If you thought aerial drones were the only things up the sleeve of the world's great powers in their new rush to robotic warfare, there are sea-going drones, and DARPA wants to base them on the ocean floor:

US Military Wants to Hide Drones Under the Sea

Now the question is why would DARPA and the US military be contemplating such a move; clearly, such a deployment does not really serve the "war on Islamicist terror", but one can envision some usefulness against the growing war on piracy. Similarly, one may envision the utility of this new form of "smart mine field" for the growing geopolitical tensions between the USA and its allies and China in the Pacific rim.

The mention of drone submarines, however, raises a prospect that I have alluded to in Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations, namely, that the breakaway civilization, confronted by both the Soviet threat and the UFO, had to evolve both a doctrine and strategy for dealing with both efficiently, but also a technology to monitor and reconnoiter their activities. In that respect, I have argued that the spy satellite, with some caveats, may have been as much about UFOs as it was about Soviet ICBMs...both had to be monitored.

Hence, the mention of USOs -Unidentified Submarine Objects - at the beginning of this article raises a similar possibility: with the numerous sightings of USOs and their occasionally threatening activity around naval vessels and warships, the strategy of monitoring such potentially threatening activity has been a part of the culture of that breakaway civilization

The problem here, unlike the spy satellite, is that the technology to monitor such earthly naval threats, not to mention the USO, from permanent bases on the ocean floor didn't exist in some cases. the reason is rather simple, before the advent of recent advances in materials engineering- carbon nanofibers and so on - the extension of human technology beneath the ocean surface was limited to a rather shallow depth simply due to the inability of technology to withstand the tremendous pressures beyond, say, 1000 meters beneath the surface.

Now, however, as materials science advances, the extension of human technology, and eventually a human presence, to the ocean floor to ever greater depths, will occur.

... and given the number of USO sightings, we might want to become prepared for what we might find. But rest assured, the USO is a hidden reason for this new call for an ocean floor drone deployment.

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Frankie Calcutta on February 2, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    This must be why “aliens” have set up shop down below the sea for some time and why we are trying to dislodge them now:

    “A mile beneath the ocean’s waves waits a buried cache beyond any treasure hunter’s wildest dreams: gold, copper, zinc, and other valuable minerals.”


    I was just starting to wonder whether homo sapien sapiens are completely genocidal by nature. It seems like there have been folks living below the Ocean for some time not bothering us terrestrials and now the minute we get the technology, we start playing havoc with them. I’m almost relieved that it probably has to do with gold and greed. The thought that we homo sapiens have an uncontrollable need to kill everyone different we come into contact with is too much to bare. Nevertheless, what a curse gold is on our species.

    I imagine these under sea drones will be used to police the mineral deposits from poachers– where ever they may be from.

  2. kamutef on February 2, 2013 at 7:53 am

    Hi Amrta,
    You may be right. Just working on the basis of the circumstantial evidence we have got various cryptic statements from Admiral Doenitz; about 100 missing German submarines and Reich factories that were simply dismantled and taken away before the end of the war.
    Then there is Operation High Jump and all the questions surrounding that. Not to mention the eyewitness statements of craft coming out of the water and destroying planes and ships with fire (lasers).
    So on the balance of the evidence we can say for sure that there is more in Antarctic than penguins and ice.
    You may have seen this already but there is a very good Russian video on YouTube discussing this Nazi Antarctic base, apparently it was/is called Base 211, and the possibility that warm underground rivers flowing out of the Antarctic could have created the ideal conditions for a secret U-boat base, i.e. accessible only from deep underwater and protected from above by 1.5 km of ice.

  3. Margaret on February 1, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Haven’t they already done it? Why those underwater and underground bases
    that Richard Sauder has written about in ‘Hidden in Plain Sight’ and other books? Bases can be located anywhere in the world, and probably already are, and he believes they involve incredible infrastructures of secrecy, trillions of dollars of off-the-books money, and possibly joint human-alien involvement. As far as underwater technology, in a talk given at Xcon 2004, he mentioned John Piña Craven [‘The Silent War’] who worked w/ Edward Teller who wanted to build all glass missile silos underwater because glass becomes structurally stronger underwater. Sauder’s presentation is a ‘must see’ on youtube.com here: … /watch?v=RAZYw-8OGwU . The title is Xcon 2004 – Richard Sauder – Hidden Empire: Underground Bases and Tunnels.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on February 2, 2013 at 4:49 am

      You’re right Margaret. Dr. Sauder’s research into hidden bases is good stuff.

    • Margaret on February 2, 2013 at 6:54 am

      I also wonder if the black budget/mlitary/intelligence complex pressured certain senators to vote against the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) that is favored by the White House and corporate interests (“it will help the US economy” … right! … by exploiting resources for their own bottom line is more the truth). And there are probably connections with the Navy’s underwater navigation testing w/ sonar that has proven harmful to marine life, esp. whales. Yes, Sauder’s work is fascinating to me. He’s a spiritual soul and a war protestor. I think he’s living in South America now.

      • LSM on February 2, 2013 at 8:03 am

        Hi Margaret,

        as I haven’t yet read Sauder’s book I’d be curious to know if he mentions a DUMB not too far from where I live in SW Germany- it’s located near the city of Calw (pronounced Calv- and birthplace of Hermann Hesse) nestled in the foothills of the Northern Black Forest- I have two co-workers originally from that area and both have stated you can’t even get remotely near that area, it’s so highly partitioned off- both were told it’s a CIA base where agents go to receive an “advanced education”

        • Margaret on February 2, 2013 at 12:10 pm

          Hi Larry,

          Sorry I can’t help you there. I don’t have the book and I couldn’t find anything by a search. Isn’t Calw where the US has nuclear weapons stored? What I’ve learned from Sauder is from interviews, his website, and videos. Rich Dolan publishes his work.

          That was a bit of a reminiscent look around for me as in my ‘younger’ days I lived in Schwäbisch Hall, Nuremberg, and Stuttgart. In fact I saw ‘Parsifal’ at the Stuttgart staatsoper. The maternal side of my family is from Schweighof. Aber jetzt habe ich nicht viel Deutsch.

          Besten Wünsche –

  4. LSM on February 1, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    there have been so many whistleblowers who have stated the same thing: the minute a new/planned technology is announced it’s already been there for decades or even longer

  5. Tor on February 1, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Gordon Duff says there is a treaty between governments and aliens to allow aliens to abduct humans and um…eat them.

    First hour guest, editor of Veterans Today, Gordon Duff, talked about a report of a combined fleet operation between the U.S. and China against an alleged unfriendly ET threat. According to Duff, aliens in underwater bases planned to call their motherships in and seize the entire Pacific basin, not unlike what was depicted in the movie Independence Day. Further, Duff said that the Majestic 12 documents were real, and various treaties were established with alien visitors. He also spoke about how the US has spent trillions of dollars developing advanced weaponry and technology, unknown to the public– one of his sources claimed America had built an interstellar craft as far back as 1972.


    • jedi on February 1, 2013 at 12:02 pm

      sweet….and all those kids in North America and historically on passover that go missing on passover wasnt a hannibal the cannibal child sacrifice ancient Neanderthal blood libel ritual that the early catholic church recorded…it was ETs all along.

      Thanks for clearing that up tor

      • Tor on February 1, 2013 at 12:06 pm

        Nothing is cleared up for me Jedi. It’s Gordon Duff’s show, and not mine. Listen to it if you want, or don’t.

        • jedi on February 1, 2013 at 12:52 pm

          its a telling tale that after the Forbidden City, Vatican was taken over, they started un sainting those children who suffered at the hands of the piercers.

          Why they disposed of the corpse’s in wells though is the mystery?

          • Tor on February 1, 2013 at 1:43 pm

            Sounds interesting. As far as missing children in North America, quite a few of the Big Foot links that were posted here, get into that too. David Paulides, a Big Foot researcher, is investigating the thousands of children that go missing in National Parks, and has concluded that there is a cover up going on in the high levels of the National Park Service. He seems quite credible to me. Interesting that some of the children that are found, report that they were abducted by some kind of a bear. Dr. Melba Ketchum has solid evidence that Big Foot is a reality. She also claims that Big Foot is not a Neanderthal. I Would certainly be interested though if you have information that Neanderthals are snatching children too. Did somebody write a book on this, or is there something on the internet?

          • Tor on February 1, 2013 at 1:56 pm

            Just wonder Jedi…Regarding “Thanks for clearing that up tor.” Was that sarcasm? If it was, then why? I’m just posting information. I can’t clear anything up, because I really don’t have many answers to my questions. If I was mistaken though, my apologies.

          • jedi on February 1, 2013 at 5:31 pm

            no you were not mistaken…it is not rational to chase ghosts when the culprit has been exposed red handed.

            when the “man” comes to town…you can explain to him.

          • Tor on February 1, 2013 at 7:26 pm

            No Jedi,
            I have said nothing about ghosts. Bigfoot is not a ghost. The research is in FACT more solid than most of Dr. Farrell’s stuff, and I have provided links to back it up. Your claim of Neanderthal abductions of children on passover is nonsense, and you obviously cannot back it up with anything but your own delusional ranting. Regarding Gordon Duff, I have said nothing other than to paraphrase what he said, and then gave you a link for you to go listen to it yourself, if you choose to do so. Your attack on me is simply disrespectful. Your dogmatic assertions, and cryptic rambling, which you utterly fail every time to back up with any citation or link whatsoever is a waste of people’s time. Most of it is simply downright illogical. I would really rather you just not respond to my comments, because you obviously have no intention of saying anything. Same thing I tell the Mormons or Jehovah’s Witnesses when they come to my door. I’m just not interested, and would really rather you just stop bothering me.

          • jedi on February 1, 2013 at 9:29 pm

            …i loved that reply…you have no idea of what it feels to read that.

            Thanks tor.

    • LSM on February 1, 2013 at 2:17 pm

      Hi Tor,

      will check out the link but ‘m not yet convinced all of Duff’s sources are 100% reliable- I’m sure Duff really means well but he seems to swallow everything he’s fed- I think we all need to figuratively use our gizzards (swallow/ferment/regurgitate/chew again/re-swallow before we make a final decision about what Duff and many others postulate-


      • Tor on February 1, 2013 at 6:48 pm

        Hi Larry,

        For me, I have in no way swallowed that, or made a final decision. The most I can say is that I find it interesting that he would say such a thing. It would take a lot more than his say so, to get me to believe that. When I listened to it, I thought, “hu…are you kidding me…it’s a cookbook?” Not really sure what it means. After listening to that, it’s hard for me to take anything the man says seriously. Then again, I didn’t really take Bigfoot all that serious, until I listened to Melba, so I guess in my mind, I’ll just leave the jury out on that one, and wait to see if it develops into anything more.

  6. marcos toledo on February 1, 2013 at 11:00 am

    USO- DARPA reseach lets face it the deep oceans are the best and safeist places to hide out and it it is so easy to deal with any pursusers. Destroy their electronic equipment they sink to crush deep end of problem and to spy on your rivals and disrupt their movements.

  7. Robert Barricklow on February 1, 2013 at 9:54 am

    It has been known for sometime the UFO’s undersea capabilities. They’ve been there since, for all practical purposes, the beginning.
    UFO = USO
    Both, so to speak, have only gotten more advanced.
    Terrestrial origins in current form.
    (although, it’s long-term history in “technolgical” origins is a different story)

  8. kamutef on February 1, 2013 at 6:01 am

    In The Day After Roswell, Philip Corso confirms that the whole SDI project – Star Wars Defense Initiative – was primarily about using Tesla inspired technology to combat those pesky UFOnauts, who had the run of the planet until then.
    Now it seems the intruders have switched their sphere of activity to the oceans, which would explain the need for undersea drones.

    • amrta on February 1, 2013 at 9:34 am

      Yes, and the connection may go deeper than that (pardon the pun!)

      Translate UFO as nazi/german flying saucers based at/under Antarctica/Hollow Earth. Remember Ben Rich said that there were only 2 kinds of Flying Saucers in the skies: “ours and theirs”. But he leaves it up in the air as to who is “theirs”. Infrared binoculars reveal that there is an on
      -going battle in the skies, between the saucers. This battle must be between relatively equal opponents or else it would not be on-going. They are both earth based. One is underseas at the South Pole, which may hide an undersea access to the Hollow Earth, where legend has it that the the 4th Reich is lifting safely and comfortably. Though supposedly they can send their children to Oxford, so there must be some level of cooperation at the highest levels of the elite.

      Underwater drones could be used to access and target this Antarctic enemy, whose craft have so far been protected underwater and under the ice cap.

      • amrta on February 1, 2013 at 9:42 am

        Please note that both our dear Joseph Farrell and noted UFO researcher Richard Dolan are Oxford alumni, so they will skirt the real Nazi saucer/ Hollow Earth connection every time, since the North American elite cannot afford to put a human face to the so-called UFO problem.

        • Joseph P. Farrell on February 1, 2013 at 10:23 am

          With respect my friend, I don’t think that Mr. Dolan has ever denied a human source for some observed UFO phenomena, nor have I. I have also gone to some lengths to argue an admittedly speculative case of how the Nazis may have rationalized such technologies. Where I part company, however, is with the Nazi UFO-Antarctica mythos, for a variety of of reasons, the chief being that there is really no good indicator that they brought the technology to a usable state of operational deployment during or shortly after the war. Nor have I found convincing evidence that there is or some sort of Nazi flying saucer research/manufacturing facility in Antarctica.

          • jedi on February 1, 2013 at 11:41 am

            Hey Doc you figured out the mystery of “oak Island”? In regards to your suspicions of the templars?

        • jedi on February 1, 2013 at 10:30 am

          ahh, the nazis surrended to Peron in Argentina, the antartica thing was dis info….

          Now for some problem solving by observation….the magnetic North Pole has moved into Russia, and at the same time the Ross Ice shelf dissappeared, and glaciers in Canada are receding.

          Now what if instead of a wobble, what if it keeps moving and as the land mass moves ever so slowly towards the equator voila a pole shit. Now what if, that movement is apexed around Giza and its polar opposite Tahiti? Please note that Thoth is pronounced Ta Ho Ti….which is exactly where the mutiny on the bounty aka earth happened with Han Christian…odd what happened to all those mutineers, they killed each other off over those asian beauties…..sound like a metaphor of what happened over at red beards Khengis Khans city?

          Just a therory….but they do say that the emerald tablets of Thoth are buried under the Sphinx….keep on digging boys.

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