By now you've all heard the news, and many of you messaged me either by email or on Facebook, asking me what I think of the resignation of Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger as Pope Benedict XVI.  Also, before all you modern church history scholars out there inundate me with angry emails, I am writing all this off of pure memory, as a response from people to offer my thoughts.

Those unfamiliar with Ratzinger would do well to recall that he was one of the many young priests who attended Vatican II as a conciliar peritus, i.e., as a priest and scholar-expert advising the many bishops, archbishops, and cardinals gathered at that council.  For those even more in the know about that event, the council was "hijacked" early on - according to some interpretations - by a group of liberalizing bishops from southern Germany, and Austria. There was, shortly after the council, even a book about this hijacking by a Roman Catholic priest, called The Rhine Flows into the Tiber. The end result of this groups influence on the council - for it was all-pervasive - was effectively a Roman Catholicism that bears little outward resemblance to what had preceded it: the Tridentine mass was gone, and with it, the liturgical connection to the previous 1900 years' development of Christian ritual. Effectively, an entirely new ritual was promulgated - the plodding pedestrian, dull Novus Ordo Missae in use in Roman churches today.  And, for those who really dig into the whole affair, the Novus Ordo was actually drawn up by a committee chaired by Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, who, it was later discovered, turned out to be a Freemason (somewhat of a Catholic no-no in those days). Pope Paul VI (Giovanni Cardinal Montini) who had succeeded Pope John XXIII (Angelo Cardinal Roncalli), had already promulgated the Novus Ordo, thereby entangling it with that marvellous aura of infallibility. Thus, all he could do was to exile Bugnini to be the Apostolic Nuncio - the Vatican ambassador - to the then Shah of Iran. Perhaps Paul VI knew something about Reza Pahlavi that we don't.

In any case, for some Roman Catholic clergy, the New Mass, besides being incredibly ugly to those familiar with the older tradition, caused something of a crisis of conscience for many clergy. The reason? Clergy ordained prior to The Big Change swore an Oath Against Modernism, part of which was that they would celebrate no other mass than that which had been delivered to them, namely the Tridentine Mass, under pain of excommunication. Some Roman clergy bolted altogether, entering the Anglican or Episcopal churches, which had not yet gutted their liturgy, some became Eastern Orthodox, and some joined a movement of emerging traditionalists intent upon maintaining the old ways. This latter movement became known as the Society of Pius X, and eventually French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre emerged as its leader, to become quite a thorn in the side of the reformists who had by then seized control of the Vatican.

Ratzinger was there, leading the charge for the change. Later, he would dress in the robes of a "conservative", becoming the head of the Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith (the official name of the Roman Inquisition), and the close advisor to Pope John-Paul II (Karol Cardinal Woytila). In that role, when Archbishop Lefebvre, acting under what he claimed was canonical emergency authority, consecrated bishops for his traditionalist movement, it was Ratzinger who urged Pope John Paul II to excommunicate him, and, therewith, his followers. (There were other nasty rumors floating around the Catholic conspiracy mill in those days as well, one of which was that after the death of Pope Paul VI, it was really Cardinal Siri - a traditionalist - of Genoa that was elected Pope, but the election was "stolen" from him, and thus the "See is Vacant." This group, the Sede Vacantists, was never very large, and in any case, it's a whole other story).

I hope that the reader will see what, for the faithful or pious Catholic, is really going on. The Second Vatican Council was, for these traditionalists, a disaster. They wished to do nothing but maintain Catholic tradition. They changed no doctrine. There were, quite simply, Catholic.

Ratzinger had their leader excommunicated for his efforts.

The late Fr. Malachi Martin, with whom I had the privilege of conducting a private three year correspondence, in his last book, the novel Windswept House, begins the book with the presentation that, prior to Vatican II, not only was there a liberalizing group intent upon taking control of the Vatican, but that this group in turn was connected with secret occultists: people who practice sex magic, and human sacrifice. Beyond this, Fr. Martin did not say much, but he certainly implied.

Then, the nasty rumors of molestation began to start, quietly though perceptibly, during the early Pontificate of John Paul II. The rumor began as a trickle, and now is a flood. And there is already some suggestion out there that Ratzinger  when a Cardinal Archbishop may have participated in the cover-up and the policy of clergy protection. Given the history of the man with respect to Roman Catholic traditionalists and the handling of the crises of conscience it represented for them, it would not, in my opinion, be surprising.

But there is, too, lurking in the background, all that papal prophecy stuff from the Roman Catholic St. Malachy (most decidedly not a saint for the Eastern Orthodox, nor, for that matter, the Anglicans). According to this, Malachy prophesied all the popes ahead of time by describing them in short mottos. Benedict XVI's motto, in the Malachy prophecy, was gloria olivae, the glory of the olive, a reference, in Roman Catholic tradition, to the Benedictines. Some, prior to the election of Ratzinger, expected a pope to be elected who was from the Benedictine religious order. No matter. Ratzinger dutifully obliged the prophecy by choosing the name Benedict for his papal name.

Interestingly enough, there is only one motto left, the "final Pope," who is called by Malachy Petrus Romanus who is supposed to feed his sheep amongst great tribulation. The apocalyptic overtones are obvious.

So why am I bothering you with a mediaeval Irish bishop's prophecy? Well, for one thing, Benedict's resignation, I strongly suspect, did not come about on its own, so to speak. In the Byzantine backstabbing ways of ecclesiastical politics, I strongly suspect, though I have no evidence, that Benedict was pressured - blackmailed - into resignation for his part in the "affair of the affairs" so to speak.  That's one possibility...

The other possibility, lurking in the background, is it's easy to "fulfill" prophecy when (1) you create the prophecy and (2) control the interpretation of it, and (3) are on a timetable for the "clash of civilizations." If that's on the apocalypse menu, then having "Petrus Romanus" around might help set the stage a bit.

And that, really, is the final point: it's theater.... for the moment. But if the new pope chooses the name Peter, then it might be time to start worrying just a little....

See you on the flip side.



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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. DaphneO on February 13, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Today I received this news from a friend in America regarding the new pope.

    Pope resigns: Peter Turkson reveals vision for the Church and ‘alternative lifestyles’


    Opening para reads:
    “Cardinal Peter Turkson, a 64-year-old Ghanaian prelate, is the bookmaker’s early favourite to succeed Pope Benedict XVI”.

    So we may have a new pope who is black and whose name is Peter.

    Creepy, and I am hoping that it is all part of the big game. It would seem that understanding this is the only way the little people have a chance.

    Is helping us to understand more about the truth behind events in these times imperative right now, which would explain why Dr Farrell has chosen to devote his life to teaching us truth as he understands it?

    • Frankie Calcutta on February 13, 2013 at 5:32 pm

      There really may be a new Pope named Peter? Well, the producers of the apocalypse theater are really playing us spectators like a fiddle. I guess I better start building a bunker and preparing for Armageddon. I thought it was just going to be theater aimed at emotional investment by the global audience. But it seems their scripts require that we are all active participants and pay our tickets to this theater in blood. The great bloody clash of the yahwehisms is in play. And all this time I thought it was an amusing joke to distract the masses while the elites robbed them (us).

      A Chinese Pope would be more interesting geopolitically speaking but I suppose an African Pope would give Christendom and their ruling banker class more favoritism over China in the growing resources war in Africa. I reckon the Resources wars can now take on the flavor of the religious apocalypse theater as well.

      • JHM on February 16, 2013 at 1:57 pm

        lest we forget that no matter which geographical point on earth a future pope comnes from, which ethnicity he may belong to he will *always* be a roman catholic priest of certain “rank” inside the church hierarchy, usually a cardinal, and that is the whole point in it. Again: He will be a roman catholic priest, and thus he will, due to his education and brainwashing put the roman catholic church first. Not his country. Not his ethnicity. Even all the italians before Woytiła held it that way, the most “national” a pope ever got was to be head of the Church State and, after 1870, the Vatican.

        Thus, i see no point whatsoever in musing about on these naive ideas of an african pope being different to a chinese one or a russian one (that! would be interesting …) or a latin american one. Whoever will get elected will act in the interest of the church, only the church and solely the church. Woytiła has but used his (marian) polish background to massively pursue and support the fall of the eastern block, and Ratzinger has used his german background in his philosophical excursions and his intellectual speeches. But he always ignored any attempt of the germans to monopolize him, whilst Woytiła used the poles’ mania on him to get to his goals with their help.

        Besides all that one should clearly realize the monstrous apparatus that is the vatican curia. A man like Woytiła had enough time, relatively young age for the job and enough strength to keep the vultures at bay. Ratzinger had enough strenght in 2005 and was a very close friend to Woytiła for over 40 years and could, after the death of his predecessor use his position, his knowledge, influence and connections to continue Woytiłas reign in his own special flavour, but he was a transition pope, and he knew it from the beginning, and did quite a remarkable job (when viewed from a church perspective) in giving the tiara his own special scent, so to say.

        The next one has to be a complete surprise for the world and needs to be a professional entertainer, he needs to be able to act perfectly as if he would be the one to change things, the beacon of hope for all the worried and mislead sheep of the church. If they elect the next hack as pope they’ll end up somewhere between a hard place and a rock, and they know it and will do whatever is needed to keep the show going.

        A last word of caution: It has always been the church controlling the mafia in the end, and the same stands for banks and gouvernment. Not the other way around. This roman church is *the* master of deceit, cabal and retention, the last survivor of the mighty roman empire, it is the only living remainder of antiquity, nothing on this planet is as old and powerful and still in existence as this institution in Roma æterna, and the leading players in the game think in centuries and millenia and not in terms of the (few) years of a papacy. Besides that the church has the largest secret service in the world through its priests, monks and nuns, they know about every tiny little detail of an issue long, long, long before any other secret service of any given country even considers investigating in it. And as they stole and hid every “dangerous” book on human history and origin and kept it in their archives, and stole and hid our true destiny behind their sermons and pageantry they know our past better than anyone else so they understand our present better than anyone else, and can thus foresee our possible future better than anyone else. And act accordingly and make us believe they would have lost track of society and could not adapt to modern times …

        Comprendere, fratelli e sorelle? 😉

  2. charleswatkins on February 13, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Recall that Ratzinger fixed the 2004 election. By ordering Catholics not to vote for Kerry, he swung enough votes for Bush to carry Ohio.

  3. Elm on February 12, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Latest comments from Benjamin Fulford.

  4. Milton Zentmyer on February 12, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Dr. Farrell, perhaps your next book would be the dot connecting that you speak of in your comment to Daphne? Or perhaps it would be too dangerous, as in Martin’s book Windswept House and the consquences.

  5. Milton Zentmyer on February 12, 2013 at 11:35 am

    If this Lignum Vitae is a fraud, who did it and for what reasons? Could it be to correspond with all of the other “prophecy” placed in history to be knitted together for a grand scale delusionary event? And if this is true, who could orchestrate all of this over thousands of years?

    Any thoughts on this?

    • JHM on February 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      This is a web of a million spiders woven to deceive us and to drive us into despair. In my humble opinion i would like to say yes, there are forces at work on this planet quite able to orchestrate grand schemes of vast consequence over many thousands of years. Looking for proof one does either get mad, caught in the sickening fog of endless layers of millenia of manipulation or one is able to see the obvious and realizes how important it can become when digging for truth, whatever that may be, to stay calm and keep one’s soul and sanity intact in relaxed observation of things unfolding.

      The Malachias Prophecy is what i would like to call, referring to Frank Herbert’s “Dune”, “Missionaria Protectiva”, a seed sown long ago in another age to gain the assigned results in a then future which is our “here and now”. It is, in my opinion, to be seen in direct connection to the counter-reformation, to the Tridentinum, the council of Tridentum/Trent. To at least get a glimpse of understanding the possible intent of the Malachias Prophecy it is absolutely vital to gain profound knowledge on the history of the Roman Church *and* the history of Europe since at least the late antiquity up until today.

      To stop musing here and answer your question:

      The Lignum Vitæ was published for the first time in 1595 by Arnold de Wyon, a benedictine scholar from what is today Belgium, but it is known that prints of the prophecy (which form only a small part of the Lignum Vitæ > Lib. ii, pp. 307–311) were brought into circulation during the conclave of 1590 when Urban VII. was elected pope and gained fame by having the shortest reign in papal history (13 days). There are interesting suggestions that the list of popes in the Lignum Vitæ was originally written down by Michel de Nostredame (called “Nostradamus”) and was of his visions and was “sold” as to be from Malachy (Saint Máel Máedóc Ua Morgair, 1094-1148). Which opens the next can of worms, as one can start exploring the vast field of renaissance hermeticism and esotericism and visons and politics counterreformatory efforts of the papacy and get completely lost in there never ever to find a way out of it … 😉

      • Frankie Calcutta on February 12, 2013 at 4:07 pm

        Lest we forget, we are also living in the prophesied age of the last (or second to last) Dali Lama and the Tibetan Buddhists coming end times in a final apocalyptic war as well. The Kalachakra I believe it is called.

        How the heck did somebody have the foresight to cook all this stuff up so long ago? I wonder if this is a medieval creation as well?

      • amunaor on February 12, 2013 at 4:31 pm

        “JHW: …referring to Frank Herbert’s “Dune”, “Missionaria Protectiva”, a seed sown long ago in another age..”

        My thoughts precisely! No doubt going back to the event that wiped out the planet between Mars and Jupiter, sending shock waves of terror throughout the entire solar system, maintaining a cyclical resonance for quite some time, as the inner solar satellites continued traversing the aftermath of a chaotic debris field with each successive circuit of el sol.

        As for the current pattern of events, we must zoom out and lay the entire mess of this dilemma squarely onto the crossroad where it first became manifest.

        The current iteration of the Zep-Tepi, has been impregnated of a corrupt version of that ‘seed sown long ago, replanted by a self-serving Constantine, whose flock are now reaping the consequences of a ‘major’ event that transpired within Akhenaten’s (Moses) Egypt at the tail end of the Eighteenth Dynasty and a pattern of Roman deception utilizing that same event to keep its flock subservient and blind.

        I suspect we are witnessing the massive edifice of lies slowly crumble as the elemental thrones madly scramble to keep all the various aspects of it propped up, with not enough ‘trusted’ fingers to poke into the fissuring dike.

        Moses, Constantine and the Atenists:

        • Robert Barricklow on February 12, 2013 at 5:12 pm

          I like your not enough truste fingers line.
          I’am afraid I’am going to have to “steal/pirate” that one.

          • amunaor on February 12, 2013 at 6:06 pm

            Interesting times indeed!

            As the old guard falls by the way side, the new cat in the cat-box doesn’t know what to do with the dead-cats deposits. :-()

          • Robert Barricklow on February 13, 2013 at 2:06 pm

            Your writing is rings true, with an artistic brush, that paints these traitorous ruling classes as they are.
            When I read your post, more often than not, i leave with nothing, but a Cheshire-Cat-Grin.

      • Urr12 on February 13, 2013 at 6:00 am

        Some fascinating points as usual from Joseph and others.
        One in particular, something I’d thought about as well, the fact that the whole thing may be simply contrived: an ecclesiastical psyop spanning centuries!

        We should remember that aside from the Malachy prophecy, there is a little known substantial tradition of catholic prophecy (for those interested see Y. Dupont, Catholic Prophecy, available on Scribd for free) – is it fair to say that the Malachy prophecy are part of the same canon? Well in those prophecies a recurring theme is the return of the king, often king and pope restoring christiandom together.

        That king happens almost invariably said to be “of the lily flower”, a Frankish, or French king. France was known for centuries as the Church’s “Eldest Daughter”. “Return of the King” prophecies date from as far back as the 4th century up to the 20th, and from seers and saints as diverse as St Hildegaard of Germany and Nostradamus in the middle ages to Padre Pio of Italy in modern times… so what gives?

        Well the Church was and is still a considerable power, as was France once – so is it out of the realm of possibility that the theme could in fact have been “seeded” throughout centuries by such a powerful organization, whose position has been threatened more than once nonetheless? It would be interesting to know when prophecies typically occured, was it perhaps before, or after some critical episodes for the Church? To push the argument further (to an absurd point), could a “return of the king” superproduction be in the works à la Lord of the Rings trilogy ? Being French I find the subject to be of interest. I’m also a – mild – monarchy nostalgic.

        Interesting comment from Jospeh about the ugliness of the new mass. I am too young (though not that young) to ever have attended “old mass”, but that’s what the previous generation was typically saying. It’s not the only reason churches are empty today, but if one of the objectives was just that, it’s been achieved beyond any expectation. Time and again I’ve talked to people, colleagues etc. whom I’d thought were staunch atheists or agnostics and had always been so, only to find that they’d actually been to catholic schools. I don’t go to church either. All of this in just one generation. I can’t believe Vatican II had nothing to do with it. But whether or not the themes of “last pope” or “return of the king” were conscientiously planted by catholic authority, hardly any catholic knows about them today, apart from a small group on the internet – it’s hard to believe they would have any traction, should some “elites” chose to activate, play out such scenarios.

        • JHM on February 16, 2013 at 2:19 pm

          The frankish usurper kings ruled the areas which are now (parts of) Germany, France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Luxemburg, Switzerland, Northern Italy and Northern Spain after they ruined the merovingian dynasty and conquered the east-saxons and other pagans with the help and blessing of the roman church. Carolus Magnus ruled the largest empire since the downfall of Rome in his time, and he is considered the father of the german as well as the french nation.

          There are serious prophecies about the return of the Emperor in the last days after the big war, and after the expulsion of the Pope out of Rome and the destruction of the seven hills, when the slain bodies of priests fill the streets and the Tiber river runs red in blood. About the coronation of the Emperor by the Pope in Cologne when the last battle of the last war has been fought. The Emperor is a very old man and has heard Hitler speaking on the Radio as a child, it is said in these Prophecies.

          A lot of stuff existing in this regard, quite serious and interesting, but sadly only in german language, as far as i know.

      • LSM on February 13, 2013 at 8:02 am

        Hi JHM- hoffe, es geht Dir gut-

        am answering this as a collective answer to all of your very inciteful postings-

        your historical knowledge is very commendable (much more than mine not to mention Dr. Farrell’s)-

        BUT: just heard this morning on German MSM radio (SWR3) that “Bennie the Rat” had successful heart surgery 4 months ago where his pacemaker batterie was replaced- addendum: report stated operation was successful and wasn’t the reason for his resignation- so what was?-

        not that I have much faith in any MSM reports regardless of country-
        but I stick to my opinion guns: big-money = paedophilia-

        it is only when humanity will be able to crack who is behind the internationally organized paedophile rings will we be able to crack the source of the hidden financial system-

        stay well- Grüße-


        • amunaor on February 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm

          Larry, how long is the warranty on the new battery, and does it have a remote kill switch?

          Cocaine Importers of America most likely told Bennie da Rat: No steppy da down, no getty da ticker power supply…obviously because of some infringement of ‘Free Racketeer’ policy. (Getting too Social, talking to Commies or Islamists would land anyone of import within their cross-hairs)

          I bet if Bennie were towing the company line, none of these rotten scandals would be splattered on public walls or available to read about in rags placed at grocery checkout lines.

          Whose toes did Bennie step on?

          Bennie should just fess up and spill the beans, but they’re hold his ticker hostage.

          • LSM on February 15, 2013 at 8:36 am

            “Whose toes did Bennie step on?”

            http://www.itccs.org (just for starters)

          • amunaor on February 15, 2013 at 4:08 pm

            Thanks for the link Larry!

            I like the banner image with the crime tape surrounding the compound.

            But the following quip makes one want to wretch as it drips with so much hypocrisy: ”Your obligation to the Vatican through the Lateran Treaty does not negate or nullify the requirements of these ‘higher moral’ and international laws…”

            It appears we have one multinational criminal cartel jabbing its accusative finger into the face of another multinational criminal cartel…..sort of like frantically condemning your own image in the mirror until the finger bleeds upon the cut glass.

            What a list of list of dirty laundry items! No doubt, it should elicit quite a throng of gathering spectators preparing for the banquet as they have their minds washed with some ‘deep state’ black smoke pouring from the Vatican chimney.

            Should be very interesting as to who comes out on top.

  6. amunaor on February 12, 2013 at 12:00 am

    The following quote from Elm’s (Money Scandal Behind Papal Coup d’Etat) link says it all: “”You must understand that in my country, the Mafia and the government and the Vatican are all the same people, and they really have only one concern: protecting their assets.”

    Ratzinger’s feigned retirement may be related to the Vatican Bank, Banco Ambrosiano and its invitation of high ranking members from Propaganda Due into its fold – a pseudo-masonic lodge, and invisible instrument of the state (P2 – 1945 to 1976 when its charter was revoked; RIGHT!)

    P2 & Banco Ambrosiano, operating in close harmony with CIA interests, honed to dismember any aspirations threatening the capital market place, god’s bank became a laundry-mat for a vast and lucrative narcotics ring which proceeds went to fund off radar projects such as the assassination of Aldo Moro and other terrorist activities that scandalized an expansive landscape throughout the 70’s and 80’s, ending with one of god’s bankers, Roberto Calvi , swinging from scaffolding of Blackfriars bridge in London.

    Richard Cottrell in his work: GLADIO, connects the dots, pointing out that the assassination attempt on John Paul II came from within this same merry band of ‘Free Racketeers’, which the Public Relations Firms had already cooked up story to lay blame at the doorstep of Soviet Union in the aftermath. You see, like JFK, John Paul was getting too friendly with the commies. And, if it hadn’t of been for the vile, right wing rhetoric spouted by the agitators Maggie Thatcher and Ronnie Raygun, prolonging the commie nemesis, John Paul would have dissolved the wall long before.

    In the process, the Maggie-Ronnie love affair, gave the Industry of Death and Destruction (MIC) a several trillion dollar shot in the arm.

    Unless ill health takes god’s Rottweiler, I suspect that Papa Ratzi will remain back stage, with his hand firmly up the backside of the chosen puppet; closely animating Peter’s thinking processes.

    • JHM on February 12, 2013 at 4:52 am

      May i add that the Vatican Bank is nearly completely blocked from dealings on the international financial markets since at least 2011 when the European Central Bank stopped all direct dealings with that bank, as did all european national banks, and has, for instance, lost all credit card payment opportunity late last year, which is the main reason why every tourist wonders why all fees in the vatican have to be paid cash since then. The Vatican Bank is in dire international financial isolation at this point in time, and one wonders how the hell they are doing any business at all under these circumstances. One asnwer would be the Mafia, the more obvious and, i would suspect, more realistic one is that all Vatican financial transactions at the moment are done via the obscenely rich Archdiocese of Cologne (with an estimated 69 billion €uro yearly revenue alone!) and via Deutsche Bank. As Deutsche Bank Italia, which is officially a completely independent italian bank not in any way connected to Deutsche Bank Germany (besides some rather non-important historical background, you know …) has been caught in a scandal lately, laundering and transferring vast amounts of cash checks from the Vatican into the German banking sector i would tend to think that here is how the Vatican is doing business at the moment, via some rather strange channels to the immensely rich german dioceses.

      And, btw. the church (roman-catholic and protestant together) is the second largest employer in Germany right behind the gouvernment, they are tax-excempt and have effectively a monopoly on social services, from hospitals over schools to Kindergarten, the churches are paid more than 96% of their expenses by the state due to the “Reichskonkordat” of 20th of July, 1933, a contract between the then Hitler gouvrenment of the Reich and the roman chruch which is still unaltered and valid today and which gives the roman church near complete freedom of any obligation to the state and makes it de facto and de jure a state inside the state, church personnel is near sacrosanct, the state collects the church taxes, the state pays the salaries of nearly all church personnel including bishops and archbishops, who earn as much (and in some cases even more) as the minister presidents of the german lands, and so on and so on.


      It is an outrage that this concordate is still in valid existence, and the angry voices demanding its abolishment in light of the actual scandals of the roman church are growing stronger any day.

      • amunaor on February 12, 2013 at 2:46 pm

        There’s definitely some nasty stuff going on behind the curtain!!

        JHM – This combo of text sticks out like a big sore thumb within your response: “…church has a monopoly on social services…”.

        Let me reiterate that this is precisely the type of activity that set off sirens and ‘red’ flags within psychotic minds of the ‘Free Racketeers’; constantly stressing to improve the pernicious bottom-line, is precisely what landed JFK, John Paul II, Aldo Moro, Salvador Allende, Anna Lindh, Olof Palme,Folke Bernadotte, Charles de Gaulle, to mention just a few within the gun sights of this lawless ‘Free Market’ place.

        These folks prefer brutal policemen like Pinochet to maintain their paradigm of a monetized and commodified humanity dwelling beneath its boot, all the while socializing their illicitly gained loot in the secrecy of the upstairs chambers.

        Any notion of ‘family’ networking arising beneath this boot is converted into a splatter of blood for all to see. Such thoughts are not conducive to big profits. For who can speculate on ‘social service’?

      • Frankie Calcutta on February 12, 2013 at 3:30 pm

        “May i add that the Vatican Bank is nearly completely blocked from dealings on the international financial markets since at least 2011 when the European Central Bank stopped all direct dealings with that bank, as did all european national banks, and has, for instance, lost all credit card payment opportunity late last year,”

        In my mind any change in the current status of the Vatican Bank following Ratzinger’s departure and/or the selection of the next Pope would be a big clue in this murky business. But when we talk about the European Central Bank are we talking about Germany or the City of London? It seems to me this Vatican shake up has something to do with a power struggle between these two rivals and who has ultimate control over issuing Europe’s debt (or not issuing it) along with possibly control over the soul and levers of the Vatican. This comes hot off the heels of a new big Italian bank scandal involving allegedly the “world’s oldest bank” Monti Di Paschi Di Siena and the Italian head of the European Central Bank. Somehow I suspect this is all connected.

        Either a German offensive on banksters or a bankster counter-offensive on Germans.

        • JHM on February 12, 2013 at 4:15 pm

          Either a German offensive on banksters or a bankster counter-offensive on Germans.

          Both. And i would tend to caution the City and some other places where banks use to reside in larger quantities to not dwell on old certainties and won wars, as the Germans have learned quite a bit since they were humiliated to their pitch black core by a certain banksters cartel. There are vast bills to be repaid, and next year is the 100st anniversary of a certain quarrell between several players on the world stage and the then German Empire …

          The problem with the Germans is that they tend to indeed completely lack any humour when it comes to resentfulness and dead serious revenge.

          • Enlil's a Dog on February 13, 2013 at 5:02 am


            as I lived in Germany (Bruhl) for nearly two years I can attest to that statement. Whilst I detected no hint of any wish to return to a fascist society I did detect some subtle ant-British & and anti-American fervour amongst some people I knew – along the lines of, “yes, we are now friends, but we have long memories”.

            Regarding your intitial post referring to the Papal prophecies, even though there is a serious argument to be made against their legitimacy, should we also not take heed of the psychological aspect of it as well?

            Naysayers can point to history and say this or that regarding their legitimacy, but how would those naysayers defend a sophisticated false flag event such as Jesus sitting on a white cloud over Vatican City, for example?

            It would be difficult to argue one’s point to the unwashed if all they can see is the Saviour smiling down at them from upon high?

            Just a thought.


  7. Nidster - on February 11, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    Well from my reading, and understanding from all sorts of material, as well as Tom Horn’s/Chris Putnam’s work “The Final Pope” and Dr. Ferrell’s works, my perspective tells me we ALL should get ready for the biggest deception, mis-direction ever witnessed. A double whammy and boomerang type spin that will leave ALL our heads spinning and leave us reaching for something stable. Wonder what that will be?

    Someone posted about the use of “Petrus Romanus” being just an euphemism for the papacy. A point made very clear in Tom Horn’s/Chris Putnam’s work “The Final Pope” and in their interviews. There is so much information in the book that comes from various sources. So even if we don’t agree with their conclusions, beliefs (or unbeliefs) the information is still valid. Many other mis-interpretations or mis-understandings are being made these days. The deep divisions between us works to the advantage of the enemy.

    My belief is no one knows what is really going to happen. Divisions between us strengthens the advantage our enemies have against us. Humanity’s enemies may have a far greater understanding of reality, and what has actually taken place, and what they plan for the immediate future of humanity than any of us. We are speculating to a large extent. All of us.

    One of the more interesting themes in Tom Horn’s/Chris Putnam’s work “The Final Pope” and subsequent interviews are the machinations going on behind the scenes that appear to be Mafioso-like. Why? Something Big is Coming. I have thought in the past 3 years it would start sometime on or around the Spring Equinox, 2013. I have not sorted it all out and do not suggest any time frame for future events. It may never be sorted out ahead of time because as said above future events will be truly deceptive, but all encompassing.

    Another very important issue is this….what TIME is it? Does anyone know for sure what TIME it is?

  8. marcos toledo on February 11, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Thank you Joseph Farrell yours comments are the most interesting I have seen and heard this day. Would you like to comment on the rumour I have heard that PIUS the X11 was killed because he was about to have publish an Papal Encyclical denouncing Fascism was any substance to this rumour or not in view of certain members helping Nazi’s escaping after WW2.

  9. Elm on February 11, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Joseph, you may also find this perspective by Kevin Annett of interest.

    “Money Scandal Behind Papal Coup d’Etat”

    • Margaret on February 11, 2013 at 9:27 pm

      … and note the link to this page at the bottom of his article.

  10. Nephilim1985 on February 11, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    The Pope he announced his resignation on the 11th..we all know the love of certain elites for the number 11.He announced that he will abdicate the papal throne on February the28th at 8pm in Rome.Now,Febrauary 28th: Saint Roman.Nice!And secondly…who the heck resigns at 8pm?!You resign say at midnight of a day,not 8pm.So i guess there must be some ritual of some sort in play or star alignment.
    But here’s where it gets really interesting:before the first opening of the Conclave and the election of the next pope, His Eminence Cardinal Tarcisio PIETRO Evasio Bertone will be the Camerlengo and preside over the vacant seat, taking de facto upon himself all the powers and functions of the Pope, including the ability to print money. So this would surprisingly fullfil the prophecy of Bishop Malachy that said that the pontificate of Petrus Romanus,”Peter the Roman”, will end in the destruction of the city of Rome,
    since the Camerlengo,in fact,has the middle name “Peter” and is of a place called… Romano Canavese.

    Food for thought.

    • DownunderET on February 11, 2013 at 8:31 pm

      Of course, star alignment, I never thought of that one and it does conjure up some juicy memes.

      If anybody ever had any doubts about the power of Rome, just look at every newspaper and TV channel around the globe, there wouldn’t be another subject that could top the CEO of Rome checking out.

      As they say in journalism, WATCH THIS SPACE (excuse the pun).

  11. LSM on February 11, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    wow, absolutely wow Dr. Farrell, your knowledge of chuch history (history in general) continues to positively boggle my mind (wish I could’ve been one of your students in Tulsa- bet I would’ve been more receptive than most 🙂 )- I’m just so envious of your intellect and knowledge (it’s why I so avidly read your books and follow your website)- why weren’t the rest of us privy to this info?-

    Godfrey, Dr. Farrell, how are you able to retain so much info in your head and type it out so quickly at a moment’s notice?- yes, I’m aware you command keyboard skills via ‘organ’ but an organ manuell is still a bit different than a PC type-pad- or is it the foot-work is missing? (you know what I mean) 🙂

    anyway, Dr. Farrell, when I read postings like this from you I feel like I’m the dumbest person in the world… 🙁

    but my gut feeling tells me there’s more to the resignation of “Bennie the Rat” (to quote Michael Rivero of whatreallyhappened.com) than meets the eye (I may be “stoopid” but my gut feelings have never led me astray)- I think a lot more will emerge in the next few weeks/months about this- not to mention the Jimmy Saville case in Britain- I think all of this is related and the collective house of cards involving the Vatican, British Royals, etc. is about to crumble (at least I hope)-

    many warmest regards- please continue to stay safe and well-

    Larry in Germany

  12. DownunderET on February 11, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Just to tone down the discussion here, the point I was making was that the book mentioned that the next pope would take the name of Peter.

    Lets not forget what just happened, the pope just threw in the towel citing old age and a few other things. And condsidering that I am a card-carrying conspiracy theorist, and that the vatican has been up to its ears in controversy, INCLUDING THE VATICAN BANK, then the election of a successor seems to be a second string in the bow.

    I agree with Dr. Farrel in as much as I believe the he was, without doubt, “pushed”, but the real question is “who pushed and why”.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on February 11, 2013 at 4:32 pm

      I know that Downunder…I wasn’t criticizing, but merely trying in the clearest way to dissociate myself from any form of evangelicalism or dispensationalism and from Mr. Horn. Now… as for the idea the next pope would be named Peter, there is one OTHER school of thought within Roman Catholicism about the Malachy prophecies, and that is between gloria olivae and Petrus Romanus, there may be an intervening period of several popes.

  13. p on February 11, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    It is interesting that one of the perceived forerunners for the new pope would be a Peter, Peter Turkson. He would also be a Black Pope.

    • JHM on February 11, 2013 at 6:27 pm

      This “Peter the Roman” things does seem to get a bit out of hand as some people writing books seem to have little knowledge on the matter. Certainly this does not include Mr. Farrell here, who awlays knows his subjects quite extraordinarily well.

      The term “Petrus Romanus” in the 1595 Lignum Vitæ published by Arnold de Wyon is nothing but the use of euphemism for the papacy per se, but used in a way and context which makes it easy to be attributed to a designated person, a trick used in the latin orginal and perpetuated in every translation since.

      Again: “Petrus Romanus” is an euphemism for the papacy, and, on a wider perspective, for the roman church. It is not a name of a (future) pope. It only leads quite very conveniently to the conclusion to imply that it would be meant as name of a pope.

      Then: The last segment of the list and descriptions, which can be read and interpreted in two quite different ways.

      On the one hand it could be read as:
      “Gloria olivæ. In ꝑsecutione extrema S.R.E. ſedebit.”

      Or it could be read as:
      “In ꝑsecutione extrema S.R.E. ſedebit. Petrus Romanus, qui paſcet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus tranſactis ciuitas ſepticollis diruetur, & Iudex tremẽdus iudicabit populum ſuum. Finis.”

      I tend to believe that the first part above is originally attributed to “Gloria olivæ”, which would make sense given the whole text and its arrangement, but most people simply love to attribute it to “Petrus Romanus”, as this makes the whole thing far more doomy gloomy.

      Gloria olivæ (attributed to Benedict XVII. as an olive branch is part of the coat of arms of the benedictine order): In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit.

      It would make sense, given especially the massive pedophilia scandals and, for instance, the *big* trouble the church is in here in Germany at the moment due to raising anger in public opinion on her role in society at large, from sexual abuse to financial fraud to powerplay and interference in matters of state. Maybe all this is not known so much outside of Germany, but one must go as far back as to Bismarcks “Kulturkampf” to find a public sentiment as anti-catholic and dangerous for the roman church as one can watch these days.

      As a last caution on Malachias: It is well known and well invetsigated by scholars on the subject of prophecies that the “Lignum Vitæ” is a fraud, a hoax first emerged around the conclave leading to the election of Pope Urban VII. in 1590 and later on published in 1595 in some quantity. One should take this into consideration when referring to that “Petrus Romanus” ocean of interpretation …

      • Joseph P. Farrell on February 11, 2013 at 6:30 pm

        GREAT comment JHM thank you for contributing this information!

        • JHM on February 11, 2013 at 9:00 pm

          There is one tiny bit in the puzzle which i today remembered. When Cardinal Ratzinger became Pope Benedictus XVI. he made quite a statement of his Pallium to be a vital part of his vestments and his coat of arms. This was not just a sidenote about some part of papal liturgical clothing, it was far more, as he personally looked after the design of the Pallium being brought back to its origins, far longer, differently worn, in the orginal byzantine style and with red crosses on it, like in byzantine and medieval times. The last pope to wear the pallium in this older, byzantine fashion before Benedictus XVI. is said to have been Cœlestinus V. in his short pontificate in 1294. He resigned as Pope, and remains the only one to do so freely, and he was also the one decreeing the canonic law paragraph regarding the resigning of a pope. When Benedictus XVI. visited Aquila on 28th of April 2009, after a heavy earthquake hit that city, he visited the shrine of Pope Cœlestinus V. in the badly damaged church of Santa Maria di Collemaggio there. There he laid his investiture pallium on the glass coffin of Cœlestinus V. as a gesture. This design of the pallium was not used anymore at that date, as another form was in use since 29th of June 2008, day of St Peter and Paul, a design of Pallium that is historically closely connected to the times of the Tridentine Reform, the counter-reformation, as are since 2008 the vestments of the pope very much in the style of Carlo Borromeo, a main figure in the counter-reformation, often regarded as the ideal prince of the church. This new tridentine design of the Pallium seems to be quite important, as even the already long finished mosaic medaillon of Pope Benedictus XVI. in the Papal Basilica of San Paolo fuori le Mura in Rome was changed to fit the new pallium design, the first time ever a papl mosaic medaillon was changed after its completion. There are *265* original medaillons in the frieze along the main hall of the basilica, all portraits before the one of Urban VII. (the one on whose conclave the Malachias Procesy was first made public) are idealised images of the respective popes, all papal portraits from after Urban VII. are realistic depictions. Pope John Paul II. ordered in his papacy to add 25 new empty medaillons to the frieze of popes, so 25 of the medaillons are still empty.

          There are moments in which that most uncomfortable feeling creeps upon my spine that all this pope and church stuff has long since made its sparkling glittering way from totally bizarre to completely elusive …

  14. Robert Barricklow on February 11, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    “They” wrote the book on this sometime past.
    The actors are now taking stage;
    playing their parts.
    I suspect Peter is just-off in the wings.
    He has, no doubt,been skooled in his part since
    …God knows when.

    Theatre of the PSYOPS,
    brought to you in living ecclesiastical color.

    • Elm on February 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm

      Without doubt, the Vatican is the most dense agglomeration of black occultic practitioners in the world – an epicenter of the Luciferic art or craft of concealing darkness in light – an occultic mechanism which causes a people to be deceived & embrace their own destroyer.

      As Reverend Alexander Hislop reveals in his treatise The Two Babylon’s, Rome is the current repository, & home, of the priests of the caaniba’alistic cult Ba’al Peor – Cann-i-baal, meaning a “priest” of Ba’al Peor.

      The Pope is the personification of Beelzabub, the Philistine Lord of The Flies. Like Santa Claus, the Pope also wears the red & white garments of the psychotropic amanita mescaria mushroom, commonly known as the fly agaric or fly amanita. Wikipedia records, “Biblical scholar John Marco Allegro controversially proposed that the Roman Theology was derived from a sex and psychedelic mushroom cult in his 1970 book The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub

      Also see, The Rite of Sodomy Homosexuality and the Roman Catholic Church by Randy Engel. http://www.amazon.com/Sodomy-Homosexuality-Roman-Catholic-Church/dp/0977860132

      As well as… The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality Within The Nazi Movement.
      The militant homosexist cult apparently doesn’t like the book, but its documented contents certainly go a long way to explaining the fascism & barbarism of the Nazi movement. http://www.amazon.com/Pink-Swastika-Scott-Lively/dp/0964760975/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360794993&sr=1-1&keywords=the+pink+swastika

      The Pink Swastika book can be reviewed freely at, http://www.thepinkswastika.com/ & http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

      • amunaor on February 13, 2013 at 6:12 pm

        Elm, the term ‘Occult’ does not imply evil, it just means hidden and for good reason. A fire that keeps one warm, misappropriated by those hands that perceive such forces as weapons of power, can also set the world on fire, are a danger to all.

        When the moon occults the sun, there is nothing evil transpiring, only the orb of the moon passing over the face of the face of the sun, ‘hiding’ it from view.

        Many of the negative mushroom stories were cooked up by the early church, used like a STOP sign, don’t look in there to fend off curiosity. Read Graham Hancock’s – Supernatural.

        Allegro, working with the Dead Sea Scrolls, did find a mushroom, possibly psilocybin, connection to the early church in Greece – The Road to Eleusis by Gordon Wasson, Albert Hofmann and Carl A. Rick

        The church, of course, quick to shield its dogma from such irritating trespassers, having their own printing press, immediately began to heap slanderous remarks upon Allegro’s findings, kicked Allegro out of the, Vatican, handpicked pool chosen to review all scroll material coming out of Qumran caves, who had been given stringent instructions that no decipherment was to be countenanced that might step on the toes of existing dogma; that monopoly held from 1948 until 1996, but by that time the damage was already far too great, much of the findings having been buried it church-print. Michael Baigent – The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception.

        Allegro published his mushroom book in the midst of all this turmoil.

        Didn’t care for Hislop, can’t comment on the rest.

        • Elm on February 13, 2013 at 8:35 pm

          Yes, Dion Fortune wrote “Sane Occult,” suggesting an occulted adept of the “white” right-handed, as opposed to Crowley’s “black” left-handed path. Apparently, Fortune attributes her development of cancer to her occulted war with the Nazis. It’s interesting, Obama who ever he is, is left-handed.

          No doubt about the negative mushroom stories, or for that matter the demonization of hemp. And certainly a control of history is a vital interest, often providing a pretext for a creation of the future. Indeed, it is very difficult for humanity to benefit from the lessons of history if history has been falsified & selectively edited. No wonder history always repeats itself, or as Voltaire writes, “History never repeats itself, man always does.”

          • Robert Barricklow on February 14, 2013 at 8:28 am

            History is key. Orwell, famously wrote that those who control it; control past, present, & future. Voltaire also nails it. I prefer Napoleon’s, an agreed upon fable.

            I wonder, if the fighting captain, cochrane, had rescued napoleon from elba, ….
            what those dynamic duos, ensuing pages of history would be like?
            Cochrane: The Life and Exploits of a Fighting Captain by Robert Harvey.

      • amunaor on February 13, 2013 at 6:38 pm

        Amanita is the mushroom that gives flight to Santa’s reindeer, because reindeer are known to love this particular spore:


        • Frankie Calcutta on February 13, 2013 at 8:46 pm

          While mushrooms are an interesting teaching plant and their negligible karmic impact along with the ease in which they travel throughout space and proliferate is enviable, they were not part of the Soma formula. In fact they were viewed by the Rishis as being an impediment to spiritual growth and even the non psilocybin mushrooms were avoided as food.

          I have many fond memories of preparing the Soma, which we referred to as the Sacrament. Some of the ingredients we used were reed grasses, the stems of water lilies, and of course the sacred lotus of India to name just a few. The Ceremony always took place on the Day devoted to the worship of the Sun with the Vedic priests officiating in their richly colored vestments imbuing the Soma Host, which was placed on an altar, with prana through hand gestures, incense, incantations and prayer. The ceremony was very similar to the old Catholic Mass. Woops! I’m revealing way too much.

          These Brazilians are making a noble effort but we are a long way off before the real Soma Ceremony gets restored. We need to get rid of yahweh first.


      • Robert Barricklow on February 13, 2013 at 8:09 pm

        Enlightening Elm.
        Psychedelics & mankind go wwaaayyyy back.
        They are an essential part of our being.
        The homosexual aspect was there, and is still present. But, it appears to be as tool, for those in the hands of power; not a abberation of power itself.

      • Frankie Calcutta on February 13, 2013 at 8:48 pm

        So the smart money would be on the Ratzinger’s departure as being part of the Satanic/masonic/illuminati/luciferian centuries old plan. A man named Peter as the next Pope would give much credence to this.

        The other possibility is a German (Russian?) coup inside the Vatican– driving out a notorious bankster lackey. Some of the Italian banking scandals may give evidence to this along with Ratzinger’s track record.

        What about the possibility that this is a conspiracy of the Holy driving the wicked from the Vatican?

        The Vatican alien disclosure stuff becomes much more interesting now and will probably come into play after the new Pope is installed

  15. romanmel on February 11, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    I seem to detect a bit of arrogance in the outright rejection of discourse merely because the author of a book “is an evangical”. I would think truth can be found in all well researched literature.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on February 11, 2013 at 2:44 pm

      No no arrogance Mel. I merely mean to make it CLEAR, from Mr. Downunder ET’s comment that though Mr Horn and I reach the same conclusion, that I do NOT share, and will NEVER share, ANY evangelical approach to modern events, or theology, or history. It’s not the CONCLUSION that counts, it’s the order of questions, and how one gets there. I am not, and will never be, and will ALWAYS publicly and STRONGLY dissociate myself from, ANY appearance of dispensationalism or evangelicalism. If that appears to be arrogance, I am sorry. But you must understand how DEEPLY that system of theology affects those of us who think that it is deepest deception. If the tone offended you, for that I apologize, but I do not shrink from passionate statement on this score. Mr Horn and I are NOT on the same page, never were, and never will be, and THIS is what I wish to make very clear.

    • romanmel on February 11, 2013 at 3:06 pm

      Thanks,Dr Farrell for explaining you possition…I now understand that yur reaction was not arrogance but concern with accuracy.

  16. DownunderET on February 11, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    I suggest people read Tom Horn’ book “Petrus Romanus”, it is very well researched and in light of what’s just happened, Tom Horn had it nailed.

    Can I also suggest that you go to Red Ice Radio and listen/download Tom Horn’ interview where he discusses the book and it ramifications.

    This is huge news by any standard, the Vatican is a slow train wreck and their dirty laundry is being aired BIG TIME.

    Dr. Farrell has the same opinion as Tom Horn, that if the new pope does chose Peter as his papal name, then the game is afoot.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on February 11, 2013 at 12:48 pm

      For reasons of my own, I MUST warn people that Mr. Horn is an evangelical… and that I do NOT endorse his book nor his “approach”

      • Don B on February 11, 2013 at 1:16 pm

        Ditto on that Dr. Farrell.


    • DaphneO on February 11, 2013 at 5:47 pm

      I have the book, and like ETdownunder I think it has a lot of facts. However, as I am also totally against fundamentalism in any form (being raised in this environment and thankfully moving away) I know the book is biased.

      I have a very interesting book, quite old, written by a woman who looks at all the popes from the early 20th century, leading to the second Vatican Council. I’ve hunted all over and can’t find it. But from memory she felt the freemasons were somehow involved, but didn’t really make a huge case for that. She came from an orthodox Catholic stand.

      Another book called “The Last Pope: The Decline and Fall of the Church of Rome” by John Hogue has a much less “evangelical” approach and sees the last pope as the end of the corruption within the church and the beginning of a better world.

      His dedication is to:
      “To the Blessed One beyond all dogmas and Mafias of the soul.”

      I like that.

      • Joseph P. Farrell on February 11, 2013 at 5:56 pm

        I like that too Daphne

      • DaphneO on February 11, 2013 at 7:29 pm

        I hunted out the book I was referring to. It is called “The Undermining” and it is authored by Mary Ball Martinez. (Looked up Amazon and a used book sells for $99.95 up to $148.99!!!).

        Excellent book, and here is what a reader whose “Customer Reviews” I used quite often in my search, had to say about it:

        “By Michael Tozer
        Format:Unknown Binding
        This sadly suppressed book is one of the most important I have ever read. Herein, Mary Ball Martinez advances the controverial, though well founded, theory that the betrayal of Vatican II was not the beginning of the revolution against traditionalism but the culmination of decades of revolutionary activity. Martinez proves her thesis well by exploring the careers of Popes Benedict XV, Pius XI and XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, and John Paul I and II. Her narrative ends in the nineties before the Pontificate of Benedict XVI. But, most interestingly, she had already identified Ratzinger as being a part of the plot to revolutionize the Church. No wonder he was so well accepted by the Masonic powers that be.

        Is there hope for a revitalized Church to emerge in the future? Of course, there is! In this important book, Ms. Martinez seems to put a great deal of faith in the samizdat work of the Society of Saint Pius X. And that faith is, we would judge, probably well placed. But there is certainly hope as well for the sincere Christian in the rise of Orthodoxy from the ashes of judeo-communist domination. In any case, this is a terribly important book that we would strongly recommend to all sincere Christians who cling to great hope for this fallen world. God bless.”

      • Joseph P. Farrell on February 11, 2013 at 7:33 pm

        Daphe…that’s the tip of the iceberg…. if all the dots were connected, even the Roman traditionalists, with their own penchant for conspirology, would be stunned.

        • DaphneO on February 11, 2013 at 7:59 pm

          Dr Farrell, I hope that one day you can teach us about this. I have dug up so many books in my search for truth, but your knowledge is simply far greater than mine. Which is why I’m here… 🙂 So again, thank you!

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