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DNA PATENT RESEARCHERS CONCERNED: DO YOU OWN YOUR GENES? THOUGHTS AND ...

This is a blog about some other blogs that have appeared the previous week on this site, and about some books, and some dot-connecting. So here we go.

The late Charles Fort said something in his The Book of the Damned that I and other authors have cited, pondering its implications from the standpoint of ancient texts that suggest that humanity was perhaps the product of some genetic engineering experiment between "the gods" and some Earth-born hominid:

"I think we're property.

"I should say we belong to something:

"That once upon a time, this earth was No-man's Land, that other worlds explored and colonized here, and fought among themselves for possession, but that now it's owned by something;

"That something owns this earth - all others warned off....

"I suspect that, after all, we're useful - that among contesting claimants, adjustment has occurred, or that something now has a legal right to us, by force, or by having paid out analogues of beads for us to former, more primitive, owners of us - all others warned off - that this has been known, perhaps for ages, to certain ones upon this earth, a cult or order, members of which function like bellwethers to the rest of us, or as superior slaves or overseers, directing us in accordance with instructions received - from Somewhere else - in our mysterious usefulness." (Charles Fort, The Book of the Damned [New York: Tarcher-Penguin, 2008] p. 163.)

Now let us add to this intriguing thought the issue I first raised in my book Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Men, namely, that the right of corporations to patent individual genome sequences that have been directly engineered or modified might eventuate in the possibility that all such sequences, when added together, might imply that the entire human genome was privately owned.  (See my Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Men [Port Townsend, Washington: Feral House, 2011], pp. 125-158.)

At the time, my concerns were a "distant" possibility, or so I thought. But now researchers at Cornell are raising the same concerns:

You Don't "Own" Your Own Genes Researchers Raise Alarm about Loss of Individual "Genomic Liberty" Due to Gene Patents That May Impact the Era of Personalized Medicine

Note the study's conclusion: when all the individually patented sequences are added up, the entire human genome is owned by some corporation:

"Their analysis concluded that almost all clinically relevant genes have already been patented, especially for short sequence patents, showing all human genes are patented many times over."

Just for the record, I stand firmly in agreement with Dr. Mason's statement on the issue of the individual human genome:

"'I am extremely pro-patent, but I simply believe that people should not be able to patent a product of nature,' Dr. Mason says. 'Moreover, I believe that individuals have an innate right to their own genome, or to allow their doctor to look at that genome, just like the lungs or kidneys. Failure to resolve these ambiguities perpetuates a direct threat to genomic liberty, or the right to one's own DNA.'"

That said, now let's recall my blog for last Tuesday, April 9, 2013: "The DNA-ET Messages Meme is Back...on This Time It's In Icarus... Can You Say Disclosure?" (Read more: THE JUNK DNA-ET MESSAGES MEME IS

There I indicated that some scientists are arguing that DNA not only may but actually does carry a "message" not "from here." In my blog that day, I also referenced this article: Is An Alien Message Embedded In Our Genetic Code?. The crucial paragraph from this article for our purposes here is this:

"This interpretation leads them to a farfetched conclusion: that the genetic code, “appears that it was invented outside the solar system already several billions years ago.” This statement endorses the idea of panspermia, the hypothesis that Earth was seeded with interstellar life. It’s certainly a novel and bold approach to galaxy conquest if we imagine this was a deliberate Johnny Appleseed endeavor by super-beings."

In yet another blog this previous week, I also argued that NASA appears to be in the process of collateralizing whatever resources exist in the solar system, for the purposes of mining them, and I raised the issue of the possibility of there being a "prior claim" on such resources. (See "Secret Space Program Anyone? NASA Wants to Move and Mine Asteroids"  SECRET SPACE PROGRAM ANYONE? NASA WANTS TO MOVE AND MINE ASTEROIDS ). In that article, I advanced the question of what would happen if, when moving an asteroid to mine it, we discovered there was a prior claim? I argued there that this possibility would inevitably have led to secret planning for "space dreadnoughts" to protect the commercial venture, and the shipping of asteroids to be mined (if this sounds like previous human history, you're right. The pattern is clear, from the Roman Empire, to Byzantium, to Venice, to the Ottoman Turks, to France, Holland, and, obviously, Great Britain).

So what about a prior claim to DNA, as Charles Fort suggested at the turn of the last century? If the Icarus scientists are correct, such a DNA message would, in all principles of law, constitute a prior claim, and thus, the other implication raised by the Icarus "Wow! Signal" article is that US corporations may have all the wonderful bought-off opinions from the US Supremes (and yes, I do believe all justices and judges can be corrupted, none more so than those at the very top), but it won't do them much good if the prior claimants suddenly show up, and thus one has another motivation for those oligarchs and technocrats of a breakaway civilization to make contingency plans for the possibility that "they" do show up, intent upon pressing those claims...

See you on the flip side.

 

 

18 thoughts on “ DNA PATENT RESEARCHERS CONCERNED: DO YOU OWN YOUR GENES? THOUGHTS AND ...”

  1. Off topic re: Germany
    Recently around the time of the auto show there was this Volkswagen poster all around town
    http://www.volkswagen.ch/fr.html
    It says “Volkswagen, popular as ever, at prices from yesteryear” and the picture echoed, at least to me, a certain period in time where VW started as the “car of the people”… I thought it was in bad taste, but the colleagues who were with me did not agree and laughed me off: I was just seeing things.
    At the car show, VW group brands, over a decade after the euro, are now sprawled on almost half a floor.
    Also, VW in recent years purchased Skoda from Czech Bohemia (which now makes damn fine cars for the price, by the way) and that jewel from France’s engineering and indutrial past, Bugatti from Molsheim, Alsace, France (do I hear “hey, that was ours, too” or am I being paranoid?).

  2. If, indeed, consciousness does not reside in the body, “ownership” of DNA is to some extent a moot point. It is a completely artificial construct. We are mortal, and thus we can never really own anything, even our own bodies, except for a limited time. So how can anyone or anything else own them? I claim the rights to the Ikea furniture instructions, so I own all your Ikea furniture, now and forever?!

    Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

    1. Sophia,

      I don’t claim to be no consciousness ‘expert’ like those with PHDs in Transpersonal Psychology. As if what comes out of them after a big meal is any different (flavored ice cream) then the rest of ‘UNDERLINGS’ like us!

      I don’t want to be a sophomore any more but I will say your Half-Right when you state consciousness doesn’t reside in the body. (do you realize how silly that sounds?)

      A more neutral wording would be Consciousness is not LIMITED to only the ‘body!” (Field Theory of the Mind – anybody???/)

      We are all ‘entitled!”

      It’s just more open to use SLIPPERY language that leaves the door open for alternative views there-by escaping the ‘Ideology Trap!”

      Now if you think of your body as a piece of “property’ to have then that’s different — a different narrative.

      One more thing I almost forgot —- When using sic — slippery language just make sure it’s not SLIMMY slippery language. We see too much of that. I don’t imagine you would being an active participant in this web-site?

      I don’t hold it against our natural friends like EELS to be Slimmy?? Ever try to grab one of them. Eck! Slip right out of you hands! And don’t try and win Darwin’s dumbest reward by trying to grab ‘Electric Eels, ha, ha! Forget about Conger-eels. I don’t even want to even ‘near’ one of those ‘buggers’ when fishing for their very fast and have very sharp teeth!. (like little-red-riding-hood’s Grandma!)

      (I use to Fish long ago>although there’s the harbor out where my front lawn should be, I don’t think there’s many fish left to fish? It would probably be a waste of time if I took it up again.. No, I take that back. Being out near the Water is a refreshing experience at times! I really should get that pooch I’ve been wanting. Sit out there on the bench in the evening and admire the lit-up Boston Skyline.

      My AGE is creeping up on me —OH NO! ha, ha! (we have to be a grown-up sometimes and forget all this INNER CHILD Peter Pan non-sense, ha, ha!)

  3. Regarding “who owns us,” I suggest checking out the chapter “Hearsay Evidence” from Robert Monroe’s book FAR JOURNEYS.

    This is just words from someone (there is no way to verify any of it), but most here would probably want to see what Monroe has to say. We are literally just psychic milk cows for “something.” This is presented in a very neutral way, simply explaining the way things are, and is nicely done.

    Robert Monroe is the author of the fairly famous book JOURNEYS OUT OF THE BODY (first published in the late 1960’s).

    His third book is THE ULTIMATE JOURNEY. All three of his books are recommended reading for anybody.

    I cannot claim to know that everything (or even anything) he says is accurate, but he appears (I repeat, “appears”) to be honest in his reporting of “out of body” experiences.

    1. Thanks bdw000,

      For the Robert Moore reference. I’ll have to look him up and see how he explains things? I tried to obtain an OBE but with no luck. I tried and tried and tried — nothing happened. Then one day I found myself floating above my body. Wow, what an eerie-feeling. My body also felt a bit paralyized for a short minute. (now NDE or near death experiences are another matter but I wont go into why for it takes too many lines to explain the ‘process.”)

      Then I woke up and laughed to myself. It was a “Lucid Dream” and I didn’t know it. Once I woke up rushed to record the dream. I still felt tired so went back to sleep for a couple of more hours. Upon awakening I realized I forgot the previous dream so I reached over to my nightstand’s pad to read what I wrote and there was nothing writing on the paper. Just BLANK LINES! (I had dreamt I woke up and recorded the dream when in actuality I was sic – ‘dreaming that I woke up! IT can get a bit TRICKY at times!!!!!!

      I have a ‘funny feeling” some of those people who claimed to have been ABDUCTED BY ALIENS were having lucid dreams and couldn’t tell the difference.

      This is why we should LISTEN to everyone’s stories for even if ‘little green men from the planet Geiko” didn’t really scoop them away the ‘EXPERIENCES they might have had did in a very convincing phenomenological way!!!!!! ( I use the word ‘might have” for people are still good ‘bullshitters’ at times—I ought to know, ha, ha! I don’t know you so I wont say you ought to know, ha, ha!)

      Again thanks for the tip!

      1. I just remembered — could it be in our modern age people no longer claim to have been possesed by incubus or sucubus (probably spelt wrong) anymore.

        Now it’s ET s who GRAB-THEM!

        Yeah — the hip-hop BOOGIE MAN has come to ‘GET YOU!” (One tends to dream only in what they believe in and here’s a good tip for ‘dreamings’ — Try to see what you disbelieve. What you ‘don’t believe in can be very real when in lucid dreams. Get past your dis-beliefs about the ‘IMPOSSIBLE” and you may just see much more. [[[[[(but don’t apply this in the ‘day-world>”) {then again there’s a reason we don’t see certain things} (I wont tell you — you already know) and it’s good not to ‘monkey around’ with those defenses.? or YOU’LL BE SORRY!))))

    2. bdw000,

      I just looked up Robert L Moore’s books on amazon. (it’s not new for me?) I did read a catchy title of one of his books. “Facing the Dragon: Confronting Personal and Spiritual Grandiosity.”

      Interesting title — Why read Moore’s book ABOUT ‘grandiosity’ when you can read the real thing or a book by a clever NAZI called Julius Evola called — RIDE THE TIGER: a Survival Guide for the Aristocrats of the Soul!

      I need to cut this out for it’s Saturn’s day and I have ‘a few financial things’ to attend to beside SITTING in front of this DAM COMPUTER and getting a sore buff!

      Again, thanks for the tip and —-Have a good day “bdw00 — I’m out the door!

  4. I think that most people who come here are in agreement that at some time in the past a high ancient civilization manufactured the human race, the purpose is irrelevant. The problem is that the rest of the world doesn’t know it and therefore are out of the loop.

    Now enter our “cousins” that have come back to take possession, the main stream academia is going to look pretty sick in light of toe to toe slugging-it-out battle between Darwinists and Creation dudes, in other words they lied to all of us.

    The ownership of genes in my opinion is irrelevant, what matters is that the whole human race is going to be pissed off BIG TIME, and if anything is going to start an uprising, this will.

    Now throw in the “elites”, and make no bones about it, they will side with the “cousins” because they will say that they are “related” to the “cousins”.

    I just hope I’m around to see this s***fight in all it’s glory.
    PS: Looking forward to tonight’s vidchatz.

    1. DownU:

      No, though I’d say there’s an effort to convince many that humanity is simply a construct of some other party. Including some not very high ancient civilizations of say 10,000 to 20,000 BCE.

      In other words that may all have happened but it’s a distraction from an actually high ancient civilization of millions to hundreds millions of years ago on earth (and elsewhere).

      The position you’ve espoused allows humans to simply abdicate responsibility for earth, for figuring themselves and other realities out, for relating peacefully to others beings and existences, etc. In the US that’s just the standard position of the “christian” right, “our god did it, so we can’t possibly challenge/change anything”. I’m aware of other variations, including some ancient astronaut stuff from the upper Amazon.

      Similar “thinking” sees claims of global warming as an invented conspiracy.

      Yes, there are a lot of lies being told to justify some predetermined limitation to what can be done, what can exist, etc.

      1. Nicely stated Yaj. I agree, save that I am disagreed on the point of global warming. I don’t think it was invented, but I do believe it is “an opportunity” let’s say. But I suspect you might yourself entertain a similar view.

  5. Lets rename the Earth Ferenghar where everything a commodity. The ultimate planet of slaves from microbes to the earth itself. All hail our master GOD in all it’s various names. All this is legalize slavery pure and simple nothing else. Our Elites greed and lust for power knows no bounds.

  6. All patents and claims of property rely ultimately on violence for enforcement. People may tell me that all my genes are someone else’s property but I would simply not accept this. Nobody can own me. Ever. For the simple reason that I claim sovereignty. Therefore violence would be necessary to enforce this claim.
    So ultimately any talk of laws and property and patents is irrelevant, for if the property does not accept the assigned role of slavery, there is no property.
    So no-one ‘out there’ can own us, even if they think they can, if we do not accept it. ‘They’ could use violence to enforce their claim but that would be no different to us simply being attacked, whether there was a claim on us or not. So basically anybody out there could attack us, or not, but any talk of ownership is irrelevant.

  7. Frankie Calcutta

    Breakaway Civilization as rebellious freedom fighters? Or, in the least vying to be the new slave owners. So first you have to overthrow the current alien lackeys overseeing property Earth and its slaves. (Those guys who believe they have special DNA inherited from their alien creators/overlords and who use very ancient tricks to keep us in line). You fail in an overt attempt (WWII) so now you decide to adopt the overseers tactics and use other more subtle means for control and conquest. You lay a trap for the overseers by playing to their insatiable greed and hubris allowing them to eventually hang themselves before the slaves who then believe they are free when the old overseers’ debt, god, and energy schemes collapse. In the meantime you furiously work to adopt advance technology that will hopefully put you on par with the aliens who claim ownership and who just may return when their gold shipments suddenly stop from planet Earth. You begin to prepare the populous for this event.

    Will the UN one day declare an Emancipation Proclamation by order of the Breakaway Civilization?

    Incognito made a good point– why this insatiable lust for massive amounts of minerals if they intend to kill most of us off? If 80% of the population is liquidated, then the current amount of minerals in circulations would be more than enough to run the Earth. Either they don’t intend on killing most of us off or they are aware of other trading partners in the galaxy or may even intend to trade with the old alien masters but on the Breakaway Civilization’s new profitable terms.

    The movie Battleship makes a little more sense now– the Breakaway Civilization building alliances to fight returning aliens who have been called back by nebbish looking fellows in the government.

    And what about other aliens who may be illegally prospecting minerals right under our noses? This would only be logical if we assume lust for minerals is what makes so many of us in our Universe tick. Good old fashioned claim jumpers. Are we trying to drive them off currently? Will they leave in a hurry when the alien Earth owners return?

  8. Okay some other party, mostly not of Earth origin, owns Mars, some asteroid, or the very genes that ostensibly govern some bio-cellular functions.

    What court makes this off Earth “ownership” legitimate?

    And then of course, pleomorphism, the work of W Reich, much of the things recorded about ormus over the last 25 years, all suggest big problems with matter being the totality of existence, and DNA/RNA being anything near the totality of life. (Yes, of course there are other points from say 100 years ago that back up this point.)

    1. Agreed: I claim no proof, but my opinion is that there is a “non-physical” side to existence, whatever that may be.

      I read once where someone commented on the famous statement that chimpanzees and humans share 98% off the same DNA.

      Mainstream talking heads usually cite this as “proof” that humans are 98% the same as chimps.

      But the commenter pointed out that, if anything, what this proves is that DNA cannot be the main determinant of what we are (or anything else is). The difference between chimps and humans is a great, infinite gap. To say that we are only 2% different than chimps is obviously wrong on the face of it. If our DNA differs by only 2%, then there must be something ELSE that determines what we are.

      Another obvious counterargument is that most humans differ by more than 2%, whether physically or mentally.

      DNA simply cannot be the whole story.

      1. It probably is the whole story, bdw – the problem lies with us in the fact that we do not know the whole story lol.

        And whilst our current crop of so called intellectual geniuses refuse to look past only the physical realm of existence we will probably never, ever learn that whole story!

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