TRANSHUMANIZING SANDY HOOK
I've been deliberately avoiding for the past weeks talking about the Sandy Hook shootings. Suffice it to say, we all know it was a tragedy, and I suspect that many of you, like me, have been quietly investigating the incident and are coming to the same conclusion I am: there is much about it that reeks of pre-planning, much about it that reeks of yet another orchestrated bit of ritual and social engineering. By now, it has become a familiar pattern: "disturbed" teens (usually boys), go on a rampage, shooting up schools, classmates, teachers. We then get the usual "counselors" for the grief, and the requisite period of a few hours or days goes by, and finally someone in Dummycrookery calls for more stringent gun laws.Sandy Hook in this respect proves to be no different. The usual gun grabbers are out in force and of course once again it is the Dummycrooks leading the charge (with a few helpful chimings-in from Republithug "leaders").
This much, at least, has been perfectly predictable, and I can predict that the evil people orchestrating and preparing such events (firstly, by prescribing the hideous drugs to teenagers that turn them into sociopathic killers) will continue to perpetrate them until they have grabbed every last gun in America, and they won't stop with guns...then it will be on to any other potential weapon. In short, expect them to keep milking such events for all they are worth to support their agenda of a disarmed population.
But that's not what concerns me.
Now, don't get me wrong. I am as concerned about the gun grab as many of you are, even though I don't own one. In fact, I don't even like being around them. But I am also quite certain that an armed population is the last check against tyrants and sociopaths in the political and oligarchical class.
But again, it's not the predictable gun grabbery of Dummycrookery that bothers me this time.
What bothers me this time is that Sandy Hook is being milked and exploited for a whole new meme, one that we might call "transhumanist." Consider this:
That's right... notice that what is being injected into the mix here is the precedent (1) to genetically map a slain (and alleged) killer's body in order to (2) form a database by which to predict potential killers and eventually (3) create a possible means for prevention.
Now, granted, the article doesn't say all that, but rest assured, that's what it's about. So how is this "transhumanist"? In one very important respect: the transformation of human consciousness. We can fully expect that, gradually, as incidents of this sort are repeated (and they will be), that will will be increasingly treated to stories of how "scientists" are "closing in" on "the evil gene." All this, as Dr. de Hart and I pointed out in Transhumanism: A Grimoire of Alchemical Agendas, is part of that "behavioral genetics" and "molecular biology" craze popularized and funded by certain well known "foundations" beginning back in the 1950s. Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that there may not be a genetic basic for patterns of human behavior. But that's just the point: Patterns. Genetics is not some sort of ineluctable predestination in the Spinozist or Calvinist sense.
But we are going to be told it is: He/she/you can't help it; you carry "defective genes." (Ahh.... the whiff of eugenics once again wafts over the landscape like a sulfurous Rockefellerian body odor). The data, as the above article avers, is already - like that for global warming - is already being bought and paid for. The department of Pre-Crime is already being mapped out. The "counseling" bureaucracies are already being planned.
The fact that "they" are doing this in Lanza's case is to my mind the strongest indicator that the whole thing was planned - and this was one of the bits of the planning - in the first case, for it's not even clear that we're dealing with a lone killer in this instance. But nevermind all that: what matters is the story and the utility of the story to push yet another agenda (finding the "evil" gene). Had James Holmes not ruined everything by surviving, we would have heard calls for genetic mapping in his instance as well. No matter; they can collect more samples from the next school shooting, which means of course, that the alleged killers in such instances are either going to have to die on the scene, which will complicate planning a bit, but nonetheless, it is the implication of the new meme. Failing a killer's death at the scene, "they" will simply collect DNA samples from alleged killers, and convicted killers, and this will in turn become a new class of evidence in trials: a "predisposition" to evil... what a field day for prosecutors and defense attorneys, and we can imagine the glee of the Supremes as they consider the first case before the high court trying to establish all this as precedent.
As for Sandy Hook... given not only its political exploitation, but now, its utilization to effect yet another transformation and to plant yet another "meme" for social engineering purposes, and given all the manifest problems in the "story" itself, there's no doubt in my mind that it was a planned event. The real culprits - big pharma and their drugs, intelligence with their mind control techniques and technologies - those are the ones who, once again, escape scrutiny. It isn't about genes, or guns, folks.
See you on the flip side.
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In times past, certain people of the Asian persuasion had their weapons taken from them too. So they learned martial arts and still kicked ass.
… can’t let a tragedy go to waste: multiplying the fear by capitalizing on paranoia
Bulletproof Jackets, Backpacks a Disturbing New Trend in Children’s Fashion
http://inhabitat.com/bulletproof-jackets-and-backpacks-a-disturbing-new-trend-in-childrens-fashion/
Hahaha Margaret, good one. Yes, when life gives us lemons just keep things in the positive by converting our kevlar into lemonade colored bulletproof jackets, backpacks, etc.
Who says that a private international banking system(based on debt) doesn’t work? These children jackets reflect how stylishly the system works. Epecially symbolic, in that Columbian Drug money, was absolutely vital in keeping the private banking cartel afloat, when the system was crashing in 2008. Since none of the perpetra(i)tors, have gone to jail; it must be perfectly copasetic. Afterall, the pillars of society dressed in orange jumpsuits with matching handcuff jewelry? Come on, thats not the fashion statementof a “just” society,
….or is it?
Just listened to Red Ice’s interview with Ole Dammegard regarding the assassination of Olof Palme some years back. The same crazy stories, unanswered questions and disinformation as we’re getting today. He’s written a book on this but found it difficult to publish so it’s now on the net for free.
The book’s called “Coup d’etat in Slow Motion”.
http://www.redicemembers.com/secure/radio/program.php?id=669
Above link requires redice membership.
“Usually” first hour is open to all.
Second hour for membership only.
Robert, I’m sorry about that. Thanks for pointing it out.
And just found this very interesting you tube regarding Transhumanism:
GGN: Hawking More Machine Than Man, Real Android to Be Born Soon, Future Soldiers to Be Mutants
http:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ4-INXhXgE
slight typo correction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ4-INXhXgE
Spooky prospects. Lots to look at there, thanks!
DaphneO
Great Video!
Thanks Margaret for correcting slight typo.
I found the most interesting part of the interview was when Dammegard stated that at the time of the ‘deed’ (following is paraphrase) that those on walkie-talkies were speaking an almost unintelligible language; “sounded like English but with a German accent”-
maybe the language Afrikanns?- if my read sources are correct it was the South African secret service who iced Palme due to his knowledge of secret nuke transfers to ZA (or whatever)-
don’t know if most are aware of the following: actress Shirley MacClaine (sp.?) finally spilled the beans (if this woman’s testimony is to be taken seriously) when she finally admitted she wasn’t having an affair with a British MP but with… Olof Palme
more airframe shock testing to identify weakness in the system.
secret weapons for silent wars.
The parasite aka the devil roams this world.
the farmers are targeted before the take down.
lets connect the dots.
American civil war…plantation owners
The Russian genocide…The Ukraine famine
Rhodesia….farms siezed
South Africa…in process of Boer (farmer) genocide
America….only 30 percent of farms are privately owned…from 90 percent 40 years ago.
The tactics are in the bible, which was never meant to have been in the peasants hands, it was only for the priest class.
Elm hit it with feminism, attack on masculinity post, it is a psychological weapon of putting enmity (mistrust)_ between a man and a women.
Yes, it appears that it’s America’s turn to be brought to its knees. I only hope they are saved the mass murders that were carried out in the countries you mentioned.
Intelligent beings will always throw the beasts under the bus….
Really where was Americans head when JFK incident happened….not one stood upto the assholes, and they sent those Irish kids to there death in Vnam.
Its no ones turn…get off the ride, and take responsibility.
Jedi, the “ride” is ongoing and I cannot do much for America except pray. I don’t live there.
What other action were you considering?
Jedi
Wow. that’s a keen observation those farm genocides you noted. Tnanks!
Every now and then here at GDS someone makes an observation whereby they take a familiar body of information and give it fresh (to me) context. I had that with ELM recently and his poignant Malthusian template. And now again with your insight.
no p buddy….truth sets you free.
one other thing….they rape the shit out of the women on the farms and induce them into slavery.
There are several old, no longer in print books which give the “gory” details of what happened to the Kulaks etc as the “revolution” began. I searched them out.
One book I read, “Under the Sign of the Scorpion…” by Juri Lina has now been made into a video and it’s excellent. You do have to read the English version, but well worth it.
(Full) In the Shadow of Hermes by Jüri Lina (2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI
dapne o…..my comments are not at you or any person, they are at the consciousness or lack of it of ….our world.
I offered that info in case anyone did not know and wanted to check this out for themselves. I didn’t think you meant me.
But yet, I’d love for the world to be more aware of the evil in our midst.
The war is this…
Whether humanity will be empowered with the means to do what it needs to do for itself, their families & communities, or whether they will be impoverished by design & disempowered.
The poles in this global struggle are embodied in British born economic theorist Thomas Malthus wearing the black trunks, representing the side of limitation, scarcity & poverty, butressed by a closed system of economic piracy, predation & servitude, & wearing the white trunks, stands American born economic philosopher Henry George, representing the side of unlimited possibility, abundence & a dignified prosperity for all.
As is currently evidenced, in every area of human endeavor – financial, economic, agricultural, medicine, energy & even religion, the pathocratic self-appointed & privileged ruling clique of non-competing like interests, have deliberately chosen disempowerment of the people over their empowerment which leads to genocide.
What we are observing, is a march of the Oligarchic Malthusian Technocrats, & an emergent Old World Odor of Feudalism & Corporate Collectivist Monopoly over access to the means of producing basic wealth – an up-side-down economic terrain, which even denies a man’s prior & superior claim & ownership of his own labor – labor being framed a “cost” or liability to the capital or wealth of the Land”Lords.” To be sure, all labor is an asset of a creation & production of wealth – its fruits, the most private property of man.
At stake is, the unearned privilege, power & usurped wealth of the few, to the disempowerment, demise & servitude of all mankind.
Everybody knows the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That’s how it goes
everybody knows.
http://poemhunter.com/poem/carry-on/
the dice game where the 5 gods of egypt were birthed….
Great poem Robert.
Here’s one back at you, author unknown.
The Ragged Jacket
Although I’m but a working man,
I live by honest labor.
I always do the best I can
To assist a needy neighbor.
Content and health are all my wealth,
With honesty to back it,
My motive pure, although I’m poor,
I respect the ragged jacket.
Let people say what ever they may
Of broadcloth and who wore it,
It’s not the coat that makes the man,
But the deeds through life that bear it!
So always help a fellowman
If assistance, he should lack it,
Do him all the good you can
Though he wears a ragged jacket!
All men were equally born at first
Of this, and every nation,
The rich among the poor would be
But for health and education,
And when we’re laid beneath the sod,
With a hundred years to back it,
Who can tell which were the bones
That wore the Ragged Jacket!
What’s special to me about this poem is, my great-grandfather who was a moonshiner during prohibition used to recite it to me verbatum when he & I met, & (only) he had been drinking corn liquor. He was a salty old guy with a noble heart.
Elm,
Great poem, loved it!
Reminds of a woman who told me this one.
The Moon Shines East
The Moon Shines West
But The Man Nextdoor
Makes The moonshine Best!
I remember, in the service, an old sergeant who had some moonshine that he once shared with me. Too bad that couldn’t be sold legally. Wish I had some of that now!
I think this idea that they want to take away guns is misleading. To me, it’s quite obvious that they want violent Mexican Nationalist drug dealers to be armed to the teeth. The fear with the Militia was that they might not obey. If you demonstrate that you will obey and enforce the will of the tyrants, there is no gun control, and the world can be your shooting gallery. A badge will get you a Glock, and a nice assault rifle. There will be some rules, but it’s no big deal if you violate them. You just get some administrative leave with pay. If you want a cruise missile, you will probably have to be at least a Major to get those. Go on to be the President. Nuke two Japanese cities, and all the civilians you can drone bomb. Sandy Hook? The only thing that would have really made Obama cry is if it was murder without the proper license. The man could care less about the dead child victims of his drone bombings. Since the tears were not really there, my guess would be that it was licensed in the fast and furious style. Why would anyone fear their government? That’s just nutty! For all these people who are so eager to add their voice to the voice of our tyrannical government, you seem pretty sure of yourself. Better hope that after they finish rounding up the guns, they don’t come and round you up. But of course, that’s just crazy talk. I mean…It’s not like that has ever happened before. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, and in most cases the killer is involved in government. People who kill and do it outside the government are fools. You could get the death penalty for doing that.
Glad you raised the Batman Connection.
Just the other day I was streaming “American Psycho” with Christian Bale whose main character’s last name is BATEMAN and preppy looks tie in perfectly with Bruce Wayne’s, by Christian Bale, frivolous apperance.
BATEMAN turns out to be a schizofrenic dreaming of crimes he never commits…always trying to fit in with people who don’t even know his name…and going on rants about how Apartheid had to be abolished, Women’s rights and so forth… unabated hipocrisy while concoting massacres in his dreams.
I thought the 2001 American Psycho movie ties in really well later with the Dark Night… since Bruce Wayne’s and BATEMAN appear to be one and the same…living in a hole and trying to climb out of it.
nice connection….have you ever tried to find something in “wall” mart that was not dumped there from China?
Jay Seabring, coke dealer to the stars and victim of the Tate ritual murder also had a small part in the original series.
Some dumb jerk in the media said the Second Ammendment was about muskets. Well, the brits had muskets too. It`s about being able to shoot back at a bunch of private, corporate army thugs, and not abot quail hunting.I believe the english bought a bunch of indentured slaves called “Hessians” from Germany to die as mercinaries, who seldom got paid, to fight americans. So what did they do? They stole the colonialist`s food, ficked their women, and in the end, hated the british, and joined George Washington. In secret of course. What did the germans have in common with the brits anyway? Pork?
”I would like to purchase that Ruger rifle please” ‘Sure , ok” ‘Do you have your genetic trace ID with you?” ‘Yeah sure, here you go”.
Swipes through eftpos machine
‘Oh I am really sorry sir, it appears you have the lone nut gunman gene”
‘So?”
“Well I am sorry sir, we cannot sell this weapon to you because of your genetic predisposition to armed murder”
‘But I have several degrees, I am a Baptists,gainfully employed and I vote at every election”
‘I am sure you do sir, but the law is the law”.
Black guy enters the store
“I’d like to buy that Uzi”
‘Have you got your genetic ID card?”
‘Yeah , here it is”
Swipes card
‘Sorry sir, it appears you are predisposed genetically to armed violence, I cannot sell you this gun”
Wealthy man enters the store who has had ‘gene therapy’ inoculation injections at 6months, 1 months, 18 months, 3 years, 12 years and 18 years of age.
‘I would like to buy that assault rifle, the foreigners moving in a real problem you know-we have to support the Government and keep the U.S.S.A for the people’
‘Certainly sir. do you have your card?’
‘Why yes here it is.do you take AMEX?’
‘Yes we do, can I get anything else for you today?’
‘Actually yes, those marijuana cigarettes would be great as well”
A point I didn’t make clear in an earlier post was the feeling that I had that we are being deliberately deluded and confused.
Whatever actually happened to the children, the reports (here one minute, gone the next in some cases) make it impossible for anyone to say exactly what really happened.
This has always been the case and I agree with another post on this. But the stories are getting crazier and more confused, and it’s like they’re laughing at us and giving us “conspirators” more and more mixed versions to confuse us more than ever.
I read “Most Dangerous…” and this was what affected me most. The fact that they could mock us while they were carrying out the most dastardly deeds.
I felt that very strongly as I went through the you tubes that are now all over the web.
Has everyone scene the Alex Jones/ Pierce xchange on CNN?
Hi Reno,
I refused to watch this (read reports about the confrontation afterwards which confirmed my previous suspicions) because I assumed Alex Jones would come accross as nothing more than a cheap ranting, raving “conspiracay theorist” (can’t hear that term anymore)-
anyway, I have grave reservations about Alex Jones- his gravelish voice is highly contrived and I can’t but help sensing both Jones (alleged connections to Canadian Bronfmann family- whether true or not he obviously didn’t get his lavish studio from truth-telling) and Michael Moore (“business manager” is Ari Emmanuel, brother of Rahm- if my read sources are legit) and MM are being manipulated and yanked by whatever faction finds them most useful at the moment-
Larry
G’day Larry
I did watch it and my reservations of AJ increased as a result. He came across as a loud mouth fool, almost like he intended to. He ranted and raved and made no coherent sense. It was like watching a public suicide.
The question is why?
Hope you are well mate,
Luke.
Hi Luke!
always great to hear from you/read your postings-
” It was like watching a public suicide”- as I stated I didn’t (refused to) watch the debate- if AJ uncontrollably shot his wad I think that was intended- MSM knew Jones would explode so they let it happen just to make him look foolish- just my take on things- but I’m still perplexed about the financial backing behind AJ, MM and then throw in…. Jesse Ventura-
I truly hope you are well- many warmest regards-
Larry
I’am in the same perplexing boat wonderring what sea I’am in, especially with Jesse Ventura swimming in these same circles. Knowing there is some method to madness, I just can’t, as yet read “sense” into those swimming tea leaves. To be sure, there is a mix & match of dis/mis information among “some” truths, but is that their sine qua non? To get whatever truths are breaking, and get ahead of these “breakouts”, to redirect them?
Couldn’t help but jump in, as this has been puzzling me.
Hi Larry I plugged this Xchange becauseI thought it was great TV. I know about the AJ suspicions. However AJ made reasoned intelligent points RE the 2nd amendment & 911. Maybe some of AJ’s “controllers”( if he has them) may not want a disarmed public before the NWO. His emotional approach has a much greater impact as Jung, Hitler, etc knew when dealing with the sheeple.
Hi Reno,
your response is very appreciated- I just think this AJ thing, Aurora, Sandy Hook , etc. has proportions about which go beyond our everyday perceptions- and, yes, we’re dealing with sheeple (but not on this website)- I’m still trying to convince my family and freinds that there’s another world outside of MSM but it’s like talking to a used condom- just so very frustrating-
stay well-
Larry
I listen to AJ sometimes, with caution, and there are times he’s very good… but I did watch his Piers Morgan interview after seeing it mentioned here, and he came off sounding like an idiot and Morgan was all over him.
Morgan’s a real shill and I found the whole thing quite disturbing. AJ may be emotional but surely he knows how his performance would come over. So I agree. I don’t know how the PTB can gain, but they probably did. Most people would be turned off by his performance.
The problem is, millions of Americans today have been disabled in their capacity to hear & listen too a passionate & assertive masculine voice like that of Alex Jones’ – An American original of the intellectual truck driver. Do not mistake passion for a loose cannon, which Alex is anything but.
The male voice has been muted & feminized, meaning of course, emasculated to succor approval of the politically reactionary & empowered female voice & widely touted political weapon of victimology, now almost perfected as a new “science.” To be sure, disassembly feminism is the mortal enemy of the largely male founded Constitutional Republic & Bill of Rights, because it was founded by “fathers,” & the new world order has trained up a father mocking & father hating generation. No more “father knows best” for an Old World Odor & Big Mother.
Like Social”ism,” femin”ism” itself is a pretentious fraud – posturing as a pro-feminist social movement rather than being exposed for the political movement after power it is. Truth is, while they despise true femininity in women, they encourage it in men & actually promote pornography as an obfuscated weapon of male emasculation & political control. Radical “feminism,” as it is currently applied, leads to a destruction of the fraternal male brotherhood, bringing in its wake a destruction of a strong & benevolent fatherhood & patriarchy, thus ending in a reactionary, uninformed, misinformed & emotion laden tyranny of effeminate & sexually coddled males who prostitute themselves to powerful “females.” Call it an endemic form of Oedupis Complex, of which Obama is Oedupis Rex.
Alex Jones is his own man. He is legit and a sincere truth seeker and American patriot. How else could the ruling cabal so effectively push gold buying through his broadcast and simultaneously create another powerful “rupture in the social space?” They could care less about the truth of his message as being a potential danger to themselves because it never will be. In terms of human opposition the cabal is invincible.
“By so defining themselves in opposition to a larger space and previous cultural tradition, they are always in an interior state of cultural schizophrenia, a kind of dysfunctionality that lends itself to exploitation and manipulation.”
from “Transhumanism” p.74
I find myself skeptical of Alex and his motives, with the Tangy Tangerine, gold broker ads. But you’re right. He’s his own man. Sometimes I’m not sure what that is, but there really is no way to tell if someone is not really what he appears to be. As far as his interview, I felt nothing but admiration for Alex.
What I find provocative are the videos of parents who are suspected to be “crisis actors”. Looking carefully these can be convincing-that they are indeed actors. That there was no school shooting; no photos of shot up classes; reports that parents never saw the bodies. Also Lanza & Holmes’ fathers intending to testify in the LIBOR scandals. Someone on Jim Stone’s site theorizes kids were kidnapped then sacrificed in rituals or sold into sex slavery. Biden today said something like- people who saw the bodies (then he pauses and edits saying people who heard about the bodies). One video shows a supposedly murdered girl gave Obama a drawing of an OWL. Her name Grace is printed below the drawing and kinda looks like Grove(Bohemian?) Also a DHS scenario took place around the incident mimicking the situation. Reports of Satanic cults in the area etc. Notice how quickly Cuomo et al pop up as on cue calling for new gun restrictions
Reno here I sit several states over from the purported Sandy Hook crime scene, reading your remarks while thinking how weird can it get.
The Warren Report and lone gunman theory was, I know, a work of fiction.
Yesterday I heard an interview with a well-read and renown guy who said he had 55 pieces of evidence suggesting we never landed on the moon. He also said what I noted here at GDS not long ago that it’s rumored the late filmmaker Stanley Kubrick did a studio production of our alleged time spend on its surface.
Then there was the in broad daylight 9-11 grand illusion.
Perhaps there is no plausible way an entire school could have been enlisted, nay hijacked, to cook up something as elaborate as a crime that never was although the magicians have fooled us in the examples above and numerous other times before already. Still, I haven’t been able to imagine a ruse so complex that the whole thing was faked. Have you?
Hi TSS, The Bin Laden “kill” comes to mind. Or BiN-no- body-found. The Robbie Parker video looks so fake. If the report i read was true that the parents couldn’t see the remains. The as it happened FOX report about a 2nd gunman. Why cant the public see the surveillance video monitoring those entering. Or bullet riddled walls. Much i read on Jim Stone’s site. 24 hours earlier I saw Paul McCartney open at sandy concert with Manson anthem “Helter Skelter” and I said to my wife I hope this isn’t a trigger. The gov is great at these scenarios; every Fed officer goes through these
In the last sentence I said “a ruse” though I meant to say “this ruse” as I was referring specifically to Sandy Hook. How does one sequester an entire school in the form of a media blackout from the real events and under what terms would a parent consent to having their child buried without having identified them first?
I hadn’t seen that Robbie Parker video and I agree it don’t appear credible, In fact it looks bizarre. Not familiar with Jim Stone either. I’ll give it a look when I have time. Thanks.
Since you brought it up, I too believe that OBL died long before he was killed, (Robert B and I, it seems, agree on December 2001).
Right on! They don’t call it Central “Casting” for nothing. These people are sorcerors practiced in the craft of casting of spells.
Aren’t we ultimately talking about two opposing gene pools from who knows where in a state of perpetual war and now continuing the fight on planet Earth? When I saw this news the other day I just assumed one of the groups is scheming to round up the other one for liquidation. That’s why local law enforcement across the country are being trained to take DNA samples and also why hospitals in the US have surreptitiously been taking DNA samples from newborns for the last forty years.
Or, the current homo sapien ruling elite, who have a greater percentage of a DNA marker we all inherited from our alien creators, are seeking out an elusive genetic trait mistakenly slipped into the first batch of homo sapiens by these same creators. This rare genetic trait, the Kundalini gene, if activated, gives the bearer powers the transhumanists only dream of. It is feared by the ruling elite that this power becomes more accessible by these rare humans in this ascending Dwapara Yuga. Hence the need to find this rare genetic trait and destroy the carriers before they activate their God like powers and dislodge our oppressors. Think King Herod and Jesus.
But getting back to Earth, I see today that the state of Vermont announced a federally funded psychiatric hospital to be located in the center of the state and surrounded by a network of statewide satellite treatment facilities. It seems harmless enough but I couldn’t help thinking this was the inaugural start of the new psychiatric industrial complex. And what better place to commence this experiment than the unique state of Vermont with its proud gun culture yet left leaning pro-big government politics. The trial balloon. You don’t get your meds, welfare, food stamps, disability, etc unless you turn in your guns. The government does not plan on seizing your guns. It will take them by stealth. Beware when the government starts giving out free cable tv. This too may become a privilege which can be taken away if you don’t turn in your guns. And what gun owner in America today would be willing to give up that warm, cuddly electronic friend in his living room with all it has to offer– porn, nascar, football, reality shows, fishing shows, hollywood movies, etc. just for the right to have a gun in his house. If he wants television, he will have to keep his gun at the safe government holding facility. He can still say he has a gun. Its just not in his house currently.
If Chomsky or Bernie goes along with it so will the liberal majority there.
It’s funny a report today of police wanting to be able to draw blood samples from DUI suspects. Now they need a warrant . The Supreme court is going to decide in June I Guess whether this can be done without a warrant.
Funny in his camelot interview(the red ice one is better) Richard Allan Miller says that those who will save the planet are 5 or 6 now: the age of the Sandy Hook Victims( if we accept that the children were killed or kidnapped.) This echoes the terminator theme of the robot coming to earth to kill the boy who is destined to be the resistance leader.Maybe then they were targeted for their DNA.
the farmers Cain vs the hunter/ gather Seth.
Throw in the Bavarian Illuminati, who infiltrated and subverted the old world order pyramid group….starting with Yahweh
A Question of Authority
You say that we all know it is a tragedy, but do we? If ever there was a climate of deep-seated skepticism about the veracity of news reporting, government credibility and domestic terror incidents in particular, we are living in it.
I find it deeply troubling that anyone would roll over and accept the official narrative, but there will be no argument among the independent media regarding that claim. But whythen would so many choose to arbitrarily accept the premise behind this clearly false act, and then choose to only quibble with its nuanced import, its motive, or its essential argument?
I have not seen these bodies, a bloody crime scene, or any other first hand evidence that would persuade me, whereas I have seen what appear to be incredible gaffes, posturing phonies (perhaps even actors), and a storyline that refuses to stay still.
I do agree with you that many of us have been quietly evaluating the incident since it would be foolish to just react with knee-jerk skepticism, although we truly should at first assume implausibility if we must have any intuitive first response, whereas we have all become conditioned to accept such counterintuitive events as part of the normal American condition.
But is it? Is it really the case that people just perform such irrational acts as we have been told they do from Columbine on, despite all the intuitive evidence from our own lives that bear witness to the fact that they probably do not?
But of course in our postmodern spectacle society it is hard to tease out the real from the simulated, as we live in a world more defined by the mediated forms of television and cinema that act as intermediary. This is the only rational reason so many could accept the official story on 911, despite our own intuitive feel for physics and –later after reviewing the evidence — our knowledge of the impossibility of such a narrative.
Yet we do, all of us, to various degrees. Despite our varying degrees els of skepticism, there is always some implicit assumption we are agreeing with, some part of the grand event we are taking at face value. And more often than not we use this purloined piece of the official story to help us formulate our very claims against that story.
We are all dissidents in our mind, heroes of some specific righteous cause for which we brace ourselves against a clearly defined “other,” but whether this is objectively true who can say since the very essence of authority and authenticity is called to bear by our very claims. Perhaps one man’s dissidence is another man’s cowardice and yet another man’s limited skepticism.
After one such famous school shooting, there might be one alternative journalist who quickly takes to task the curse of prescription anti-deppressants, formulating a bogeyman in Big Pharma, who has descended on the crime scene to remove all the child’s pills.
And yet another might reason that the child is a Manchurian assassin, doped up on Scopolamine, executing marching orders from an invisible government hellbent on a strategy of tension;
And finally, there is the blogger who doubts there has even been a crime at all; it has been only a psy-op or running through gun control legislation prior to a financial collapse.
Who can we say is right, but for a greater evocation of that true Authority, at least without a first hand gnostic experiencing of the event?
Is this not where we stand with 911, and before that, JFK? We can easily assume a conspiracy — that much is certain — but beyond a certain point, we have only a workman’s good sense to guide us given great labor and study; and then it is much a matter of taste and our most nuanced reason acts cover for what our great labor has yielded to our intuition and sense of things.
One of the most anti-intuitive clams of 911, the lack of commercial airliners participating in the event, is such a classic example. While I think the evidence clearly indicates a plane as so defined did not hit the Pentagon, there are researchers who fall back to witnesses, and we are locked out of closing the story with satisfying finality (in their eyes).
How many reject the government’s story about the incoming missile by calling forth the government’s radar stats? Or who posits traces of a nuclear event by calling forth government geological survey data? If we are calling one datum invalid by appeal to another datum, then our quest for truth is really a quest for authority.
And so I wonder with this latest and most outrageous “mass murder,” why we cannot default to a more reasonable expectation of the most persuasive evidence to even grant the corrupt governing cabal our mutual agreement that their thesis is valid at all.
This might seem backward to not cede the benefit of the doubt to such august professionals, but Is it? Perhaps we need to reevaluate everything in light of the present breach in our social contract.
At the very least we should be cognizant of where we have set the line dividing what can be assumed as valid and what can be subject to doubt.
We might be disagreed on some points… but I want to thank you for a really thoughtful post! VERY well said, and thank you again.
No, thank YOU for the service you give to our culture, which is in dire need of true intellectuals.
I suppose what I meant before is not that I disagree with you per se, but that in a rhetorical way, I am addressing the general condition we have all been placed in, which is a crisis of knowledge. And all the leaders who we might hope to lead us out have to be found in a different place than we have been conditioned to look.
For example, when we think of the professional class, and academia especially, we no longer find an intellectual class that challenges paradigms, but one that reinforces the ruling order. Perhaps this is just an economics problem, in that everything in our culture has been commoditized and sold off to the highest bidder, with the outliers being coerced into silence.
This is why you have been that rare breed that puts one foot into the esoteric realm, but also leaves the other foot planted on firm rational ground. Thus you act as a bridge, demonstrating through your own voice and work that a true philosopher must always be this fluid, evolving, questioning being, always reverent before experience, and thus truly open to wisdom. And this is so inspiring when I consider the traditional modern scholar who is encouraged to focus his light too narrowly, to conform to entrenched dogma too rigidly, until before long his light is calcified and brittle, and no longer able to light the path for us.
I know that for you the great questions still make you pause in awe, and that passion is transmitted to many, and believe it or not, it helps to counter the awful cynicism that must confront everyone with eyes that cam see. When I see those that continue to serve as a positive example, such as yourself, who would rather endure the struggle that accompanies integrity and authenticity, than it makes it seem that perhaps I can find a way, and perhaps others…
And before long, there may be some saving remnant that — when the time is right — reignites this world anew…
So thank YOU!
Well said Solfeggio.
Solfeggio:
Just to be clear, you’re saying that the mass shooting at the elementary school in Newton Connecticut didn’t occur?
That Iranian president (agent provocateur) Ahmadinejad has also publicly stated that no one died in the collapse of the World Trade Towers.
Solfeggio, I just wanted to say that you expressed amazingly well what Dr Farrell is attempting to do by “discussing” topics that need that discussion, and which I have never found so powerfully adequate anywhere else.
His high intelligence and willingness to open discussion is what drew me to this site and encouraged me to read his books. He “discusses” in a way that helps those less gifted to be able to understand and therefore enables higher thinking to grow.
Agreed DaphneO! Thank you as well, Solfeggio, for your thoughtful comments and for bringing a welcome perspective to the discussion, as intended. It’s not just this issue, it’s the whole context in which it takes place and where our questioning places us in that context; it’s examining our reactions and how such can motivate and transform something inside of us … for the positive. And indeed how are we supposed to react? Like we’re told to by the ‘media’, the ‘moralizers’, the ‘experts’? How can we judge to our own satisfaction, our own peace of mind, without knowing all the facts? And from whose perspective? What outcome do we want from the [social/national] discussion: blame, condemnation, revenge, punishment? Can we imagine a different outcome which might bring healing rather than more conflict and division? A small shift inside effects changes that ripple outward. (Yes, it can be negative or positive, but I’ll always opt for positive trumping negative in the long run.)
Great perspective outlook Margaret.
“They” simply can’t be trusted.(period)
They continue to move the dividing line down the field of illusion; yes, so far removed, that even what was assumed as valid, is now in …[?]
Robert, well said. That’s about where I’m at. And why exactly are they doing this? What do they gain, especially if they’re planning to go off world. I mean, why bother?
What I fear DaphneO is that this script has been written before. Also, this may not be the first take. Like in a mathematical formula, assuming this to be true then that/means several “plausable” scenarios. One, this is not their first dance. Two, they are trying for some “synchronicity” event to achieve some “alchemical/occult” quantum process ?. Three, time’s function is continually “acting” as it it were “alive”/ an entity with presence of ‘mind’/ trying to escape its own nature. Thus “thwarting”, or perhaps “orchestrating”, said events to effect an “escape”.
Hey, is three a wild scenarios or what?
Thanks Robert. Must admit, I don’t really understand the time element, even though I’ve read a bit about this subject. Bt then you keep learning, don’t you. Again, thanks.
Thanks DaphneO, but, I also must admit, that the greatest problem with communication IS…
(drum roll….)
the illusion, that it has been accomplished.
Speaking of “Authority”
google:
Cartoon: Guess which is the greater threat to your safety
agreed: the entire Sandy Hook incident was created as a psy-ops to influence public opinion about many things and not exclusively gun control-
so many conflicting stories: lone gunman, multiple shooters, mother claiming photo of “shot” daughter still alive and well (photo ruse), you name it-
the plot thickens: “Aurora” and “Sandy Hook” were orthographically presented in Batman film “Dark Knight Rises”-
then add Mossad or CIA, etc. as perpetrators (take your pick of alphabet agencies)- and then the crowning glory of reports from both Aurora/Sandy Hook happenings:
both incidences never really happened-
and we’re not living in a world of mega deceit and deception though which most of us can’t even begin to comprehend? (last sentence was reason for this posting)-
Larry
Loved your last sentence in above post.
I haven’t heard anything about Aurora, but I did spend a bit of time watching you tubes on some of the problems with the Sandy Hook shooting. It seems Sandy Hook could be a satanist hub. And I realise it’s only videos by whoever? and not necessarily to be trusted.
It’s not that the incidents “never happened” as I see it, but that maybe no shots were heard and the parents were not allowed to see their kids before the funerals. And the parents didn’t scream out about this. It’s all very, very weird.
http://vaticproject.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/where-are-sandy-hook-bodies.html
Definitely a psy-op and definitely to take away guns. In fact the inconsistencies remind me of Australia’s Port Arthur (except there is no doubt people definitely died there) and immediately our guns were taken away. Same thing in England not that long before.
I think Americans can be thankful they have the second amendment to fight with, because the government cannot be trusted. Exactly the reasoning in the second amendment.
Hi Daphne Regarding Aurora if you haven’t watched it see the LIL WAYNE “music” video- Amazing! (takes place in a movie theater)
Wayne vid “MY Homey Still”
Just did thanks. Nearly as crazy as “real” life!
Once again, Central “Casting” & a casting of spells are synonymous.
The JFK assassination was designed with maximum trauma in mind – his gruesome & tragic public mutilation still an open & festering wound on our hearts & minds, having undermined both our hope & faith for the future.
gestalt psychology at its finest.
The second amendment is ABSOLUTELY clear:
…SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED…
What a relief. They no longer have to investigate the crime scene. Today’s crime scene is simply a matter of investigating your genes.
Of course, in no time at all; this will be BEFORE the crime even happens.
Don’t worry, in the future the “Bad Genes” will have had their germ-line-exterminated. And then, it’s only a matter of time, before “they” realize; the “weak link” is the “human link”.
Gun laws have been ruled perfectly legal by the supreme court.
Absolute bans are not legal, of course in the same ruling Justice Scalia added some wacky home defense clause to the 2nd amendment. Then there’s that whole “well regulated militia” line that’s actually in the amendment. And hey when it was written muskets were the gun, get as may muzzle loaders as you like; there are whole 2013 magazines devoted to them.
In other news, it’s still illegal to own a cruise missile and also your own working howitzer would not be legal.
When it was written, governments were, as they are today/NOT to be trusted.
So, the 2d amendment isn’t about protecting yourself from the guvmint. That’s just reichwing bs and also not part of the court ruling.
Draw your own conclusions.
Oh, okay….No doubt you will feel the same if Dr. Farrell’s Nazi International takes power and starts rounding up Jews. My response will be, “so sorry, but I can’t help you, cuz that would be bs, and not part of the court ruling”
Tor,
You’ve added more than a few steps to get to your bs conclusion.
The idea that the 2nd Amendment was written to protect citizens from the guvmint is reichwing bs, and notice the “reich” in there.
You’re in fact describing private armies like those assembled by the Nazis in the 1920s, sadly ironic how much the teatards yearn for that crap.
Somehow, in 2013 I think the guvmint has a few more powerful weapons than M16s, and no you can’t own those under the 2nd Amendment.
Stop being an apologist for those who think “militias” equal liberty.
Yaj, I’m describing Militias which were instrumental in the forming of this nation, such as the Minute Men, those in service of the Militia act of 1792, and Washington’s Virginia Militia . He showed up in his Militia uniform to offer his services, so this Country was indeed born from the people’s Militia. Of course that doesn’t make any difference to you, because your purpose is to waste my time making stupid arguments, and over using silly Jr. High terms like “teatard”. You sound like some school girl cheering for your high school team. ra ra, sis boom bama. I’m simply pointing out the obvious fact that you had better be sure that the team you are offering your cheerleader services too, doesn’t plan to round you up and gas you. But you’re right. If I had a gun I certainly wouldn’t do anything to stop them from rounding up you and your dual citizen tribesmen. After all, by your own words, if I were to attempt to stick my nose into it, and try to put a stop to it, that would make me one of those private army nazi teatards, so hated by Jewish school girl cheerleaders.
oh voy voy nazi libel……
Robert, it is not govt that shouldnt be trusted it is people that vote who have no ownership in the country and the govts they create who cannot be trusted.
Hi Yaj This is what David Icke describes as the “stepping stone” approach. Gun confiscation is the ultimate goal at the end of the slippery slope. Trained seal Cuuomo was the first to pop out of his NWO jack in the box.
Reno,
First of all Cuomo backed away from that idea, and it wouldn’t pass anyhow.
The only thing likely to pass is a limit on magazine sizes and criminal background checks. Your guns aren’t going to be taken away.
Also according to Icke Queen Elizabeth, and Bill and Hillary Clinton are shape shifting lizard beings, and I don’t believe him.
Yaj, guns WERE taken away in England after the school shooting and Australia after the event at Port Arthur. Thousands upon thousands of them. You have to register and have a license now, and there are laws about the guns you can buy.
Another interesting point. The gun/s used at Port Arthur have never been allowed – in fact , they told us they were ex-police guns. Yet they took away our rifles. And in Australia it has always been illegal to buy small guns.
I think they just have a tougher job obtaining their goal in America, due to the 2nd amendment.
D-
This country is neither Australia nor the UK, and many guns have been illegal in the UK for 100 years, the government feared armed communists.
Both the defective gene & germ theory of disease & pathology are false – a devious way of blaming the victim whilst defining symptoms as causes.
A human being crazed by psychotropic drugs is not “genetically” defective. The defect is in the poisonous & distopian terrain, not in the jeans.
“…There is no anti-depressant that will cure a depression that’s spiritually based, for the malaise doesn’t originate from brain dysfunction (or genes), but from an accurate response to the desecration (and complicit corruption & manipulation) of life.” [David R. Hawkins – Power Vs Force]
Agreed to above.
The weak link, “is of course the human link”.
The “they” who define human, are not human.
The danger in transforming into “something” that is partially human, is where that road leads. Once inertia reaches a certain point in space/time; the present becomes controlled, in the truest of the Orwellian sense of the past, in controlling the future, via the present.
Doug Kaufman defines cancer as a hybrid cell, comprised of both fungal & human DNA. Because of cancer’s cloaking abilities, the body’s immune system simply fails to recognize it as an alien cell.
Have you heard of:
http://nancybanksmd.com/
?
Looks like an excellent read. Thank you for the link. I’ll forward notice of this to my associates.
Evil can be defeated when enough good men do something, so cast your “pebbles” upon the pond of human consciousness.
As American natural son Poet Walt Whitman writes, “There is no hour nor day when evil may not enter upon the land — there is no bar against it, except for a large resolute breed of men.” For our purposes, Walt meant clear headed men, not emasculated & pandering fascimiles of men. Evil respects only two qualities – that of truth & courage.
When truth is replaced by silence,
the silence is the lie.
Robert, I so agree with that!
Eh, could somebody tell me HOW the US government is going to get the millions of guns OFF the American fellas with them.
How are you going to take all of the guns off 320 million people?
If they do outlaw the sale of ALL guns, it will only go underground. The bike’e gangs will sell you one in a heartbeat, so lets just say that guns will be around for qite a while to come.
I just finished “Transhumanism” and it’s a tough read, and you’d better pack a powerfull dictionary close at hand.
The US government plans no such thing. Once in a while some local government buys back guns.
You really need to actually examine what’s been proposed and not simply quote teatards.
To the contrary, they will go as far as resistance allows. Disarmning a “subject” population to implement waiting agendas is nothing new.
Elm,
But “they” are not taking guns.
First they manouver Legally by formulating an “enabling act,” similar to Hitler’s “Enabling Act of 1933.” Also, they require gun owners to register their guns so they know where they’re being, or must be legally kept, while not in use. This is the frog in the pot principle – to tighten controls, & remove rights with stealth & legal pretense gradually so people won’t notice. Holocaust survivor Rudy Verba put it this way…
“The Nazis came like the first snowfall of winter – softly – quitely, one “flake” (dual meaning here) at a time. And by the time the German people awakened, we were all snowed in and couldn’t do a thing. Remember German Pastor Martin Niemöller’s words?
“First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me”
Try substitute words like…
First they came for the raw milk producers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a raw milk drinker
Then they came for the supplements
And I did not speak out
Because I was not health conscious
Then they came for people with gardens
And I did not speak out
Because I was did not have a garden
Then they came for the gun owners
And I did not speak out
Because I was frightened of guns
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Also see “Hitler’s Anti-tobacco Campaign”
http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id1.html
At one point, before the frog boils, the water is only mildly uncomfortable.
There is more than enough present context and historical precedent to warrant consideration of this incident as a potential part and portion of a broad political agenda that includes a disarmament of the populace.
But, on to the issue at hand…
What immediately struck me, upon first hearing of plans to genetically profile Adam Lanza, is the absurdity of the notion that any legitimate conclusions might be drawn without an entirely undercomfortable examination of the pharmaceutical industry and its products.
Even prior to the exposition of the GMOcide agenda, we faced an encroaching semi-public awareness of the epigenetic effects of diet (among other things). If what we eat can so significantly impact our genetic expression, how can we fail to presume the potential for certain and specific epigenetic alteration due to psychoactive chemical compounds?
Consider this: If Stuxnet had somehow directly facilitated the launch of a nuke from an Iranian facility, would we blame Iran for possessing nuclear capability or the engineer of the virus that catalyzed the activity?
How can we even consider validating any genetic analysis without a clear understanding of the epigenetic influence of pharmaceutical compounds being administered to the alleged “evil doer”?
Sometimes Joseph, your seem to paint pictures as black and white as the opposition. I’m no fan of taking guns away- but no hunter needs assault rifles and something that will fire a big clip like that. And whether or not medications help people, some of who really need them, is not black and white either. Do all people with issues need them? Probably not. But do some need them-yes. Have we done the best we can with medications- I doubt it with profit the main motive. But people’s lives can and have been turned around with the RIGHT help and sometimes counseling won’t do it alone. And hey, I thought the assult ban was ended in the Bush II era. I will concede that bad meds, helped along by Bush/Reagan, along with ending bans on assult weapons, might just be intentional, (And therefore, not just a product of Dem’s wanting a ban on guns but an orchestrated plan for that to happen generated by those stalwarts of GOP’ism, the Bush/Reagan gang) and that studying genetics and making assumptions based on someones gene wiring would be as bad as saying that astrology tells you what will happen- when it’s all about potentials, not fate.
I have known people genuinely helped by meds so I can’t just throw out the idea that meds only do harm. But it takes a really gifted and caring doctor to know how to use them, when to use them, and what ones to use- and THAT’s where a lot of the problems stem from. And let’s not discount parenting, because, since the mother knew he had problems, guns should not have been something SHE had around or in fact, introduced him to. I’ve yet to see anyone point out that that was very poor decision making on her part. It might not have stopped him, but it certainly wasn’t helpful.
In other words, DONE PROPERLY, the right treatment could prevent more of this than it might cause. However, GP’s and the like should not be dispensing these kinds of meds at all and one might want to investigate if drug companies make to too profitable not to.
I do agree that it’s a chilling idea that one could be banned from obtaining a legitimate rifle based on a gene map- because I doubt very many people don’t have some gene that would be considered “bad.” It’s just not activated or “on” in the same way, i.e., the flip side of one gene that maybe is a very good gene to have. In that scenario, the whole world would be disarmed because like I said, I doubt there are very many people “clean” of certain genes.
This Lanza kid was out of circulation for years “home schooled”. God only knows who and what he was being subjected to. I heard a doctor Gary Null had on that says this antidepressants wreck havoc on the lobes on young adolescents and doesn’t think kids under 23 should be getting them but a minimum age of 18. I am sure meds can help in some deeply ill patients but it is obvious they are all oversubscribed.
“Deeply ill” is not a diagnosis in psychiatry. There is now a diagnosis for every type of human behaviour. You and I have a diagnosis. So does Dr. Farrell. That`s how “sick” psychiatry and psycchology have become, and they work hand in hand. They just don`t shake hands. They might get germs.
Hammer
Semi-automatic rifles have really only been widely available since the Reagan administration changed some regulation.
And no one is proposing grabbing guns.
A limit on the bullets that a magazine can hold is not “gun grabbing” and that’s pretty much all that’s being discussed outside of background checks of individuals. So in fact about half of this post is simply incorrect and makes inaccurate claims that seem to be inspired by simply quoting the NRA.
And no Lanza is not the first person who been involved in mass murder to have his body studied, you may not like it, and I have my problems with drawing any particular conclusion about the human psyche from studying genes etc, but it’s not new.
You are obviously unaware of what’s being proposed from numerous directions. Their increasingly transparent intention is to obfuscate & gut the 2nd ammendment, as well as pervert the unalienable lawful right to bear arms against a tyrannical government into a government sanctioned privilege to hunt ducks.
The point is, government cannot grant rights that already exist. This is from whence the subliminal term “COLOR-OF-LAW” is derived, meaning those things which appear to be but are not. Legal Pretext that appears to be a right, has long been a covert method of co-opting lawful government. There is no right to “bear arms” against ducks. Indeed, ducks were never a threat to human life, liberty & property, other than as the metaphor – “If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it’s a duck.” What the “duck” is, I leave to your own discernment.
Enjoyed reading this post.
Great writing.
Elm,
You’re confused and simply quoting made up constitutional scholar ship.
The right to bear arms in the 2nd amendment is not come from somewhere else.
In fact there is no great movement to destroy the right to own guns and that’s just an NRA fundraising lie you’ve quoted.
Obviously, I disagree. The “confusion” is yours. What are you doing here? You seem a fly in the buttermilk – an agent of disinformation.
Read The Declaration of Independence, & hopefully you will discern from these words, the reason for a right of Americans to bear arms.
There would be no need for the NRA if there weren’t currently an multi-pronged assault being conducted upon the constitutionally enshrined rights & liberties of the American people. Today, the NRA is required more than ever.
I’am in your camp Elm.
I’ve somtimes have “tried” to get on a certain “wave length” to communicate to friends about 9/11. But some are just, for lack of a better word, a victim of “cognitive dissonance”.
I interject here, simply to say, when a disconnect occurs, this “could” be a possible” reason, in “form”.
Of course, I’ve been wrong so too many damn times, you’ve think i’d have learned by now, to avoid brick walls.
Often people ignore what they’ve been conditioned not to believe. Normal people often have no idea of the capacity of some for evil.
Many are like the “Eloi” in the earlier version of The Time Machine.
It is very hard the fathom how many fathoms deep evil goes. I’ve been down very, very deep; so deep, i wonder how I came back.
It is sinister beyond believe. Surprisingly, extremely powerful.
Elm:
The Declaration of Independence? Are you joking?
Since you clearly don’t know: it’s the Constitution and its amendments that’s the governing legal document of the US.
Really, making claims like the one you made just tells me you haven’t read or thought much, no matter how much you can quote R Steiner.
Dated for Friday the 11th of January
http://gocomics.com/ziggy/
Yaj
The constitution & its amendments, as well as The Bill of Rights, are “lawful,” not Legal governing documents. Lawful documents express the moral & ethical conscience & will by consent of the people – that the “government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.” In referring to the lawful documents of the constitutional republic & its amendments as “Legal,” is to engage a false reference point, from which only further falsehood can be deduced.
Lawful documents are neither Legal Statutes nor Legal Pretexts, pretexts which are often surreptitiously crafted & used to impose the will of a pretentious, arbitrary, intrusive & abusive usurper government or dictator, as well as Corporate Interests. The Act of 1871 which created the Legal, not lawful structure for the Alien Corporate District of Columbia, for instance, even though a “Legal” document, is an unconstitutional & therefore although Legal, an unlawful act of treason against the lawful constitution of the several states of the union & the American people.
No Legal document is greater than the lawful document upon which it ostensibly appears or is said to be based. Rather, all Legal documents must be measured and made to conform to the letter & spirit of the lawful documents which preceeded them and give them validity. Simply stated, the force of law must support any “Legal” document. This is why there have been such tremendous efforts to obfuscate the fact, that much of what is done Legally, is prohibited both morally and constitutionally, indeed, often flying in the face of constitutional law & even designed to circumvent the founding documents.
Further, you apparently choose to ignore my reference to The Declaration of Independence was as a defining – not legal nor lawful document, a foundational document that enumerates the moral reasons for the 1776 war of independence from Great Britain – reasons which also apply once again today. So you argue falsely & engage in ad hominum attacks. Do you call this “thought?” And do you imply by your association, Rudolf Steiner would have approved of such “high minded means?
Elm:
Everything you just posted is a pack of lies disguised in incredibly fake legal language.
The US Constitution is the law of the land, not some invented rights stemming from the Declaration of Independence.
You’ve just dug yourself into an incredibly deep hole that you aint going to get out of and such posting calls into question statements you make on any other subject what so ever.
And by the way I’ve read that 1871 Act and it created a corporation for the municipal government of Washington DC, that’s vastly different than the thing you’ve claimed here. And no, no one can point to that municipal corporation being the same thing as the federal government.
Try reading instead posting made up law.
Elm you are aware that legally slaves, indentured servants are not people, they are classified as 3/5th humans.
Blacks law dictionary, the sin number, etc….might enlighten some as how to become a person.
Yaj is a devil advocate, he did make some good points on previous posts that no body questioned him about…..
Here I have to agree with Elm.
In my “eye’s” the defining document of an “American” IS The Declaration of Independence”. The raison d’tere was to secure the self evident rights of mankind that became necessary in the course of human events. The Constitution DID NOT live up to the high standards set in the Declaration. It has gone downhill since then. Lincoln said it right: Of the people, For the people, By the people.
The “Law” of the land is becoming more & more of a joke. Beaucoup “Get Out Of Jail Cards” for the “Connected Plutocrims”.
The root of this “evil” became exponential; however, when the National security State became too DEPly rooted into our government.
Yaj
Once again, you lay a snare for the unwary, as if no one can read previous postings, & thereby, correctly deduce there is no suggestion on my part that The Declaration of Independence is from whence “rights” per se are derived, but rather, from whence the reasons in the form of a preamble and moral justification for rebellion are put forth, and declared to mankind & the nations.
Indeed, the Act of 1871 led to a Creation of Federal Citizens, through Legal Joinder with the Corporate Entity of the District of Columbia, this joinder having been accomplished through an issuance of a benefit, that of “Social Security.” Indeed, The Corporate District of Columbia is one of the most nefarious obfuscations ever to impose itself upon the American people.
A “Municiple Government” indeed. Answer this question. Are you a Federal or a State Citizen for purposes of the Income Tax? To be sure, The District of Columbia provides the Corporate Legal Structure within which the Federal Reserve & IRS can exist. They are ITS Creatures, and only posture as constitutional entities for public consumption, so as to Capitalize upon the moral currency of what the constitutional republic was founded to be.
Ignorance and falsehood are always opportunities for knowledge & truth, so please do post further adhominums & disinformation.
Further, “Legal Language” is the deception, which stands naked in the face of constitutional law. Are you suggesting constitutional law is “made up law?”
As a support & confirmation of material contained within Joseph Farrell’s Babylon’s Banksters, I suggest reading The Coming Battle, The True History of Our National Debt, by M.W. Walbert.
it was in constitutional language that slaves were classified as non human….armed conflict sadly is another trap set by the devil….aka a walking talking lord….when you are referring to a legal document you should include its meaning of people….think Benjamin Franklin and his involvement in the hell fire club.
You’re right of course, it is going to happen, the coming battle, unfortunately it is just the innocent that sheds blood,,,,,in potters field…not those that have abused us.
dont pay tax, you dont owe nobody anything…now thats a fiction.