This is a fun one... well, maybe sorta kinda perhaps....

It seems that, according to Wikileaks, there's some sort of "UFO war" taking place over Antarctica (eat your heart out Admiral Byrd-Nazi Antarctica Flying Saucer Research Base advocates!):

Wiki Leaks alleges secret war with UFOs in Antarctica

The problem here, as so often in reports of this nature, is that first of all the links in the article lead one on a wild goose chase, and ultimately, back to promises from Wikileaks that seem never to have been actually fulfilled. My suspicion meters about this story entered the red zone almost as soon as I started reading it, but really triggered the general quarters claxons with these offerings:

"It is said that Julian Assange has been falsely accused of sexual assault charges by authorities in Sweden which resulted in his arrest in Great Britain.  That one of his accusers, Anna Ardin, has fled and is presently in hiding, among the Palestinians, is a strong indication that the charges, according to those familiar with government tactics, a ploy to silence Assange's evidence.

"There is a very curious and questionable history of naval involvement and lost aircraft over the Antarctic continent that compels us to study further. I will pursue this controversy further in a soon to follow article."

Now, I have to confess, I am one of those who was suspicious of the whole Wikileaks thing almost as soon as it began. It struck me then, and strikes me still, that one way to be sure you can plant some really disinforming disinformation and have it readily gobbled up is to do precisely what Assange did: start a website for whistleblowers and classified documents dumps, put out enough good information to get people hooked, and then, when that happens, plant the disinformation, then conveniently disappear, or impeach the source.

That said, I am quite open to the possibility that there is something going on up there, and perhaps even down there, and that it may involve UFOs and a bit of shooting. Indeed, for those familiar with Ufology, there is a great deal of evidence that the shooting has been going on for a long time, and, if some Ufologists who have researched the matter extensively are correct, there may have been some shooting back. But that's the point: these conclusions are reached by researchers, not by promises of "documents to come." It seems to be the "story of a story" deliberately designed to provoke the memory of Admiral Byrd's warning in the El Mercurio newspaper of Santiago, that the USA had to prepare against enemy fighters that could fly "from pole to pole with tremendous speed."

I'd be the first to welcome the release of legitimate documents concerning UFOs and Antarctica. I'd even welcome the full exposure of the legitimate documentation concerning Operation High Jump, but I'm not holding my breath in either case.

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. incognito on January 27, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    Hey Jedi,

    can you give me a few website names you think have good info? I couldn’t fully load Wayne Hesrchel’s two sites. Not just on this topic but give me an eclectic mix of sites that taught you something interesting.


    ps Yes, I saw the double helix in your post. You’re just a GUSHING source of well-referenced info. 😉

  2. incognito on January 26, 2013 at 7:03 pm


    have you checked out WITS (dot) ws?
    World improvement through the spirit ministries. They claim both that Tesla was a member of their society and that they can build you an interstellar spacecraft. They come highly recommended but why aren’t they dead? Kind of like Keshe. If you have heard of them I’d be interested in your opinion. On keshe too.


    • incognito on January 26, 2013 at 7:09 pm

      That double u double u double double u witts (dot) ws

      double t

      • terminally skeptical on January 27, 2013 at 9:20 am

        A few years ago I listened to a couple of interviews on with host James Robey interviewing Timothy Thrap from WITTS. On the one hand it sounded good (going from memory: he’s self-made from a tender age, his quote: “we know of at least x# (maybe 6 or more?, I can’t remember) types of electricity, and that pathos stirring “they burnt our building down” adversity tale was endearing. Although I didn’t delved into his work my lingering memory was they wanted donations for everything, even talking to him, and that’s where I left it.

        From a distance I, and here’s the operative word, believe Keshe is for real. He has his own brand of unified field theory and constructed a model where dark matter/energy, antimatter and ordinary coexist/occupy the same locality. Superficially it sounds seductively elegant though I’m pretty certain I’ll be lacking the math to critique it when I get around to taking a closer look. But I did give him a thumbs up on some other thread here at GDS maybe some 3 weeks ago.

        Incognito, As it goes I have to bow out for a few days to pay the bills, I hope you derive some benefit from youtube the way I suggested.

        All the best and remember to count your blessings

        • incognito on January 27, 2013 at 9:42 am

          Thanks for all the info. I’m going to have to pass on the physics stuff. I just don’t have the time to dedicate myself to it now. I will keep this thread for future reference. Those keywords for searching might be of great help. I want to have the material in case the Internet goes down or becomes controlled.

          Best of luck to you and God bless. Hope to see you back on GDS sometime.

    • terminally skeptical on January 27, 2013 at 7:46 pm


      Here’s a short list of books I endorse. You might also want to enter those theory of …. search phrases on Amazon to see what other books they might spit out at you. Also there is the For Dummies series like, for example, Relativity for Dummies of Quantum Mechanics for Dummies. They might have some of the relevant topics.

      Coming of Age in the Milky Way Timothy Ferris
      Dancing Wu Li Masters Gary Zukav
      A Short History Of Nearly Everything Bill Bryson

  3. incognito on January 23, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    So this is why the trolls are out in full force!!

    Media figures, particularly CIA intern Anderson Cooper of CNN, is using his bully pulpit to demonize anyone who questions the Sandy Hook event and lump them all into the most radical theory that says no one was murdered that day. The fact that he dedicated nearly an entire show to disputing a conspiracy theory, in and of itself is telling.

    Meanwhile, AC was caught pulling a 360 on viewers by showing “active-shooter drill footage” from another school as if it was the breaking news feed of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

    But, as Cooper struggles to attract 200K viewers per night to his pulpit, an amateur video questioning the anomalies of Sandy Hook received an astonishing 10 million views in one week.

    Therein lies the primary reason the establishment can no longer ignore conspiracy theorists, because they’re now the majority. According to a recent Fairleigh Dickinson University poll a majority of Americans (63%) believe at least one political conspiracy theory.

    Ahhhh, The Great Awakening is here, TROLLS. Guillotine day is not too far off!!! Come to papa, fascist #%*@!!ers!!!

  4. bdw000 on January 22, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    “I’d even welcome the full exposure of the legitimate documentation concerning Operation High Jump, but I’m not holding my breath in either case.”

    Well, would you accept some FAKE documentation concerning Operation High Jump? Huh? Would that keep you quiet? 🙂 🙂 🙂

    And since when has it become necessary for women filing false sex assault charges to go hide “among the Palestinians”? Even bad novels don’t get that silly. And if she really were hiding like that, why is the information OUT IN THE OPEN? Just asking . . . .

  5. charlesfrith on January 22, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Lots of people are confused about Wikileaks but they invariably don’t understand the CIA vs DIA turf war which means that only when they are in disagreement do we understand their dispute and loyalties but only when they are in agreement do we understand that both sides are lying to us. This is the golden rule and has never failed to yield excellent dividends in my research.

    Furthermore we can see from Wikileaks revelations that there has been even handed mass embarrassment for both Sunni and Shiite governments. From Bahrain to Syria to Israel Wikileaks has enraged the establishment elite.

    Does this mean Wikileaks isn’t being exploited or manipulated from time to time? No. We are all victims of this fascinating and interesting information warfare but make no mistake. Julilan Assange is a political refugee facing persecution and framed charges. Anna Ardin has CIA connections (Raw Story) and most memorably tweeted that she was with the coolest people in the world when with Juilan and friends after sex with Julian.

    The three most damaging people against Wikileaks are Gordon Duff (Military useful idiot who publishes good information with bad information he seems unable to discern), Webster G Tarpley (Great political analyst who was duped by Zbigniew Brziezinski on Julian) and of course Zbigniew Brzezinski himself who played a master card on Julian by claiming he was connected to spy agencies. Zbigniew is even so disingenuous to pretend he doesn’t know how to pronounce Wikileaks in the seminal video where he frames Wikileaks. It’s a masterclass in disinformation and has damaged Julian far more than any of the people who claim to love information and hate censorship while unable to see that just as Wikileaks was rocking the world Julian was framed on fake rape charges.

    • amunaor on January 22, 2013 at 5:39 pm

      Zbig is one of the rat pack. Unfortunately, he’s also the Obama Whisperer, who has Obama chasing commies in his head also.

      Becoming trapped in Zbig’s drool is worse than pissin’ into the wind!

    • incognito on January 22, 2013 at 6:32 pm

      Please give us a link one one -just one!- credible “leak” that embarassed the zionist establishment.

      Zbig has no credibility as he is a fascist pig. His exposing Assange has more to do with his ideological opposition to the likudnik startegy of destroying America by starting a war against Iran (bye bye petrodollar).

      Gordon Duff is a man who chooses his words carefully. There re subjects he won’t touch and so dissembles using the “pop culture” disinfo line. But you will get kore truth out of a Duff interview (see the Stew Webb and Gordon Duff 3 hour interview from December on YouTube if you really want to know who’s who and what’s what in America) than a million years of reading the Mockingbird media.

      Your dislike of Gordon Duff seems visceral. You use an ad-hominem attack rather than credible arguments and sources. You discredit yourself.

      I’ve noticed that there’s a real war against Gordon Duff, Jim Fetzer and Kevin Barrett. I saw the recent hatchet job Peter Santilli did on Duff and Fetzer. The problem with his psyop is that it’s obvious that the guy is not sincere. Like when GD makes a dumb joke, Santilli laughs too hard and way too obviously fakely. I’ve seen the recent comments on here attacking all of these patriots. I know the real story because I’ve reserched it for years and I am a very intelligent man (all modesty aside). I see what these trolls write and, believe you me, nobody who done their homework would express those negative opinions about men like Duff, Barrett, Cooper, Stew Webb etc unless they had an agenda. As you can see, I could care less about political corrctness and “eerybody is entitled to their opinin” bull. The truth is the truth and there IS only one Truth. The one the evidence shows. Period.

      By the way, the reason so many trolls are coming out of the woodwork must be because these guys are exposing the criminality which must be brought to justice. Harsh justice; hang’em high justice. I’m fully aware that fully half of the Bush Drug Cartel (35,000 strong) are “law enfarcement” people. No matter. The Internet has woken up tens of millions of us and we’re just waiting for the chance to pounce on fascist scum who don’t uphold their oath to the Constitution. Yes, that quaint piece of paper will be their undoing. This is not a nation of peasants like Russia was. We are Americans, we are millions armed to the teeth, and we will not allow tyranny. Every dog gets his day.

    • incognito on January 22, 2013 at 7:09 pm

      This is the real reason why Barrett, Duff, Fetzer etc ar attacked. This video is priceless. If you want to see a cornered rat exposed in front of an audience of millions worldwide, the kind of media that no longer exists in the west, then check out this clip. It is beautiful to see these criminals who think they own and run everything and everybody squirm when their criminality is exposed for all to see.

      Kevin Barrett interview on PressTV. The title of the video is:

      Kevin Barrett: Ehud Barak Mastermided 9/11


      Check out that rat-faced zionist in the middle. Lordy, Lordy, that is be-yoo-ti-ful!!!

      • jedi on January 23, 2013 at 7:03 am

        the whole system is falling apart….have a watch of silver clouds with your esoteric goggles on….they are in full blown panic mode…..or they would like us too think that anyways

        and too think …the panademic and the fema death camp plan is on the cutting room floor.

        I wonder if Bernie wiping out 50 billion from the hollywood super hero crowd hurt them much…his quote of America is one big ponzi scheme was revealing.As it said in the protocals of sion, all industry moved too the east, accomplished…..I got a chuckle out of the Stars flying around in there personal jets, consuming 10,000 gallons a trip making us plebes aware of the global warming tax scam tenticle about to harnessed onto our face.

        The guy in the middle was funny and pathetic at the same time, and I still wonder if any acting is going on.

    • incognito on January 22, 2013 at 7:11 pm

      This is the real reason why Barrett, Duff, Fetzer etc ar attacked. This video is priceless. If you want to see a cornered rat exposed in front of an audience of millions worldwide, the kind of media that no longer exists in the west, then check out this clip. It is beautiful to see these criminals who think they own and run everything and everybody squirm when their criminality is exposed for all to see.

      Kevin Barrett interview on PressTV. The title of the video is:

      Kevin Barrett: Ehud Barak Mastermided 9/11


      Check out that rat-faced zionist in the middle. Lordy, Lordy, that is be-yoo-ti-ful!!!

      You mentioned Webster Tarpley as a good source. See my reply to RB up above linking to Bollyn’s investigation into Tarpley and how his family is employed by the huge, London-based and Rothschild controlled multinational BAE Systems.

      The Internet Reformation rocks on!

    • LSM on January 23, 2013 at 9:14 am

      Hello Charles,

      I’m a great fan of your website (you post so much thought-provoking info) but lost you for awhile when you added “blogspot” to your name- but doesn’t matter- found you again as well as this/your present commentary on this website-

      obviously Gordon Duff, Julian Assange, Benjamin Fulford, David Wilcock etc. are being fed some false info-

      but if the Jimmy Saville case in the UK (only the tip of the iceberg) can be cracked and exposed at its highest levels, only then will humanity begin to be free of its shackles- if not we’re sunk lest short of a miracle

      • incognito on January 23, 2013 at 10:32 am


        • jedi on January 23, 2013 at 12:41 pm

          incog its guge…wiki has it.

          • incognito on January 23, 2013 at 1:47 pm


          • jedi on January 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm

            i spelt goge, i meant guge….a while back, just google it….while your at it, have a look at mount nimrut….and down the mountain is where John the divine lived and Mary….note the keyhole shaped pond.

      • incognito on January 23, 2013 at 7:07 pm

        Obviously Duff is being fed disinformation. Duff is one of the principals running Adamus Defense Group. Thy are all a bunch of idiots there. We should all listen to “Larry in Germany” and the other one who called Duff a military goon:

        Over the past few years, we at Adamus have been running an informal study group, looking at 9/11, the theories, the signs of coverup, the infighting and infiltration that has become so obvious among the 9/11 truth movement.  Recently we have noted that there seems to be an increase in telltale involvement of intelligence agencies operating inside “the movement,” tasked with turning any positive direction “inside out.”

        OUR GROUP

        Within the defense sector, we have an intelligence advisory group.  Our staff and consultant resources includes:

        Top US Army and CIA intelligence professionals, two former members of the National Security Council and one former White House Intelligence Coordinator
        FBI counter-intelligence and counter-terrorism directors (former) and access to a America’s top nuclear weapons designer
        Pakistan:  DG of ISI, Chairman of JCOS, Chairman of Army of Pakistan, Head of Strategic plans and others
        Britain:  Scotland Yard Special Branch, MI 6, MI 5, SAS, multiple flag officers (with knighthoods)
        France:  Director of a national police agency and one senior intelligence official
        South Africa:  Director of an intelligence agency, multiple flag officers
        Russia:  Several top intelligence officers, including the director of one agency (current) and a former “psyops” chief and one former nuclear security officer
        Serbia:  Directors of the Army, Staff College and Director of “Psychological Operations”
        Israel:  Multiple intelligence officers
        Nigeria:  Chief of Security, Counter-Terrorism Chief
        Ghana:  Chief of Intelligence
        India, Japan, China, Indonesia, Australia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Greece, Cyrus, Jordan, Kenya and other nations

        Ain’t the Internet grand? I mean, remember when all we had was idiots like Cronkite, Dan Rather, and I forget the other morons telling us what was going on in the world? The Internet has really thrown a wrench in these fascists’ plans. Their hubris and the fact that they really can’t dismount the tiger they’re riding without it eating them is what keeps these idiots going. Ahhhhh…can’t wait until GUILLOTINE DAY!

        • Robert Barricklow on January 23, 2013 at 8:16 pm

          That, incognito, would definetly help in walkin’ the cat back, & unraveling this purposeful ball of yarn(fiction/mis/disinformation, truths –
          all e(i)ntangled, to the point of origin that, is iteself, wrapped in an enigima of corruption; not only fostered by groups within, but by core individuals themselves. Once the unaccountables, start finding themselves in lines that have some “real” sharp/definitive endings(per your ending above).
          Perhaps then, mankind, as a whole, can start setting a true course, worthy of our “beings” sacrifices; for a journey to a better tomorrow,
          …for all.

          • incognito on January 24, 2013 at 3:23 am

            I actually hope it’s not the guillotines which puts a stop to all of this madness. I say that in order to bait those who serve the dark side and comment here. I know it sounds mad to say this but these people are carrying out genocide on a planetary scale. I really believe it is a spiritual fight between good and evil. Their Luciferian practices are well-documented. I hope I’m right about them being Nephilim using the alien subterfuge and not the other way around. Anyways, I hope we do enter that golden age for humanity when there are no more people like me who have a broken family and spend all their time tilting at windmills online.

    • jedi on January 23, 2013 at 1:06 pm

      for all its worth, Zbig had a role in eyes wide shut, he is the new guy running the costume shop and hooking his daughter out to Chinese bus boys.
      Stanley was heart attacked for his grand finale, and he had complete co operation of the RAs Child. Interestingly it was released to coincide with the Apollo 11 anniversary earth orbit, where the astro nots didnt see any stars in there dream state.

      I want a phone daddy and a “bush” baby for President in 2001 via phone conference from Isis.

  6. Robert Barricklow on January 22, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    I’am basically in the Webster Tarpley camp on Wikileaks being a CIA instrument. Most news is being corporate filitered in one way or another.
    Assange is an interesting case. An obvious tool, being used to get some agendas ‘moving forward'(hate that memme), testing political/judicial waters all over hell, and who knows what else. Obviously, trying to set; as many precedences, as early as possible, for whats coming
    …”Up Around the Bend”.

    • incognito on January 22, 2013 at 6:47 pm

      Please excuse me for disagreeing with you on this point, my friend. Careful with the disinfo:

      The CIA has mostly been privatized (the “operations directorate” side), has mostly criminals torturing innocent people to get them to confess to crimes thy have not commited but which are convenient to certain fascist politicians and their “war on terror” bull, and also has some patriots in there. Then there’s a rogue group made up of people like Bush, Armitage, Shackley, “Ollie” North, Secord etc which are allied with the zionist drug traffickers (a group headed by Shaul Eisenberg and Michael Harari) and are the really rotten apples. But “wikileaks” is run by the zionists not the CIA, in my opinion. Tarpley always blames the CIA and WASP establishment for everything and never the zionists who employ his wife and stepdaughter. His book, The Unauthorized Biography of GHWBush spelled out lots of ineteresting details but curiously left out the fact the behind Bush, Rockefeller and Harriman was Rothschild. That little, teeny tiny fact.

      I used to read his stuff and listen to his broadcasts. I also used to listen to Alex Jones. It goes with the territory unless you’re a full-time researcher with funds and investigative capacity.

      • Robert Barricklow on January 23, 2013 at 8:11 am

        I agree with you incognito.
        As I said most news is corporate filtiltered in one way or another. A broadstroke to brush all the corporate tools being used by the Plutocrims. I really don’t know who is pulling what specific strings. But at the center of the web I do suspect a very sinister power in control.
        What that “power” is; is what I’am trying to decipher by/in some “mehod/fashion”.

        • incognito on January 23, 2013 at 9:02 am

          Yep, that’s what I’ve been trying to do for years now (trying to figure out who’s really who). I’ll readily admit that some of my assumptions are intuitive but hey, if you don’t trust your gut what then you’re done for. I also suspect that there a lot of “intelligence agencies” worldwide attempting to see through their maze of disinfo. So we’re in good company. At least we’re on the right trail unlike billions of others whose lives are toyed with unbeknowst to them. We actually have a huge advantage over lots of other peoples around the world, believe it or not.

          Best of luck!

          • jedi on January 23, 2013 at 11:21 am

            try too find out anything on China, take for example the JP Morgan choo choo billionaire, undermine that it was revealed that he only woned 10 percent of his assets, ie he was a representative agent,…but what sort of deal did he have with China where peasants were imported as slave labor to build his railroads…..kind of a odd relationship for a American tycoon to have.and why did Charlie Chaplin aka Hitler make Japan honary ayrans, whilst snooping around Tibet, while the Mao a representative puppet of the royal Chinese families, who are still around btw, even after the peoples revolution got rid of the smart people and there parents as well, a centralizing move if you get my snow drift….and whatever happened to the Israeli kibbutz hippie lifestyle pitachio farming neanderthal orgie country…now they are organ harvesting, running eastern european whorehouses, and showing cartoon pics of bombs at the un… and burning the shit out of there neighbors. …have a research into the rabbis frustrating letters home during the 17th century complaining…and of course the blood libels of dead children,,,and then the disturbing trend in rap music videos showing decapitated ayran women …..

            there motto is by deciet we do war….me love you long time,,it has been said to hate your enemies and love your nieghbor,…but i say, love your enemies as your nieghbor.

          • incognito on January 23, 2013 at 1:25 pm

            LMAO…that was a solid rant, dude. I hadn’t made the connection between chinese immigrant labor and the Harriman railroads!! Very true. Yep, I guess Rotscum and Sassoon spared some Chinese from their opium war.

            Very cool.

            Yes, I’m aware that there are very old and very wealthy families which fled to Hong Kong during Mao’s Madness. I’m also aware of the zionist/bolshevik/communist/socialist tendency to go after the intelligentsia of a people once they taken over. I guess it’s because those are the people who would realize first what’s really going on (as opposed to uneducated peasants). Shaul Eisenberg was supplying the Khmer Rouge which would murder anybody who wore glasses.

            About that blood “libel”: where there’s smoke there’s a fire. These scumbags are Luciferians and human sacrifice is as old as humanity.

            Rant on, my friend.

          • Robert Barricklow on January 23, 2013 at 1:31 pm

            Then there’s the Kissinger analogy,

            To be an enemy of the U.S.(or Israel) is dangerous.
            To be a friend is fatal.

          • jedi on January 24, 2013 at 7:52 am

            thanks incog…a little bit of advice to you, try not too be angry, when you experience that emotion you are being misled….the enemy is a sneaky bunch. Words of truth is the mother of all weapons.

            your comment about moses was funny….like Elvis once swooned…he buys a gun, steals a car, tries to run but he doesnt get far and his momma cries….the harem globetrotters.

          • incognito on January 24, 2013 at 9:39 am

            Appreciate the advice. I know that the pen is mightier than the sword. Besides, I’m not crazy and I have loved ones to look after. It’s just that it pisses me off when I see these scumbags passing disinfo to confuse the sheeple who are just now awakening. I’d like to be able to forget this stuff for a while but it’s like I’m addicted. And with reason because look at the latest headlines: North Korea is threatening the USA with nukes. Let me tell you, N Korea’s nuke test a while back gave the same double flash (a telltale signature) as the one detonated by the Israelis and south Africans in the late seventies. So what’s the deal? N Korea is a stalking horse for the zionist? They’re threatening the USA because the WASPs don’t want to follow orders anymore? I have family in harm’s way. How do you just forget this stuff?

            Catalonia’s parliament declared independence from Spain. A spanish army general a while back threatened them by saying that just because the lion is sleeping bla bla bla…threatening civilians who want their freedom. Madrid has some nasty fascists centered around the buffoon calling himself king.

            Anyways, I’m starting a new biz next week so I’ll be here less often. Good luck.

          • Robert Barricklow on January 24, 2013 at 8:30 am

            Reminds me jedi of an old gambling joke.

            God says to Moses,
            Come forth
            And Moses came fifth,
            And God lost $250 bucks.

            (That’s how old it is.)

          • jedi on January 24, 2013 at 8:56 am

            you certainly are a wise old sage Robert.

            I came across a little bit of info…Gloria Stienham, cia agent, Ayran homewrecker, is the step monsanto of the batman. A line came up with the batman imposter wondering why he didnt want there help….I dont wear hockey pants!

            the old T cup of pork has been thrown under the bus by her handler…….goggle cia gloria stienem how the cia used feminesim…..this stuff is getting hilarious.

          • jedi on January 24, 2013 at 9:15 am

            that joke reminds me of a flintstone episode, Fred bet it all on saber tooth, and the owner of saber tooth bet it all on gravel pit….telling fred…”dont bet on the races”…fred won the bet, by a monkeys nose, but lost his winnings to a armed robber.

            Like George Carlin said….theyll take it all, its a club and your not in it.

          • Robert Barricklow on January 24, 2013 at 2:32 pm

            It’s always fun until someone get hurt.
            Then it’s just hilarious.
            – Bill Hicks

            George Carlin & Bill Hicks.
            Miss them.

          • jedi on January 24, 2013 at 3:52 pm

            the publisher of CIA stienem rag MS was CIA and in charge of planning the Kennedys dallas route and coincidently the person sitting forward and to the left of Jack was his CIA wife Jackie O…

            You should have a listen over on youtube of Jackie with her fake Marilyn accent, chatting with Johnson a week atter the incident, she got over it fast…..Polanskis latest offering ghost writer is a real whistle blower.

          • terminally skeptical on January 24, 2013 at 5:26 pm


            I learned about Gloria and the Rockefeller funded feminist movement from the late filmmaker, Aaron Russo.

            Do you have any links/info on Jackie that are not born of pure speculation? Why and when did she turn against JFK?

          • jedi on January 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm

            just google jackie shot jfk..

            she was cia
            she was of the tribe
            she spent 2 or 3 months with Aristotle right upto the incident
            they slept in seperate rooms the night before.
            Ari gave her a horse named BLACK JACK that pulled the coffin that probably contained jfk lookalike Tibbet. Black Jack being a reference to the card game, and when over 21 your enslaved.
            her code name was lamb chop, and she was given a lamb chop doll at love airport.
            then you go look into the esoteric nature of the incident…it was a killing of the king ritual….the 3 bums, the babuska man dressed as a lady, the oak tree, 6th floor, lone assasin, daily plaza, the underpass, the shape of a pyramid of daily plaza, elm st….etc etc…
            The song bye bye miss american pie is bragging about the coup, and the fall of christian armenian vagina…protocal 27.2 all part of the nwo plan thats obviously falling apart.
            you know any criminal investigator would of held her, and tested her suit for gun powder Jack was screwing everything that moved…thats motive

            go check out operation mocking bird…

            pretty cool having the internet… polanskis ghost writer, i am pretty sure he is pissed at his wife and sons ritual murder and is whistle blowing.
            these people are absolutely bat shit crazy.

          • incognito on January 24, 2013 at 6:58 pm

            Jackie was CIA? No way. I know her family is connected but…

            If you look at the assassination film you’ll see that she spontaneously tried to tend to jfk before the next bullet(s) hit him. That’s not the reaction of somebody who knows what’s about to happen. She was with Onassis before jfk’s murder? Huh.

          • incognito on January 24, 2013 at 7:15 pm

            Please support true journalists:

            Spread the Word
             January 24, 2013 

            Christopher Bollyn is an American journalist who has investigated the events of 9-11.  He helped Professor Steven E. Jones in the spring and summer of 2006, when Jones found evidence of Thermite in the dust of the Twin Towers.  This discovery led to trouble for both Jones and Bollyn. 

            In August 2006, Bollyn was attacked at his home in Hoffman Estates, Illinois, by a heavily-armed three-man team of undercover police that had been prowling around his house for several days in a row.  The result of the police assault on Bollyn was that he was falsely charged with assault and resisting arrest; both misdemeanor charges.  He pled innocent and went through a four-day trial in which the police openly lied and presented false evidence.  Bollyn’s evidence, on the other hand, was not allowed to be presented and his expert witness was not allowed to testify.  After the seriously flawed trial, Bollyn was found guilty of both charges and faced sentencing from the same judge who had overseen the trial.

            Rather than submitting themselves to injustice the Bollyn family left their home near Chicago and moved to Europe in June 2007.  He then wrote a set of books based on his 9-11 research entitled Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World. 

            His daughter has started a petition to the Obama White House to pardon her father.  Her petition needs 25,000 signatures by February 9, 2013, to get a presidential response.  In order to get that many signatures her petition needs to reach as many people as possible who are inclined to sign the petition.  Please help spread this message by email or any other network you know of.

            Your signature makes a difference.  One does not need to be a U.S. citizen to sign the petition.  Please sign her petition at: 


          • terminally skeptical on January 24, 2013 at 7:18 pm


            Totally wild! JFK was prone to depression and entertaining in the Oval Office was no doubt a good way to keep the mood in equilibrium. Combined with a plausible “I married a spook” discovery and the case for nuptial alienation makes sense.

            If only she’d stayed in Paris . . . .

            Not famliar with 27.2 and haven’t been able to root out anything but the generally accepted interpretation of American Pie. Christian Armenian vagina??? Please throw me another clue; yur not talkin’ to Sherlock Holmes, here.

          • jedi on January 24, 2013 at 8:42 pm

            The zapruder film heavily edited, and the limo stopped between 2 yellow lines on the curb.
            {rotocal of zion 27 paragraph 2, destroy christianity.

            It has been a systematic attack on christians from the armenia genocide, the russian genocide and now America…attack christians, de moralize them, corrupt there churches, change the words of the bible, change the meaning of the words (axioms)
            american pie, pie is beaver, vagina etc, gross yes, but what do you expect. ….america is featherd serpant or quezecoatl or precisely “divine dna” from ancient script.
            have a look at the 2 coiled serpants…DNA

            THE IDEA OF MAN AND WOMEN SEPERATED IS THE MISTRUST (ENIMITY)…man and women come together, know god.
            JC was on a DNA mission….light carries dna code.

          • incognito on January 25, 2013 at 6:28 am

            Very interesting, Jedi.

            Terminally, the man behind educate-yourself is Ken Adachi. He is accused of being a disinformation plant by Stew Webb. I know it’s a pain to deal with personalities instead of what we’re really after (knowledge), but the bad guys know there are people researching them and so they place fake rabbit holes (which look real eg Alex Jones) in order to confuse you. I believe Stew Webb to be a credible source but I haven’t reserched the Adachi situation thoroughly.

            Hey Jedi, it wold be great if you could post some links on where you get your info on DNA and all these other intriguing opinions you come up with. Thanks.

          • terminally skeptical on January 25, 2013 at 12:12 am


            So the 2 correlates with the limo stopping between the 2 lines in the Zapruder film? No offense but I think the 27.2 is an example of overreaching. I guess I’ll have to let that and the other notables you offered.ruminate before I modify my opinion. The Jackie “did it” could just as easily be disinformation. Meanwhile here’s where I got my info:


            IMO there’s enough ambiguity in The Bible dating back long before Zionists were a societal influence though I guess one could reference Babylonian bankers as an example of an ever present ancestral force throughout history. Still, by the mid 4th century A.D. 3 language changes and Pope Constantine’s church canons had already corrupted the original message of Christ.

            I don’t see where American Pie is a veneration of or anthem for Zionist deconstruction of America. Although Hollywood opportunistically applied a vernacular meaning to A.P. I took their move at face value.

            You lost me on the divine DNA and Quetzalcoatl.

            In realize that in some ontological systems photonic particles are said to be the fundamental building blocks of nature.

            I will keep you observations in mind as a shift in perspective is often a gradual thing.

          • jedi on January 25, 2013 at 6:46 am

            sion= set isis osiris nephertiti

            the serpent glyph represents dna in hierglyphs, thats why the pharoah wore 2 on his 3rd eye chakra

            the feathered represents flight from the divine, intelligece a blessing from anut…the space mother god in the heavens. ie the stars….which are all connected like pearls on a string.

            queszecoatl is divine serpent…ie correct translation divine dna

            the 4 vertical lines with a horizontal line through it represents an atom.

            the bible and the hierglyphs were only meant for the royals and the priest class…not us. You can thank King James for giving humanity the gift of reading and writing to the peasents. Try reading the bible as if you are the god on earth. …and they were not stupid, they were highly advanced and practiced global slavery using deceit of every imaginable form.

            The JFK incident was a gestalt psychological event on the global masses to instill hopelessness, fear to a despotic group running the world.
            Anything main stream is dis info….and as for dis info on the jfk incident…no shit, it was a stage show of illusions of epic proportions…..even had a “magic” bullet.

          • jedi on January 25, 2013 at 7:12 am

            I suggest you read the protocals, amazing document. Although the issue I find odd, it talks about a patriarch society and the zionists are supposedly matriarchal….at least thats what they tell us cowboys cow is translated goy…we even drink cows milk….funny bunch….hiyo silver!

          • terminally skeptical on January 25, 2013 at 7:56 am


            I’ve been following Ken Adachi for years and can’t find much wrong with him although I don’t know what to make of his and Don Nicoloff’s Fukushima diatribe. And I don’t have the wherewithal to critique Z.S. Livingstone. Ken in turn is a strong supporter of Henry Makow who I believe, generally speaking, is on the right track. Any insights on where you think Adachi is a b.s artist or being used as a tool?

            I hardly know Stew Webb. Isn’t he on that American Freedom Radio along with Fetzer, Barrett and another guy whose name I can’t recall at the moment, right?

            That lamentable tendency humans have to either follow the guru or toss out the baby with the bathwater can be a real hindrance at times.

            I believe this is the first time you and I have corresponded. I value your input though at times you wear your frustration and anger on your sleeve to the detriment of both yourself and others. I wrestle with some of the same demons and tendencies as you so I value Jedi’s sound advice to take life in stride. History’s sages have counseled us to change ourselves, then change the world. Humility trumps pontification. Take a look at at Rob Williams and a modality he developed called Psyche K. Let me know if you want a link to an interview that explains how it works . . . . and all the best.

          • incognito on January 25, 2013 at 8:47 am

            I ran into Stew Webb years ago but have recently researched him a bit more thoroughly and I believe him and in him. He lashes out at Ken Adachi as a sidekick of Ted Gunderson. Gunderson used to be an FBI agent and apparently became a fake whistleblower in order to find out what people who contacted had and then set them up for assassination. Stewwebb (dot) com has a lot of info on this. I ran into educate-yourself a while back and thought it was pretty good. Just recently I connected Ken Adachi to it while researching a colloidal siler generator. I didn’t like the fact that instead of providing the instructions (which I had a couple of years ago and know are online for free), he wants to sell you something you can make on your own.

            What can I say about my anger? These people hurt my loved ones deeply and have scarred them (and me) for life. I can’t help it; I hate them. I want jutice. My dad was almost killed 3-4 times (kidnapped and tortured once) for helping US Cutoms for years (once because they stole the drugs and never arrested the drug traffickers) and all the while the vice-president of the USA had founded the medellin cartel (who was the one who tortured my father for having their drugs thrown into the sea). My father built a maritime shipping business in Colombia starting in 1936, you see. The largest after the govt owned shipping line. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg about why they ended up doing. When they saw that they were going to end up being responsible for the destruction of our firm and his kidnapping, Bush (head of the south Florida drug task force) ordered the undercover agents we had authorized inboard to plant the cocaine they were carrying and to frame my family for it. They got away with everything because the Zionist jooo lawyers (the Drug Bar) are in on the whole scam.

            F*ck them.

          • jedi on January 25, 2013 at 7:59 am

            heres one incog….

            they get deleted fast

            on his channel check out the ancient egypt one, its quite long but is informative.
            When I do my research i try not too judge, everyone wants what is best for them, some people dont care about its effect on others….they are like animal in that regard…ie like an animal that kills its prey to feed it family, they have no empathy for dinner.

            here is a short and neat esoteric one…see if you can figure it out


            hint…getting into heaven is like going through the eye of a needle.

          • incognito on January 25, 2013 at 12:02 pm

            Jedi, I couldn’t see anything strange going on with that mic taped to that glass…

            Can you give me a link to evidence showing a link between the symbols for medicine (intertwined snakes) and the DNA double helix? Or just some good info on the true nature of DNA? You said JC was here on a “light mission”???

          • jedi on January 25, 2013 at 8:34 am

            yes those sages have said that….funny i was just looking up the meaning of justify….declare person “free” from sin (slavery) on grounds of Christs righteousness or of the infusion of grace.

            The elite banking cartel have a problem with that.

          • terminally skeptical on January 25, 2013 at 11:10 am


            I say the following respectfully:

            You and your family have been through hell and I have to talk myself down from feeling slightly sheepish by ostensibly having gone polyannish on you.

            A man still has to eat whether he eats in sorrow or gratitude. Most humans spend much of their lives justifying their rage and outrage which, other than perhaps being a motivational force, is an enormous waste of time and emotion. Their mantra goes something like I’ve earned the right to be considered (particularly by myself) a victim. Our past, if we let it, can be an enormously debilitating force and a log in the road to mapping out a better future for ourselves unless we rise above this self indulgence abyss.

          • incognito on January 25, 2013 at 4:02 pm

            Terminally, I understand what you mean. But to me it’s very clear: from 1936 to the late 70s our shipping concern grew along with the Colombian economy. In the 80s, Latin America’s “lost decade” due to the gunny money indebtedness the banksters were able to push on corrupt politicians after the birth of the petrodollar and loss of the gold standard, our lives and business became a nightmare. It’s absolutely clear to me that there is a clear before and after effect when these fascist pigs brought “drug trafficking to Colombia from Southeast Asia and Argentina/Bolivia. I don’t seek to justify anything; I can prove how they caused harm. My father didn’t understand the kind of perverse game these banksters had going. Very few people that I know knew back then what was really going on although I did see a vid of Ron Paul accusing Bush and the CIA of drug trafficking in 1988. Our attorney should have done the due diligence but the zionist jooo garbage was actually setting up offshore corps in the Vahamas to launder money, I later found out. I’ll spare you the arcane details but what happened to my family is analogous to what they did to the country as a whole. Forbid industrialization of Colombia via Kissinger’s National Security Study Memo 200 and create widespread poverty; destabilize with billion-dollar drug market that can fund the guerrillas; wait until corrupt oligarchy is about to fall and offer “salvation” (Plan Colomjia), but of course privatize everything, give up your natural resources and you are now a colony. They even took the following wording off the Colombian currency: the bank of the republic will pay XXX pesos GOLD to the bearer of this note. LMAO

            the people here are completely unaware of what’s going on.

          • terminally skeptical on January 26, 2013 at 6:43 am

            Other than some personal anecdotes regarding colorful characters from my distant past the closest I’ve gotten to the action is reading books like Michael Hudson’s Super Imperialism, John Perkin’s Confessions of a Corporate Hit Man, or Kissinger apologist David Rothkopf’s Superclass. The difference between then and now, we both know, is that those who want to know have the internet as a resource and yet as a collective Americans remain the most parochial “developed” nation on Earth.

            You and I both used the word “justify” in our last missive; you as a pejorative to perceived detractors of the evidence you table and I as personal justification for an emotional state. This rhetorical dance could continue ad nauseam though I think we’ve both adequately conveyed our message. I understand, respect and have compassion for your point of view. It stems from real life experience and by comparison mine is abstact. My intent was/is to ask you, not to forget, only to temper and not succumb to the debilitating effects of self-destructive rage. Otherwise you inadvertently are in the grip and become prisoner of the very thing you detest, namely the dark side,

            I appreciate you having taken the time to correspond and all the best with your start-up (or is it upstart?- joke) business.

          • incognito on January 26, 2013 at 8:19 am

            I appreciate the kind words. People like my sister don’t even understand what hit us and attack my parents which are victims themselves. My sister went insane and her life took a horrible turn. Mine too. You don’t know the half of it. I could have wallowed in self-pity and made myself a terrorist but how the heck do you hurt this “invisible” criminal organization which controls dozens of governments??? That’s why I get an adrenaline kick out of confroning trolls. But you’re right; this stuff holds you back. What has saved me is the fact that I read a lot. I absolutely love science and detest how they hoard and suppress knowlede. I would like nothing better than to dedicate my life to real scientific research and help people with curable diseases. I think it would heap blessing after blessing (not material blessing but spiritual ones) unto my family and I.

            Hey Jedi, you know, one time when I was in the army some guy stole some money from me. There had just been a stabbing of an officer and things were bad so no fighting. Two days later I had a dream that I was on top of this guy and strangling him to death with awesome fury. I woke up because of the adrenaline rush and laid there. Not 60 seconds later the guy walked by my bed in a semi-conscious state and said, “If we were out on the street I would assassinate you”. No bull. So my spirit or energy left my body during sleep and was strangling him. I’ve had (I’m pretty sure) two more experiences like that but the episodes were triggered by sexual desire for some beautiful girls. I had confirming circumstantial evidence on these last two. What the heck do you make of that? I actually think I can trigger these things consciusly. No, I’m kot crazy.

          • jedi on January 26, 2013 at 8:53 am

            you observed something that most people would suppress.

            The pizeo glass of wine …the ancients knew about dna, they also knew about artificial insemination….thats why JC said he was son of man…from gensis 1.17…too give light upon the earth (heaven same thing).

            down load and print out the engraving of nefertti and ahknenaten. …..the one that is in Berlin. It will blow you away once you decrypt it.

          • terminally skeptical on January 26, 2013 at 10:52 am


            We have similar interests. Mine too are in alternative energy and complimentary medicine although I’m find myself detesting the later phrase more these days because it feels like I’m genuflecting before the AMA good ole boys club. But out of a blend of tact and respect for those open-minded club members as well as keeping my own reactive mind in check I guess it still serves the purpose.

            I’ve stumbled forward on a long enough alternative energy saga on which I had to call a temporary moratoriun because of cost considerations (oh, almost forgot to mention a colleague’s encounter with the classic literal knock on the door by a couple of thugs offering up friendly cease and desist encouragements). My personal holy grail is emulating Andrija Pluharich’s legendary 100% water power motor home dating back to the 1970s. My better judgement prevents me here from offering up what I’ve learned along the way but, if you’re interested, I will send you an internet link to a 20 part tutorial that gives an valuable overview of how one might approach the challenge. If you decide to watch it keep in mind my assertion that the key is using relatively low power to dissociate water through frequency.

            There’s much to learn from the kindred spirits here at GDS though every question, like the mythical hydra, seems to raise two more questions such that the greater question becomes what is the middle path between blogging ones life away, sucking up clues on this internet hookah, versus actually getting ones hands dirty in the trenches of discovery.


            Thank you for the 12-course meal disguised as a morsel. You’re a wealth of information although to the uninitiated like myself at times a tough one to interpret. Perhaps it’s your way of filtering out those who lack the ears to listen and eyes to see, haha. I’m going to save this back and forth thread with you and Incognito for future reference.

          • incognito on January 26, 2013 at 12:09 pm

            Yeah, I wouldn’t call it complementary medicine but original medicine. They’re masters of freaky words (homeland).

            Heck yes, I would be very interested in real info on a viable technology. You saw what the zionist running dogs at dhs said yesterday (via Rotscum’s Reuters no less)? That a cyber 911 is imminent. So I’m saving tons of info for the future. Bring on the link and I’ll keep your low power water disassociatiin refernce in mind.

            So you guys must have been at advanced stage in order to get that knock on the door. Do you think somebody ratted you out or do you think thy have sensors which pick up on your specific technology? Don’t want a SWAT team coming unannounced.

            You know, I think real medicine and a true look at our biology and its hidden secrets also opens up the universe for us. Funny how all the great scientists (Keely and Tesla come to mind but there’s others) were also either great humanitarians or believed in God.

            Yeah, I can barely follow jedi’s comments sometimes but i notice pearls of wisdom sometimes so I know he’s on the ball.

          • terminally skeptical on January 26, 2013 at 12:55 pm

            Occams Razor regarding the knock on the door. We had enough prominence to be discovered through ordinary means. After all,

            there’s probably 10,000s of tinkerers worldwide.

            Careful what you wished for. Be patient, the insights come in surges and waves (no pun intended) and in your case possibly in dreams. You’re gonna be a busy guy:


          • incognito on January 26, 2013 at 10:57 pm

            Term and Jedi,

            I just finished listening to an interview of Al Cuppett, former action officer of the joint chiefs at the pentagon and a Christian. This guy says there’s going to be a civil war in America soon. This guy is not a nut at all. The guy who hosts the show, Chris Zucker of Freedom Fighters for America, is a stand up guy. What he’s saying fits with lots of other circumstantial evidence I’ve come across in the last few weeks and with the recent theme of their psyops.

            Cuppett says they’ve been preposition equipment and infrastructure for a long time for this day. I’ve heard this from other credible sources. I hope you guys still in the USA have a plan.

            Here’s the link if interested:


            I hate these bastards. Their going to start massacring people in America just like they’ve done all over the world.

        • jedi on January 26, 2013 at 11:42 am

          it was a 13 course meal, the morsel of salt was the last course.

          • terminally skeptical on January 26, 2013 at 12:34 pm

            Just my luck, I walk the world wielding Excaliber only to bump into some dude with a light sword.

            Some 3 decades ago I read a book about the origins of staple foods, including salt. It had an entire chapter devoted to the edible rock. Aha, dinner, I thought, so preoccupied with the food oblivious that you had spiked it with a spiritual mickey. And thanks for not sprinkling it with MSG-Main Stream Gnus

          • jedi on January 26, 2013 at 1:26 pm

            before you know it, you are worshiping a rock.

          • terminally skeptical on January 27, 2013 at 8:34 am


            I recently posted a similar interview here with a guy who was also sounding the alarm. Civil strife may be inevitable but I don’t see it happening just yet unless we get one or more of the following: the economy takes a dramatic downturn (they’ll continue to keep kicking the fiscal can down the road with ever higher debt ceiling until this perverse game of financing our own debt stops) , we have a major crop failure, congress passes a gun roundup law, or some false flag event is launched leading into martial law. If the rumors are true that The Pentagon is a house divided then I don’t think the controllers want to start something they can’t control.Therefore I’m dismissive about the urgency of both said interviews and see them and the fearmongers more as useful tools for inducing panic and propaganda. Wouldn’t hurt to stock up, etc. though . . . . .

    • jedi on January 25, 2013 at 12:43 pm

      the 2 snakes rising up the sword…thats the symbol of dna of the snakes represents wisdom and health, the other the cobra spits venom in the eye and blinds its prey.

      it takes years too understand this stuff…..but first you must purify your heart…..sounds mumbo jumbo i know (it works though)… knowledge for the sake of it, just too know. and do evil, well it stops, its good though for a materialist..for a while anyways., ..however those that want to make the world better comes wisdom and awareness….its wierd bro, i am still struggling to make it…. i know your one of the good guys.

      I have seen stuff that billionaires would give ti all to have seen…rev 2.9 and 3.9, ps i dont believe…i know.

      • Robert Barricklow on January 25, 2013 at 1:20 pm

        …beyond the Rumsfeld knowns/unknowns?

        • jedi on January 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm

          i look at people as animals…..its wierd, and yet i have empathy and hope that they can get it…

          rumsfield…dont know about that…rum, calms me and disconnects me from them.

      • incognito on January 25, 2013 at 5:03 pm


        You know, I read the bible some 15 years ago and truly I found no pearls of wisdom. Of course, now that I understand much better what’s really going on I’ve noticed that even just reading the news headlines I understand much more what’s being implicitly said. I wish I had the time to sit and read not just the bible (King James version, of course) but much more. For instance, now that you mention DNA, have you heard of an Italian scientist named Gianni Dotto? He designed some type of magnetic or electromagnetic device which cured people of disease and ven reversed aging? Some of his stuff is on rexresearch (dot) com but there’s more online elsewhere. My understanding is that DNA uses radio waves just like ourwhole body does (the aura), which is why dowsing rods work (i’ve seen it work). I find tuis subject intriguing as heck. I’m just now teching electronics repair, cumputer and networks administration but I’m just doing that to make some money in order to buy a dark-light microscope designed by Gaston Naesses. It is even more powerful than the one designed by Rr Royal Rife. The real science of medicine is there for the discovering. I wanted to dedicate myself to the real physics of the universe by pursuing Tesla’s works (and many others like Schauberger, Moray, etc.) but I found 3 sources which warned that these scumbags have sensors orbiting the planet which alert them to the use of zero point or radiant energy. On the other hand, there are tons of credible, suppressed cures for cancer and many other afflictions online so I believe I’m going to pursue that path. That’s why I ask you about DNA.

        Do you really think revelations 2:9 is talking aboutthe Khazarians?

        Revelation 2:9
        King James Version (KJV)
        9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

        • jedi on January 26, 2013 at 7:43 am

          subtract 3.9 from 2.9


          the imposter elite bypass 10, it is a clue in the beheading of John the Baptist on Sept 11th. They do not acknowledge the king, the judah, the lion, the sphinx, the intelligent scientific beings that have wisdom…ie blessed by the divine. They are human parasites…..murderers liars and thieves. They are clouds that bring no rain… will know them by there fruits….er lack there of.

          Try reading John 2 and 3. Do note the importance of 23 in our human genetic code of 46 chromosomes. 23 from male 23 from female makes child John 2 is to the women, John 3 is to the men (the neat part is his final message of talking to you in person) ….and right after John 2 and 3 comes ……Jude.

          They hate us, they hate the bible, they hate the truth, they hate god….they trick us into making them our burden. They are beasts of burdens…..all caused by themselves.

          • jedi on January 26, 2013 at 10:31 am

            i was reading about what happened to your family….were gullible soft headed and soft hearted people

            Learn from it, and dont let it happen again….and do share that story but add it was your own stupidity to trust them…thats the lesson.

            one of the pot bellies tried to rip me off a few decades ago, I saw it all coming and hit the implode button….I have instinctively a scorched earth mindset when dealing with thieves.

            The end result, immediately it cost him 3 times the amount he tried to gain….every 2months, till he lost everything. I exposed him to every one of our people that he was doing business with. And you know what, he crosses the street to avoid me. Honest capable men have no problem creating wealth, its easy. Using knowledge of the dark side for your personal gain is a no no, but using it too destroy evil is a get go, a ok.

          • incognito on January 26, 2013 at 11:39 am

            Hot damn, a true jedi indeed.

            You know, it wasn’t naïveté or stupidity. There were 2 factors which I think contributed to my father trusting the cops. First, he was born in 1926 in Colombia. It is very hard to describe the innocence and decency which permeated the local culture back then. People were poor but decent and there were no ghettoes or the widespread loss of values that we see today. I’m sure my dad thought the cops were sincere when they told him they had to “stop those who were poisoning the youth of America” (sick bastrds). In fact, I believe the evil ones are behind that spiritual change in nations. The TV and the music shape adolescents perspectives in a hugely negative way. Their war against the family with “feminism” and “women’s lib” is a part of that as well. Secondly, in 1984 the evil ones passed laws which stated that for every ounce of cocaine found aboard a ship in us territorial waters, the owner had to pay a fine of $20-30,000. One kilo has 33 ounces, so it’s almost a million dollars in fines for every kilo. Our seamen would sneak cocaine aboard regularly when the “drug trafficking” abomination appeared in Colombia. It was almost impossible to prevent. In fact, that’s what Chiquita (with the DEA backing them) said when their ships were caught with tons of cocaine repeatedly. That it was too dangerous to try to prevent drugs beingbrought aboard in colombia. But of course we all know who Chiquita really is.

            We were literally placed between the cocaine cartels and their billions in black market profits when Bush cut off Pablo Escobar’s (his longtime associate) access to Air America transportation services. That was when things really got bad, my father was tortured, and we had to flee to Miami. Without my Dad there, things went to he’ll quick.

            Actually, I think the lesson learned is to remind people of the loss of values and decency. Young and old alike. God must know what he’s doing, I guess.

            Hey Jedi, so you agree that they’re Nephilim half-breeds? That Lucifer is the head of theirgang? This is what’s really happening? Have you looked at this closely (nephilim v alien theory)?

            BTW, I was born in the USA and love America just as much as Colombia. I remember when kindness to strangers was the rule rather than the exception in America too.

            Great talking to you.

          • incognito on January 27, 2013 at 8:53 pm


            I got the list. I really appreciate it because I know how much time and effort can be wasted on badly sourced research. Coming from a guy like you, I know I’m not wasting my time. Much appreciated. God bless.


            you know, I was going through my email and saw this comment you made about “using knowledge of the dark side for personal gain is a no-no”. Man, I sold my house, liquidated everything, purchased two Caterpillar excavators and moved to Ecuador to mine gold (2010). Lost everything, almost kidnapped and killed. I believe it might be because my destiny cannot come through profiting from the evil ones’ manipulation of money (gold is a scarcity system of control). You know, I’ve had people trying to kill me quite a few times and I really should be dead. I remember berating myself vehemently then: you mist never forget that God/Creator/karma etc saved you!”. For speaking truth to power. Years ago and not related to my family. The son of a senator and his wife (not in the USA) were plotting to kill me. He was a crook (aren’t all politicos). In the midst of his moves to have me murdered, he was kidnapped, his new bride shot and paralyzed for life. I had nothing to do with it. Divine intervention, and poetic too.

            Anyways, best regards.

          • jedi on January 26, 2013 at 11:57 am

            incog…they are neanderthals…group hunters and they continuously do evil….they have some of our dna…look at them, genetic problems. Synagogue…where they meet and receive orders for the group hunt….esoterically Saturn and its 13 moons….. us on earth have one moon and 13 months.

            I grew up in that environment as well, we use too leave our keys in the car, so as not too lose them, and never locked our front door…..that was the way it was…good times….again the lesson, dont feed the beasts, theyll always destroy you, and they do whine, complain, disrupt, and behave….well look at our cities and the filth that passes off as normalcy. .

          • incognito on January 26, 2013 at 2:30 pm

            Jedi come on man. Saturn and its 13 moons??? Can’t you please just say one, the other, or neither? I don’t care what the truth is, I just want to know it.

            Terminally, I’ve been following Allen Sterling for a while but it always seems folks are “just about to make a breakthrough”. Besides, why would you publicize your work? In this day and age most folks into this field should know what’s really going on. I hadn’t seen that specific page though. So it’s the real deal? No disinfo? Thanks.

          • jedi on January 26, 2013 at 3:57 pm

            sure..titan and pandora, like the kids cartoon, pandora the explorer.

            now if your looking into free energy…take some salt water, and..”this message deleted by god”

          • terminally skeptical on January 26, 2013 at 5:46 pm


            Don’t judge this book by its cover.

            I understand your reticence about Sterling and all that almost but not quite yet event just over the horizon. I had some hesitation about him in the past partly because of an associate who called him snake eyes, haha. But I think he’s an honest man not looking out for just himself. Anyway you know that his website is a nexus for the good, the bad and the ugly. That’s not his fault. He tries to purge the charlatans when he’s busted them and he calls a spade, a spade. The link I sent you is a formidable compilation by a guy named Lane Davies who goes by the handle seattle4truth. It is my opinion that Davies has done his homework and has a good grasp of math validated material that he must have spent countless hours producing.

            You are right to be cautious about publicizing ones work. A wise inventor either files for a patent pending or copyrights his material, No patents !

            If you want a turnkey tutorial that will have you creating “overunity” (it’s not overunity when one knows where the energy is coming from) in a hurry than this ain’t it. But I’m not sending you down some dead end street on an Easter egg hunt. If you have a mind for science I believe by the time you fully grasp the details presented in the hours of material you’ll find a way forward on your journey to energy self reliance.

            Have I built an overunity device? No, I haven’t though I have learned a great deal about modification of water into a combustible fuel. When I eventually resume my quest to take things to the next level I’ll be using insights gained over time from the vids I cited. Also I think low energy transmutations more commonly known as cold fusion is within the reach as long as the raw material remains available.

            To be clear even if you were standing next to me I wouldn’t tell all though I yearn for the world to break out of the tyranny and stranglehold of the energy barons monopoly. Guys Like Walter Russell, Keely/Dale Pond, John Searle pass us the baton in the form of a general map but only by means of personal insights breakthrough will we be rewarded by our persistent efforts. Sorry, this is sounding more pedantic than I had intended.

            Anyhow I saw an interview with Patrick Flanagan recently where he reveals that his neurophone invention has a much greater benefit than it’s original purpose. By balancing our brains hemispheres, optimizing the corpus callosum and creating multiple simultaneous brainwave states it can when in use potentially turn the operator into a savant. Seems like a useful toy for those who want to accelerate their cognitive and clairvoyant skills.

          • incognito on January 26, 2013 at 6:50 pm


            you stated:

            To be clear even if you were standing next to me I wouldn’t tell all though I yearn for the world to break out of the tyranny and stranglehold of the energy barons monopoly. Guys Like Walter Russell, Keely/Dale Pond, John Searle pass us the baton in the form of a general map but only by means of personal insights breakthrough will we be rewarded by our persistent efforts. Sorry, this is sounding more pedantic than I had intended.

            Please, go ahead and be all the pedantic you’d like! LOL

            I agree with you 100% on both points. I too would love to witness a paradigm shift from the artoficial scarcity these (bleep) have foisted on all of us to one of abundance. No better definition to “crime against humanity” than this situation. Have you seen the documentary called Thrive? Pretty cool.

            On the second issue, I also agree completely. I was just telling Arriendos the same thing. Nobody is going to draw hitmen on themselves by giving away turnkey free energy online. But I agree that it’s a matter of dedicating oneself to understanding the general premises behind this and experimenting. Moray’s machine seems super easy to duplicate.

            Wonder how this whole situation is going to play out. Will we really be free? Someone here was complaining about Americans being the most parochial of the “developed” nations. I understand the situation behind that statement but also realize that this tradition of gun rights is invaluable. Very few (swiss and I dunno who else) countries have this defense against the evil ones enshrined in the culture. If you actually read the founding fathers’ manuscripts, one notices that these were very intelligent and wise men. Very few like those around.

            Interesting times we live in, eh? I appreciate your responses and will look into it. I was actually looking for a concise explanation of the physics behind the real science without having to actually learn from the bottom up the whole subject. This looks like it’s just the thing.

            Jedi, real cute.

          • incognito on January 26, 2013 at 7:50 pm


            I can’t follow this stuff. It would take me weeks if not months to understand the physics. Can you recommend a good physics and quantum physics primer online?


      • terminally skeptical on January 26, 2013 at 6:00 pm


        I haven’t worshiped a rock since the Studio 54 days.

        Choose one: Fortune cookies or SoBe bottle caps?

        • terminally skeptical on January 27, 2013 at 8:01 am


          Weeks or months, ey? Brotherman this shit ain’t free. There’s dues to pay. But seriously, you’ve got a steep hill to climb if you’re already challenged by the material. I never said it was gonna be easy though I suppose if you can’t appreciate how Davies as narrator,(because the originator of the science is a relatively obscure electrical engineer) reconciles relativity and quantum theory and actually all four forces into a unified field theory then indeed you may need to start elsewhere first.

          Around 2.5 years ago Google videos featured a BBC multi part series that might have been titled something approximating The Quantum Universe. I’m not having any success finding it now and I suspect it may no longer be available. I checked to see what MIT might offer but nothing I saw cut to the chase (was it you who recently scorned MIT on their treatment of Eugene Mallove on the cold fusion thread here a couple of weeks ago?) How about keying in search phrases on youtube like, quantum theory, relativity theory, particle theory, electromagnetic theory, etc. and later key in names like Planck, Heisenberg, Bohr, Feinman, Gell-Mann, Dirac, Born, Schroedinger, Pauli, Maxwell, Kaku, Casimer etc., etc. Otherwise I’m coming up empty handed on how to fortify your understanding of basic physics via internet video. If you prefer to read I can come up with a few book titles and/or authors though the downside is they may be either somewhat dated, too narrowly focused or not entirely on topic all the time. If you want some titles I’ll send them.

          • incognito on January 27, 2013 at 9:51 am

            I’d be intersted in those book titles.

        • jedi on January 27, 2013 at 9:59 am

          I choose geneSiS, but if there was some blow available, id take the fortune cookie….hey incog, can you spot the double helix serpant?

  7. LSM on January 22, 2013 at 11:01 am

    “I am one of those who was suspicious of the whole Wikileaks thing almost as soon as it began”- “plant the disinformation, then conveniently disappear, or impeach the source” right on, Dr Farrell-

    “That one of his accusers, Anna Ardin, has fled and is presently in hiding, among the Palestinians”- huh???!- right- among belligerent Palastinians- and I shot Kennedy-

    I don’t know for sure Dr. Farrell and readers but we’ve been indoctrinated into believing Antarctica is nothing more than a frigid, useless ice shelf- so then why the continued interest in it?- the answer is obvious: there’s ‘something there’- then read Graham Hancock and his views on Antarctica-

    many regards to all-

    Larry in Germany

    • amunaor on January 22, 2013 at 1:28 pm

      Let’s include Rose and Rand Flamath’s: When the Sky Fell, a discourse on Hapgood’s Earth crust slippage, which ties in with Hancock’s: The Mars Mystery, in your reading list.

      There are signs that something dreadful happened within our solar system, and it didn’t occur billions, upon billions, upon billions of years ago, as the gradualists, along with their stone mallet copper chisel cabal would like everyone believe.

      Whatever it was, the event left a debris field between Mars and Jupiter and was likely responsible for kicking the Earth out of the last ice age, if not out of orbit from around the missing planet (Tiamat?), which Mars would have been a satellite of also.

      Heavenly billiards or a shoot out on a massive scale, with scalar weaponry?

      I’m sure that most of you are already familiar with this oddity – Iapetus – parked in orbit around Saturn which has what appears to be an artificially circumscribed ridge that spans the entire structure:

      And strangely resembles the Deathstar from the planetary war series: Star Wars, which Ronnie Raygun must have had a copy of, squirrelled away in his dresser drawer, when he made his United Nations presentation:

      • LSM on January 23, 2013 at 8:43 am

        Hi amunaor,

        you’ve stated some very valid points- but let’s take it a step farther and get more “down to earth” (like start with our moon):

        if you’re as well-read/informed as you profess to be (which I don’t doubt for a second) then you must be aware of an orthographic entity published as “Who Built the Moon?”-

        yes, I’m more than aware of the anomalies of Iapetus, and yes, I read “Cosmic War” (you too probably) which explains a lot upon which you’ve expounded-

        as for the expanding of the earth’s crust: well, there could be a very logical explanation for this: the earth is “growing up” just as we homo sapiens sapiens grow from babies to adulthood- something to think about-

        hope you are well- many regards-


    • Margaret on January 22, 2013 at 2:39 pm

      Wie gehts Larry. Indeed, why all those international scientific teams? Can there be something more than the mundane study of methane reservoirs, breeding/feeding habits of penguins, ancient tropical forests and dinosaurs, or perhaps more exotic alien microbial life forms in subterranean cryo-ecosystems, etc. etc. Yes, I like Graham Hancock very much. I haven’t read his views on Antarctica yet, but just finished watching his wonderful presentation at the 2012 Awake & Aware Conference. In the first half hour he presented ancient maps clearly showing Antarctica, centuries before it was re-‘discovered’ in modern times. . BTW, are you experiencing any global warming there?

      • LSM on January 23, 2013 at 8:08 am

        Hi Margaret,

        I hope this finds you well- always enjoy reading your postings/viewpoints (probably because I mostly agree with you 🙂 )- and I find it so wonderful that more women are contributing to this website-

        I’ll check out Hancock’s contribution to the 2012 Awake & Aware Conference- thanks for the tip-

        “BTW, are you experiencing any global warming there?”- no, not at all- it’s the same thing everywhere: unseasonal warm periods followed by unseasonable cold periods, etc., etc.- I know we can all spell HAARP or whatever but we wont go there today-

        anyway, Margaret, please continue to stay well- many warmest regards from me-


    • charlesfrith on January 22, 2013 at 4:12 pm

      It’s Palestine and Palestinians with an e.

  8. Tor on January 22, 2013 at 8:55 am

    A wild goose chase is right, but I’m not so sure you can blame Wikileaks. It looks to me like the Cable comes from the Russians, and they are denying that they even have any interest in the subject of UFOs.

    How we go from that to an some teleporting Antarctica UFO fleet, I don’t get it.

  9. incognito on January 22, 2013 at 7:30 am

    Assange is a zionist plant according to Zbig and Gordon Duff. Makes sense because why else would he get publicity on their propaganda apparatus. All these UFO stories being planted…very strange.

  10. jedi on January 22, 2013 at 6:48 am

    being paranoid is healthy, considering the definition of alienation from a 100 and so years ago: estrangement; transference of ownership; turn away divert; diversion to different purposes (and finally) insanity.

    I think the insane part was in reference of the human sacrifice to the moon eclipse predictors. There is a clip in Apocalypse Now with Marlon Brando character when he went insane with his little isolated piece of heaven….an alien nation.

    The Nazis set up shop in Argentina, Antarctica was a “limited hangout”, a diversion. Military men can always be counted on for being gullible and above all obedient.

  11. Antoine on January 22, 2013 at 6:48 am

    4700 people and not one witness?

  12. kamutef on January 22, 2013 at 6:10 am

    The really interesting question is what events/evidence were obtained/observed by TPTB that occasioned the need for Operation High Jump in the first place:
    i.e.: 4700 military personnel, six helicopters, six Martin PBM flying boats, two seaplane tenders, fifteen other aircraft, thirteen US Navy support ships and one aircraft carrier: the USS Philippine Sea.

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