5000 CAVE PAINTINGS OF HUMANS, ANIMALS, AND “STUFF” FOUND ...
While reading through the Huffington Post the other day, I can into this one, and for a variety of reasons that we'll get to in a moment, had to share it. Here it is important for the reader of this blog to look through the slide show of these paintings, for my comments will be based on a couple of them.
Cave Paintings Found In Mexico: 5,000 Ancient Works Depict Humans, Animals
Notably the article states that these cave paintings - almost 5,000 of them! - have not yet been dated. My guess is maybe a thousand to two thousand years old, at best. Assuming that these paintings are not clever forgeries (which certainly seems unlikely, after all, who would go to all the trouble to hoax almost 5,000 paintings in caves? and for what purpose?), then the article raises some interesting questions.
The statement that concerns us here is this one:
"The ancient artists painted humans, animals and other scenes from nature using a palette including red, yellow, black and white, reports the AFP. The colors were created using organic dyes and minerals, according to the INAH press release."
I don't know about you, but "humans, animals and other scenes from nature" do not, to my mind, adequately describe paintings or "scenes" such as this:
Mexican Cave Painting
I have enhanced the color and levels a bit, so that you can see how stunning this picture is...except, I don't see much resembling humans, animals, and "other scenes from nature." There are lots of arrows with circles around the shafts, and, well, a basic geometric obsession. One might even say a geometric dynamism, suggestive of strife or conflict.
Then there was this stunning slide, and again, I have tried to enhance the original colors and levels simply so the vivid details here are quite visible:
Mexican Cave Painting
One might see the center figure as a highly abstract stick-figure "human" inside some sort of box, but what about the two boxes on the right of the painting? What are they? Can one honestly look at them and maintain they are depictions of humans, animals, or scenes from nature?
I will be honest... my mind was racing when I saw these, and I will readily admit, I am speculating wildly again, beyond even the "high octane" ideas I normally like to indulge in on this site:
Why paint so many pictures? And why paint them in what appears to be such a dramatic, dynamic, almost obsessed and abstract, symbolic style? Indeed, it appears to my non-artistic, non-archeological eyes that these artists, whoever they may have been, were in a hurry to record something, to capture a lot of details as quickly as possible, before the inevitable distortions of fading memories crept in. These were not artistic creations that were labored over, with dyes and pigments carefully selected, and images and symbols internally debated in the mind before being painted. These were done in a hurry, but yet, with care and deliberation. These two paintings leaped out at me precisely because they did not appear to be describing "humans, animals, or scenes from nature," but rather, something technical or technological, and a dramatic event. The statement in the article struck me as an attempt to put out a "meme or template" of interpretation, before the stunning nature of some of the paintings sinks in. They are all stunning, they are all beautiful, but these two in particular I found to be profoundly provocative and disturbing.
I cannot avoid the thought: someone was trying to preserve a record of something, the only question is, what?
See you on the flip side.
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Some of the illustrations look like dynamite sticks or fireworks. Others look like Feynman diagrams that depict interactions of elementary particles. Overall, these pictures look to me to be scientific in nature. I don’t see anybody getting killed. In fact, there aren’t any realistic human or animal-like figures.
The article on Mexican cave paintings includes what appears to be a Maya glyph in the second photo. The article does not indicate a time frame or the locations of the caves. One possible explanation for the apparent haste could be that Mesoamerican scribes were writing in a hurry to record from memory the documents that had been burned by the Spanish not quite 500 years ago.
notice there is a large proportion of grouping with (5) entities ??numeral representation of ?
I think Dr. Farrell is onto something with with paintings being rushed and due to some sort of event. However i am leaning towards the view that these were not done all at once but were probably done by a few ”shamans” during and/or after entheogenic use. That the Shamans(or just very curious people) needed multiple caves because they would fill one cave up, but wanted to continue on with their quest..
There are numerous entheogens located in Mexico, including but not limited to Mimosa Hostilis, Salvia Divinorum, Psylicibin Mushrooms and Peyote, most with multi-thousand years history of use. Mimosa(which contains di-methyltryptamine), but in particular Saliva are very short acting entheogens which will produce PROFOUND out of the body experiences, which often times will be based on a purely geometric reality. Under these circumstances with Salvia or Di-methlytryptamine(and to some degree peyote or psylicibin mushrooms) the person must immediately rush to record the experience before it fades, which can be in a few seconds sometimes with salvia when smoked or a few seconds to few minutes with Di-methyltryptamine depending how its consumed.
There are a few things in the top photo which indicate spears, but overall it seems to me that it may have had different “painters” at different times, but it’s the second photo that is more readable.
The second photo shows squares and rectangles, the rectangles I see as doorways, and some sort of being inside those doorways, but I’m just guessing like most of you.
There are many aboriginal cave paintings in Western Australia, and the similarity to these are they are all painted in red, and some indicate “skeleton” type figures.
My thought is they may depict either or both a stylize computer microchips or Velikovsky’s Worlds In Collisions theories just guessing. The scientific spin doctors must be on over drive to cover up whatever these paintings are really showing their lying as usual.
whatever they depict, none of them seemed to me depicting a picture from nature with animals etc. …
My first impression was abstract symbols conveying a “vistor’.
Trying to “capture” it’s significance.
Great observation in the hurried manner,
before memory erodes and/or is corrupted.
And for reflection, plus a record for later generations.
Now that we know about it, it seems prudent to always take depictions of plasma phenomena into consideration when examining ancient rock art, however one shouldn’t exclusively look there to explain odd depictions.
When I look at the fist picture above it strikes me as and ancient dry erase board. Maybe it’s a very convenient area of the cave to draw, and it was used over and over like a blackboard, previous markings having been rubbed out (faded) and drawn over. Perhaps they were working out their symbolism for diagrams for some knowledge or beliefs they held.
A caption to the pics in the article say that some of the pictures are astronomical symbols.
Here is a link that shows the similarities of the rock art stick figure with electrical discharge phenomena:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/arch/040915plasma-rock.htm
They look like other paintings found in Europe, images of which I’ve seen, variously thought to depict electrical discharge plasma phenomena, or visions seen in the early stages of, or during, a self induced altered state of consciousness.
Zeropoint,
My thoughts exactly. Hiding in the cave during a solar discharge and recording the eerie electrical light show that goes along with it… or possibly psilocybin mushroom doodling.
My last speculation would be a children’s birthday party and the entertainment, after eating the cake, was finger painting on the cave wall. Notice the birthday candles in the top right corner of the first picture.
the comments on the original Huff posting are just so dishearteningly stupid-
but what I find so amazing about the two shown paintings in Dr. Farrell’s posting is whether one concentrates on either the lighter or darker shadings- two different worlds-
in the first shown painting if one concentrates on the darker colors at the top center it looks like a bargain-basement, truncated Minorah- but then concentrate on the lighter shaded images in this center section surrounded by the the darker shade and one sees something totaly different-
am not sure these images were painted in haste-it could be they were very cleverly crafted even though it initially appears as if all these images were jammed together at the last moment- but were the ancients in the state of constant haste that modern society is?- I don’t know-
could it be these paintings are simply a recording of earlier man’s ability to see more dimensions than we are able to see anymore?- I don’t know- just a thought-
stay well Dr. Farrell and all- regards-
Larry