MONITORING THE MEMES OF PROMOTED POPULAR CULTURE: SYNCHRONICITY AND ...
It's not often I blog about an email that I get. I blog all the time about the increasing volume of articles people send me, but rarely, if ever, have I blogged about an email. But this one is a fun one, if not a provocative subject, so here we go.
Recently I received this email from a regular reader here, but I won't reveal who or even what his or her initials are. He or she will recognize his or her email anyway (and gawd, don't you just HATE this political correctness and how it has mangled the English language? So hereinafter, I will use the old patriarchal pars pro toto usage of he/him/his to mean a generic "someone" who could be either male or female, and will forgo that monstrosity "s/he" that now uglifies the language!) Anyway, here's the email in question:
"Joseph," Do you monitor, keep an eye on, popular culture? Its stories, its messages, the general vibe?"Stories, games, toys.....if an ‘in the know’ group wanted to convey information, new and radical information, might they do it by introducing these concepts as a ‘game’? From what I have seen, it’s part of the Play Book, introduce a product as a toy first, or a concept as a game."There is a video game series out there called ‘Assassins Creed’. It tells a story, starting in Renaissance Italy of a struggle for power and control. A ‘war’ that is both hidden and been going on for a long time. The goal: retrieval of Ancient High Tech items, for use in controlling mankind (of course)"It’s not Shakespeare, but give it a look, especially the first minute or so..."
Now to say the least, I find the idea of a secret group of assassins founded in Renaissance Italy (one can only presume Genoa, Padua, Florence, or, the most likely, Venice), out to uncover ancient lost technology more than a little interesting. Coincidentally, there is another game out there, set far in the future, that is quite popular, called Halo, where humans make contact with aliens who call themselves interestingly enough, "the Covenant," are there are memes galore in the Halo universe of some sort of ancient and forgotten connection between the aliens and humans.
Coincidence? I doubt it. At least it warrants the idea of "synchronicity," perhaps fiction picking up on memes already abroad in human culture.
But then when one "goes to the movies" it gets downright bizarre, as I have pointed out in some of my books. For example, in The Giza Death Star Deployed I observed the strange similarity of George Lucas's universe, with "death stars" blowing up planets, with Anaken Skywalker a vague analogue of Annunaki, with jedi knights and the force and Egyptian djed pillars and the Egyptian version of the force, "ma'at". All of that, of course, could be written off to Lucas' having professionally consulted the comparative mythologist Joseph Campbell. Well and good, but how did one explain the uncanny resemblance of his "Death star" to the then unphotographed "moon" of Saturn, Iapetus, which so closely resembles Lucas' version that one has to wonder, not what and when did he know it, but how? And what is it doing orbiting a planet in our solar system named for the Greek god Chronos, and his role in the ancient "cosmic war" of the Titans?
From there it only gets more bizarre, for as I pointed out in The SS Brotherhood of the Bell, Hollywood seems to have picked up on the idea of secret space programs long before it became a popular theme of alternative research. Capricorn One made a whole movie of a faked mission to Mars, and faked telemetry data, which James Bond in Diamonds are Forever was dealing with reclusive billionaire hermits in Las Vegas (played by the late country singer Jimmy Dean) who is kidnapped by an independent rogue organization (SPECTRE) headed suspiciously by a German and employing a very German laser scientist to put satellites into orbit to destroy American and Russian missiles.
Then, in Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations I pointed out that the Die Hard series of movies with Bruce Willis seemed to mirror and presage reality in a very odd way, right from the first movie, where German "terrorists" are trying to steal hundreds of millions of dollars of bearer bonds chucked away in the vault of a Japanese corporation... well... if you've been following the bearer bonds scandals, you don't even have to stop and think about that one. But let's not forget Die Hard with a Vengeance, where Germans are once again out to steal, this time, gold from the US Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The movies anticipated reality by some years, in both cases.
More synchronicity? Or is it possibly deeper? Well, when one adds it all up, I suspect something deeper. As I've pointed out before, the use of mass media and even fictional mass media for the engineering of perceptions and the spreading of memes in popular culture was very early on appreciated, both by Nazi Germany and by the Allies, and most certainly by the financial elites in the West. So is it possible?
No. It isn't possible. It is probable.
See you on the flip side.
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I was watching Diamonds Are Forever not long ago and after watching the scene with the fake Moon set it occurred to me that one good reason to fake a Moon landing would be to pull off a classic bait and switch where the taxpayers and most of the government think they are paying for a manned mission to the Moon but in actuality they are just funding the secret projects of the Breakaway Civilization and in return they get a Moon landing dramatization. Easy money for the Breakaway Civilization. Spend a few million faking a Moon landing and pocket the billions the taxpayers dished out for the real thing. Now that is what I call clever grand larceny.
But one of the capacities and very probable accomplishments of a Breakaway Civilization would be landing on the moon, probably not using rocket tech.
So all this “the moon landing was faked and the monies were diverted to a Breakaway Civilization” just suggests a different method of landing the moon. Not that the landings didn’t happen.
The only thing ostensibly stolen would be the method of landing–not rockets but antigravity. It’s similar to memes about shortages of materials–while developed alchemy and over unity energy systems remain hidden. Then “Diamonds Are Forever” becomes part of a very sophisticated disclosure project, but it’s not exactly saying the moon landing didn’t happen.
What do you make of this?
You can’t discuss elite memes in video games without addressing the Mass Effect sci-fi trilogy by BioWare. In Mass Effect, humanity 150 years from now discovers ancient alien artifacts (left by a race known throughout the galaxy as the Protheans, who mysteriously disappeared thousands of years ago) on Mars. The technological information these artifacts contain forward humanity’s technology by centuries, enabling interstellar travel and interspecies contact.
Then it turns out the Protheans themselves took their technology from a previous civilization that mysteriously disappeared! And so did they… and so on… because ultimately, an ultra-powerful race of machine-organic hybrids called the Reapers are responsible for “seeding” the galaxy with their technology, so that organic species can evolve according to how the Reapers see fit. And when a “cycle” of organic evolution reaches satisfactory levels, the Reapers descend and “harvest” the advanced organic species (in the case of present-day Mass Effect, this means humanity as well as all other sentient lifeforms), blending them all into Reaper form. Then the cycle begins again!
Motivations for it all? Apparently, the Reapers are a solution concocted by a super-ancient artificial intelligence (known simply as the Intelligence) meant to preserve organic life at all costs. According to the Intelligence (who may be a lying SOB, according to certain interpretations of the trilogy’s final events), organics are destined to create synthetics, and the synthetics are destined to rebel against their creators, annihilating organic life. The Intelligence was itself created by an ultra-powerful, super-ancient organic race called the Leviathans, who viewed themselves as the zenith of evolution, and viewed and controlled other organic species as their “thrall-races.” But then the Intelligence kinda’ backfired and turned the Leviathans into the first Reaper–and all subsequent Reapers are constructed in Leviathan shape.
At the end of the game, Commander Shepard (you, the player, the main character of the trilogy, etc.) speaks with the Intelligence, and has the opportunity to choose one of four options: (1) Control: become the Intelligence himself, in order to gain control of the Reapers; (2) Synthesis: merge Shepard’s DNA with the Intelligence’s code, and via SPACE MAGIC, merge organics and synthetics throughout the galaxy (the transhumanist ending par excellence–even the Intelligence calls this “the final evolution of all life”); (3) Destruction: destroy the Intelligence and the Reapers, though also somehow destroying all synthetic “life” (including the purely synthetic race called the Geth, who have demonstrated in the second and third games their desire to be left alone and to leave organic species to thrive in their own ways); and (4) Refusal: refuse all these options, leaving this cycle to the Reapers, while a future cycle, benefiting from *this* cycle’s stored information about the Reapers, finally ends the cycles, though no details are ever provided.
So: ancient technology, cyclical genocide, transhumanism, psychological domination (e.g., the Reapers can influence/enslave organic minds via a process known as “Indoctrination,” utilizing ultrasonic and infrasonic waves and other subtle means)–Mass Effect is chock-full of esoterica. Check it out: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_Wiki
Add to that ‘Superman’ (birth name Kal ‘El’) who comes from Crypton (the destroyed planet where the asteroid belt is) and owing to its larger size and gravity is endowed with a dense physical make up and enormous strength and speed in earths lower gravitational field (original superman couldn’t fly).
Add to that the occultic inverted pentagon on his chest, the conspicuous ‘S’ (snake?), his hidden identity, his superior virtue and you get the classic origins of the occult brotherhood (sons of Cain?) or the Gods.
Certainly fits in with the good Dr’s book, the Cosmic War.
To the Star Wars observations, I would add that Yoda appears to be remarkably similar to the Slavonic Josephus’s physical description of Jesus (Yoda/Yahoshua?) as described in Knight & Lomas’s “The Hiram Key.” If Lucas were a Mason (which also explains sale to Disney), Star Wars could be interpreted as being a metaphor for Masonic traditions while respecting Masonic oaths of secrecy. One might further infer that the entire Star Wars saga was a metaphor for the Nazi International – Masonic battle for control of the breakaway industrial-security complex. A warning that respected secrecy oaths. Per 9/11 and Jachin/Boaz, it would appear as if the Masons lost. Or it could just be cool movies.
“but how did one explain the uncanny resemblance of his “Death star” to the then unphotographed “moon” of Saturn, Iapetus, which so closely resembles Lucas’ version that one has to wonder, not what and when did he know it, but how?”
The resemblance is not that remarkable. Iapetus just has a crater that is very large compared to its size. When you think about it, a circle on a sphere is one of the most common features that we see in planetary astronomy.
when you combine it with the planet-wide miles-high ridge exactly on the equator it starts to become remarkable though.
I agree, but the one thing that nobody has mentioned is the small metal balls discovered in a dig in South Africa.
One of these small has “exactly” the same three rings around the circumference as Iaptus, AND the hexangonal dip/crator that Iaptus has.
These metal balls are on display in a Museum in South Africa, but also mentioned and pictured in Cremo & Thompson book “Forbidden Archeology”.
Now what are the chances of this, I’d say millions to one. Somebody in South Africa knew what Iaptus looked like a few million years ago.
For apparent anomalies like this, all I can say is, check out:
Check out their “picture of the day” (TPOD) articles.
To ignore the possibilities of electricity on a planetary scale is to make mysteries out of the entirety of existence.
almost forgot about those:P high strangeness indeed
While I can claim no absolute proof, I still say (this is opinion of course) that the ‘electric universe” folks have a perfectly good explanation for that ridge.
Search for “Iapetus” at http://www.thunderbolts.info
Or, look through their “picture of the day” (TPOD) listings. They have talked about Iapetus several times over the last few years.
At the very least, the EU ideas must be refuted before being rejected. And it needs to be said, if you cannot refute them (as in, demonstrate that they cannot possibly be right), why dismiss them??
One should phone the writers for a friendly interview.
I will start with a comic book story from the late 1950’s that tell the story of these archaeologist who find sculpture parts that look like they came from famous NYC landmarks. Like the torch hand of the statue of liberty and a foot from one of the lions from front door of the main branch of the NYC public library in Manhattan which they find a book that tells they story of a pandemic that exterminate a race of insect people millions of years ago. And there the the famous science in the novel from1898 The Time Machine that describe a future time our sun as a red giant. I remember my science books depicting our sun growing cooler as it aged but not expanding in size in that was in the late 1960’s when I graduated from high school so where did as I have wrote before H.G.Wells get that idea for his novel. I could tell other stories from comic and science fiction stories like these examples but L think these are enough to make my point what to know true history read fiction boks.
I like your post. People think they have to go to a graduate school to get more training in Psychology. Not so? All they might need to do is read Novels and learn or like you suggested “Read Fiction?”
In fact further formal education in that field might be the equivalent of putting on a set of blinders?
I like this phrase Farrell used in an interview on the Byte Show about the different perspectives governing a Runaway Civilization – “the slew of Analytical + Interpretative possibilities.” ( I think no one perspective is adequate in explaining or describing such phenomenon. )
Logical plausibility isn’t the answer to all questions but it is a good place to start when one is dealing with such a complex theme as indoctrination through popular media (games, etc.).
Here is something I read from a fictional(?) book called the “The Sigma Protocol by Robert Ludlum (pg.204-5). It’s about invisible networks but I interpret it as about unknown seeds planted in our minds.
It’s as follows:
“Anna raised an eyebrow. “It sounds a little frightening.”
A vein pulsed on Barlett’s temple. “It’s a little fright-
ening, and perhaps more than a little. The nature of these
networks, after all, is that they are invisible to those who
are not part of them—invisible even to some who are. And
they also have a tendency to survive the individuals they
initially comprise. You could say they take on a life of their
own. And they can have powerful effects on the organi-
zations that they invade.” he adjusted his French cuffs
again. “I talked of spiders” webs. There’s a curious parasitic
wasp, very tiny, of the genus Hymenoepimecis— a clever
little creature that stings a spider into temporary paralysis,
and lays its eggs in the spider’s abdomen. Soon the spider
goes back to work, as if nothing happened, even as the
larvae grow inside him, nourished on its fluids. Then, on
the night that the larvae will molt and kill the spider, they
chemically induce it to change its behavior. On this night,
the spider is induced to spin a cocoon web, useless to the
spider but necessary for the larva. As soon as the spider
has finished its work, the larva consume the spider and
hang the pupal cocoon in the special web. It’s quite ex-
traordinary, really, the parasite’s fine-grained manipulation
of the host’s behavior. But it’s nothing compared to what
we humans can devise. That’s the sort of thing I think
about Ms. Navarro. Who’s inside of ‘us?” What forces might
be manipulating the apparatus of civic governance into
building a web that will serve their own purposes? When
will the parasite decide to consume the host?”
To finish my post — Marcos, they certainly don’t teach this in Psycho-ops, Ops -Psychology classes!
Mr. de Gagne,
Superb post, Sir. Well done.
I second Sophia.
Seems to me that once an idea or meme is “out there”. multiple people will have the same idea. So you will see the same scientific discoveries being done soon after each other in different parts of the world for instance,
Also, if you wouldve put 10 people in a room with the assignment to pick a suitable target for a 9/11-like operation, I bet at least 4 out of the 10 would pick the twin towers, just because it is an obvious choice.
The ancient alien/tech meme is omni-present, there have been popular books written on it for at least half a century, so the meme has pervaded the collective unconscious by now, so it’ll pop up everywhere. Especially since the writers for movies and series are more likely to have read a lot, to be into sci-fi, mysteries etc.
I think its more how the collective unconscious works, than conspiracy.
The point is that a thorough understanding of “how the (collective) unconscious works” is but square one, a cornerstone for the orchestration of ANY conspiracy.
The point is that this is a real concept, a real field of research, of real expertise and mastery, that real people study (most significantly in real secrecy, of course).
This stuff is real, and it currently defines our “reality.”
Ultimately, this is the whole “art as a mimic of life” vs. “life as a mimic of art” dichotomy up for debate, yet again.
At this point, (at ANY point, in my estimation) it is at worst willfully ignorant, and at best epistemologically irresponsible to dismiss out of hand the notion that the “collective unconscious” is being purposefully and mechanistically manipulated.
If one is honestly and truthfully assessing long-term cultural trajectory (i.e. past(s), present(s) and future(s)), one cannot honestly and truthfully rule out the possibility—in the contexts of social engineering, Apocalypse Theater, etc.—of an… (un)intelligent design.
So now “they” are masters at the conscious manipulation of the collective unconscious? I think you give “them” way too much credit. “they” are not that smart. Also I doubt it can actually be done, more likely the CU manipulates you, than vice versa.
Seems to me you’d be inviting a hell of a lot of stress and aggravation trying to manipulate the CU in order to achieve some egotistical goal. If “they” are trying this, I wish them the best of luck.
“They” will need it.
I said nothing about “they” or “them.”
I pointed out that you’re dismissing as fantasy the observable, acknowledged reality that is social engineering, simply because it “seems” unlikely.
Just suppose the collective unconscious, does not communicate with the conscious; and, that you have two operating systems, but one must pass the ‘go'[unconscious gate]/ before being “understood”. So, to subvert this process; is no 1, 2, 3 by the numbers operation.
Of course, that depends on one’s definition of “the unconscious collective”.
If there is a market place of free ideas it exist at places like this site, coffee shops, bars, parks; where people gather to speak their minds. The question is just how “free” our those minds.
The slop their feeding the masses through fakestrem media streams is enrmous. It it flavor with sinister ice-cold intent. In fact it brings to mins a Howard Phillips Lovecraft quote:
“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its content. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of a black infinity, and it was not meant thsat we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in uts own direction, have hithherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissassociated knowledge will open such terrifying vistas of reality and our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safetly of a new dark age.
A coming dark age, sponsored by those writing
such scripts for us top swallow:
Hook, Line & Sinker.
I’ll pass; even though, it’s not football season.
If you haven’t already, check out Colin Wilson’s THE MIND PARASITES, a novel from the late 1960’s that many here would probably enjoy immensely (good ‘ole HP figures prominently).
This is the greatest of all conspiracy memes !
No, I haven’t. Too many books on a never ending list. But I’ll keep those mind parasites in min__; er, in a special jar, nereby.
Someday, when I’am feeling invincible;
I give it a go.
I’am already aliceinwonderlandmad, but…
Still passing on that “peace & safety” issue.
Although, I’am keeping my flashlight handy.
Greatest of all time?
Are you any relation to PT. Barnum or Ripely?
Robert – I wonder if these sic quote Lovecraft(ian) ‘terrifying vistas’ can be induced Electronically?
I know Insurance Salespersons would be the first to buy such devices, ha, ha! ( maybe in the same cafes where all this so-called ‘free speech” is occurring?)
It is “deep” paul de gagne. Even Peter Dale Scott who supposedly coined Deep State, Deep Politics, ect.; just scracthed the surface. Deception is endemic. Our “unconscious” prioritizes our conscious.
Your previous post of the wasp hints at the deep possibilities. In previous posts I’ve suggested that there exists in language, someting simular to your “wasp” aspect, something sinister, being initiated deep, in the past at the beginning of “our” language. And it is DEEP.
Being trapped in an elevator, with an insurance salesman, is Woody Allen’s nightmare
You mention language as if it were some ‘Trojan Horse.’ It may just be? It is a fascination topic in and of itself. Anthropological linguistics mires me into deep, deep, deep (your words for it) muck every time I turn to look, speculating on its origins?
I think back to a somewhat discredited, no – I should say a general acceptance from that crowd of a watered-down version of the Whorf-Sapir Hypothesis. Perhaps the experts were too quick to judge or write off Language’s effect on Cultures because it reminds them of how ‘meaning’ once associated with words is being disconnected/lost in all this double, triple talk where plain old buzz words are suppose to signify what once took a paragraph to write about.
I remember all the noise decades ago about French Canadians’ refusal to learn English because they believed something in their own culture gets lost when learning this language. I know some Japanese people when they hear English being spoken say it sounds like the speakers’ are swearing? I also remember hearing some history professor telling the class the word Barbarian originated from the conceited Ancient Greeks who thought these strange outside people’s language sounded like BAR-BAR babble, ha, ha! (maybe they were BAb-bab-a-Lonians?)
I get on a bus nowadays and hear such foul language it makes me wonder “Are they practicing some form of Magical Spiteful Cursing calling down something not so nice upon all of us riding the bus?”(maybe I too am as conceited as the Greeks, ha, ha!)
I liked Lenny Bruce’s idea of influencing people by swearing but this is on a whole different level! Lost Civility!
Anyway, what’s the current price of rice in China and also Let Me Borrow Your FLASHLIGHT for a couple of days. It’s dark down here, ha,ha!
Precisely paul de gagne.
It is a “Trojan Horse’. The languge is mutidisciplined, performing many functions in ‘realtime’. We are aware of some consciously. The unconscious is aware of another form and works to synchronize the ‘two’ as one with a little help from some ‘sinister insects'[going with your wasp example]. The “DEEP” part herein is that the conscious was not designed for self-examination, but for survival and reproduction. What happened some 250,000-450,000 thousand years ago was a “lnguage seed” was implanted into the New Human, it’s function was multipurposed. One took the form of a language ontogenty(or sequence of development of our minds from this single seed, so that some immensely complex strutures would be built without anyone in charge. Two was to communicate instructions interdeminsionally in realtime. If you and I were conversing across from each other, the unconscoius communication wouuld take precident over our conscious conversation. The unconscious controlling the conscious. Yo may ask, For What Purpose? Ultimately it comes down to survival[far too valuable to be entrusted to caprious will]. If you know what your looking for, you can actually see it in action. But everyone has an inattentional blindness, a cognitive illusion as opposed to a visual one, an illusion not of the eyes but of the mind.
Remember the conscious mind is more of an observer after the fact, while behavior itself is usually unconsciouly initiated.
And also people are unconscious of the deception that went into constructing the narrative they now accept as true.
So this then is a baby step into the DEEP LANGUAGE that you intuited as a ‘Trojan Horse”
And a good analogy it is paul de gagne.
I like your grasp of the matter. Consciousness as an adaptation or survival mechanism. Interesting? I guess the “Observer” can never observe the Observer/itself for it would have to stand outside in another frame, so on ad infinite-ad-nausium.
It’s kind of like a ‘dog chasing its own tail.” Yeah Robert, you have a good grasp of your own tail, ha, ha! (in a mythical or evolutionary scheme of things – that’s why we have HANDS!)
All this brings to my devious mind a book about George Bataille’s philosophy titled – “The Unfinished System of Non-Knowledge.” Firstly, it’s about an unfinished ‘System” which probably will never be completed or finished. Secondly, it’s about “Non-Knowledge or the “Negation” of Knowledge. This is as far as I got with the book but occasionally I go back and keep trying. The author is merciful and does give the reader a ‘heads up” by mentioning this kind of philosophical outlook wont gather many followers because, more than likely, it is probably doomed from the start.
I guess if we want to enter the ‘big time’ of Thought we begin with questions or problems that can or will or have no answers. Sort of a mental gymnastics of the mind or brain for obsessives, ha, ha!
All this reminds me of a problem I imagine some people have trying to sic – “GRASP’ the object Mister Farrell is speaking about in that ‘Runaway Civilization’ interview on the Byte channel. I guess talking about IMPONDERALES bring about a certain amount of confusion? (It’s expected so it doesn’t always annoy me.)
We can speak about things we cannot speak about but only in a partial way. With enough faith the fragments will come or join or unify together into something that makes complete sense.
Maybe, and I say maybe because no-one who is honest is promising us a rose garden of understanding when discussing MYSTERIES!
***Have a good Saturn day this Saterday = TODAY!
Yes paul de gagne
like the masstryoshka nesting dools, one deception lying within another, each holding a deeper decetion.
In reading your reply it brought to my mind a good book for you to pick up:
The Folly of Fools: Deceit & Self-Deception In Human Life by Robert Trivers.
As always enjoy your insights & the humor that’s woven therein.
And I think I will take your advice and have a good Saturn, playing with rings within rings. Why I could even run rings around Saturn, chasing my tail, paul de gagne.
World of Warcraft (along with the Diablo series, by Blizzard Entertainment) and Skyrim (part of The Elder Scrolls saga, by Bethesda Softworks), some of the most successful “fantasy/RP” game franchises in recent years, have—existing as a foundational, historical premise within their respective realities—strong thematic elements referencing an ancient, unfathomably advanced race/civilization that apparently suffered a mysterious fall into obscurity, only to have been recently rediscovered by scholars and academia, as it were.
What I find interesting is that, in both cases, WoW and Skyrim, this ancient and technologically-advanced race is known, in one way or another, as “dwarves”.
*Cue “mythological” references to Mesoamerican pyramids having been engineered overnight by “dwarves” using some sort of sonic technology (off the top of my head: Hancock, Fingerprints of The Gods).
*Cue similar “mythological” references to ancient peoples and lost (sonic?) technologies, the world over.
Oh, and the Diablo series, by the bye, while not strictly similar to my other two examples, is still worthy of mention if we’re dissecting memes, as the plot relies on an entirely transparent, even straightforward eschatological analog: Heroic-Genetic-Descendant-of-the-Nephilim-fights-the-evils-of-Hell-on-Earth-and-in-Heaven.
It seems to me that quite a mountain could (and perhaps should) be made of this molehill, what with these persistent and peculiar memes and myriad popcultural references to small, advanced beings of various sorts (ancient dwarves to modern greys); “sonic” or “vocal” engineering (i.e. pyramid physics, or “Giza Death Star” physics, if you prefer); and… so forth, and so on… if you catch my drift.
There’s always episode number one of the XFiles spin off, “The Lone Gunmen”, first broadcast March 2001. (The producers have explicitly denied any foreknowledge of the jets being diverted in to the WTC Towers.)
And of course in “Die Hard 4.0”, the thieves attempt to steal monies from that huge US debt holder, the Social Security Administration.