This one was shared with me by Mr. J.T., and it's worth passing along, since we have commented on the (current) theory that modern man and Neanderthal man may have coexisted at some point. Indeed, the presence in many humans of a small percentage of Neanderthal DNA suggested to some that they coexisted and may have interbred occasionally. But there's a new study out that suggests Neanderthal man may have died out before the arrival of modern man:

Study suggests Neanderthals died out earlier

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. henry on February 23, 2013 at 4:02 am

    The Neanderthals were featured rather intriguingly in Graham Hancock’s work “Entangled – The Eater of souls”. The story inspired by the Ayahuasca spirit seems to imply that somehow the fate of the modern human world is entwined with the Neanderthals.

    “The evil one” named Sulpa is trying to wipe out and then literally devour the souls of the Neanderthals in order to allow himself to manifest in the 21st century to achieve his ultimate goal. An American girl named Leoni must travel back to ancient Spain in “out of body” form to help a girl named Ria to stop Sulpa from wiping out the Neanderthals.

    If the Neanderthals are extinct yet the Illumani system is crumbling rather than succeeding, i can’t help but wonder about these:
    Do the Neanderthals have souls?
    If by any chance the Neanderthals have actually escaped Sulpa’s scheme, where is their refuge now?

    • HAL838 on February 23, 2013 at 5:13 pm

      I read most of that and came to the
      conclusion that Hancock is a good
      non-fiction writer and the reason I
      say “most.”
      I own the book, so I’ll probably finish it…
      some day.

  2. Milton Zentmyer on February 21, 2013 at 10:56 am


    Your statement rings so true.

    Elm, we are surrounded on all sides in every walk of life by these “people” …

  3. QuietRiot on February 19, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Combine this with the Sasquatch story and the semi-paleo-ancient starts to look a whole lot more interesting. It would be interesting to consider the Neanders as reported in the context of Genesis, the Sumerian tablets, and the Greek Myths…

    Maybe we need new names:

    Neanderscene 455-25?
    Yeticene Unclear
    Yahwehcene… etc. (I hope it was a long time ago and he can’t come back).
    Vedicene (3.25M-10k)

    Primary Cremocene: 2.8-3.0B
    Secondary Cremocene 65M
    Tertiary Cremocene 8M-3M
    Quarternary Cremocene 3M-455k
    Quinenary Cremocene 455-today?

    It only makes sense that cremo and thompson get the credit.

    Any takers?

    Things just get curiouser and curiouser. I’m so fed up with the academic mind control that punishes scholarship. The whole load of the gatekeepers should be force fed donkey burgers and cast adrift in a small boat.

    • Elm on February 19, 2013 at 8:07 pm

      One of the most interesting & compelling earth histories, has been that of Emmanuel Velikovsky, in his books, Worlds In Collision, Earth in Upheaval & Ages In Chaos.

      Of particular interest is, “Mankind In Amnesia,” published posthumously by Velikovsky’s daughter Elisheva in 2010. Velikovsky Sr. passed over in 1979.

      A Few Exerpts…

      “…A feeling persists that though mental processes are physiological – and therefore in the last analysis physical and chemical – there are screens in man himself that hide from him a larger part of the house he calls soul, this being the sum of all mind’s activities, past & present, and all perception received or inherited, and that may or may not transcend the barriers of time, a metaphysical entity in itself.”

      “…It can be argued that all of the leading & distinctive features of Aristotle’s system served, in one way or another, to sooth Aristotle’s deep-seated fear of planetary catastrophes. His denial of what had happened in the past went to such extremes that he created a system in which interplanetary near-collisions not only did not happen, but could not possibly happen.”

      Note: The control grid, which includes a multidimensional & multi-faceted manipulation & editing, is far more sophisticated than even, & maybe even especially, the “educated” might beable to think to imagine.

      “…For Aristotle’s cosmology is simply an elaborate denial or repression of the past catastrophes; his philosophy of tragedy, on the other hand, provide him with a way in which he can resist those catastrophes, safely this time, and with himself in full control (both the denial or repression & the visiting would be at an unconscious level).”

      “…Aristotle was born barely three centuries after the last of the interplanetary near-collisions, and the human species in general had not yet succeeded in submerging its recollections of those catastrophes into collective unconsciousness.”

      “…Three forces kept science from progressing and brought about the Dark Ages: the invasion of the hordes coming from the east and north, the influence of the Church, which imposed dogmas and fettered the human spirit; and the scientific dogma that petrified itself in a thousand-year-long worship of Aristotle – through all the years of the Middle Ages, with their crusades, Scholasticism and Black Death.”

      “…The great derailment of this planet on its travels put a deep-seated fear into man’s soul; and as the deepest traumas are relegated to oblivion in the soul of a single individual, so also is the case with humankind.”

      Velikovsky writes… “The name Nicolas-Antoine Boulanger is not found in most encyclopedias and is know only to a few scholars. He was a contemporary of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Voltaire & Dierot, illustrious names in the history of French letters. He lived only thirty-seven years, from 1722 to 1759. I came across the name very late in my research, actually in 1963, and read in his works a few years later. I found that in some aspects he was the precursor of Freud and Jung left unsolved. Namely, he understood that much of the behavior of the human species, together with all the heritage of religious rites and much of the political structure of his own & other ages, were engendered in cataclysmic experiences of the past, in the Deluge (or deluges, of which there could have been more than one).”

      “…When Darwin destroyed the sense of absolute separateness of man and animal, he undermined belief in the soul’s being separate from and surviving the body. Thus Darwin deflated man’s pride in his origin and uniqueness. But there was another aspect of Darwin’s theory, without which the opposition to his teaching would have been much more intense & prolonged. This was a feeling of security about the peaceful history of our planet, the abode of man – no catastrophic interruptions in all the eons of the past & none in the future. For that assurance, man was ready to part with the idea of his uniqueness and agree to be counted as one of the animal kingdom. This did not (however) require his giving up his status as number one, free to exploit and even consume any of his animal brethren (including man), regardless of their position on the ladder of evolution.”

      This is much the way in which the select globalists view the unselect balance of mankind today. Reminds one of the earlier version of Time Machine. Velikovsky writes, “The exploiter cared less for the survival of the human animal than for the survival of a field animal: the latter was a property of the owner, but the human animal was easily replaced (especially today with mechanization & technology) with no loss to the exploiter.” The Land”Lord’s” view all labor as a “cost” or liability to wealth & capital, rather than as an asset in & of its own right, of a production of wealth. Today, mankind is being submerged beneath a Pathocratic Corporate Feudalism, by-en-large predicated upon & organized around the Malthusian Pretext.

      For the rest of the story, arrange to obtain a copy of Velikovsky’s book. Velikovsky concludes, “But the human race now has in its hands such awesome means of destruction that unless it comes to understand its unconscious urge to relive the most terrifying experiences of its past, it may stray dangerously close to the precipice, risking near-self-destruction, and possibly biological degeneration as well.” See also, “phy-si-cian: Medicine and the Unsuspected Battle for Human Freedom,” by Richard Leviton.

      • Elm on February 19, 2013 at 8:24 pm

        So Sorry… That’s “Immanuel” Velikovsky.

        For a little levity, take time out & watch Just Visiting, starring Jean Reno.
        And for a banking metaphor, pay special attention to the scene in which Andre turns the lights on & off, exclaiming “night – day, night – day” etc.

      • Robert Barricklow on February 19, 2013 at 9:18 pm

        Going to get this.
        My reading list is going: To infinity & beyond.
        Thanks for the tip.

  4. johnycomelately on February 19, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    Given the off world hypothesis posited by the good Dr. there should be several humanoid races inhabiting the earth, the Gods themselves (bloodliners, royalty, Jews?), created slave races and mixed indigenous humans (Neanderthals?).

    Given the occult belief in an age of ascension (prophecied by Hermes) and Rudolph Steiner’s insider knowledge that the western races will suffer a massive DNA downshift, it makes sense that mixed Neanderthal bloodlines (due to their natural synchronicity with the earth grid) will be the ones partaking in the evolutionary jump.

    So the search for Neanderthals, Bigfoot and Giants may be a DNA salvage mission for the elites to enhance their own DNA.

    Highly speculative but fun nonetheless.

    • amrta on February 20, 2013 at 1:15 pm

      “So the search for Neanderthals, Bigfoot and Giants may be a DNA salvage mission for the elites to enhance their own DNA.”

      Yeah, that’s a good thought.

      in reference to the slave races you allude to, according to some experts on the Ancient Astronaut/gods theory, the ET progenitors of the human species were actually the ones who gave us racism. They are the ones who proscribed miscegenation.

      The idea here is that each race of human was the result of separate genetic engineering by distinct groups of ETs. They didn’t want their handiwork or their gene pool to get polluted.

    • Elm on February 20, 2013 at 7:05 pm

      The self-appointed & self-perpetuating elites select their associates & underlings on the basis of revealed pathology, i.e., An ability to suspend normal morality to do what needs to be done. Case & point is the personal background of Barak Obama. See, The Tragic Family History of Barak Obama – http://www.tomatobubble.com/presidentpsycho.html

      Also see “The Damned,” a study in Nazi pathology starring Dirk Bogart.

      Further, it has been suggested Charles Rothschild’s suicide in 1923 when he was 46 years old, was actually a “culling” of the Rothschild gene poole, this due to Charles’ “discordant” humanitarian propensities. Indeed, one cannot be a humanitarian, other than by the fraud of a manufactured appearance, & rise in the ranks of a feudalistic pathocracy.

      One of the most tragic & insidious frauds ever perpetrated upon the American people specifically & mankind generally, was that of a Rockefeller financed Alfred Kinsey. Presented to the American people as just your every day middle American family man engaged in honest scientific research, Kinsey was in fact a closet homosexist who was enabled to foist his sexual pathologies upon an unsuspecting & naive generation, all facilitated by a Rockefeller controlled media, & designed to provide science as a pretext & an end run around the common law based American constitution.

      From Kinsey onward, science has been hyjacked & imposed as a measure of law, displacing the constitution as a basis of American criminal law as it applies to the Model Penal Code, along with sex crimes like rape & child sexual molestation. Indeed, the normalization of the psychopathology referred to by Thomas Sheridan in Puzzling People, has proceeded largely unabated in the corridors of education, law, & legislation, whereby today’s youth are being indoctrinated into thinking human beings are actually “born” to bugger their neighbor & to be buggered by them.

      Language & perceived meanings of words have been inverted, perverted & exploited to cast a “spell” in this regard, words like “gay” for instance implying carefree & light-hearted. To the contrary, if Nazi style fascism rises in America as it did in Germany & is today in America, it will be through the smoke screen & sexual psyop of the “gay rights” movement. That the “gay rights” movement is presented as a social, rather than recognized as a movement for political power is a major obfuscation. The APA and its DSM’s have been adulterated for this purpose.

      Also view… Dr. Judith Reisman Creates Storm Over Sex Ed in Croatia
      As well as… Reisman in Amsterdam

  5. LSM on February 18, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    this article by Frank Jordans (whoever he or may not be) including his sources are obviously not aware of the incredible Cremo/Thompson research-

    as marcos stated: “They never stop coming up with these stories”- and we should expect increasingly more IF the Ketchum/Sykes research gains more traction-

    article is from website called Verizon- here in Germany Verizon is a telephone connection service- me thinks the article phoned the wrong number

  6. marcos toledo on February 18, 2013 at 9:16 am

    The Scientific establishment lying through their teeth as usual the Neanderthals have been from their discovery the nigger you don’t what in to be part of humanity ancestors.They never stop coming up with these stories face it people Neanderthals and who knows who else is in our family get over it.Sorry for the word but it’s true.

    • Elm on February 19, 2013 at 8:28 pm

      To the contrary, the so-called scientific establishment doesn’t “lie,” How can one “lie,” when they don’t even understand the meaning of the word? Only the living can even conceive of a lie. To the psychopath, “truth” is whatever they need it to be at any given moment.

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