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GMOs AGAIN: NEW STUDIES, GROWING BOYCOTTS, AND …

Well...they're at it again, the lovely folks at Duponzanto and Mon(ster)santo and all the other wonderful folks in agribusiness promoting the joys of GMOs. Let's start here:

GMO Corn Found in Humans Creates a “Living Pesticide Factory”

Now I have covered the Bt toxin story here previously, and how the wonderfully mercantilist revolving door between the corporate world and the FDA enabled these muck-peddlers to "buy the science" and "reassure" everyone that their products were safe. Except, as the article reminds us,

"The agency meant to protect consumers and the world’s largest genetically modified food producer swore that the Bt toxin that is produced inside the plant would be completely destroyed in the human digestive system and would have no impact whatsoever on consumers. But not only were they wrong in that Bt does produce resistant “super-pests,” researchers are discovering that it can have devastating effects on human health."

The problem being, as we noted previously, that the toxin is showing up in humans:

"When testing the blood of both pregnant and non-pregnant women at a hospital in Quebec, this dangerous toxin was found in 93 percent of the pregnant women and 80 percent of the umbilical blood in their babies, as well as 67 percent of non-pregnant women."

And this:

"Scientists believe that it could lead to a number of problems within the digestive tract as well as autoimmune diseases, learning disorders in children and food allergies – and as the Huffington Post article notes, all of these same health problems are on the rise."

GMOs and autoimmune diseases?  I don't even want to go there, but I'll bet your imagination is thinking many of the same things mine is.

So in the face of this wanton disregard for the human effect and cost of GMOs on the part of Duponzanto and the corrupt anti-people federal government, it is small wonder that people are taking matters into their own hands at the corporate and local level. Consider these two stories (courtesy of Ms. P.H. and other readers of this site):

Oregon lawmakers consider labeling genetically engineered food and restricting fish importation

This comes in the wake of the gentically engineered salmon story that I blogged about some weeks back. Let's look at an aspect of this article that encapsulates the cultural problem. Consider these statements:

"While Holvey said the “jury is out” on whether genetically engineered foods are safe to eat, a scientist from the University of California-Davis disagreed.

“'The science is not out on the safety of genetically engineered food. The science is definitely in,' said Dr. Alison L. Van Eenennaam, who specializes in Animal Genomics and Biotechnology at the University of California-Davis."

With due respect to the scientismist Dr. Eebennaam, the science is not in on GMOs, as any number of studies we have referred to here indicate, and which other sites have referenced, and have noted. What is "in" is the attitude of the scientismist: we are all supposed to bow to the corporate will and "authoritative pronouncements" of their hired scientific magisterium, which is just as fallible now as it was in the case of Robert Cardinal Bellarmine and Galileo. In short, people must have the right to make their own informed choices, and that requires labeling. Or to put that in plain English that even a bunch of scientists will understand, (1) I don't trust your studies particularly if funded by the US government or Mon(ster)santo, (2) I do trust the  studies and others that have indicated health risks, and I do so by way of a worse case scenario that it is better to be safe than sorry; (3) You can issue encyclical after encyclical on what the "correct" scientific opinion is" from the FDA or this or that "university professor" with a string of letters after their name, and I will still protest my right to be informed about what I am eating, and whenever I am able, I will not eat Duponzanto or Mon(ster)santo products. If after 100 years or so we discover that the encyclicals are correct, then two cheers for Mon(ster)santo... but I suspect they wouldn't be marshaling such tremendous resources if they themselves were not suspicious of their own "products".

Period. End of discussion. It's my life, not Mon (ster)santo's, not the US government's, and certainly not the FDA's or any scientist's, notwithstanding any dogmatic pronouncements to the contrary.

And like it or not, there are others who appear to have the same philosophy:

GM salmon rejected by Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Aldi and other food retailers

My only regret in reading this article is that I am not in an area serviced by Whole Foods, Trader Joe's or Aldi. But the message is the same: We don't care about your "established" science, because first of all, it isn't established, and second of all, we do have the right to know what we're eating and to make our own choices.  The other problem highlighted by these articles besides the scientismist problem of "bought and paid for science" and "bow to our superior knowledge and accept the choices we make for you" is that of the nearly complete collapse of the ability of any branch of the federal government to act in the interest of the average citizen rather than the banksters, Wall Street, agribusiness, or, in short, the corporatocracy that really rules this country. It's the Dummycrook-Pelosi approach to government: "Let's pass this bill in the middle of the night behind closed doors so we can find out what's in it," which in this case translates to "here, eat this for 30 years so we can find out what's in it and what it does to us, (and no, if it's bad, we won't cover it under Medicare because we've gutted that)."

And for all the Republithugs out there, just remember, your party under GHW Bush gave us the doctrine of "substantial equivalence" which has allowed GMOs to be marketed without labelling, since it was argued there was "substantial equivalence" between it and normal seeds and food, all the while it also allowed these companies to patent their products. A mercantilist case of having your seeds, eating them too, and charging farmers in India outlandish royalties.

The whole approach over the issue reminds me of previous affairs and pronouncements... BCCI was just a fluke of a few rogue elements in banking and intelligence. So was the Savings and Loan scandal. Nugan Hand. Waco was "for the children". Oklahoma City was a fertilizer bomb. 9/11 was airplanes and Arab terrorists and nothing more. It was a lone assassin with a bullet that managed to hit President Kennedy and Governor Connally and to emerge on a stretcher in nearly pristine condition after having gone through several bones having been fired as the third shot in 6.7 second from a misaligned telescopically-sited Italian 6.5mm bolt action Mannlicher Carcano.

The Science Is In. Our computer models have now proven it.

No thanks, Queen Nancy. No thanks, King George.

See you on the flip side.

26 thoughts on “GMOs AGAIN: NEW STUDIES, GROWING BOYCOTTS, AND …”

  1. Speaking of April Fools …
    GMO Felis domesticus and unexpected consequences
    www . smbc-comics.com/?id=2932

  2. I am on the last 50 pages in my reading of the book ‘Seeds of Destruction.” While i am or wasn’t aware of all the specifics of Rockerfailure this and that I had a pretty good idea that rockerfailure is really BAD NEWS!

    What really blew me away and makes me aware of my appalling ignorance was one little detail in this book. About a large minority of Peuto Rican women STERILIZED! Now, I heard about a large percentage of Native American women of illegally being neuted or spayed on certain reservations —this Peuto Rico business caught me by complete surprise!

    How Awful!

    Yet — some of those lab rats who ate only Frankenfoods grew sterile in just three generations. I wonder what’s up with that but I do know why the story got buried! Combin it with a bunch of other ‘means’ and there you have it —- population reduction or GENOCIDE by any other means is still genocide. —-

    Although in a way this use of the word is WATERING DOWN the concept still or I say — so what? (and who or what future generation wont be around to contest it?)

  3. Welcome to my back yard, guys! I actually know Holvey and will send him the link to this posting.

    It’s nice to know that there are still a few legislators with the guts to stand up for the people they serve. We need to support them and make sure they have the information they need to deal with the rent-a-docs that industry trots out to front for their fascist agenda.

    Unfortunately, all too many academics and professionals are so hypnotized by the “properganda” they’ve been fed, they actually believe the lies they tell.

    It is an interesting counterpoint to the decision of the Portland City Council to flouridate Portland’s water supply. Given the rather large Jewish population in Portland, I’m surprised that they would fall for something created by the Nazis. Maybe they have all forgotten Auschwitz . . . .

    It is important for us to supply the public with factual scientific information instead of the phony PR nonsense puked up by agencies and corporate lapdogs. The media will never do it. They are just sock puppets
    on autopilot.

    Witness the handling of the situation in the article in question – in the “interest” of “objectivity,” they quote some industry “authority,” yet present no real facts, nor ask any hard questions. Also, in true “properganda” fashion, Frau Doktor never comes right out and says GMO stuff is safe – just that it is “nutritionally identical” to real food – which is only a lie if you hold her to a sensible definition of nutrition.

    In point of fact, food contaminated with radiation, dioxins, plutonium, or any other deadly poison, can be said to be “nutritionally identical” to non-poisoned food – the fats, carbs, and proteins are still the same, even though it will kill you. It is the old “operation was a success but the patient died” routine.

    Given the inadequate and slipshod definition of “nutrition” used by the FDA and other such corporate finger puppets, it is easy to see how they would not feel they are lying.

    How do such people sleep at night, knowing they are helping to sicken and kill tens of millions? Is that their goal? Do they hold to the ideology that requires the massive depopulation of the Earth? Or are they really too dense to understand what they are doing? Are they just another level of what Stalin called “useful idiots?”

  4. give me the ability to a reasonable amount of self reliance .the knowledge that i can run my life better than you.my individual liberties are vastly profound and rises above that of the mobs.and as lord atkin proclaimed..power absolutely corrupts.like gmo/the big D big R and state run science.does this make me the caustic evil conservative??? oh well..bring on more of the hegelian dialectic.?maybe past that now ?hiding in plain sight..

    1. Hey, Duncan. Not trying to go against what you have already reasonably stated, but I tend to agree with Dr. Farrell’s idea that it is the corrupt who seek power.

  5. The marching morons control freaks at it again. They think they’re the master race and all they prove they’re the untermenschen stupid greedy bastards all.

  6. And just yesterday the Monsanto Protection Act was passed in Congress, in the still of the night:

    –http://www.legitgov.org/Monsanto-Protection-Act-slips-silently-through-US-Congress–

    1. All legislation passed in Congress, in the still of the night or on the Eve of Jupiter’s birthday means it was done by those who love Darkness more than Light.

  7. Thanks, Dr. Farrell, for your constant hammering on biotech … you do it so fervently and eloquently! You can’t keep ahead of them … here’s more genetic roulette for your hammer …

    Designer food plants that make new double-stranded [ds]RNA that can turn genes off and on (silence or activate). It’s already being used in some wheat and barely varieties and approved for human consumption. No safety studies have been made or required since international rules to assess risk of new dsRNA molecules are lacking. Meanwhile, research has shown that dsRNAs survive cooking and digestion, can transfer from plants to humans by ingestion, inhalation (i.e. flour from GM wheat), and absorption though skin. The molecule can be inherited by offspring; it has changed gene-expression in mice (maybe a new subhead to the transhumanist theme).

    According to the GMWatch briefing document, this is a big development area for biotech, so one thing we can be sure of … any infinitesimal genetic tweaks will allow Mon[sters]anto and others to file more patents to own more of our food supply. And Congress has just given Mon[sters]anto free reign to develop and plant whatever evil they contrive regardless of the courts or law.

    GMWatch short url: http://urlin.it/3a1b2

    1. Good Lord, Maragret the info you provided is scary, but thanks for keeping us updated, and of course thanks Dr. Farrell, I’m in 99.999% agreeement!!!

    2. Hi Nidster, worrisome for sure! Informed is armed and I think we’ve reached the tipping point. Opposition is growing more and stronger.

      Biotech puppet Obama signed H.R. 993 containing the “Monsanto Protection Act” … inspite of more than 250,000 citizen signatures on a letter asking that he veto the bill and send it back to Congress to remove the GMO rider. For those interested, here is an update from ANH on the GMO rider [with 102 reader comments!]:
      www(dot)anh-usa.org/the-latest-on-the-gmo-rider/

      And comments by Ronnie Cummins, Organic Consumers Assn.
      BioDemocracy or Corporatocracy: The Food Fight of Our Lives
      “The battle for food sovereignty is a battle we cannot afford to lose.”
      www(dot)organicconsumers.org/articles/article_27261.cfm

    3. Confirmed, but not surprised … Mon[ster]santo authored the wording of its own Monsanto Protection Act protecting it from federal courts, thanks to Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO). Yup, serving corporations, not people …

      naturalsociety . com/surprised-monsanto-openly-wrote-own-monsanto-protection-act/

      1. Robert Barricklow

        Once again Maragaret thanks for the vital update. The real press – that should open our eyes, ears, mind, and humanity – to an awarness of the powers that be/is NON-Existant, an extinct species, in the mainstream. Instead, they come from a Bizarro World; a negative image, an exact opposite of what a press should be. May they eat what they preach.

      2. The GOOD NEWS is … blowback! Thousands are enraged, finally awake to the depth of the corruption and feel betrayed. Obama is getting slammed on his FB wall. Rejoice!

        ‘Obama Signature On Monsanto Protection Act Ignites Massive Activism’
        naturalsociety . com/obama-signature-monsanto-protection-act-ignites-massive-activism/

        1. Margie,

          You put in some interesting posts lately that I know must have took some of your valuable time away from “other things?’ I think I can speak for the rest of us in here — THANKS for your contributions.

          Now the bad news.

          Yes —There will be a blow-back but it will be more like a ‘wimper’ into the ‘long dark night!” I am not the new-age optimistic type who believes everything is going to work out just fine once upon a time. The real blow-back will come when [[[[(I’m guessing and guessing is shooting your arrows into the pitch-black dark night! (It helps to have Bat’s Eyes?)]]]]]

          — there’s nothing on the dinner table to EAT!! (The chubboard is bare!)

          I will say it again —WHEN THERE’S NOTHING TO EAT! (ask some Oakies who use to listen to their grandparents boring stories when they were little tots?) I heard what MIGHT be heading down the shaft will make the Great Depression look like the Banksters’ Threw a Party?)

          Now take away their (people’s) —–Genetically Modified Foods” and empty out their pot-bellies and then you can really shout —Rah, Rah,Cis-Boom-Bah, for people will then come to their senses! ( Hey, give sic. – give the people some credit for many already know about GMO SCORE?)

          Margie, if you go into Whole Foods and suddenly realize your favorate breakfast cereal now cost 157 dollars a shrunken-box (2.7 oz) or your “Wholefood Oatmeal” now is 78 dollars a pound will you still eat it? Not if your one of us — see what I mean?

          Sure — I can get some quality-assured – fish just flown in from who knows where (the moon, certainly not this used to be pure UN-radiated Earth of ours) for a couple of thousand dollars an ounce. And you thought Dope was expensive?

          Going out to eat and it cost you 2,890 dollars and the tip!

          I’ll eat worms rather than starve to death so they really ‘got me’ with this MAKE-BELIEVE FAKE food! (Fake like everything else they can offer us humans!) We use to use the word “PLASTIC’ yrs. ago if yo– you can still remember — that is if your an ‘over-the-hill bugger like myself, ha, ha! Oh yes — the grey hairs, and they talk about no discrimination…!)

          Nothing like good old EMPTY-STOMACHS to start an old fashioned revolution?

          But is it good to PUMP up the Spirit?????

          For most will not mentally survive what is happening to us ‘right this very moment’ in front of our Brain-induced TV —TELEVISED EYES, ( hypnosis anybody? More like a coma I believe and I’m still in it. Once in a while my eyelids pop open and for one long brief second — I realize what it means to be ALIVE even if it is only a ‘precious few moment(s)!”

          Maybe, the future was already shown to us Holly-weird style in the form of Bizzaire Science Dystopia Fiction?

          I can remember a famous and very good Actor- E. G. Roberson sitting in “the chair” in the Solvent Greens’ Euthenasia Facilities watching what use to be Nature on that HUGH-movie screen just before they — helped send him to a better place, ha, ha! (one good thing to come out of it — no need for the electric chair anymore— that’s modern TECHNOLOGY for ya— improvements up the yin-yang!)
          _____________________

          Enough of my own brand of pumping. Yeah — 2018 is what that Union-HATING owner of Whole-Foods States. Just like HUSSAIN Obama’s new health care — three years from now.

          Did our ‘parents’ hear this same old tune before? Oh yes, I remember:

          A President proclaiming ” RECOVERY IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER! Yeah —- sure Bub, now put another thousand dollars in my tin cup, ha, ha!

          Have a great Saturn day for it looks like Saturn rules! (hope not— we can still hope for isn’t that tale of Pandora true or did I even get that one WRONG! The only evil not to escape is FALSE HOPE! I hope I read the myth wrong or if not I like that interpretation better.

          Keep on posting Maggie. Very informative!)

          1. Salutations Paul and thanks for the kind words. I enjoy your prolific posts. Like you, I’m not under any illusions of a fairy tale outcome to the relentless march of biotech. Contemptuous Mon[ster]santo, the chief evil one, has a long, poisonous history. We are steadfast anti-gmo activists since ’94 and have managed to be a big thorn in the side of biotech and have been able to radicalize a new generation as to its malevolent assault on health, food, farming and the planet. At least, for the moment, we still have our hard-won organic standards. I live in Whole Foods’ home town and have a love/hate relationship w/ it. Corporate WF has forgotten its roots and the activists who helped it become the conglomerate it is today. I’m an organic gardener. Fortunately we have many local growers/farmers/ranchers [and 3 growing seasons]. So far, there are no SWAT teams terrorizing our farmer’s markets or buying clubs.

            As you say, inflation will narrow choices and lower standards. With so many people on food stamps and food bank supplies running low it’s easy to imagine that biotech will find a ready place to “donate” its tainted food while getting a charity tax write off and praise for generosity [just like some scum corps -thinking of a US mfgr of contact lens solution- who dump their useless outdated inventory on impoverished earthquake victims in foreign countries in order to save warehouse taxes/costs/disposal fees and get inflated tax deductions].

            I’m a bit of a pessimist myself about the future. I do sense a sort of sci-fi dystopian world of Datalike halfdroid humans who will be ‘fed’ synthesized food from a replicator that analyzes their metabolism and formulates a nutritional soylent green pill or drink, or maybe ‘meat pies’ à la Sweeney Todd. The pleasures of food, as we know them, will be forgotten.

            Yes, exercising the grey cells is a must (do some research on foods that support memory) … I can almost physically feel my brain rewiring itself when reading Dr. Farrell and others. I like languages too. Your insatiable curiosity and sense of wonder should keep your brain sharp and flexible and young for your years. (I’m eligible for the gray hair club but not ready to join yet 😉

            I better sign off. I sometimes feel like I’m imposing on Joseph’s hospitality when going off on a tangent.

          2. Margaret,

            Your language is much more acceptable than mine. Reading it helps me in my own constant Self – Re Access – ment. I do it constantly but things usually stay the same. I am OK with it. (access to what, the Great Mystery? Yes, peeling onions —- only to maybe find out we’re just leaves on a tree and Fall is coming.)

            NO —Not Really for I think Spring has sprung and it feels fine. I find myself in Boston. A terrific place to be if your a PEOPLE WATCHER. (They also watch back. It’s amazing the conversations one can have without saying a word. But please do— especially on a depersonalized subway-train. A kind word or spoken observation directed at a stranger on a train and you see an unknown person light up like the morning Sun! (well their not exactly UNKNOWN for they share certain characteristics as human beings. When Droids start appearing we’ll sense it.)

            SMALL TOWNS aren’t the only places where you can meet your neighbor. (The only difference in Big Cities is your neighbor for the day is a different one?)

            I can sense the Unconscious body language yacking away. No need for ESP — just a set of good eyes. (which I now have after having two very successful Catarak operations – I got eagle eyes now and I can put the four-eyes away. No offense to those who still need those wire-framed specticles that were so hated by the Russian Gulag flunnkies. (I heard guys make passes at girls that wear glasses. Even grey haired ones, ha, ha! All kidding aside, That was an optician’s advertisement and I thought – how clever!)

            I’m traveled quite off the ‘tangent’ as you so rightly put it. I am a strick believer of mixing business(research) with pleasure otherwise we will became nothing more than a bunch of pinhead Poindexters following DOCTOR STRANGELOVE’S every move! ( a gardener you say — what a way to get your hands dirty, the clean way!)

            What a change from Chicago?

            Well anyway — we’re all what used to be Freud’s but now Postmodernism’s Discontents! (the use of WE’RE ALL some might object to but while in here on this particular web-site – The Giza Death Star(what a name!) I think I am not too far off the mark? Yeah, fed up with the way things are – I am too! Mad as hell in more ways than one, ha, ha!)

            I suppose it really is a bit personal. More like for-members only kind of talk? But I don’t like compartmentalism very much.

            I think in PHYSICS there’s a Grand Proposal stating everything is in touch with everything else whether we thinks so or not.

            Non-Space. I like to believe this is so and try sometimes to show it is. To hell with all this LINEAR JAZZ for the World wriggles or at least our eyes do in real-time but we don’t perceive it as such.

            It may only appear I really do run off the mouth on topics of discussion or mis-direction but don’t you believe it. We are learning amazing things in here. But if we cant apply this knowledge or data to our own lives then it is like eating JUNK food for the mind. (doesn’t do us much good.)

            I just try and link it to the F2F as the computer/internet crowd puts it but I rather call it a face-to-face but it actually isn’t because I cant tell if you stink?

            I heard that in some of the Arab Countries a business deal isn’t finalized until at least once person gets to at least sniff the other. A great traditional form of common sense (and cautious suspicion too) for — If a person has a repulsive smell than ….. we’re probably not going to pay as much attention to them.

            That is tricky! Perfume can hide awful hygenic habits but then again in Paris a couple of hundred years ago they did not have the running water facilities we do today just like the about 2 billion people on this planet who still don’t! (this does have a relationship to GMO foods because to listen to ‘THEM’ FRANKENFOOD research smells wonderful!)

            Yeah – now I really am getting off the GMO TANGENT!

            I had two funny dreams this month? One where I found myself hanging from a large tree limb. I couldn’t let go for it was too high up and I didn’t think I could shimmy down the tree trunk without crashing to the ground and breaking/crushing my ankles. The other I was descending down a set of stairs and all of a sudden their were no stairs looking down to some scary drop! I, naturally, woke my self up but I KNEW! Time for Paul (me) to realize even though I have reached a ‘high level of realization’ I still need to get back on the ground with the rest of HUMANITY!

            That’s usually how it works?

            Have a good egg and bunny day or a Good Easter Margaret and U-ALL if your so inclined in that direction but keep a sharp eye out for Yahweh and his vision machines, ha, ha?

          3. A perfect Spring day greeting to you, Paul, and thanks for another fascinating tour of musings from your richly furnished mind. Not to worry, the beauty of them is that they are who you are! It looks like I’m going to be spending a musical day w/ JS and CPE Bach, thanks to Dr. Farrell 😉 !

        2. Maggie,

          It’s me again. To demonstrate I can chew gum and walk at the same time. That I’m sometimes on the same page as you. I am going to post this interesting curiousity inducing paragraph. (too many “I Am’s if you ask me?)

          I just perused a very short paragraph in this “Seeds of Destruction” book I believe may be more informative style (to your liking) of writing minus the psychology. (of course)

          “””” Monsanto was founded in 1901 to manufacture industrial chem-
          icals such as sulphuric acid. It produced and licensed most of the
          world’s polychlorinated biphenyls, which later proved to cause
          severe brain damage, birth defects and cancer.”””””

          _____________________________

          Now the Psychology:

          When I first heard the rumor years ago of America’s School’s DUMBING DOWN its students by curricular changes I read up on it and did some studying.

          I never imagined they were speaking LITERALLY?

          It figures? Hedge your bets? If the curicular changes does not make one STUPID than the BRAIN DAMAGE WILL!!!!

          [[[[[ ( I feel like laughing but I wont knowing some people will not understand and take my black humor for what it is. The 48 cards I have in my deck have just been ‘restructured’ a little bit so the brain damage isn’t as bad as it could have been. (Data the Star- teckie robot isn’t the only one who can partially fix a few things?)]]]]]]

          How did I realized this rehabilitation? —- I was reading about blown-out electrical panels down in the sewers of New York City. When some wires get burnt they don’t replace the entire panel. They just re-circuit by placing new cords around the minny devastation bypassing the malfunction.)

          Now maybe the brain really can regenerate its nerve cells through acts of yogic-like WILL like all these new age nuts are claiming but in their case they don’t demonstrate too much success, ha, ha!

          I like to think I did a little of this with my NOGIN but I still have a long way to go. The idea of getting rid of the malfunctioning part of the brain (those blk. areas?) entices me to chase that TRANSHUMANIST wil-a-wisp!

          Not too long ago I heard Liver Cells can rejurvinate themselves which gave me hope because my daughter is the beneficiary of two liver transplants.

          Maybe the Brain can do so with certain health supliements but I fear snake-oil salespersons. (besides it costs MONEY and I look at the peddlers of this with their fat-wallets?)

          Anyway, I am not taking any chances so I just re-arranged the wiring in my brain by maintaining my ‘thought life.” (Which used to be called being an INTELLECTUAL —but not the really FINE-SPEAKING kind!)

          Enjoy the Weed End, opps — I meant the Week End Margie.

          Here in Massachusetts they just passed the medical mary-jane or wacky-weed bill. It was on the local news some smart-ass reporter took a set of DOG’s athritic leg bones X-rays and passed them off as her own. The MD gave her the ‘certificate’ allowing her to grow her own without the Cops busting down her front door.

          What exciting times these are!

          ( I cant myself for pot makes me very STIFF AND UPTIGHT! I gave that up too. If it keeps up I think I am going to turn into a saint with no fun-vices left, ha,ha! Not Quite! I’m never giving up those two lumps on my forehead that might be turning into horns, ha, ha!)

  8. Wow Joseph, it’s fun to read you unloading your Sten gun on the whole mess. I think the solution is to give the people the veto over any legislation.

  9. It’s not Nancy Pelosi trying to gut Medicare, it’s Ryan and other republicans, because it’s socialized medical insurance that works well for nearly every senior citizen, and republicans hate that, hence RomneyObamaCare.

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