep,” largely based upon the work of Dr. Maynard Murray & his research into the dramatic mineral deficienies that have surfaced in most of today’s strip mined soils, & how this single correlates with diminished plant, animal & human nutrition & health are without equal.

          Walters’ 1991 Foreward to Julius Hensel’s 1893 ground breaking book Bread From Stones, is particularly instructive in the relationship of high CO2 levels with the techtonic system and the associated global cooling and glaciation, not global warming.

          Al Gore’s “Inconvenient Truth,” is pure propaganda designed for extortion & control, not any form of possible remediation.

          • Robert Barricklow on December 30, 2012 at 7:45 pm

            Convenient Propaganda for “carbon taxes” & carbon derivatives, Goldman-Sachs style.

          • Yaj on December 30, 2012 at 8:00 pm


            The tectonic system is cooling the globe? Is this one of those “the planet is shrinking” claims.

          • Elm on December 30, 2012 at 9:11 pm


            To memory, neither Charles Walters nor Juslius Hensel makes reference to either an expanding or contracting earth claim. My own research suggests the earth has been, & still is expanding by means of an “internal” core expansion as well as an external contribution & accumulation of material originating from “outer” space. There is likely also a link between biologic ionization – a biological ionization of sunlight, i.e., “photosynthesis,” which transmutes light, also adding organic mass into “existence.’ To be sure, all matter is bound up light.

            Professor & Cornel astro-physicist Thomas Gold in his book The Deep Hot Biosphere, is suggestive of an expanding inner earth core crystaline or diamond structure. Crystals grow & expand non? As Gold points out, diamond crystals emerge from deep within the earth — from a minimum depth of 40 kilobar (40,000 atmospheres), or at least 150K in depth. Graphite, which has gradually risen to earth’s surface, exhibits a similar crystaline structure to diamond. Diamond however, has been propelled rapidly to the earth’s surface ostensibly by means of a massive burst or “burp” of methane rising through one of a dozen or so well known “pipes,” like the South African Kimberly Pipes for instance, and thus, has also cooled quickly. This is crucial to the difference in graphite vs diamond. One could I suppose, refer to graphite as “unformed” or degraded diamond. Whereas diamonds aren’t “forever,” they are apparently for long enough, maybe too long for some.

            Further, the time frames & history of the earth as we have been so fastidiously trained to perceive it is, according to Immanuel Velikovsky in one of his many books, including Worlds In Collision, seriously skewed. Further, all we perceive to have a “material” existence, is regulated, defined & measured “into” existence through a use of specific frequencies, including, as Royal Raymond Rife determined, the cancer microbe. There are however, frequencies in accord with life & those discordant to life, & even those frequencies that can be either in accord or discord depending upon the strength or “volumn” of a frequency.

          • Yaj on December 31, 2012 at 6:09 am


            But what does that all have to do with “increased glaciation” and “global cooling”?

            Also, not seeing much evidence for the first.

          • jedi on December 31, 2012 at 6:17 am

            Elm, genesis 1.6 the firmament was formed and thrust above the waters. The firmament was called heaven.
            Note that before that happened, God said let there be light.

  4. Elm on December 28, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Just a few quotes apropo to our current circumstances…

    “We give our power away to the tyrants by our willingness to believe what they say instead of what we observe.” [Robert Cinque] “With the soul-shaking prospects out of such a horrifying reality, the increasingly famous prediction of Abraham Lincoln comes to mind: “If America is destroyed it will not be by a foreign power – but by suicide.” [Abraham Lincon]

    “…But our present “state” is the dictatorship of evil. “Oh, we’ve known that for a long time,” I hear you object, “and it isn’t necessary to bring that to our attention again.” But, I ask you, if you know that, why do you not bestir yourselves, why do you allow these men who are in power to rob you step by step, openly and in secret, of one domain of your rights after another, until one day nothing, nothing at all will be left but a mechanized state system presided over by criminals and drunks? Is your spirit already so crushed by abuse that you forget it is your right — or rather, your moral duty — to eliminate this system?” [Exerpt from The Pamphlets of the White Rose Society, 1942]

    “…Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be “governed” without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct — If the German people are already so corrupted and spiritually crushed that they do not raise a hand, frivolously trusting in a questionable faith in lawful order in history; if they surrender man’s highest principle, that which raises him above all other God’s creatures, his free will; if they abandon the will to take decisive action and turn the wheel of history and thus subject it to their own rational decision; if they are so devoid of all individuality, have already gone so far along the road toward turning into a spiritless and cowardly mass — then, yes, they deserve their downfall.”

    “…Therefore every individual, conscious of his responsibility as a member of Christian and Western civilization, must defend himself against the scourges of mankind, against fascism and any similar system of totalitarianism — Do not forget that every people deserves the regime it is willing to endure — The state is never an end in itself; it is important only as a condition under which the purpose of mankind can be attained.” [Ibid]

    Every generation must excise its own demons & tyrants, or be destroyed by them. As American poet Walt Whitman writes, ““There is no week nor day nor hour, when tyranny may not enter upon this country — if the people loose their supreme confidence in themselves — and loose their roughness and spirit of defiance — Tyranny may always enter — There is no charm — no bar against it — The only bar against it is a large resolute breed of men.” [From C.J. Furness, Walt Whitman’s Workshop, 1928]

    The time has come when men must declare himself for good or for evil, for truth or for falsehood, for freedom or servitude. The Orcs of Mordor are on the march, & there is no more west to go young man. Comport yourself in all your talents, strengths & abilities accordingly. Evil CAN be defeated, when enough good men DO something.

  5. amunaor on December 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Adam Lanza’s doctors speaks about State sponsored Drug Pushers:


    • Robert Barricklow on December 28, 2012 at 1:27 pm

      Thanks for this post.
      Another, in an already sadly, too long of list, that speaks to the sad state of “today’s” westernized medcine; that is being layed-out, before the alters of the all mighty Profit Gods.

      • Elm on December 28, 2012 at 7:55 pm

        “If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing about it? The recent practice of propaganda has proved that it is possible, at least up to a certain point and within certain limits.” [Control Freak – “Eddie” Bernays – Freud’s “Double” Nephew]

    • Hammer on December 30, 2012 at 3:07 am

      Doctor Laibow is a hero of mine. She has taken the time to correspond with me. I`ve been working in a psychiatric facility in Berlin for twenty years, and I can tell you, everything she says is the truth. Administering deadly drugs that just shut down the patient for the convienience of the staff is wide spread. When I asked the doctors if I could try out just a few vitamins and minerals to help the patients, I got laughed at, but they said ok. Of course, the patient had to pay for these suppliments themselves, but the ones who did, got better, and even moved out of the institution into society. Orthomolecular medicine is something most doctors or psychiatrist have never heard of or when they have, don`t believe it works. The fact of the matter is, psychiatric drugs shorten life and they make the few years left that a patient has a living hell.

      • terminally skeptical on December 30, 2012 at 8:53 am

        Hammer is that Berlin, Germany? If so, because of Commission E and common use of homeopathy there one might construe that they are open to alternatives in the healing arts. Then again your tale confirms that reliance on drugs are what defines, binds and bounds shrinks regardless of nationality.

        Years ago during a challenging time in my life I interviewed a couple of Jungian therapists as I was having frequent dreams and thought this modality might be well suited. Independently of one another hey both insisted that as a condition of being their client I would take meds at least in the short term to stabilize my moods. I never went back for a second visit to those one trick ponies.

        Don’t get me wrong I’ve great respect and admiration for Dr. Lebow but her dour sermons from the pulpit are a turnoff to those who won’t allow themselves to go beyond the veneer.

        I have a friend whose adult son is taking prescriptions for schizophrenia. Though we live on different continents with different health care structures I believe he needs to find a capable physician like Dr. Rima. It’s hard to fathom how otherwise intelligent people will sometimes suspend and subordinate their critical thinking to the opinions of an “expert”.

  6. Elm on December 27, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    In reference to Joseph’s Dec 20th broadcast, it is important to known Rudolph Hess was a student & initiate of Karl Haushofer, who was for a time, the German ambassador to Japan. The website “Hitler’s Mentors” states Hess & Haushofer were both gays & thought to have been lovers.
    Nevertheless, Haushofer is one of the most important figures to the early development of Nazi history & such groups as Vril & Thule. See, “Morning of the Magicians: Secret Societies, Conspiracies, and Vanished Societies,”
    by Louis Pauwels & Jacques Bergier. Haushofer importance & significance to the development of Nazi fascism deserves an entire book.

    • Hammer on December 28, 2012 at 4:59 am

      Hi Elm, I wanted to originally respond to the tidbit on psychiatry since I`ve been working in this field for the last twenty years, but after reading your comment I thought I might recommend a book called, “The Lonliest man on Earth” by Lt. Colonel Eugene K. Bird, who was one of the allied commandants who rotated with other allied commanders guarding Rudolph Hess. I was aquainted with Colonel Bird through my affiliation with the Berlin Brigade. Colonel Bird told me some very interesting things about Rudolph Hess. Herr Hess was the real deal as far as occultist go. He was, in Colonel Bird`s terms, a “devil worshiper”. He also told me he knew Herr Hess was murdered and who was on duty when it happened. By the way, Colonel Bird was a Knight of Malta. But getting back to psychiatry, one of the side effects of clozapine or “Leponex” is “sudden death syndrom”. Have a good day.

      • Yaj on December 28, 2012 at 3:08 pm

        Only works: If the real Hess were in Spandau. (Which is possible.)

        • Hammer on December 29, 2012 at 2:49 am

          Yaj, you can believe me, it was the real Hess. All governments have their high priests, just like the egyptians. People are so ignorant about human history that they believe such things don`t exist in modern times. But they do. Human sacrifice has been a part of world history. And now, we`re killing more people than ever. Times change, but human nature doesn`t.

          • Yaj on December 29, 2012 at 5:22 am

            Not sure about killing more people than ever, think that’s a 1925 to 1970 thing.

            Sure the Nazis could have been trying to use/contact occulted forces, and Hess could have been one of the priests. That doesn’t mean that the Hess in Spandau Prison was necessarily the real Hess, doesn’t mean it was a fake Hess either.

            In fact I’m suspect of anyone who says: “Hess told me all while he was in Spandau and I was the warden, and from this I conclude that Hess was a high priest of X, Y or Z.”

      • Elm on December 28, 2012 at 10:17 pm

        Nazi pederast Julius Streicher was also deeply into the occult, as was “The Black Jesuit” Heinrich Himmler.

      • Elm on December 28, 2012 at 11:36 pm

        Thanks for your suggestion Hammer. Years ago I was speaking with a fellow who had co-authored The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality In The Nazi Party, and at the time he actually mentioned Colonel Bird. Apparently Bird had taken him on the grand tour of Nazi underground bunkers & installations in Berlin etc. Said he was quite an fascinating fellow with deep insights. Interesting Bird was also a Knight of Malta.

        • Hammer on December 29, 2012 at 2:07 am

          Hi Elm ,I find it interesting that when one talks personally with people who are involved in the “scene”, they can`t wait to tell you what they know. I met Senator James Buckley who couldn`t wait to tell me he was flying to Europe to head “Voice of America”. Colonel Bird`s career was effectively ended when they found out he was writing a book about the discussions he had with Hess. He gave Hess his first tv set. But Hess knew who in the british royalty was aiding Hitler. The nazis never really lost the war. They are controling things today under the name of the Bilderberg Group, but actually the “B” on their logos stands for Bormann Group phase II.Bilderberg is just a ruse for nazis.

          • Hammer on December 29, 2012 at 2:18 am

            Sorry, I meant Bormann Continuity Group Phase II.

  7. bdw000 on December 23, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Timothy Leary once said that one reason he got out of mainstream “psych” (I don’t remember if he was a psychologist or psychiatrist) was because, the results of “treatment” were: one third of psych patients improved, one third got worse, and one third stayed the same.

    And that happens to be exactly the results you get when you do nothing at all to psych patients.

    In other words, psych treatment is no better than doing nothing at all to psych patients.

    • jedi on December 30, 2012 at 10:04 am

      Agent double 6 6 Timmy was a west point graduate and ww2 oss operative and Manson cellmate.

  8. LSM on December 23, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    there is a huge difference between psychology and psychiatry- and I have no respect whatsoever for psychiatry- I have several friends who are consulting psychologists who (the friends) are increasingly having a more positive view of life and are finally coping with their traumas (IMPROVING!) whereas everyone I know who has been in psychiatric ‘therapy’ has been medicinally drugged by the shrink (good name) and continue to deteriorate at an ever increasing rate-

    start with my former life’s partner- after I made the break due to his increasing irrationality I went through almost a year of hideous tel. terror until he finally realized I really had saved and subsequently burned all of his hysterical, ranting, shreiking middle-of-the-night calls onto a CD (I’m not as stupid as I look) and subsequently presented the CD to his full-bearded (so what’s HE trying to hide?!) shrink-

    the shrink’s reaction: these phone calls were irrelevant due to the ‘possible’ use of alcohol- and after 20 seconds he refused to listen any farther- I kid you not-

    I refer to the man as Siegmund FRAUD and his son-in-law was Edward Bernays, father of marketing- take it from there-


    • incognito on December 23, 2012 at 1:50 pm


      So this was a same-sex marriage?

      • LSM on December 23, 2012 at 2:17 pm

        after I ansered with agreement to you and wished you well on one of your previous postings you asked me with passive agressiveness not to comment on any of your postings again- so why do you now choose to comment on one of my postings if you think my viewpoints are moot?- let’s do a gentleman’s agreement: I won’t comment on your viewpoints if you don’t comment on mine, OK?


        So this was a same-sex marriage?”

        continue to laugh your ass off- no marraige was involved

        • Robert Barricklow on December 23, 2012 at 4:06 pm

          My favorite “marraige” quip came from an old black & white news clip of a very young Bob Hope.
          A reporter noticing a “ring” on Bob’s finger; points, asking, “Your married?”
          Bob Hope looks at his ring and replies in a dead serious tone,
          “Happiness isn’t everything.”

    • amunaor on December 24, 2012 at 1:22 pm

      Edward Bernays, the American nephew of Sigmund Freud, invented modern propaganda. Bernays went from Enrico Caruso’s publicist to WW1 propagandist and repackaged propaganda as “Public Relations”. Herbert Hoover applied Bernays ideas to turn Americans into the consumers industry needed. These same tools, operating on the psyche, but utilizing fear, have been employed by the same “Public Relations Firms” to sell the “Global war on Terror”, as if they were peddling soap or toothpaste.

      During the First World War, he was one of a group of influentials who mounted a secret government campaign to persuade reluctant Americans to send an army to the bloodbath in Europe. In his book, Propaganda, published in 1928, Bernays wrote that the “intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses was an important element in democratic society” and that the manipulators “constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power in our country”. Instead of “Propaganda”, he coined the euphemism “Public Relations”.

      The American tobacco industry hired Bernays to convince women they should smoke in public. By associating smoking with women’s liberation, he made cigarettes “torches of freedom”. In 1954, he conjured a communist menace in Guatemala as an excuse for overthrowing the democratically elected government, whose social reforms were threatening the United Fruit Company’s monopoly of the banana trade. He called it a “liberation”.

      So yes, along side the state sponsored pill pushers of Big Pharma, Psychiatry is another sick edifice in need of dismantling.

    • Elm on December 26, 2012 at 6:44 pm

      Psychiatry & its poison coal tar based pharmaceuticals, are pure sorcery. For an insight into the effects of psychiatry & a follow-through on MK-ULTRA & Machurian Clones, view the scene in the movie JUST VISITING starring French Actor Jean Reno, in particular pay attention to the scene early in the film in which a sorceress is asked to formulate a poison potion to produce a distortion of perception in Reno who plays Count Thibault. This movie is actually a fairly good comedy.

      A key figure in the MK-ULTRA & Monrach programs, was Donald Ewen Cameron, also President of the International, American, Canadian & International Psychiatric Associations, Cameron was the CIA sponsored head of “driving” experiments conducted at McGill University in Montreal Canada. The idea was to wipe (wash) the brain clean of past memory to prepare for new software. There are also other substances like “Devil’s Breath,” known as Scopolamine, considered by some to be the most dangerous – but likely one of the most covertly useful, drugs in the world. Often used as a date rape drug, the victim, or possibly the operative, recalls nothing, even rape or emptying one’s bank account. There’s a documentary about this on the web.

      In reprograming with new “software,” the brains (hard drives) of MK-ULTRA & Monarch clones (victims) are compartmentalized just as one would also partition a computer hard drive. So the idea is simply to trigger access to another partitioned sector of the “hard drive.” Think “Holmes,” & the current mass shooting to engineer a pretext for disarming the American people – an engineering of pretext for social, political & military action.

      “Eddie” Bernay’s was a control freak who sold his services to those willing to pay, & Rockefeller, as controller of the gigantic tobacco trust as well as many other trusts, was just such a willing client, thus “Torches of Freedom.” Somewhere along the way, normal tobacco was adulerated with “sauces” as a vector for an introduction of illness, ie., create the problem – provide the remedy. Thus, Big Tobacco & Big Pharma are flip-sides of the same coin.

    • paul de gagne on December 27, 2012 at 10:07 am

      I would take a psychiatrist any day over PHD’s in Psychology. (in fact I am seeing a psychiatric intern who wants to be a forensic psychiatrist for help on my day-to-day difficulties. And she recommends Erickson and Otto Rank too!) The added medical knowledge could make a big difference and besides — it is like having a family doctor and a therapist for the price of one. (she also translates the abstract medical terms into plain english for dense-me to understand!)

      I think money is the root of the problem with Psychiatry. They just got to have it!!! To pay off huge loans, malpractice insurance, staff, etc…! AND, like a little bit of knowledge being very dangerous, a little bit of money (financial success as a payoff for looking the other way or free vacation trips or using this product instead of another, etc.) may corrupt good doctors who might have acted otherwise given different circumstances.

      I read somewhere psychiatrists are at the bottom of the status totem pole when it comes to being considered Scientists? (they are really) I also heard on the average Psychiatrists don’t give a shit anymore about cures> Too much trouble for so little gain. (I heard its more like a garbage disposal service = unclogg Society’s Pipes? (Man, that is an awful statement but when you think of Mass Society think…..?)

      Pill Pushers if you ask me? The State has given Psychiatrists the power to grant benefits or to deny benefits both legal and financial. That kind of power is nothing to shake a stick at.

      My beef with PHD Psychologists is generally “psychology” is all they know. Studying in a lonely room with no distractions or some study-hall for hours and days on end learning only, sic – so called technical psychology for years produces an expert IN technical-psychology and dummies in the world of Literature, Politics, Philosophy, Art etc. — get my point?. Also being stuck in these halls they generally aren’t well traveled and know Zilch of the real world outside of their chosen profession. ( they sometimes learn much if their clients are unique if their lucky!)

      I would love to be a licensed Therapist to some big shot on Wall St for then I could cheat the cheaters, ha, ha and buy that cabana I always dream about in some Carib Island!

      Sometimes I like and need a good doctor despite all that. My real beef is with the PSYCHOTROPICS given out like candy to whoever stumbles into their sic-business, ops -therapy office?

      I heard of the scandel of pushers dishing out LSD to kids in puberty but that’s nothing to what psychologist do. What’s worst is the movement to allow Psychologist to get into the act. It’s coming soon folks!

      That’s not to say drugs don’t work. I’ve seen people hitting telephone poles blooding their fists who are off the meds in just two days. Also hysterical raving lunatics when off the meds. Sure — make sure they have their little pills but I also saw people with mild problems without much symtoms except they live in a sick and dumbed-down-society start to exhibit symptoms or reactions that mimic the very illnesses they are diagnosed with the next day they take this so called healing medicines. They stopped the meds and walked away understanding that ‘being alive and awake both at the same time is no easy task!”

      I’ll quit rambling for now. I suggest you read a few books written by a “Martha Staurt” about next door neighbors so this way you can be a better judge of character before running to find another partner IF that is on your mind.

      I said too much for today so I will shut my big mouth and retreat to the peanut gallery stan

      • Robert Barricklow on December 27, 2012 at 11:59 am

        The whole “Werternized(read corporatized) Medicine” is a as another Rockefeller Profit Center. Somewhere in the mix the word “health”, used simply as anillusionary health excuse, but hidden by the wizard’s curtain is the real sine qua non of Western Healthcare: PROFIT.

        • Elm on December 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm

          “…There is no anti-depressant that will cure a depression that’s spiritually based, for the malaise doesn’t originate from brain dysfunction, but from an accurate response to the desecration of life.” [David R. Hawkins – Power Vs Force]

          “…If science had followed the insightful Béchamp instead of the mendacious Pasteur, we would never have seen either pesticides or toxic drugs. As we all know, science didn’t follow that path, and that was due to political and social manipulation by the self-important Pasteur. We remain under the sway of his personality’s stamp upon history.”

          Note: Though Pasteur’s sense of self-importance may have played a role, making Pasteur susceptable to flattery & public notariety, the interests of the Cartel have been well served by Pasteur’s germ, rather than Béchamp’s terrain theory of disease. Correct the terrain & the disease will depart. It may also be observed, Pasteur’s germ theory of disease, is likely from whence the idea of a defective gene or genetic predisposition to disease is also predicated. The idea is always to frame & blame the victim for external factors, like defective food & environment toxins & discordance. Pasteur’s model served this purpose, of scapegoating the victim & deceiving the victim into perceiving themselves to be defective. One mighty even identify this as, the “100 Year Crime” against mankind.

        • paul de gagne on December 29, 2012 at 8:31 am

          I thought about reading more about Rockerfeller’s influence on Medicine but to be honest I know it would just makes me sick to my stomach to see how the ‘few’ can manipulate the “many”, especially, in such a vital field as Medicine.

          I was going to add two more ideas I forgot to mention (rockerfeller’s influence but reading Farrell viewpoints I imagine it would be already known around here?)

          The first point I forgot to add about Psychiatry is that it is a Field of Medicine and the Hypocratic Oath Applies. It is my understanding that in the translation from the Greek to English something important gets left out or lost. ( I am taking the word of a reader because I don’t know Greek but I did have two years of Latin yrs. ago but that’s another story)

          1st do no harm may mean = Harm being not knowing or DON’T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT THE HELL IT IS ONE IS DOING!

          Now that certainly can apply to all this gene research but more in the product being dished out to us rather than the research but even that is risky.

          I heard a rumor some scientist in Europe didn’t show up for work for a few days so somebody went looking for him?her? and found him dead from a disease/virus? created in a laboratory that could have wiped out a third of the European Peoples.

          Now I don’t know if this is JUST PARANOID propaganda but it does give one, like Farrell says, Pause to Stop and Think?

          • jedi on December 30, 2012 at 10:07 am

            do no harm…aka thou shalt not kill……..ANYTHING

            all big animals are Vegan…..just an observation.

      • terminally skeptical on December 27, 2012 at 12:10 pm

        May I suggest a good flogging to take the mind off what ails ya and leave those shrinks alone.

      • Elm on December 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm

        To understand the depth of what’s at stake, obtain a copy of Richard Leviton’s 2000 book, “phy-si-cian: Medicine and the Unsuspected Battle for Human Freedom.” Primarily, allopathic medicine is Malthusian – the medical version of, “The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism” by Naomi Klein. The basic point is this, the symptoms of disease are nothing, the terrain everything. Stated differently, the symptoms of disease are profit & control, whereas remedies refute the symptoms. To allopathy, symptoms are preferable to remedies.

        To infect human beings with vaccinations containing foreign DNA (a standing wave of vibrational information), is the equivalent of GMO crops, in which an insecticide is fused into the plant itself – this, to compensate for a diminishing & corruption of what already is a defective Corporate terrain. Basically, our terrain, soils, food, social media, etc., is being intentionally collapsed – this commensurate with recommendations contained within the leaked 1967 unofficial document Report From Iron Mountain called to undermine all human systems & environments. What you are dealing with, is a stealth & more scientific method of soft, but progressive genocide, that capitalizes upon death & suffering, in a decades long process that actually manufactures the problem & provides the remedy. Thus, the “remedy” often exists long before the problem can be brought to fruition. Simply stated, “problems are profit.”

        So, this “problems are profit” economic ideology, is Malthusian. The engine of the Malthusian economy of mutual predation is sickness & disaster, i.e., the Rise of (Allopathy &) Disaster Capitalism. Call it “The March of The Malthusians.” A more cohesive & complete picture forms once one breaks through the barriers erected to perception through compartmentalization. But as French microbiologist Antoine Béchamp states, “terrain is everything, the germ (or gene) is nothing.” Indeed, both the gene & germ therories of disease are inverted falsehoods, that blame (scapegoat) the victim for defective genes, while leaving issues of terrain unidentified. Nothing like blaming the victim of pathologies produced by the system itself. A simple example of this, is the false diagnosis of lactose intolerance, that because of one’s inability to digest lactose milk sugar, that one is “lactose intolerant,” whereas the true diagnosis is lactase milk enzyme deficiency – a defect in what is referred to as modern “milk,” caused by pasteurization. See, “The Untold Story of Milk” by Ron Schmid.

        • terminally skeptical on December 27, 2012 at 7:53 pm

          I hadn’t until your illumination considered allopathic medicine as an expression of Malthusian economics. Bingo!

          Towards the ends of their lives both Pasteur and Darwin rebuked the “theories” that to this day are associated with their work. But by then their names had been hijacked to accommodate the Malthusian model of survival in a hostile world. Indeed consistent with Robert B.’s recent observations regarding cancer, disease thrives only where the biological terrain will permit.

          Listen to an interview with a microbiologist named Comptom Rom.

          • Elm on December 27, 2012 at 8:38 pm

            Just to explain, whereas “illumination” is associated with the Illuminati, & an appearance only of light or luminosity, to be en-light-ened, is to be filled with light, thus the “enlightenment.” I do however, understand your colloquial use of the word & your intention to convey a meaning of en-lighten-ment.

            Enlightenment and illumination are actually opposites – the enlightenment being undermined & destroyed by illumination – the embodiment of a consumate contradiction between substance and form, that even though “illuminated” the vessel contains darkness, thus seducing a people into the embrace of their own destroyers. Tied in the “illumination,” is the Luciferic Principle, which is the art or craft of concealing darkness & death in light, thus, sexual liberation becomes sexual bondage.

            It must be remembered, Lucifer is referred to as the “fallen” angel because he rebelled against God, but further, Lucifer is “fallen” because even though luminous he contains darkness & like a Vampire has no life of his own, but takes it from the living. This makes the Illuminati pirates of the soul or from a monetary perspective as it represents ones moral & ethical intention in the form of current, Currency Pirates or Parasitical & spirirually dead entities. A fellow by the name of Rich Zubaty made an eclectic DVD availabe on the web for viewing titled, Corporate Vampires. Interesting. Also, see Lincoln: Vampire Slayer. A very important film that reveals a deeper truth.

            I will check out Compton Rom. Thank you.

      • Robert Barricklow on December 28, 2012 at 11:34 am

        Another bullseye!
        A doctor that is also trying to get out the “allopathic medicine” hoax:

  9. duncan mckean on December 22, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    if you are watching the BIG picture IMO.mix a little rat sink mixed with the war on definition mixed with ones world view being just one in a herd of cattle that need to be controlled …wha la who needs drugs to go crazy.i knew we were in trouble when
    (1980’s)a few power activists thought bugs bunny cartoons were too violent.the whole irresponsible paradigm took hold and has backfired??.sometimes looking into the fire is vastly more interesting than ones i-phone.??there will most likely be more of this??.powerful darkness and powerful brightness is upon us.just another simpletons view .

  10. Robert Barricklow on December 22, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    This segways nicely into what Catherine Austin Fitts was saying/that it is fundamentally important to understand how drugs and money work in society. That it has become abundantly clear that the War on Drugs is meant to continue and that the consequences will continue to show up in the nation’s hospitals, emergency wards, and prisons. Unfortunately, the drug epidemic is also fueling a very profutable financial holocaust that is impacting not only inner-city neighborhoods, but the entire economy. It is not just the billions of dollars of wholesale capital movement, defaulted HUD mortgages, U.S. Treasury intervention in the market, FED bailouts of hedge funds, and IMF bailouts of Wallstreet investors, money laundering out of Russia, or narcotics trafficking but ordinary people and businesses being destroyed. The currency is also being debased , which is another form of taxation. I could go on & on. But while the parents are under financial attack, the children are the targets of both LEGAl & ILLEGAL drug trafficking. The children are being deliberately dumbed down in crumbling schools, and the parents’ small business equity is being extracted from under them by the religion of free trade buttressed by intl trade agreements.
    The cruel twist is that citizens are funding the financial ruin that is killing them an their children.
    The silent weapons are working as designed.

    • Yaj on December 22, 2012 at 6:43 pm

      Quotations: “IMF bailouts of Wallstreet investors” Source?

      “The currency is also being debased , which is another form of taxation.” The US dollar is up against the Euro. And no a less valuable dollar is not a form of taxation unless the percent paid as taxes goes up. Then the obvious: a less expensive dollar–not worthless–makes things like US made airliners and Caterpillar bucket loaders more likely to be purchased around the world.

      • incognito on December 22, 2012 at 7:50 pm

        Well, let’s see here, Mr Yaj. You state:

        “The US dollar is up against the Euro.” Bankster debt money versus bankster debt money. Basically slavery versus slavery. Besides, the replacement for the dollar looks like it’s coming from a gold-backed Yuan or IMF SDR.

        “And no a less valuable dollar is not a form of taxation unless the percent paid as taxes goes up.” What? With the huge deficits this country runs because of the deindustrialization (some call it “globalization”) of America where pretty much everything is imported, and a currency with less purchasing power is not a tax on Americans??? I’m not even going to address the part about taxation going up or whatever that meant. This fake economy, this funny money, debt fueled economy is crashing. Raise taxes? Maybe on Wall Street and every multinational that has benefitted from the export of the American Dream. How’s that?

        “Then the obvious: a less expensive dollar–not worthless–makes things like US made airliners and Caterpillar bucket loaders more likely to be purchased around the world.” You, sir, must be a lobbyist for the Business Roundtable or the US Chamber of Commerce. Again, multinationals do not represent the vat majority of Americans. Indeed, their hijacking of our economic policies has been the cause of 50 million Americans on food stamps. You must excuse me but you’re either a paid troll or somebody supremely brainwashed.

        Any other comments you’d like addressed?

      • Robert Barricklow on December 23, 2012 at 7:10 pm

        Do you qustion the IMF bailouts, or simply where I got that?

        Perhaps you know the story of how you tell the difference between a baby chick/ female or male.
        You don’t!
        At least in terms of explaining the difference. It is learned “unconsciously” by being immershed in a training ritual originated by the Japanese It takes about a couple of weeks.
        I don’t knpow how long you’ve been at this, but it’s not done overnight.
        I truly admire “truthseekers” like yourself, and the way you temper the steely truths here, by challeging “sources”, ect.
        But it does take alot of reading and blind alley searches.
        Keep up the good work.
        But do occasionaly go down some blind alleys & draw some crooked lines.
        At least, I don’t have to tell you about taking any “official truths” to heart.

        • Yaj on December 25, 2012 at 5:43 pm

          I want a source for the assertion about IMF bailouts of US ibankers.

          Not a silly comment about genitalia.

      • Elm on December 26, 2012 at 7:02 pm

        Currency is an expression of the moral & ethical intentions of the human individual and a people. That the current system is an expression contrary to the interests of the American people is endemic to the nature of a Privately controlled, interest bearing currency. Those who do not control their own currency also forfeit control of both their most fundamental political & economic outcomes. Such a system is one of economic servitude & a regurgitation of Old World Order Feudal Collectivism. Money, or “currency,” functions like electric “current.” The issue is, whether a control of national currency is enacted through bodies reponsive to the needs of the people, or whether a currency is regulated & manipulated by Private/Pirate interests. What we have today in the Federal Reserve, are currency Pirates who plunder & destroy wealth, rather than build & create weath.

        • Robert Barricklow on December 26, 2012 at 7:37 pm

          Absolute bullseye Elm.
          And they are tightening the austerity noose.
          There could be 100% employment; and, more importantly, a system based on life & renewual/instead current privated for the miniscule one of extraction & death.

          • Elm on December 27, 2012 at 12:38 am

            Agreed. What you are referring to is a mutually affirmative & open-ended economy of unlimited potential & possibility, not a closed system of limited possibility & potential predicated upon mutual predation, the latter a Feudalistic Malthusian economy.

            For a greater recognition of the human potential, refer to the economic philosophy of American born Henry George, who refutes the pretenses of a British born Thomas Malthus, from whom Darwin gleened much of his thinking about “survival of the fittest” or “natural” selection, which wasn’t very natural. Applied Darwinism, is in practice, a severe form of unnatural selection & a product of the Malthusian perspective predicated upon one of two suppositions put forth by Malthus – that of population outstripping available resources & the definition of wages as a demand or liability upon the wealth or capital of the Land”Lord.”

            To be sure, all labor creates its own wage. Labor is neither a demand nor a liability upon the capital or wealth of another. This is the first inversion, that leads to a destruction of a free society, that being, all free men own their labor & the fruits therefrom. Labor & wages are neither a cost nor a liability of production, but an asset apportioned fairly between capital & compensation.In the current economy, the claims of labor have been undermined by profit, the primary focus of the Feudalistic Corporate Collective.

          • Robert Barricklow on December 28, 2012 at 11:36 am

            Essential economics.
            Another great post.

    • jedi on December 28, 2012 at 8:27 am

      that is a synopsis of American Gangster

      kids coming home in body bags via Govt paid off personel, heroin concealed in there coffins and the importer saying this stuff is worth its weight in gold.

      ….hidden in plain sight

    • Elm on December 28, 2012 at 10:21 pm

      The so-called “war on drugs” (competion) is an opiate of the police state.

      • jedi on December 30, 2012 at 7:41 am

        your posts are amazing, informative and truthful.

        There is a doctor that treats alcoholics with vitamins, Larsen I think, 90 percent success rate after 1 year. AA however has a 10 percent effect rate (AA also blames the victim/ patient). I think its Karen Larsen….she was motivated after her son committed suicide with his “modern” treatment.

        The pasteruized milk posts were highly informative. Another evil spawn that came out of that, was the shutting down of hundreds of small cheese producers, whose products were sought after worldwide to be controlled by, through centralization of Kraft food industries. Enforced of course by big bro.

    • paul de gagne on December 29, 2012 at 8:43 am

      Something this K. Fitts wrote really gets to me! Using drug-laundered money through HUD to build privatized Prisons. (it kind of makes “dark sense” for I also heard (I don’t know how true?) that Chenney has or had 60 million of his own money invested in this Prison Complex business.

      It’s a Hotel(er)’s wet dream. Have a guest that cant CHECK OUT for life and having the tax-payers foot the bill!

      Now just imagine this if you care to — steal or redirect the lion’s share of new money going toward education in the ghetto to big Pharma? Now you would have a whole shitload of future guests who unlike Hotel California can NEVER CHECK OUT OF THIS NIGHTMARE!

      Pretty Morbid if you must ask me. I better stop now!

      • Robert Barricklow on December 29, 2012 at 9:39 am

        Reminds me of the so-called first wave of globalization on the high seas, where Samuel Johnson basically called On Her Majesty’s ships on the high seas, “floating prisons”.
        No they’ve expanding thos ships boundaries to virtual ships of state.
        And it’s where one finds himself/herself today:
        Between the devil & the deep blue sea.

    • paul de gagne on December 31, 2012 at 8:40 am

      If we have the software that the government robbed off of C. Fitts we could follow the money.

      It’s probably outdated by now but I was thinking of a video by Ralph Nader who said, “Who has a quarter of a million dollars to spend trying to find out who own the nursing home where your grandmother was abused?” It may take that much if your lucky ust to find out who the hell owns it!

      The manager of the home or the workers don’t carry much insurance and punishing them may help but doesn’t prove real oversight. One has to financially hit the real owners where it really hurts and that isn’t between the legs but right next door in their pockets!

  11. incognito on December 22, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    What a nightmare society. And they want it to go global too. Feinstein’s Mossad all the way, that dirty hag.

    I wonder how this is all going to end. Are you people going to allow them to ship you to concentration camps and kill millions? When are you going to grow a pair?

    I was just listening to Dr Len Horowitz. You know that the practice of vaccination itself is contrived and counterproductive? Vaccination! My God, talk about crimes against humanity. Where’s the goddman army? When are they going to defend the American people and uphold their oath to the constitution???? Either a nationwide strike (never happen with the zioconned media) or a goddamn military coup with a clear indication of who it’s against by stringing them all up (everbody knows who thy are)!!!

    Is everybody bought off in this society or what!!??!?!?

    • Yaj on December 22, 2012 at 6:28 pm

      Witch particular vaccines do you have in mind as problems? Or is it all? And why should the military be permitted to act without civilian authority?

      • incognito on December 22, 2012 at 7:19 pm

        Civilian authority? You must be a troll.

        I could go into this long rant listing their crimes and illigitemacy but why bother. If you are indeed so naive (I’m being polite here), why don’t you listen to what your “civilian authority” has really been up to:


        As to the vaccination manipulation, listen to Dr Horowitz yourself:


      • incognito on December 22, 2012 at 7:29 pm

        My response to you is “awaiting moderation” because it contains two links.

        And by the way, it isn’t just vaccine manipulation; they invented AIDS. Yes, that’s right, Harvard-trained doctor Leonard Horowitz is pointing the finger for not just vaccine manipulation but for AIDS, H1N1 etc tc etc at your “civilian authority”. (SPIT)

        Click on the links and listen to the interviews for yourself, sir. (once my comment is approved)

        • incognito on December 22, 2012 at 7:33 pm

          And it’s actually ILLEGITIMACY.

          • Yaj on December 23, 2012 at 10:06 am

            What and the military was never involved any illegal activities within the US, including germ warfare? Bull.

            And you’ve just encouraged the military to add to the illegalities.

            The problem is now you’re making claims about “vaccine manipulation”, that’s significantly different than your first claims about vaccines in general (and yes I’m aware of some who are against any and all vaccines.)

          • incognito on December 23, 2012 at 11:07 am

            Yaja, Yaja, Yaja… you must be young.

            You state:

            What and the military was never involved any illegal activities within the US, including germ warfare? Bull.

            In the CIA, in the FBI, in Customs, in DHS (well, maybe not DHS), in the military, the ones carrying out dirty deeds are always a small cabal associated with the same scumbags over and over again. You mist not have listened to the link I posted about what your “civilian authority” has really been up to. The White House has been infested since the JFK coup d’état. I know that there are good people in all these organizations. For instance, when DHS bought 1.5 billion hollow point bullets, a retired 3-star general spoke out about the need for the US military to defend the American people (DHS is Israeli/Rothschild run).

            And you’ve just encouraged the military to add to the illegalities.

            Like I said, you are a very naive young man. There is a silent war being waged upon us. They’ve got all kinds of weaponry and are very well organized. We the People have no information service that can organize us. The military does, however, know that Mossad-CIA banksters carried out the 911 mass murder. They are awake. I’m guessing they think thatif they move againt the banksters the banksters will crash the dollar and all hell will break loose. And they control the media so they can lie about what’s going on.

            The problem is now you’re making claims about “vaccine manipulation”, that’s significantly different than your first claims about vaccines in general (and yes I’m aware of some who are against any and all vaccines.)

            No, sir. I’m saying that the practice of vaccination itself, something we all grow up believing is normal and good, is a perversion. I’m not the one saying this although I agree with Dr Horowitz.

            Listen, it’s obvious from your answers that you have not listened to the links I provided. Like my elementary school teacher used to say,

            “Empty barrels make most noise!!”

            either get educated so you can give an informed opinion or STFU.

        • Robert Barricklow on December 23, 2012 at 10:14 am

          Your absolutely right incognito.
          Many people are sadly ignorant of this.
          At most, they “suspect” something is, just not, quite right. I’am afraid, I was one of their number, until, I ran across various sources that clued me in.

          The best for me I posted here as well:

          • Yaj on December 23, 2012 at 11:13 am


            Most of what you rant is not backed up, particularly the claims about who pulled off the Sept 2001 attacks.

            The Dept of Homeland Security is mostly a combination of agencies that already existed, like the US Coast Guard. If you think it’s run by some foreign power, then present the evidence.

          • Robert Barricklow on December 23, 2012 at 11:31 am

            You need to see the movie “Z”
            Created by Costa-Gavras, 1969
            French(english subtitles), 127 minutes.

      • incognito on December 23, 2012 at 12:55 pm

        The education of Yaja continues!! Boy, am I patient or what??

        So, who ran DHS after the 911 inside job/mass murder of Americans?


        The title of the video is: Michael Chertoff continues the 911 coverup on c span.

        Chertoff’s parents were Mossad. He holds both Israeli and American citizenship. He was the one who allowed all the evidence of 911 to be destroyed (like the steel which was chopped up at zionist owned scrap dealers and then shipped to Asia -which did not make sense economically).

        For a thorough indictment of the foreign power which runs DHS and commitetd the 911 mass murder of Americans, see bollyn.com. This site documents who Chertoff and all the major players are. He gives his book, Solving 9-11, away for free (in PDF format, at that site). You should read it as well as listen to the links I gave you.

        You just don’t want to wake up, do you? Denial is comfy.

        • Tim H on December 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm

          Don’t forget “State of Siege”, another Costa-Gavras masterpiece. Isn’t that about Dan Mitrione, Jim Jones’ buddy? Not quite topical.

        • Yaj on December 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm


          Chertof no longer runs DHS.

          Also DHS still remains a collection of already existing agencies.

          The point about the WTC steel was that it mostly wasn’t there, clearly you actually haven’t been paying much attention to actual research in the field. Claims that some WTC steel got shipped to Asia are mostly a distraction from the point of it’s missingness.

          So in short, you haven’t read real far into the problems of the WTC collapse.

          • incognito on December 23, 2012 at 7:27 pm

            This is the last time i respond to you. You obviously aré not interested in truth but in defending the indefensible. You have not read Solving 9-11 or listens to the interviews I linked to.

            Exiled American journalist Christopher Bollyn says there was thousands of tons of steel and I believe him. I’m not interested in figuring out exactly how they did it. Gordon Duff says there was a molten river of granite underneath the WTC and no kerosene (jet fuel) is able to do that. Enough proof for me that they’re lying. Period.

            As to Chertoff not running DHS anymore, yes, there appears to be a break against the zionist scum by another faction behind Obama. This is the result:

            The White House
            Office of the Press Secretary
            For Immediate Release
            November 21, 2012

            Presidential Memorandum — National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs

            Memorandum for the heads of executive departments and agencies

            Subject: National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs

            This Presidential Memorandum transmits the National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs (Minimum Standards) to provide direction and guidance to promote the development of effective insider threat programs within departments and agencies to deter, detect, and mitigate actions by employees who may represent a threat to national security. These threats encompass potential espionage, violent acts against the Government or the Nation, and unauthorized disclosure of classified information, including the vast amounts of classified data available on interconnected United States Government computer networks and systems.

            The Minimum Standards provide departments and agencies with the minimum elements necessary to establish effective insider threat programs. These elements include the capability to gather, integrate, and centrally analyze and respond to key threat-related information; monitor employee use of classified networks; provide the workforce with insider threat awareness training; and protect the civil liberties and privacy of all personnel.

            The resulting insider threat capabilities will strengthen the protection of classified information across the executive branch and reinforce our defenses against both adversaries and insiders who misuse their access and endanger our national security.

            Barack Obama

            Don’t bother responding to me anymore. You’re not interested in learning; you’ve got your agenda.

          • Robert Barricklow on December 23, 2012 at 9:05 pm

            The Department of Homeland Security
            should be renamed:
            The Department of Drug Running Security.

          • Yaj on December 24, 2012 at 10:48 am


            You really need to read more about things like cold “melting” titanium, that fits with the “molten rivers” of x y or z at the WTC and is relevant to where a lot the steel went.

            So you still haven’t really dealt with the attacks on the WTC.

            As for one part of the government not trusting another that’s not news.

          • incognito on December 24, 2012 at 12:29 pm

            Yayayayayaya balblablablabal

            Chapter XV – The Destruction of the Evidence
            bollyn .com/the-cover-up

            Chapter XVI – Making Sense of the 9/11 Cover Up
            bollyn .com/making-sense-of-the-911-cover-up 

            balblablablabal yayayayayaya blahlablanla


          • Yaj on December 24, 2012 at 1:11 pm


            I don’t take any part of the PDF linked too seriously, simply because it makes the stupid and misleading assertion that the WTC was destroyed by explosives. An assertion for which there is next to no evidence.

            You really need to stop trying to distract from finding an actual cause for the WTC’s collapse.

            And clearly you haven’t been reading too far into the subject. You’re just making the same claims people were posting online in Oct 2001.

          • incognito on December 24, 2012 at 1:38 pm

            How flippantly you handle the mass murder of your compatriots.

            The red herring is what you keep trying to direct this conersation to. Who cares how they did it?? What’s more important to thinking people is the fact that IT WAS an inside job and who did it. On Sept 12, 2001 Chief of Operations for the Mossad, Michael Harari, confessed to plotting 911 to Russian nuclear weapons expert Dimitry Khazelov. Harari founded the Medellin Cartel along with George HW Bush. In Dr Kevin Barrett’s 2011 archives for his Truth Jihad Radio shows on American Freedom Radio you can find the inerview with this evidence. He was interviewed along with Gordon Duff. You do not fool me, troll. Every time you open your mouth everybody here gets an earful of reality. If you were better t your job you would just STFU.

            You ar a troll, aren’t you? How much are you paid? Who employs you? How do you know what scumbaggery you have to defend? You must be taught what the dirty secrets are and how to deflect people from them. You’re the worstkind of scumbag traitor. God willing, justice shall be ours and people like YOU will get their comeuppance. Please God, grant us this justice against the evildoers like this one!!!!

            We shall see what we shall see.

          • Yaj on December 24, 2012 at 1:58 pm


            How “they” did it is a really big deal and has far reaching and earthshaking implications for what humanity can do with its future and the problems than could be solved.

            In fact, it is your rants that are distraction from all of these potentials, both good and bad. I don’t think you’re paid to post these distractions, but I do think you just can’t see anything that doesn’t add up in the received wisdom you keep quoting. And that’s worse than being a paid agent, because they can at least change their minds. (Queue: George Romney on the Vietnam War.)

          • Yaj on December 24, 2012 at 2:00 pm


            No one who plotted that attack would confess to that plotting the next day. I think one has to treat such claims as a planned distraction, similar to “dancing students”.

        • Elm on December 27, 2012 at 9:45 pm

          Whereas there are diametrically opposing views among Israelis & the Jewish world, today’s Israel from top down is caught up in the undertow of the Globalists & Central Banking. So the modern state of Israel is being used as a platform or beachhead for the establishment of a Global Collective. Modern Israel, a creation of the League of Nations the forerunner to the UN, is in fact an oligrachic security state, that has adapted & learned how to exploit terrorism as an economic primer or catalyst. Call it “Terrorist Capitalism” or “The Shock Doctrine” described by author Naomi Klein. Apparently, China has found “Abortion Capitalism,” in which reconstituted “fetuses” gleened from their very prolific abortion industry are sold as a new form of Asian viagra. Eat ground up babies for virility. Macabre. The United States is adopting much of the Israeli model. The terrorist driven Security State & economy is the so-called “New World Order.”

          • Robert Barricklow on December 30, 2012 at 4:00 pm

            Jonathan Swift’s satire: “A Modest Proposal”
            Written in 1729 as a humorous satire.
            Which today, is a reality –
            distributed in cyberspace.
            Progress in one direction/technlogy –
            Regression in morality/spirituality
            Each distancing from another, at warp speed.

      • Elm on December 26, 2012 at 7:11 pm

        All vaccinations are currently, a war against the human soul, & a reduction & confinement of the body onto an entirely material, rather than being elevated to a spiritual plain. Vaccinations are reductionist. That they contain mercury should be a large red flag as to their intended effect. Think “Mad Hatter,” & felt hat preparations.

        For a deeper analysis & insight into the occultic & ominous purpose of vaccinations, see, “phy-si-cian: Medicine and the Unsuspected Battle for Human Freedom” by Richard Leviton. This is crucial for knowledge.

        • Yaj on December 27, 2012 at 5:25 am


          Sure mercury seems suspect, but some vaccines appear to work.

          As for vaccines being a materials plot. Then so is the claim that we’re simply the sum of our functioning genes, which follow the laws of chemistry.

          The worship of money for it’s own ends is also very materialist. As is the idea that energy can only be generated by burning things–increasing destruction.

          • terminally skeptical on December 27, 2012 at 8:04 am

            Jon Rappaport believes that NONE of the vaccines work. If you’re serious about exploring both sides his investigative research is a great resource. Adding a toxic adjuvant like mercury to a “vaccine” is patently absurd as are the dozens of serial injections to which the typical modern newborn is subjected by the time they reach adulthood. A healthy immune system not only does not require vaccines, there’s plenty of evidence it becomes compromised by the toxins they harbour.

          • Yaj on December 27, 2012 at 8:32 am

            Given how confused and incorrect Rappaport often is, I wouldn’t take seriously the assertion that no vaccine works, not an original claim either, and it’s been made by smarter people.

            However yes, vaccines have dangerous and probably unnecessary secondary ingredients–this is a separate problem.

          • terminally skeptical on December 27, 2012 at 11:50 am

            Could I have a few examples of Rappaport’s confusion? Like all of us here he’s not infallible but overall I can’t find fault with his big picture take on both vaccines and GMOs so I don’t buy into your casual dismissal.

            “Probably unnecessary secondary ingredients”, you say. Better to exercise the precautionary principle than wait to find out who is allergic to formaldehyde, phenol, MSG, mercury etc., don you think? But if you truly believe that vaccines are useful in some cases when would you submit to receiving one?

          • Yaj on December 27, 2012 at 2:29 pm


            What on earth makes you think I’ve never had a vaccine injected into my system?

            You can figure out the Rappaport problems by simple fact checking. Try it.

          • terminally skeptical on December 27, 2012 at 5:49 pm

            Yaj your knee is jerking again.

            I never took a position on whether you had ever been vaccinated. Reread what I wrote. I simply asked when would you allow yourself to be vaccinated?

            Your guerrilla style commentary leaves a lot to be desired. If you default on my Rappaport request I’ll conclude that you were just blowing smoke.

          • Elm on December 27, 2012 at 10:13 pm

            For deeper insights into vaccinations & their occultic purposes, obtain a copy of – “phy-si-cian: Medicine and the Unsuspected Battle for Human Freedom” by Richard Leviton.

            For instance, Leviton writes, “Infant vaccinations commandeer the immune system so that the human “I” can never find a home in the body and so that biologically based consciousness will always be attenuated and unfree.” In effect, the occulted purpose of vaccinations is to sever soul consciousness from the body.

            Further, Leviton reports, “The medical murder of the soul was predicated in 1917 when Rudolf Steiner made an unsettling forecast about the future of Western medicine. He offered this six years after the development of the typhoid vaccine. “The soul will be abolished by means of a medicament in the form of a vaccine which will be injected into the human organism in earliest infancy, if possible, immediately after birth, to ensure that this human body never has the idea that a soul and a spirit exist. Materialistic doctors will be entrusted with the task of driving souls out of human beings — In the future (Steiner’s future, but our present), doctors will vaccinate bodies “so that these bodies will not allow the inclination toward spiritual ideas to develop” and so that the humans inhabiting these soulless bodies will only perceive the physical surfaces of the world.”

            Simply stated, this is not a conspiracy against any one people, but a conspiracy against life itself.

          • Yaj on December 28, 2012 at 5:34 am


            Um, yes I have allowed myself to be vaccinated, but I don’t run out for a flu shot if that’s what you mean.

          • Yaj on December 28, 2012 at 5:39 am


            Some how belief in the soul survived Steiner’s 1917 prognostications. And as back then people still have all sorts of messed ideas about soul and spirit, so nothing new since then.

            Today, plenty of people see more than the material world, in fact the worship of monies, just as in the past, is a stab an the immaterial, but with obvious material results.

          • Elm on December 31, 2012 at 3:28 pm

            Vaccinations assume an unwarranted amount of credit for a reduction in transmissible disease, when in fact it is improved methods of hygiene & sanitation that deserve most credit.

            As Richard Leviton illustrates in “phy-si-cian: Medicine and the Unsuspected Battle for Human Freedom,” there are other more ominous, undisclosed reasons for an imposition of vaccinations.

            Doesn’t anyone notice, the more people are vaccinated the sicker they become? Millions of people have been disconnected in their perception to identify proper cause/effect relationships. One of the best examples is pasteurized & homogenized milk.

            Modern processed milk is officially included in most so-called “healthy food baskets,” but as Ron Schmid illustrates in The Untold Story of Milk, this denatured physicochemical fluid actually contributes to a host of illnesses. In an act of blind faith which amounts to little more than cognative dissonance, conventional milk consumers dutifully press on in their consumption of processed milk because they have been trained to believe it is good for their health — for strong bones etc. “Drink Milk For Health” as the white moustached starlet beckons. Likewise, get your vaccinations to to avoid sickness or contracting a serious transmissible disease.

            If you’ve lived on a farm, it’s like a dog biting a porcupine. The more the dog bites the more quills embed themselves in his mouth & pallet, the madder the dog becomes & the more he bites. Smarter dogs get the message & back off. Same effect with processed milk & vaccinations.

            Due to allopathic propaganda tens of millions of Americans have lost faith in the perfection of their own bodies, & their ability to take responsibility for their own health. Among millions, there is almost a complete disconnect. The “experts” will tell them what’s wrong, even if it’s only a flu or a cold. Further, they “feed” their bodies with “food” that should be taken to the garbage dump, or to a land fill for recycling, including pasteurized milk. Millions of unsuspecting trained Pavlovian sheep actually line up and pay to increase their vulerability to illness. And this doesn’t even begin to address environmental toxins like EMF’s etc.

            The corellation is this. In an acceptance of responsibility for our own health, we have taken the first step to understanding. Just as milk today is misrepresented & distorted as to its health benefits, so too are vaccinations. In fact, just like processed milk, if anything, vaccinations do the opposite of what is widely (mis)represented. On the psyop side, fear & insecurity are engines of consent. Rappaport has done his research and so should we.

        • amunaor on December 28, 2012 at 12:29 pm

          Adam Lanza’s doctor speaks about State sponsored Drug Pushers:


          • Elm on December 28, 2012 at 3:16 pm

            Dr. Leibow makes a crucial statement that exposes the grand perfidy of Allopathic medicine — that “the gene is disrupted.” In other words, it is not a defective gene that expresses pathology, but rather, as Dr. Leibow states, “THE GENES ARE DISRUPTED” by external factors like EMF’s & environmental toxins & poisons. Indeed, like magicians, rather than identify the true sources & causes of pathology, they frame & assign alleged defects within the victim, just as they do with the bogus “lactose intolerence” diagnosis with defective lactase enzyme deficient “milk.” Best to stay completely away from pasteurized & homogenized “milk,” and because the fundamental defect in processing remains unremedied, this unfortunately includes organic milk as well.

            Both the gene AND germ theories of disease are false, & serve the predatory & self-serving nomenclature of allopathy. Insofar as healing goes, allopathy is an up-side-down & counter-intuitive world, in which its initiates are fundamentally miseducated & trained to abuse human beings – CAPITALIZING upon their suffering. Many permit themselves to become unwilling accomplices, leading compartmentalized lives due largely to a conflict of conscience. “Do no harm” says the soul. However, today’s allopathic practitioners are trained to do harm, & ignore the conscience if they can — to purge the soul from their “patients” and deliberations. But the Witness never rests — It always knows. To drive the soul & higher meaning out of human existence is to extinguish & sever mankind from the Fountain of life and human existence itself. These people are merchants of death — a medical mafia.

            Further, in all cancer, the cell does not of its own accord become cancerous, but is damaged and becomes cancerous. Cancer functions like any mold or fungus, so if one wishes to know and understand cancer, study mycology. Once again, allopathic medicine obfuscate the cause(s), and blames the victim for environmental factors & poisonous substances & what are sold as foods — primarily “convenience” foods. To be sure, the people are drowing in a tyranny of convenience and consumption. Never in human history has either freedom or health been “convenient.” These take eternal vigilence and each generation must relearn the lessons of past generations. To all our demise, the current generation is the first “adult” generation in human history to be so totally subjected to & immersed in adolescent culture & vain obsessions. There are million of emotional children posturing in adult bodies. Millions purchase black leotards & spend their wealth to join health clubs for exercise & improve their appearance, whereas past generations used their physical energy to independently produce and create wealth. The Corporate System destroys human economy, health, freedom, knowledge, AND yes, also capitalism.

            Dr. Leibow is 100% correct. The gene itself does not express pathology. Pathology is introduced. Big Pharma is a vast criminal cartel supassing today by far those who sat in the dockets at Nuremberg for crimes against humanity. It’s time for the sleepers to awaken & to think big once again. Neither your genes nor your cells are defective. You are not the problem.

    • eddysachs on December 23, 2012 at 7:30 am

      * ‘Gottaluvit’-zioconned!?….

      • incognito on December 24, 2012 at 8:08 am

        Yeah, zoconned as in the Bolshevik revolution was zioconned, where you people murdered tens of millions of Russians and Ukranians and raped their country’s wealth. Kind of what Goldman Sucks has done here and what you people want to do here by ordering DHS to buy 1.5 billion hollow point bullets whose only target can be the American people. Yes, that kind of zioconned, scumbag. Don’t get cute with me or try to patronize me with your idiocy.

        There are millions of people who are aware of you people’s evil ways. Yes, most don’t take up arms against you because of funny-money gov subsidies (over 50% of American households receive a “subsidy”). But we know who you people are and what you’ve been up to thanks to the Internet. Once this situation changes …watch out, b*tch.

        • Tim H on December 27, 2012 at 4:05 pm

          Whoa there cowboy, tone down the abuse, surely you can make a point without insulting people. And that goes for everyone here. Please! you can disagree without being discourteous.

  12. Robert Barricklow on December 22, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Drugs are instruments of death in many ways. The Cancer drugs & therapies are killers, as are the drugs for AIDs. Neither Cancer nor AIDs are caused by virus(es). Both are known quite well, but the cures just aren’t as profitable as the killing.
    This “trumped-up” shooting is just another 9/11 foot in the door/to blow the house down on the 2nd amendment/By Design.

    • Nidster - on December 24, 2012 at 6:08 pm

      Agree on your summation, and let’s also include big agribusiness in the top list of the real culprits the government should go after, errrr wait a minute, I suppose one needs to add big government to the list of the ‘real culprits’.

      • Robert Barricklow on December 24, 2012 at 7:27 pm

        Actually, the government was compromised intially by the international banking cartel, way back; but it was officially codified as the FED in 1913, and then, if the country wasn’t already mortally wounded; the forming, in 1944 of Bretton Woods Agreement, and the 1947’s forming of the CIA, NSA, and other alphabet soups of destrution, drew the final curtains down. Drugs were the final nail in many coffins. Opium got China(British East India Company), and the same modus operandi is doung in,
        …as the song goes,

        They Got The Whole Wide World
        In Their Drug Infested Hands.

        • Yaj on December 25, 2012 at 5:48 pm

          What is this preposterous obsession with 1913, the US government was massively compromised before that.

          That’s owned by JP Morgan, and before him others.

          Drugs don’t add up to the sum monies involved and would only fund a few minor wars.

          Something else happened in the late 1800s.

          • Robert Barricklow on December 25, 2012 at 7:28 pm

            i’am suprised at u, as your normally a stickler for details. When I said, initially compropromised way back; I meant that Mr. Peaboby & Sherman were there when Benjamin Franklin was stating the PRIMARY reason for the American Revolution was getting our currency back from the international banking cartel. Sherman & Mr. Peabody then went to 1913, when it actually became officialized. They were also there when Lincoln issued the greenbacks, & Kennedy issued the silver certificates. They were also there when the only thing keeping the international banking cartel liquid/afloat during the 2008 banking crisis, was the drug cartel’s cash.
            You need to speak to Sherman about a trip on Peabody’s wayback machine.

          • Yaj on December 26, 2012 at 5:56 am


            Reread: “Drugs don’t add up to the sum monies involved and would only fund a few minor wars.”

            “Something else happened in the late 1800s.”

            And perhaps timetravel is involved.

          • Robert Barricklow on December 26, 2012 at 11:35 am

            Something else is happening Yaj, and it’s dark, dimensional; and extremely sinister.

          • Yaj on December 26, 2012 at 1:09 pm


            No, not necessarily. Though any tool or power can be used for constructive or negative ends.

          • Robert Barricklow on December 26, 2012 at 2:59 pm

            The “tool” once fought back;
            but then took a


          • Elm on December 26, 2012 at 8:14 pm

            Whereas Lincoln may have defeated the South militarily, Lincoln lost his war against the Banksters, who, as Joseph points out in Babylon’s Banksters, did everything they could to provoke the Civil War & divide the republic in the first place. Lincoln was against slavery, however, he was willing to accomodate slavery in states where it already existed to preserve the union. Slavery was indeed, THE issue of the Civil War, just as slavery is once again THE issue of today, albeit a slavery of a more refined, technocratic & administrative form. Chains need not be visible.

            The goals of Lincoln’s administration were twofold – a containment of slavery to slave states, & a preservation of the union & the constitutional republic in the face of a British/Jesuit conspiracy to undermine & destroy it. In effect, both Davis & Lincoln were constitutionalists – however, there were flies in the buttermilk. The voices of accomodation & reason were not to be heard.

            The Knights of The Golden Circle figure prominently in American slavery AND the Civil War, in that their intention was to found a slave empire within a 2,500 mile “circle,” encompassing Mexico, Central America and the West Indies, as well as slave & new states that would enter the union like Kansas & Texas. Sam Huston as well as Albert Pike are both identified as Knights of The Golden Circle. The idea was to gain a monopoly on the labor intensive commodities of cotton, tobacco & sugar cane, that would be tended in a feudalist fashion by black & other low or unpaid indigenous slave or endentured labor.

            There was an assassination attempt made on Lincoln’s life even prior to his election, due to his known opposition to slavery. Lincoln was of course, also being pressured by anti-slavery factions in the North, & this put Lincoln in a precarious balancing act between two radical & demanding factions, pro & anti-slavery.
            Both the North & South suspended Habeas Corpus so secure their respective security & to preserve wartime order. But the larger enemy of both the North & the South were the European Banksters, who would benefit financially from an enslavement of the peoples within the “Golden Circle.”

            Lincoln’s military defeat of of the South, which also thwarted the Banksters – causing them to lose tribute & control of both the North & the South, had to be “rectified.” Lincoln had to go, & the Bankster plan for a control of North America reinstated. This was to be achieved in the treasonous “Act of 1871,” that set the Legal Framework for the non-constitutional District of Columbia. In so doing, both the North & South were subjugated to alien powers – a little at first & today more fully. Neither the North nor the South won the Civil War. Sadly, hundreds of thousands of Americans will have died in vain if today the necessary lessons are ignored.

            Likely, the Banksters blackmailed the American Congress, and knowing America was ill-prepared to fight another war so soon following on the heels of a destruction & consumption of American human & material resources, they aceeded to Bankster demands. If Lincoln had lived, it is doubtful the Act of 1871 would have passed & probable Lincoln would have pursued his plans for reconciliation & national reconstruction along constitutional lines & the Declaration of Independence. The revolution of 1776 & a “New World” has been on hold ever since. Today, the British & NWO boys are not ‘coming,” they’re back – back with a vengence.

          • terminally skeptical on December 26, 2012 at 8:36 pm

            Elm or R.B or anyone else who has researched this, who are these British banksters? Has not the House of Rothschild held the dominant position in the British banking system since around or even prior to the Battle Of Waterloo?

          • Elm on December 26, 2012 at 8:49 pm

            Many answers can be found in “The Coming Battle” – The Complete Banking Money Power History Of The United States From 1776 to 1899, by M.W. Walbert.

            First published in 1899, Walbert’s book has been republished by Paul & Lorraine Walter in 1997, last printing 2000. I believe the book can also be found online. A very important resource.

          • Yaj on December 27, 2012 at 2:33 pm

            The “Coming Battle” seems interesting enough and doesn’t obviously descend into “the jews are out to control the world” rants.
            But I only skimmed a PDF online.

            However why would gold be valuable, and even in 1900 it’s likely people knew how to make it in quantity.

          • terminally skeptical on December 27, 2012 at 5:46 pm

            ELM thanks, I’ll get a copy.

    • Elm on December 28, 2012 at 8:17 pm

      There is no doubt 9/11 was a “Reichstag Mechanism” — an engineering of pretext for social, political & military action. Remember… These people are engaged in sorcery, which includes an engineering of perception.

    • paul de gagne on January 2, 2013 at 9:23 am

      I am thinking of the paranoid patient who wont take their olanzapine because it is poison and robs them of their soul only to find out years later that taking olanzapine for years just might give you the priviledge of becoming a Type 2 Diabetic!

      It would have certainly robbed him/her of their health.

      Now the Soul is another matter. I believe one’s Unconscious is like a soul so in this particular instance his/her soul might have been saved. Nah, those are too strong words? Perhaps I should get technical and say, “he had a functioning Soul that prevented him from taking that particular form of medicine for afterwards if he did take it, he might say, “I had Soul or Where the hell did my soul go to or better yet — NOT REMEMBER SHE/HE EVEN HAD A SOUL!

      Questions such as these — I am counting on Farrell’s Transhumanism Book to come in soon so I can begin to see if Farrell’s questioning or answers leads me to where I want to go or will it beat around the bush and save it for a much later time? (makes me think of that old TV show called “What’s My Line?”)

      I guess it depends on what you call a Soul?

      I think Farrell may secretly be waiting or wishing for some technological means to bring him the Philosopher’s Stone. Or, find some other means to transform his ordinary self to a level of Awareness that deals strickly with Spiritual Transformation. ( I can say or bet money that he probably would leave the physical ‘gold’ behind and go after the real mccoy!)

      I know one of the stages in the Alchemical Process is the refinement of the Water or Purify or Distill this water.

      Hey Joe — do you know how many times one has to this repeat the process? I think if you knew you would never have started your journey?

      I am getting too psychological for my own good so I will shut up!

      No, one more thing. What happens to blabermouths? They get to show videos of their kitchen instead of tinkering with billion dollar instruments!

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