GIANT FINGERS AND THE GENETIC QUEST FOR YETI/SASQUATCH
There's a bit of serious fun going on lately, concerning giants and genetics. Most of you are probably aware that the internet is rife with stories and pictures of the discovery and/or suppression of the find of humanoid giant skeletal remains. I have referred to these stories myself on this website. Well, there's a bit of fun, and a bit of seriousness, on both subjects going around lately. First, the "fun" courtesy of Mr. V.T., who found it and shared it with me:
O.K....we are all skeptical, not the least of which because with today's techniques and makeup artists, such a thing would be relatively easy to fabricate and photograph, and then conveniently disappear before a potential hoax was discovered. But there is a serious point in that possibility as well, and it's worth considering. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that the pictured finger, and its purported dimensions, were real. Then why would it be "disappeared"? Simple: it would be even less welcome than a hoax, for the simple reason that it would be corroborative of all those ancient legends and traditions -- from North and Meso-American Indians to the Old Testament - about "giants" and the wars with them. It would raise those inconvenient questions about human history and origins that the carefully developed paleontological, anthropological, and evolutionary memes - that standard history we learned in school, would not be adequately equipped to address. So the only way to test between a hoax and "reality" would be DNA... and that brings us to the serious side.
Now, I have mentioned here on some occasions that I have long suspected that the genome project may have, as one of its hidden goals, the identification of various markers that might tend to substantiate, or deny, those ancient texts and their legends and stories of genetically engineered human beings (that's us, folks). Indeed, it does seem that, with the aid of sophisticated algorithms, one of its preoccupations has been to explain the migrations and large genetic "families" and how they all got to be where they are now. Put those two preoccupations together and one might also say they might be looking for genetic cousins to humanity. Perhaps. Maybe.
Interestingly enough, however, it seems world-renowned Oxford geneticist Bryan Sykes is heading a project to do more or less that, namely, to test the alleged DNA remains of a Yeti for - get this - the Oxford-Lausanne Collateral Hominid Project, a project which makes no bones about what it is about:
"The Oxford-Lausanne Collateral Hominid Project invites institutions and individuals with collections of organic material from formally un-described species, or ‘cryptids’ to submit details of the samples they hold, and then on request submit the samples themselves, particularly hair shafts, for rigorous genetic analysis. The results will then be published in peer-reviewed scientific journals."
You can read the whole article here:
Wolfson geneticist launches project to examine ‘Yeti’ DNA Wolfson geneticist launches project to examine ‘Yeti’ DNA
Of course, there is as much a chance that evidence for these "un-described species" will not be forthcoming. Yet, the very fact of the existence of such a project at least might indicate that those researchers who have followed the subject over the years have at least made enough of a case that there has to be such a project in the first case.
But don't hold your breath... it will be a while, I suspect, before we hear anything about genetic research and those ancient myths...
See you on the flip side.
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I first heard about the idea that the bigfoot phenomenon is somehow related to the ET/UFO phenomenon from “Ancient Aliens – Aliens and Bigfoot”
As usual, though i have doubts about such proposition i did not reject such idea right away simply because it doesn’t fit my paradigm, in which case i simply never thought about such possibility.
Nevertheless i was intrigued by this idea, especially the idea that “bigfoots” around the world are using extensive underground cavern systems that somehow involve “advanced intelligence”, which in the dictionary of AA theorists, AKA “ET”.
(@27:35-27:50 is a supposed map of world underground cavern systems)
Interestingly, I recall a particular episode from the “X-Files” called “Jose Chung’s From Outer Space”, a creature who descended from an UFO claiming to be “guardian” from “inner earth”, a creature looks like the “sasquatch”
So, a possible scenario developed: bigfoot -> underground carvens -> inner earth -> advanced civilization -> “UFO/ET” (i.e. advanced science and technologies). But, could this model really work?
It seems the script writers for “Sanctuary” think so. Interestingly, Dr. Helen Magnus’s gang includes an “abnormal”(as mysterious creatures are referred in “Sanctuary”) called “bigfoot”
Later, we find out many “abnormal species” including “bigfoot” have something to do with “Praxis”, an advanced subterranean civilization referred to as “hollow earth” which is older than surface human cultures.
To get there, Dr. Helen Magnus followed her father’s hints, first she tried the entrance in Mongolia without success, then finally found the way to “Praxis” via an ancient entrance somewhere on the Himalayas.
But “Praxis” really has a sophiscated underground cavern system interconnected with advanced high speed transport systems
Instead of simply dismissing it as “crazy thoughts” from AA theorists and Science fiction scripts originated in the West, i tried to test the model with Chinese version of “bigfoot”, known as “the wildman of Shennongjia”
To test the model:
the first thing i need is the supposed existence of “bigfoot”, in the case of “Chinese bigfoot”, the record of these creatures goes back more than two thousand years.
The earliest report is from Chu period, as Shennongjia is in the Hubei province which was once the kingdom of Chu 2500 years ago.
So is there any records about this particular area of China that could point to the possible existence of underground cavern system leading to possible advanced subterranean civilization?
In the “Bo Wu Zhi” (encyclopedia in short story style by Zhang Hua), written by a 3rd century Jin dynasty offical and author.
Among many “crazy stories” from “Bo Wu Zhi” is the recount of a man from the Chu kingdom, around 5 century BC.
According to “Bo Wu Zhi”, the man was collecting herbs on the mountains where he wandered into a cave, suddenly without warning, a sensation came to him, as if he was moving a great distance in an instance, whereafter he suddenly
arrived at a place where he saw “many tall buildings”. There he was greeted by two “female celestials” with beauty unlike that of mortals. They treated him with food, drink and even music. Then the man went back to his world the way he came, only to find out no one in his village recognize him anymore because apparently three hundred years has passed as he found out upon meeting with his descendants in the village.
The thing is, it’s not just a 3rd century book recounting a 800 years old story. There is actually a Chinese idiom which describing a person finds him/herself in a place/situation that’s completely unexpected but pleasant, which is “there is another world inside the cave”. More to this theme is the Daoist tradition of recounting enlightened Daoist masters “cultivating themselves inside a cave” where the notion “a day inside the cave is a thousand year in the world” also came to become a Chinese phrase.
It seems, what “Bo Wu Zhi” recounted is not just a lone story, but something that has much more impact on the Chinese culture particularly on Daoism.
“Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”.
Henry, thanks for this information.
Cave exploring is becoming more difficult. Many caves have been declared off-limits in America.
In the Appalachians cave exploring is not allowed, with the excuse being given that they are trying to protect some wildlife that nests there.
OK… Or they don’t want people to find the underground bases and tunnel systems that the secret government now supposedly has all through those mountains.
If Sasquatch has been the master of these caves for centuries, then the makers of these underground bases, would have had to come to terms with him.
This could be another reason why the government is not interested in the Sasquatch truth getting out. If we verify Sasquatch, the next step is to find out where he lives. That takes us underground. The secret government doesn’t want us going underground.
I listened to Dr Ketchim on C2C with George Knapp (is it Knapp?) and she basically came straight out and said that the specimens she had were definitely hominid and that they also contained human characteristics.
Although that little piece from Oxford is dated at May 2012, Ketchum has been working on this for some years now and I cannot believe for one micro-second that her work would have gone un-noticed by someone of Sykes’s ilk.
The question in my mind is this – is he taking this up in an attempt to rebuke her findings so that Darwinists the world over can breathe a huge sigh of relief, or has he actually seen some samples of Dr Ketchums work and he wants to actually validate it officially?? Sykes is after all a C2C’er lol.
As I said to someone else regarding all this – if he sees what she is claiming to see then I hope he’s got the balls to stand up in front of his peers and say –
“DARWIN WAS WRONG – WE WERE WRONG”..
Wouldn’t that be something to watch on the nightly news 🙂
Don’t hold your breath 🙂
pathological skeptics? or pathological believers ? how does a short guy kick the big guys ass ? maybe throws sand in his eyes.couldn’t this be how disinformation works? it finally comes to a point where chicken little and the crying wolf have zero credibility.the only acceptable reality would have to be slammed right in the faces of both sets of neurosis. it used to be a bit simpler when 2+2=4 – now it equals = 22 IMO.
I’ve read several places of late about this “evolutionary meme”. i’am familiar with most of these memes (i.e., the carbon climate change). That mankind has been “genetically engineered” – is in line with my thinking; specifically in a “language gene”(looks to be the most obvious). But is there an overall “evolutionary meme”?
Are there any good books on this?
I agree totally with marcos toledo and enki-nike-
but let’s hope Bryan Sykes will eventually (if he isn’t already) work in sync with Ketchum-
I’ve posted it before but will post it again ( or is “Larry in Germany” getting too “pushy”?): David Paulides’ dual-volumn book(s) “Missing 411” is a ‘must’ if anyone can for one second entertain the concept “the world is not what we’ve been told it is”- in the meantime Paulides’ books are easily available (start with Amazon or your prefered book seller)-
hope all are well- many regards-
Well there where no giants and Yeti,Sasquatch, Orang Pendic crew have the work cut out for them. Real scientist are now looking into these stories and evidence I am looking forward to final proof these creatures exist leaving all these nay sayers with shit on their faces.
The Huffington Post reported on Dr Melba Ketchum’s Sasquatch sequencing project on January 2:
I am sure Bryan Sykes would not like to be upended by a virtually unknown veterinarian from Texas!
One of the “memes” (I hope I’m using this term correctly) that we as a culture have fallen prey to is this idea of Hoaxing. This idea was implanted in us via our Media to get us to doubt any information that we come across that challenges the sanctioned version of reality. So many things get deflected from real scrutiny by the Hoax allegation, that one would think that there are a large number of sociopathic idlers around the world with nothing better to do, and with apparently lots of finances and technical expertise, who put together all these hoaxes, many of which don’t even reach a large audience.
I think it’s time to drop the Hoax concept from our lexicon of first responses, when anomalous data surfaces on the internet. In fact, the Hoax response should be a “diagnosis of exclusion”, if you will; i.e. only drop the the little H word when we have hard evidence for it, not as a knee-jerk first response. We don’t have to play the cowardly game that the Media has taught us.
If we review all the issues where serious hoaxing has been alleged (I’m not talking about one-off 3 minute videos on YouTube), we will find that it is the Oligarchy itself that mounted the hoax, all of which were attempts to discredit, i.e. were disinformation. Only the state intelligence services have the expertise, expense account, and the time to mount these “hoaxes”. But they are not true hoaxes, they are disinfo.
Let’s all drop the H word. To use it is an admission that your responses have been conditioned by Media/Intel.