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WARP DRIVE CAPABILITY AMONG THE GOALS OF DARPA: PART TWO

Yesterday I talked about the public admissions by DARPA and NASA that they were conducting actual experiments on the notion of a warp drive for deep space exploration and (though not stated, always an implication) colonization by humans. Such a practical capability would, as I suggested yesterday, give humanity not merely a practical interplanetary capability but a practical interstellar one. All this was made possible by the publication of the equations for such space-warping by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre.

But I ended by suggesting that maybe we're simply being publicly prepared for something. We are, I noted, in roughly the same position as Europe in, say, 1450: the word is already spreading, covertly and quietly, that there is "something else" over the western sea, and it's not just another route to China or the spice islands, and preparations are being made to make it public. The problem, as we now know, is that certain secretive groups - the Templars, for example - are now almost conclusively thought in most circles within the alternative research and truth community to have made the voyages much earlier than Columbus, and there is evidence that the Vikings did it long before that.

The analogy, I submit, may be truer to the present case than a superficial reading may suggest, for there is one more context that, I submit, gives a very different perspective on these events and experiments than meets the general public eye.

That context is the statements made toward the end of his life, and after his retirement, by former Lockheed-Martin  Skunk Works director, Ben Rich. Reportedly, Rich stated at conferences of engineering alumni from the black projects world, and reiterated such statements on his deathbed, that the black projects world had "found an error in the equations" and that we now could "take ET home," implying some fundamental paradigm shift had been achieved in theoretical physics in the black projects world, implying a similar technological renaissance.

The trouble is, Alcubierre published his paper at the approximate same time Ben Rich was making his statements, though it is clear from Rich's remarks, that he was talking about a discovery of an "error" that had been made some time before he made his remarks. The idea of an elapse of time is indicated by another set of implications that fell out of the remarks that Rich made, namely, that we now had the technology to take ET home.

If all this speculation be true, then it puts the DARPA conference and NASA experiments into a peculiar light, for it would indicate that what is being done is a "slow release" and cultural preparation for a technology that will radically transform human culture, institutions, and most of all, finances and economics...

It would mean, in short, that there is a space-age equivalent of the Vikings and Templars, already busily though covertly conducting their business in the New World, while the rest of Europe is quietly prepared for the public revelation. DARPA's conference would therefore simply mean that the USA intends to play the role of Spain in 100 years...

...and that, too, may be a message, and if it is, it's a bad one, because the message would be we're here to convert, plunder, and conquer.

See you on the flip side.

32 thoughts on “WARP DRIVE CAPABILITY AMONG THE GOALS OF DARPA: PART TWO”

  1. Well if one reads Miles Mathis (www.milesmathis.com/updates.html) there’s a mountain of errors. There’s a mountain of crap built on top of crap and its all called modern physics.

    Have a gander 😉

  2. flour and baking powder look very similar from 7 feet away.the resulting bread would taste much different if the wrong equations were added or subtracted.?how about doing math without a zero?

  3. “…and there is evidence that the Vikings did it long before that.”

    ” In modern times explorers, including John Franklin in 1824, and Dease and Simpson in 1837, encountered in the extreme north of America “natives” with Scandinavian characteristics. In 1910, the Icelandic-American Stefansson found an “Eskimo” tribe with European features, pale skins and yellowish or reddish-coloured hair, in the north-east of Victoria Province. Traditions prevail in Labrador and in Baffin Island, according to which “long ago” tall strangers had appeared called “tummits”. The Indians speak of “white men with wooden boats”. The tribe that is today gone from the Mandans perhaps constituted the last of the Viking groups which had once pushed on towards the interior, to be swallowed up at last by a Vinland enlarged beyond measure to the point of nightmare.” ~ From , “Golden Iceland”, p.82, Samivel.

    1. Caucasians were in North America long before the Vikings. Probably long before the mongoloid races arrived– at least the post glacial mongoloids. I posit that the mongoloid immigrants did to the caucasians living in North America what the later European immigrants did to the “Native” Americans. That is: genocide and displacement.

      Research Kennewick man. Just one of several inconvenient archaeological finds that destroys the orthodox paradigm. Reminds me of the apes finding the talking human doll in the original Planet of the Apes.

      Of course, when the northern ice cap moved slowly from being on top of present day Chicago to the Arctic Ocean, all those Caucasians once settled on the banks of the Arctic Ocean had to move as the climate got more inhospitable.

  4. Aliens welcome the Borg and Ferengi you are to be assimilated into the collective hive resistance is futile. By the way who running this racket really didn’t we already sell ourselves out under Noah and Abraham millenniums ago. The willing slaves of El,Elohim,Yahweh,Allah and what other alias they go under. As J.P.Farrell ends see you on the flip side.

  5. And how about this scenario: the government announces a breakthrough with warp drive that will allow us to travel to another galaxy. They also tell us such a trip would be astronomically expensive but due to the pressing overpopulation and ecological problems here on Earth and in the spirit of our human inclination to explore and always strive to move forward and investigate the unknown (blah, blah, blah) the government feels it is in the interest of humanity to embark on this quest. And as the United States can not bear this financial burden on its own, a global tax should be implemented to finance the technology development and mission. Thus, trillions of dollars are raised (stolen) from the mass of humanity, squirreled away by the breakaway civilization or used to meet other obligations, and the who galactic space mission is faked in Hollywood. Another bait and switch like the Moon landing.

        1. bdw-

          Right and then those trillions would be spent into the system on earth. However out in the galaxy those trillions aren’t really worth anything.

      1. Interesting comment by the sionist khazar. They remind me of that other Khazar piece of garbage: Alan Greenspan, who recently said the fake fed was no longer necessary. See, it’s a little Khazar hmor at our expense.

        You will not win. I promise.

        ————— **************. —————

        Doc, I enjoyed your post. Interesting speculation. Sorry to hijack this thread but I just thought this was very interesting.

        The malevolent and well thought out genocide of humanity disguised as a nuclear appcalypse was almost ushered in in 2007. Did you know that? I didn’t. I think this was posted in response to criticism of his support for NWO stooge Obama. I guess he’s saying, “you don’t know just how bad things are”.

        Anyways, here’s a clip:

        The exposure of Plame by the GOP allowed this spying to continue and may have led to the development of North Korea’s nuclear weapons. The technology trail, as described by FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, has put top American weapons technologies in the hands of nearly every American enemy.
        Nozette believed he was spying against the US for Israel and, when approached by FBI agents pretending to be Mossad agents, showed surprise. He said he had been working for the Mossad for years. However, this was not the case.
        If, as prosecutors allege, former Vice President Cheney had been involved in derailing CIA efforts to break up spy rings active in nuclear proliferation, Cheney’s involvement, whether done because of a total mental breakdown or a real desire to harm the security of the United States, are going to take the full power of every criminal element high in our government to suppress.
        Sources indicate that Vice President Cheney had become involved in an extremist Christian cult that openly advocated nuclear war, knowing it would destroy all life on Earth. Many top GOP leaders, Tom Delay, John Ashcroft, Trent Lott, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, Paul Wolfowitz and others, some Christians, some Jews, are believed to have shared bizarre theories of Armageddon, apocalypse and rapture.
        Cheney is thought to have believed he had been personally selected to sit at the hand of G-d and supervise the suffering of those “left behind” as described in series of books read and discussed at the highest levels of the Bush administration.
        The destruction on 9/11 and the Iraq invasion closely parallel scenarios described in these books. The number of bizarre coincidences involving these and many other issues seem, to many, overwhelming, showing a human, if not diabolical hand.

        Do

        1. i–

          When and where did Alan Greenspan say the Fed is unnecessary? (If he said that he may in fact be hinting that money is not really a singular driving force anymore–it isn’t.)

          Still up to your old suppositions, incorrect, I see.

    1. I don’t think it will ever be a financially feasible task to “relocate” millions, or even billions, of people off of this planet (no matter how good the technology).

      Your fake scenario is therefore transparently unrealistic.

      Your main idea is valid though. They would just have to use some other justification, like “we need to DEFEND our butts from the aliens . . .” or some such story.

      1. bdw000,

        the first global tax would be for building the warp drive in order to send out ships to find our new home. Then we will be hit up for another few trillion in the form of another global tax to allegedly build the teleportation devises to ship millions of Earthlings to their new home in another galaxy.

        this teleportation device in actuality will be either:

        1) a gas chamber

        2) a virtual reality pod/casket which will make us think we are on our new planet

        3) will actually deliver us to some hostile location out in space where we have been sold into slavery or as ground beef, courtesy of the breakaway civilization.

        1. Frankie,

          Thank you for reminding me of the game plan. It’s so cynical we care not to notice but not noticing it doesn’t change anything if indeed we can ‘change’ fate?

          Your post reminds me of an episode on the old TV Series – The Twilight Zone called —- To Serve Man! Yum, yum — delicious, ha, ha!

          I am almost done reading the “Seeds of Destruction.” Interesting book and I see it as similar to George Steinbeck’s “Grapes of Wrath” in the sense that that book stirred a Nation to remedy the terrible living conditions of Oakies in Californicate Land. Whether the above book will do the same, I am not so optimistic for we live in different and very strange electronic-times!

          Here’s two simple paragraphs from that book that I imagine prove YOUR on the RIGHT TRACK!

          The first is on pg. 275 and 276 and the second on pg. 277:

          1.) The US and UK governments’ relentless backing for the global
          spread of genetically modified seeds was in fact the implementation
          of a decades long policy of the Rockefeller Foundation since the
          1930’s, when it funded Nazi eugenics research —i.e. mass-scale population reduction and control of darker-skinned races by an Anglo-Saxon white elite. As some of these circles saw it, war as a means of population reduction was costly and not that efficient.

          2.) “We tempted to say that nobody in their right mind would
          ever use these things,” remarked Stanford University biophysicist,
          Professor Steven Block, a man with years of personal experience
          with classified Pentagon and Government biological research. “But,”
          Block added, “not everybody is in their right mind…”(54)
          ____________________________

          I guess they don’t need no Napoleons or Hitlers anymore to do the job!

          Have a good day this Moon-day = TODAY (while we still have a day….?)

          Help, help —– The SKY IS FALLING!

      1. And I don’t think ALL humanity will be given the opportunity… Just that “breakaway civilization” that is being discussed.

  6. The question I pose to you all: would you rather make such a trip as human or a cyborg? They both have their pros and cons. Most humans get sick just traveling to Mexico. Imagine the diseases you could pick up in another galaxy?

  7. I’am reminded of the Shortcut Man’s analogy,
    “You could annoy a man with a true grasp of nature, but you could never disappoint him.”
    Mandkind, being a work in “progress” (and we all know about that word); are we, then, bringing progress – as a process, to the rest of the galaxie? Or, have we already been processed?
    Paul has been writing of the seeds of destruction. Are we engineered to spread the seeds of our “cousin’s” progresss – as a process? If, indeed, we can recognize the “meme”, the “wetiko”, the whatever you want to call “it”,
    …can we not “color” it gone?
    Looks as if our leaders have colored us gone, or, at the very least, as a usuable tool.
    The analogy of Spain is on the money.

    The new “radical changes” are, to me, read as:
    new manufacturing goals.

    Already on the flip side.

    1. Luso,

      When you think of what the Conquistadors accomplished, it is quite astounding. The equivalent of a gang of Hell’s Angels riding into California and conquering it. So few, operating on just their wits, guile and lots of courage (and not much morality of course) conquering so many. An impressive feat. Carpe diem.

      1. The conquistadors could never have defeated the Aztecs alone. They literally had tens of thousands of indian allies (all the neighbors of the Aztecs, all of whom hated the Aztecs for obvious reasons).

        It is still an impressive story from the perspective of the conquistadors.

        The overwhelming outcome however is simply the untold misery inflicted on millions and millions of natives, continuing on even today . . . .

        1. so true, bdw000. untold misery.

          yes, the conquest had more to do with trickery, taking advantage of native prophecies (in the case of the Incas at least), and pitting factions and tribes against one another. The old playbook. I wonder if they had banksters coaching them? I always saw them more like Vikings but maybe I am wrong. none the less, the Conquistadors were pretty bold, but dastardly for sure.

  8. I doubt that, assuming the galaxy out there is civilized, the new kid on the block will be in a technological position to convert, plunder and conquer. The races we would meet would not be in the position the American Indians were in, that is technologically inferior.
    Also I have problems with this “nuts and bolts” view of the cosmos out there. Seems to me ET and their civilizations will be much weirder and “aliener” than we suppose, or even can suppose. It will not be simply meeting ETs and trading goods and techs.. It will be much more paradigm-shattering than that.

    1. Some races out in the greater galaxy could very well be ripe for plunder and abuse by some outside power like earth people with newly developed warp drive. Though more likely the plunder would have happened millions of years ago by other parties.

      Then there’s always the Nox (of SG1) possibility.

      1. Seems to me humanity would be a fine candidate for a race thats ripe for plunder. Apparently this hasnt happened. At least, as far as I can detect.
        Maybe this idea that races are out to plunder and rape is just a human projection? Maybe the rest of the universe is not as savage as we are? Maybe ETs are actually more developed than us morally and intellectually? I would bet they are and that notions of plunder are viewed by Them as childish fantasies.

        1. p-

          Comment wasn’t about potential plunder of earth. Also given that warp drive implies the tech to destroy one’s planet many times over, other groups out in the greater galaxy able to travel to earth probably have some reasons to limit abuse of lesser types, like us.

          Then there’s always the Nox model v the weak and not so powerful who play gods (much of what people obsess over here); that’s the Gou’uld. (Star Gate, SG1, if you don’t know the reference.)

      1. It’s not that the Europeans didn’t bring those things, but the American Indians did pretty well against the white man, until the advent of cartridged ammo and repeating rifles. So that’s after the Civil War.

        1. I disagree: disease really did devastate the Indians.

          If disease hadn’t been an issue (killing an estimated 50 to 90% of all natives in North and South America), it seems possible that the Europeans would not have been able to settle the Americas so quickly.

          Many Indians on the Atlantic coast of North America were killed by disease BEFORE the English even landed (the diseases moved up from the Spanish colonies before the English arrived).

          1. bdw–

            Never said that American Indians weren’t killed by European disease. Those who survived did pretty well, until the repeating rifle (Winchester) and cartridges ammo. What you’re talking about happened a couple of hundred years before.

    2. Mister or Misses “P”

      I wonder why—— H. P. Lovecraft ——–never claimed to have been abducted by Aliens outside of his books.

      He certainly tangled with them inside his books. Yes, I believe they – the Outer Space Creatures— would be so bizzare as to be impossible to even look at never mind imagine! (I think occasionally we can SEE them in our multi-dimensional-dreams – SOMETIMES??????)

      I imagine their just too far out or even too creepy (that too) to comprehend! I don’t know — ask a couple of Satanist what their demons look like? If their not scared their just telling you a line of made up bull to try and manipulate you!

      So —we see according to our feelings or past Associations but there is no sic – association when it comes to that! For example we confabulate something like what it was we thought we just saw —but don’t know we’re doing it — sometimes we ‘suspect?”! But that isn’t what we really saw in the dream.

      We CANT Cognate it with our waking minds! (In dreamland of course we do. It’s a plain as day.)

      I am not talking about ‘those’ who see things no-one else can on City Buses. Could be the same but I am not nuts so its hard to tell what exactly they are SEEING? No wonder why so many of them are always scared. I would be too if I woke up and Whatever INVISIBLE IT is was still there!)

      And even if they were ‘friendly’ do they have hands? And all them possible GERMees. Heaven help us for we could all die from their organisms if they even have organisms? Could be some kind of Neutrono Slime?

      I like the notion that during the European Plague —- reports of little green men (I am making the green men part) with long sticks and black-hooded robes were spraying something in the middle of the night just before disasters struck.

      Those are the best kind of “campfire stories.” Who knows? Maybe they did! That’s my kind of High-Octane-Speculation!

      If there really are man-made vehicles in WARP(ED) drive then all bets are off. Almost anything is Possible? BUT forgive me if I am a little DOUBTFUL!

      In your dreams I will believe anything you say about them but when my eyelids are open — that’s a different story!

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