CYPRUS: CLASH OF OLIGARCHIES AND GEOPOLITICS: A PAPAL POSTSCRIPT, OR, ...
I'll bet you thought, after yesterday's blog, that we were done with Cyprus, didn't you?
Well, we're not, nor are we quite done with Pope Francis I(Jorge Maria Cardinal Bergoglio of Buenos Aires). And as you might gather from the rather lengthy title of this blog, these are thoughts about someone else's thoughts about Francis.
In this case, the thoughts of someone else are the thoughts of researcher and historian Dr Webster Griffin Tarpley, and they come, believe it or not, from Iranian Press TV:
Prior to the election of Jorge Maria Cardinal Bergoglio as Francis I, I noted that one thing to watch about the new pope would be precisely his stance on the Vatican Bank, which was, you'll recall, recently embroiled in yet more scandals involving money laundering charges, and some murky dealings with American banks. As readers of my Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations will recall, this is a relationship that goes back to at least 1948, when the Institute for Religious Works (The Vatican Bank's name), was used as a money laundering conduit for CIA funds entering Italy to ensure a Communist defeat at the polls in that year's election.
In this context, I think Dr. Tarpley's analysis is well worth pondering carefully, both for what it says, and also for some cautionary points. We may consider the primary core of Tarpley's analysis to be this rather succinct thesis statement:
"Bergoglio is also strongly identified with Catholic social doctrine, which has traditionally stressed a preferential option in favor of the needs of the poor, rather than a concern with the privileges of the rich, combined with a rejection of laissez-faire, neoliberal, or monetarist economics in favor of social solidarity. "
In other words, Bergoglio is not going to toe the bankster line of the Anglo-American oligarchy nor their compliant Eurocrat lackeys and lap-poodles (think Van Rompuy and such ilk here). This comes in the context of possible German long-term goals of attempting to reposition itself vis-a-vis Russia and the East, as we speculated in our previous blogs on Cyprus, and in the context of German calls for repatriation of its gold from London, Paris, and New York, a move that in my opinion can be read in no other way than as a signal of lack of confidence in the Western financial system, and therefore ipso facto as a lack of confidence in the EU, born as it was as a scheme of those very same oligarchs in London and New York.
In that regard, I would contend that the election of Benedict XVI (Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger) of Germany, and now of Francis I from Argentina, was and is no accident: it means nothing less than that the cardinals of the conclave are reading the geopolitical tea leaves very closely, and very subtly, and drawing similar conclusions as we have drawn: the Anglo-American oligarchs are on the defensive even as their armies are projected into more and more regions of the world to "support democracy" or "combat terrorism". As I have indicated in a number of recent interviews on The Byte Show and in my News and Views, I believe that the conclave's decision itself was profoundly motivated by geopolitical and cultural considerations. Europe is no longer the center of Catholicism; the Third World is. So the Cardinals chose a candidate that (1) could represent that fact and represent the Third World; (2) could also represent the European culture and tradition of the Roman church, and in this respect, Argentina is a strong candidate with its very prominent old European "look" and feel, not to mention its rich Spanish, Italian, and German communities (and you are permitted to read between the lines there); (3) a pope that would represent a doctrine or position that was not that mercantilist position of the western financial oiligarchy. We might even, with some stretching of the categories here, view the position as a kind of "papal Peronism," a "third way" mediating between the mercantilism of the West and the Libertarianism of its Western opposition, and the left wing radicalism of statist socialism.
In this context, we may fully expect that Francis will make rather interesting overtures to the Orthodox East, and to Russia in particular, and I rather suspect these will be of a nature to leave theological wags in both churches scratching their heads.
In that respect, Tarpley makes some very important observations, and I reproduce them here because they need to be emphasized, for the "American" delegation to the conclave apparently made a tremendous effort to gain the papacy and to thereby subborn it to the agenda of those New York and London financial oligarchs:
"This papal election was also remarkable for what did not occur. Elements of the US Catholic hierarchy, evidently backed by forces within the State Department and the Obama White House, had made no secret of their desire to take control of the Vatican and employ it henceforth as an abject tool of US imperial policy. The New York Times and Washington Post contributed articles seeking to highlight the many advantages which they claimed would derive from electing the first American pope. The delegation of US cardinals, second in numbers only to the Italians, attempted to act as a political machine in Rome on the eve of the conclave, giving daily press conferences in an attempt to stampede the 115 members of the College of Cardinals into electing an American. "
And there's this:
"Since the 1943 Anglo-American invasion of Italy during the time of Pius XII, the Vatican has continuously found itself under pressure to toe the London-Washington imperial line. Some popes were able to assert a significant degree of independence, notably Paul VI Montini, whose reign marked the high point of influence within the church by veterans of the wartime European resistance against fascism. More recently, the Polish Pope John Paul II sought to condemn the aggression committed by the Bush administration, but was always pulled in the other direction by the Polish tendency to look to Washington as a counterweight against Russia. Benedict XVI turned out to be far weaker, reflecting the postwar subordination of Germany to the United States. He was always on the defensive because he had taken part in German air defense during World War II.
"The anti-imperialist tradition is strong in Argentina
"But now we have a pope whose national origin will tend to impel him towards independence from Washington. Among all the nations in Latin America, Argentina is surely second to none in its tradition of national sovereignty and resistance to imperialism, a tradition which has persisted through many changes of political regime. According to some reports, 10 Downing Street in London has already witnessed apoplectic scenes by Prime Minister David Cameron due to the fact that Pope Francis I Bergoglio, as the Argentinean that he is, regards the Malvinas (or Falkland) Islands as an integral part of Argentina, regardless of any referendum staged there by the British among their colonizers."
Our only quibble with Tarpley, a minor one to be sure, is that while we would both agree that Germany is for the moment compliant to Washington, as I have attempted to argue in numerous blogs, the gold repatriation issue signals something far different (and let's not forget Chancellorin Merkel's little visit to Beijing, where she took nearly her entire cabinet in tow). (I would also point out, contra Tarpley, that Giovanni Cardinal Montini, later Pope Paul VI, during his tenure in the Vatican Secretariat of State during World War Two and afterward, was intimately involved in helping to run the Vatican Ratlines out of Europe to aid escaping Nazis, Fascists, Rexists, and Ustashi).
What really leaped from the page of Tarpley's analysis however, was this short statement:
"He condemned the policies that were leaving the Argentine people 'strangled by the anonymous and perverse mechanisms of a speculative economy.'"
For "anonymous and perverse mechanisms of a speculative economy" read derivatives and credit default swaps. In other words, as far as Francis I is concerned, the plunder party is over, folks.
I view all of this, of course, as a mixed bag. It is, on the one hand, a good thing that the Vatican might have elected a man who will be his own man and not the plaything of the Anglo-American elite. If so, then his election is truly a milestone, for it marks the beginning of yet another world power's turn from that western oligarchy, a process that will begun by this pontificate, but certainly not ended by it.
But let us always, always remember, that the idea espoused by Mr. Tarpley, namely that the papacy's understanding of itself exists in a kind of Dante-esque Ghibelline world view of the separation of spiritual and temporal power, is simply not the history of that institution, nor its historical and oft-reiterated claims at all. In short, to become a pope, you must simply be a Guelph. Let us not forget that it was the Jesuit order that supported the definition of papal power and infallibility at Vatican One. To be sure, the Roman Catholic church has done an enormous amount of good in the world. We must remember that, always. We must also always remember, that in the name of its doctrine and power, it also roasted people alive, and that the core of those claims remains intact and, in that case, unrepentant. In a world where the growing trend to fundamentalisms and militant religious persecution of those "outside the fold" appears to be on the rise, it is a lesson of history we must remember.
There's another lesson of history we also need to remember. Most researchers who have studied the matter now tend to agree that the attempted assassination of Pope John-Paul I was a message from that Western elite to a papacy that looked like it might become increasingly "independent" of western interests. Francis I is therefore one to watch, not only for what he might or might not do (and we would only echo Tarpley's warning to the Vatican to oppose the UN's kooky Agenda 21 as the anti-human bankster BS that it is), but also for what those oligarchs might try to do to him. They didn't hesitate from attempting to kill a pope before, and won't again. The problem, however, for them is that Francis does represent a change in long-term alignment and policy, and therefore, the Cardinalate will only elect a similar candidate. (And thus, our previous warnings: if Francis represents such a long-term policy reorientation, watch carefully who he appoints as Cardinals, and watch what he does not only with respect to Russia, but with respect to China).
See you on the flip side.
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Probably just pulling at straws but,
I’ve never heard a RC Priest ever mention the Eastern Orthodox Church on a Sunday but today it was announced that the Eastern Orthodox Church is also Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. New orders to begin planting the seed for a future reconciliation?
also, the first verse of the new prayer card for Pope Francis states:
“The Lord preserve him and give him life, and make him blessed upon the Earth, and deliver him not to the will of his enemies.”
I don’t recall ever hearing this kind of language in regard to a Pope.
as well, During the Habemus Papum, Pope Francis offered an unprecedented prayer to himself. Sounds to me like a man who has some difficult work to do.
I think Bergoglio is the last hoorah for the conservative faction in the Vatican, the fact that they had to go to the Jesuits just shows how perilously weak their position is.
The conservatives are losing their grip as the Liberal block (European core and the Third World) gains strength. Remeber Albino Luciani was murdered because of his socialist leanings.
The longer the minority old guard at the top try to hold on to power the greater the schism will become. Bergoglio will try to perform a balancing act as only a wily Jesuit can but the disconnect between the hierarchy and the laity is too far gone.
This is a very interesting interview. Key points are:
1. Francis has been made Pope because the Vatican intends to move to Argentina.
2. However, they need to move all their wealth through the same rat lines used for the Nazis in WW11 to Argentina first.
3. Once it has all been moved they will stage a false flag and blow the Vatican up.
Which brings up the Library :
“Vatican engineers had noticed the library’s floor was sagging. Even after moving most of the books, building inspectors were not convinced it was safe, so the Vatican closed the library after giving scholars only a few months’ notice.
A bit of an uproar and a mad rush on requesting copies of books and manuscripts ensued, along with widespread speculation on how long the three-year restructuring and restoration would really last.”
Have the real documents already been moved to another continent?
Here is the interview : Pope Francis & Vatican False Flag Op? with Eduardo Elias (Argentina)
Seen Albert on interview with Loren Moret on Fukushima. He is very good. this one with the Vatican was Outstanding. Lots of high octan speculation that has the ring of truth to it. Thanks for posting this Gail. i’am glad i had the time to listen to it.
Also worth listening to is this 2010 Alex Jones interview with Dr. John Coleman, author of “The Committee of 300.” http://www.infowars.com/21-goals-of-the-illuminati-and-the-committee-of-300/
I’ve heard him on this at red-ice. Very persuasive. But, just like Alex Jones, there’s a platform that looks to be built by – “others” purposed, for DEEPer unknown factors. I’ve copied this video for later viewing. Thanks again, for your posts.
I think the key point of the article:
“After September, when a scholar visits the library, he or she will have a magnetic badge. The security system will track the scholar’s movements within the library — setting off an alarm if the person enters a restricted area — and will simultaneously keep track of which book is with which scholar.
The system makes it much more difficult for someone to sneak into an off-limits room or to sneak a book out of the library.
But of more importance on a day-to-day basis, Msgr. Pasini said, is that installing the tags gave the Vatican Library a chance to double-check and correct its catalogue and that, from now on, the system will keep track of the location of each and every book.”
Under the Papacy of Emily Katz’ son, Pope John Paul II, unfettered access to restricted areas was given to patrons of suspect motives and backgrounds. There are rumors not only of theft of very valuable and ancient manuscripts but in one case, several talmudic “scholars” were alleged to have destroyed several books with acid. I’m sure the Vatican library is a treasure trove of information unknown to the rest of humanity. Spell books, ancient history texts, confiscated demon conjuring manuscripts, and most likely Inquisition confessions that some banking families would not want the world to know.
One of Pope Benedict’s first acts was to shut down access to these restricted areas immediately barring these malevolent intruders entrance to the great library once and for all. God bless him.
I’m currently taking up a collection to send Dr. Farrell to Rome and get him access to these restricted areas once they are re-opened to reputable scholars. I would like to get him over there before the contents of the library are shipped off to Argentina or Rome is hit with a dirty bomb as a cover for a Vatican gold heist and all the library books are contaminated with radiation.
Frankie, that might not be nesessary. The Vatican is putting documents on line, the only problem with this is which ones will they NOT put on line?
I do believe that all documents should be available to everyone. And I am a HUGE Aaron Swaartz fan. I also do not think that knowledge should be restricted to “reputable scholars.” The Dead Sea Scrolls saga comes to mind, documents that should have been translated and published and available to everyone over FIFTY years ago….. !!
Here is one example. The Dead Sea Scrolls text of Isaiah dating to +- 200 B.C., is finally available on line. ……. and guess what? Lucifer is not in it! The text is talking about the fall of a king from his throne and has nothing to do with Satan, Lucifer or even Prometheus, who seems to have had his DNA aplices into Lucifer these days making them one and the same thing. In fact Lucifer is no where in the Bible. However, a large chunk of Western society is screaming Boogie Man ! At Lucifer.
The original texts were written in Aramaic. The term “Lucifer” is not Hebrew, it is not even Jewish, it is Roman. Lucifer was the name given to the morning star, the planet Venus, because quite simply, this planet is the “Light Bringer”and heralds the coming of the dawn. Absolutely nothing Satanic about that. Such misconceptions have created a whole industry and a “horror movie”for people to chew their brains on.
In Revelation Jesus is referred to as the morning star, because he heralds the light of “God.” being the sun. It is a symbolic analogy.
It is time all texts were made available to everyone. And putting them on line is the best way to go, where no dust, no moth, no acid can destroy them. And nobody will need tags or a degree to read them 🙂
I enjoy your comments and the useful information you provide. It always gives much food for thought.
I agree with you for the most part– knowledge should be accessible to all. The problem is: there are some powerful spell books floating around that should be sequestered and never be allowed for mass perusal. In the wrong hand magic rituals are very dangerous and can be empowering to the wrong people as we are witnessing presently. The black sorcerers seem to rule the day. In India and Tibet, their ancient magic manuals are kept under tight wraps and are burned before they are allowed to get in the wrong hands as we saw happened when the Chinese invaded Tibet.
Regarding Venus and lucifer, Venus was always an interesting planet to me in that its higher forces of love and devotion to Consciousness Itself are what subdues demons and thus why Venus is referred to as the guru of the demons, but Venus’s lower forces of materialism and sensual pleasure are what the demons use to subdue us. While considered to be a benevolent planet, Venus’ lower energy has certainly been used to manipulate humanity for a long time causing us to seek pleasure and happiness outwardly which of course is a trap which always leads to more suffering and allows us to be easily manipulated as well. Our hedonistic, materialistic culture is really a testament to the lower forces of Venus at work. Maybe Lucifer is the deified composite of these lower forces which serves as the locus of these black wizards propitiation? And possibly others, decent people, see Lucifer as the bringer of light (beyond the obvious astronomical reason) because Lucifer was created a long time ago to serve as a composite of the higher forces of the planet Venus which so many of the ancient cultures such as the Mayans venerated?
All in all, I’ve always been curious about the worship of Lucifer and Satan, who most likely is a deified composite of the lower forces of Saturn. These lower Saturnian forces, like death, disease, ugliness and perversity are also an object of worship by some nefarious people and they have even managed to foster this Saturn worship on some unwitting people such as the muslims who have been tricked into venerating a symbolic representation of Saturn in the form of a giant black cube at the center of Mecca. I think over time Saturn and Lucifer have become interchangeable by ignorant, would- be occultists.
Moses came up with a cure for all that non sense. You can find it in the ten commandments. 🙂
Well, millions of Italians would be very happy to see the Vatican move to Argentina (perhaps the Argentines a little less so…)! But in any case, since Ratzinger’s resignation, and in the current crisis phase, Vatican interference in Italian politics seems to be diminishing, despite the efforts of the Italian “Curial” cardinals and the Episcopal Conference, long used to announcing their views on how they thought the Italians should vote.
One last thing regarding Tarpley’s mention of the Catholic “Social Doctrine”. It was prolulgated by Pope Leo XIII at the end of the 19th century; while full of good intentions (and, to be fair, contributed to the spreading of the cooperative movement in Italy) there is another side of the coin: at the very same time, the Vatican hierarchy, which had been dispossessed of the former Papal States in 1870 for the unification of Italy, was “regrouping” especially in the financial field, going into the financial and real estate business. As a result of this (and of course with the subseqeunt financial settlement paid to the Vatican by Mussolini under the 1929 Treaty) we have the current problems involved in a bank with extraterritorial (i.e. offshore) privileges.
But what is often forgotten is that today, in 2013, an estimated 25% of ALL real estate property in Rome is owned by “Vatican Inc.”, i.e. the central Vatican administration together with a plethora of Church entities, religious orders, the Opus Dei and its universities and clinics etc.
We’ll see if, and when, there are any “Franciscan” developments in this respect.
Archbishop Chrysostomos II, the powerful head of the Orthodox church in Cyprus recommended his country prepare to abandon the euro as talks on an EU bailout came down to the wire. He said, “The euro cannot last,” Chrysostomos told Realnews, a Greek newspaper. “I’m not saying that it will crumble tomorrow, but with the brains that they have in Brussels, it is certain that it will not last in the long term, and the best is to think about how to escape it. It’s not easy, but we should devote as much time to this as was spent on entering the eurozone.”
Gotta love the statement, “…but with the brains that they have in Brussels, it is certain that it will not last in the long term.”
I’m re-thinking my former position on Putin.
How is a voluntary UN program to save resources bankster inspired?
The pope did too much to help the fascists in power in Argentina in the 1970s, in other words he’s already highly compromised. And is not real like to stand up for the poor to real power.
This new “white knight” seems to have a shady past, but considering he is a Jesuit, then maybe he “does” have an agenda which will be forthcoming when he gets into top gear.
His decisions will be watched carefully by the Anglo-American elites, and I think Dr. Farrell is right when he says they have already killed a pope and would do it again to achieve their goals.
Maybe the Vatican is running scared, I mean they are losing “members” in great numbers and would love to “break into” Russia and China to sign up some new members.
The power of the Vatican has been huge, however, we now have the new kids on the block who are not going to get “brainwashed” in Catholic schools like I experienced. These new kids are too busy with their mobile phones and constantly surfing to be drawn into this school of thieves and child molesters.
“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled by the entrails of the last priest” ——- Denis Diderot
“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled by the entrails of the last priest” ——- Denis Diderot
One of the greatest quotes of all time.
It is worth noting like I.G.Farben and allopathy, the Romanist Corporate System & Persona views itself as a Global Cartel in all matters whether temporal or spiritual. “Catholic” means “universal.”
The stated goal of the Roman Corporate Cartel is to destroy or absorb competing systems along with their gods, like Buddhism for instance, that inculcates internal vs external controls which provide for maximum freedom & enlightenment. Rome is Babylonian Illuminist Luciferic, not Biblical based enlightenment. Illumination from an occulted perspective, undermines & destroys unlightenment – i.e., internal light and life. Illumination is light in appearance only, and not in substance.
The Luciferic Principle is the art or craft of concealing darkness & death in light, thus causing a people to fall into the embrace of their own destroyer(s). Hollywood and modern techniques of advertizing are rife with Illuminism. This is why it’s called “central casting,” as in a casting of spells.
Romanism is an externally applied authoritarian system that manipulates and controls through guilt and fear rather than teaching & encouraging through understanding & wisdom. Catholicism by-en-large does not teach Biblical scripture, rather it indoctrinates children with an approved catechism along with memes of fictional & censored church dogma, along with magical notions and views of history and science, these often ironically anathema & diametrically opposed to authentic Biblical ethical monotheism. What the Roman church has done in the name of God is hostile to both man & God.
Enjoy you ability to caste the darkness out – so to speak. Your insights are very keen. In a way, they seem to set one’s bearings straight, to direct ones journey on/into the momemt, instead of outward/toward the horizon/destination.
Is there some book you could recommend, that encompasses those observations made in the above post?
Not one book but many, some of which are…
Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation and Political Control, by Catholic intellectual E. Michael Jones. Basically, a formula on how to achieve an external political control & domination through a “liberation” of the libido bringing the subject(s) into bondage . See also the curse of the black magician Bilaam. Zoologist & insect taxidermist Alfred Kinsey, who was an admirer & follower of British born sex occultist Aleister Crowley, was the American agent & Rockefeller’s Bilaam in this. See, Kinsey: Crimes & Consequences; The Red Queen & The Grand Scheme, by Dr. Judith Reisman, who reports The Rockefeller Foundation funded Kinsey.
World’s in Collision, Earth In Upheaval & Ages In Chaos by Immanuel Velikovsky, who ties together as one, Venus, Lucifer/Lucinda, Ishtar, Isis, Athena & Minerva, as well as Venus as the morning & evening star. See also Minerva, prominently perched atop the DC Capital Building enrobed in her war regalia. This IS Minerva, because her sacred pet the owl symbolizing a submission of the Greek goddess Athena to Rome, lays beneath her carved into Washington DC street architecture. See also Bohemian Grove and a cremation of care, i.e., a ritual suspension of moral scruples & normal human affectations.
Genesis: The Creator, “Do not eat of the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good & evil, because the moment you do, you shall surely die.” Then the lie of the serpent through Eve (Lucinda), “surely you shall not die, but your eyes shall be opened (illuminated) and you will become as gods.” The Illuminati practice ritually what is forbidden Biblically, thus convincing themselves they are gods and above the common “herd.” Short message… Death is an outcome of Illumination.
At the behest of the Philistines, see a seduction of Samson by Delilah — His physical blinding & emasculation of his powers, then a regaining of higher vision in his physical blindness. My people perish from a lack of vision, not sight. We have many optometrists & too few visionaries. Vision is too often blurred & destroyed by sight. Man cannot live by sight alone, but through vision. This is why they target the male population & exploit the more visually powerful female sexual persona to do so. All porn is an occulted assault upon men.
What we see throughout history, is this paradox between sight & vision, man’s seduction by form over substance and vision’s loss which always preceedeth the fall — Pride preceedeth the fall. There is nothing new under the sun. Vision is the same as it always is.
I tend to agree with you but I think we need to take it a step farther:
“Illumination is light in appearance only, and not in substance”- exactly!-
we can only see what reflects visible light, right? (or so scientists say)- and Lucifer (according to writings) was the bearer of light, right?- so could it be that Lucifer (whoever/whatever that entity was), the bearer of light, obfuscated true enlightentment/light by reducing our visual/spiritual perceptions to only a fraction of what is really out there by being an entity that reduced our level of sight/insight to what is de-coded in our pea-brains as “visible light”?- just a thought- sort of ties into the concept of “the fall of man” thanks to the bearer of light who put us in the dark (I truly believe it’s that crazy)-
Actually LSM, we are not dealing with empirical science here, but [N]nothing. The Prime Mover is No Thing… nothing. Science only “sees” with the eyes and not with the soul, alluded to as the “third eye” in the East, which according to conventional science, does not “exist.” Just as sight is said to be only 10% physical, vision is the other 90%. So without vision, mankind loses 90% of his human capacity. This is why allopathic medicine is so reductionist. Because it only detects & treats the 10%.
No-Thing is greater than something, because what we see & experience as something, is a reduction of nothing. The entire universe is both of & within the Master Conceptualizer simultaneously. Time is relevent only to man & not the Conceiver, Who gives birth to His Own conceptions. There was no “big bang,” but a large contraction. The Prime Mover withdraws into Himself so as to permit the physical universe and mankind to exist. No physical man can exist in the Creator’s absolute Presence.
Lucifer, also identified by Velikovsky as Venus, is said to have emerged from the head of Jupiter. Remember, these were times when planets were awarded the status of gods and worshipped accordingly, thus the Temple of Jupiter and Minerva etc. But of course, the lesson of idolatry is, man erects idols to his passions, worships the creation rather than the Creator, & devolves as the idols he shapes, without eyes to see, ears to hear nor a mouth with which to speak.
You’ve probably heard of or even played at “Capture the Flag.” Well, in ancient times it was “Capture The God.” This is why Venus is presented by subsequent nations with various personas (Latin for “masks”). “Person” means Fiction or Entity, not man or human being, as in Legal “Person” both Corporate & Natural.
So built into creation is this dichotomy between substance & form of which Lucifer is the consumate example — Luminous in appearance but darkened in substance — like vampires, vessels emptied of light but still ultimately subject to the Light of Truth. Lucifer is “fallen” because “he” conceals darkness & death causing other to also fall. Those without vision embrace the spell of Lucifer’s luminous appearance, because it appears pleasing to the eye. “Lincoln: Vampire Hunter,” is an accurate metaphor for what Lincoln was really up against. See also, Babylon’s Banksters by Joseph Farrell.
Hey guys: I would suggest that “Lucifer” is as real as “Jehovah” or “Jesus.”
In other words, not real at all.
If anyone here is interested in a VERY good argument that Christianity is 100 percent fabricated from the ground up, get the book:
CAESAR’S MESSIAH by Joseph Atwill (second edition).
The evidence presented is undeniable. You are free to interpret the evidence differently than Atwill does, but I guarantee you that the evidence is startling.
While the TRUE origin of Christianity does not really affect most theories of “what is going on in the world right now” (such as the works of JPF), this book simply changes . . . something. The world is different.
I bought the Caesar’s Messiah DVD, $20, and yes he has done his homework.
But on a broader scale, if you want to read a book that REALLY exposes the origins of man, then THE book to read is…….
“Genesis of the Grail Kings” by Lawrence Gardner, he without a doubt, takes to religion and academia like no one else, I mean he just tears them to pieces.
This book is now in my top 3, along with “Babylon Bankster’s” and Jim Marrs “Rule by Secrecy”
The DVD is surprisingly good. I didn’t think they would be able to make a movie that was any good at all. But they did.
But the book is just much, much better, for obvious reasons: there is just way more material.
Atwill’s analysis of the famous “Testimonium flavianum” (one of the the references to Jesus in Josephus) is simply amazing. That chapter alone is worth the price of the book.
Just listening to an interview with Joseph Atwill re: Caesar’s Messiah…
An interesting perspective.
David McGowan also had an interesting perspective. He thought that John The Baptist was the Messiah; and Jesus, Rome’s man, was engineered to take his spot.
Lucifer is a composite of planetary & cosmological interactions with the planet earth as Venus. These destructive events in recorded history are referred to in Immanuel Velikovsky’s book Worlds In Collision.
Lucifer is “fallen,” because as a luminous personification of the comet Vesus, “he/she” wrought destruction in “her” intersection with the orbit planet earth 3,400 years ago encompassing a global destruction, at the same time as the Exodus. The origins of the “sacred cow” worshipping Brahmans can be fixed in the cosmological life of eliptical path of Venus prior to “her” stabilization in a circular solar orbit as a planet. According to Velikovsky, Venus did not exist as a planet in Babylonian cosmology.
As these were times when planetary bodies were given human form as gods, as in Jupiter, Venus/Ishtar/Isis/Minerva, etc., statues became projections of planetary powers adapted to human purposes. Idolatry is a worship of the creation & the prerogatives assigned thereto, rather than the Creator — of a worship of definable & measurable something rather than an invisble & non-containable No-Thing.
The priestly cult claimed to divine & act in accordance with a projection of the human passions or “divine” attributes assigned to the various gods. Thus Venus the Lucindic/Luciferic or luminous planet became an occulted machinations of Babylon which gave rise to the Venetian & today London Bankster cult, whose members exploited the contrast of the luminosity of Venus and the darkness & destruction “she” contained, as a working psychological mechanism of human manipulation, exploitation & control, wherein the “illuminated” appearance contains darkness, servitude & death — causing a people to embrace those things which appear to be enlightened, but to the contrary contain darkness & death — a consumate contradiction between substance & form to this day exploited by “central casting,” as in a casting of spells.
Both Madison Ave & Hollywood used the Luciferic Principle as an occult tool of engineering & manipulating human perception & desires. The Illuminati “sophisticate, meaning to adulterate, the entire political, social & cultural environment, using the Luciferic Principle grounded in recorded cosmological events. Through such means, the Illuminati, their proxies & minions, fabricate & maintain the “matrix.” The Illuminati seek to destroy & usurp enlightenment, meaning, they manuever to capitalize upon the light & bent it to their purposes. Fundamentally, Illuminati are spiritual vampires, appearing luminous but containing darkness. The people perish from a lack of higher vision & discernment, which is why the Illuminati strive to undermine & destroy the moral terrain which is the foundation to an enlightened people with vision in tact. Man must always remain congizant of the contradiction between substance & form.
aside from your always razor-honed analyses, Dr. Farrell, you once previously stated you were wondering how someone would “spin” the failed “Peter the Roman” prophecy- so here’s a “spin” for us all:
by posting this I do not mean to cast aspersions at Kerry Cassidy- am just trying to point out that this will probably be one of many emerging “spins” on this topic (deciphering Nostredamus correctly a là posting is about as easy and reliable as the ease of pulling one’s lower lip over one’s head) –
hope all are well- regards-
Rather than listen to that “source” with her “sources” I’d rather pull my lower lip over my head. 😉
‘Sale of key state assets into the private sector.’
This little phrase has cropped up within the troika ‘debt solutions’ proposed for Greece, Portugal, Italy, Spain, Ireland and now Cyprus.
To see what havoc nine little words can wreak and to see what’s in store for Europe it’s worth watching the Debt Crisis beta version as employed in Argentina:
— http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CzS6eHqtnQ —
Memoria del Saqueo by Fernando Solanas
Once again kamutef,
you’ve come up aces.
Thanks for the link!
I have been watching this film tonight, It is hearthbreaking to see the suffering of the people. But, what i learned,and it is important, that the common people had a understanding what was going on.
I think this kind of understanding is absent in most of Europe, maybe there is some kind of abrupt learning through those recent event. But, in the northern european countries, the lack of knowledge how the IMF works, people do not recognize that this kind of destiny can occur to them. Thanks to BSM, or bullshitmedia.
The plundering of nations have several patterns. Here, in Scandinavia ,some of the original state owned companies have been partly privatized; everyone can now have a ownership, a share, in STATOI, they said. And it is epidemic, even our local municipal banks had to be partly privitized. So, the usury shows the extreme (Argentina) and the modest forms (Norway)
But, we are not immune. Our Central Bank has allowed the privte banks to bring back our export of petrodollarsto into their accounts, and it has fueled a huge housing bubble; since 1995 to expand by 16 to 18 % pr year. It is totally insane what our Central Bank has allowed to happen. So, watch up, next to implode…..
I expect, what people in Cypros now experinces, will happen here, when the housing bubble burst, and the bondholders will be saved; nobody pay any attension that their saving in a bank account can possibly be confiscated while the bondholders will be honoured !00 % in an extreme situation. What we have learned the last week.
Indeed, BSM and propaganda keep the people blinkered until the critical moment, by which time it is too late, as in Cyprus; but there is still the example of Iceland as an alternative model.
“‘Sale of key state assets into the private sector.’
This little phrase has cropped up within the troika ‘debt solutions’ proposed for Greece, Portugal, Italy, Spain, Ireland and now Cyprus.”
And now DETROIT.
May God have mercy on their souls…
We have have at least possible two Papal assassination in the twentieth century John Paul 1 and Pius 11. The idea of the USA trying to gain control over the Vatican is ironic given the flack over JFK our first Catholic president beholding to the Papacy. But again the Papacy being in bed so to speak with the escaping Nazi’s and CIA one wonders. Only time will tell what Francis 1 legacy will be a great article non the less.
I had listened to Tarpley on this subject and am glad that your analysis added the necessary depth & focus; giving one a more precise picture of the deeper inner workings of the vatican, and the world reflected by those very moves.
There is a war going on below the surface of the perception managed “fantasy”, being currently staged globally by those powerfull syndicated media presstitute$.
I didn’t post the other day for I am down in my home-town visiting my dear older sister. Boy, is she really trying to fatten up this already overweight lad (ME) with great HOME COOKING! What a Life I am leading lately!
I read the above posts. It’s all very interesting, that is – the part about ‘Magic Influencing Politics’ is quite tempting but I shy away from that path tempting as it is?)
Quite frankly, I could give a rat’s a$$ about the pope. What interests me is this ‘perception management’ business! ( for those of you who not only remember but still can ‘feel’ — try looking at a picture of yourself when you were around 4 or five years old? (Yes, amazing isn’t! That person in the picture once was YOU but how much can you remember about him/her? Not much I am willing to bet?. Same goes for all this ‘the Pope is this, the Pope is that. Give a few years or even a few months and it will be some other this and that!)
It seems to me ‘mass society” and the stragglers’ outside(individuals) are sleepwalkers. It’s as if people wake-up for moments, get scared – panic like ‘sheeple’ then return to their dream or sleeping state. (no one seems to like the discomfort of Freedom so they build protective ‘body-armour” and can you blame them, I cant?)
It is my opinion (everyone has one , right like…) Until everybody comes to some consensus or agreement on just what Jung’s bringing up the idea of a “COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS’ means and entails than ‘lost it will be.” (perhaps everyone has but now we have millions of ideas about the CU which is just as intolerable.)
I constantly go back to square one —- Just what is a “MYTH?” And once we can get past that can we see it’s power operating in Perception Management. I believe a Myth isn’t just something ancient?
Back to it again. Just what the hell is a Myth? (I studied it for yrs! and still don’t know what it is?) I believe it could be an accurate appraisal of sic – REALITY given our limited faculties at the moment! (as if one day we will reach a limitless ‘Impossible!” (another myth —- So on and so forth!)
Have a good day ya-all and I like Robert reminding me — all this originated long, long ago? (I always been a little archaeologically BENT for I would prefer to be in some desert digging up the ‘artifacts’ from ancient ruins than sorting through PRESENT day ruins, ha, ha!
One more funny thing I found while I was shopping?
There was this black t-shirt with an ‘insulting comment” on it. You’ve seen the type before. Well, I usually don’t like them but this one was a beaut! It had a red line overlay like a hospital instrument that show pointed wavelengths with a slight gap in-between the ‘waves?” Underneath were the words == For a moment there I thought I you bored me to death!
I laughed at that one. I laughed a second time realizing when I get excited and try to communicate some of Farrell’s ideas (not very popular) i think the listeners heartbeat flatten out in about 2 minutes time too! Ha, ha!
( I really wanted to buy that T-shirt but it was a medium on clearance! Now that I quit ‘smoking butts’ for good I am going to have to get working on this heavy-handedness? Ah shucks, this self-improvement shit never ends. Once upon a time we were all ‘chickadees’ who didn’t need to be improved?
We really got lost along the way — another MYTH!))