Last March I was contacted by a Ms. A.O., a producer-director for a Russian television channel who is based in the USA. She wanted to know if it would be alright for them to interview me on my research into Nazi secret weapons, the Bell, and possible implications of postwar Nazi survival. I said sure.

A couple of weeks later, a gentleman showed up at my little apartment, set up his equipment, and proceeded to ask me a series of questions prepared by Ms. A.O. and her production staff. I have to say, rarely have I ever encountered such a thorough list, nor such an in-depth list, of questions. It took fully two and a half hours to respond to them all, and I had the impression that the list of questions might have been prepared by a KGB colonel-general for a debriefing.

In any case, as I mentioned earlier in a tidbit, the interview was eventually aired on Russian television  on a program called Strannoe Delo, and I watched the program, largely clueless to what was being said (including myself), since my Russian, even in the best of times, was virtually non-existent, and now with the passage of years, is rusty on top of that. I have no idea what anyone is saying, including me, and for all I know, as I quipped before, I could be saying I believe in the tooth-fairy or Santa Claus.

Nonetheless, I watched with interest. There were clips and newsreel footage in the episode that were interesting. And then, at exactly 32:50 into the episode my jaw dropped. Here's the link:

Now, for those of you who don't know what you may be looking at, you may be looking at film of something that until now, has only existed in claims and schematics. Those familiar with the Nazi saucer legend will immediately know the possible significant of this clip. But for those who don't, permit me to bring them up to speed.

There are essentially two versions of the Nazi flying saucer mythos: (1) that the Nazis achieved some functional operational form of field propulsion during World War Two, the so-called Hannebu/Haunebu and Vril craft, an alleged picture of which occurs earlier in the Russian TV episode. This picture most researchers regard as a hoax, the present author included. The whole Hannebu/Haunbu and Vril field propulsion story, as I have tried to explain in my book Saucers, Swastikas, and Psyops, may be clever disinformation and indeed, a psyop, put out after World War Two. I simply do not give the story any credence.

(2) The second form of the mythos, however, is a bit more substantial. There are claims that the Nazis were attempting to build jet-turbine based flying disks, with vectored exhausts, during the war, in effect, a kind of odd helicopter with tremendous maneuver and speed capability. There is a bit more evidence for such projects, for oddly, one finds both American and Canadian firms and engineers designing such craft after the war, and indeed, there are the suggestive US patents of German engineer Fleissner, and the strong resemblance to the US Air Force's Project Silverbug, a design for precisely such a vectored jet flying saucer.

The claims, for those who know the story, is that such craft were first conceived and designed by various German engineers - usually the names Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe, and Schauberger are mentioned - and these claims are always accompanied by schematics, some of which I reproduce below:

Well, you get the idea of what ungainly (and probably vastly unstable) craft these would have been, had they ever been built.

That's the problem, for no photograph, much less film from the war, ever came forward to corroborate the existence of such contraptions.

...Until now.

For that few seconds in this Russian television episode, we are looking at a few frames of a craft, or rather, contraption, that bears a strong resemblance to the above schematics.

And if the film footage is genuine and from the war, it would be a find of the first order indeed, for it would be collaboration of a claim that has been around since a few years after the end of World War Two. The problem, of course, is that films, like pictures, can be faked...

And that raises many uncomfortable questions too: Who faked it? and why?

In trying to investigate this brief few seconds of footage, I discovered that it first appeared in a VHS tape, later a DVD, put out by some group in Europe which is billing itself as "New Templars," which raises my suspicions that the origins may be Neo-Nazi. This raises the prospects both of fakery (such would be relatively easy to do with a modest production budget and access to studios in, perhaps, Vienna or Paris), or that, indeed, such a group may have had access to genuine archival footage not widely seen.

For the moment, folks, I reserve judgement on this one, while inclining just ever so slightly to the view that this might, in fact, be a genuine bit of film footage. Which raises its own odd questions: Why would Russian television leak such priceless footage?

Well, one thing that crossed my mind is that it is the perfect way to send a message: "we have some pretty sophisticated stuff too... (or do we?)."

Regardless of where you stand on this one - film fakery or the genuine article - the questions raised by each possibility are equally disturbing.

See you on the flip side.

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Ellirium113 on June 13, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    Not a rare clip at all…in fact a clip from this Russian movie…

    5:11 into this clip you will see your rare video.

    • henry on June 13, 2013 at 9:49 pm

      “Not a rare clip at all…in fact a clip from this Russian movie…”

      exactly, and the Russians have made a movie themed on secret Nazi UFO project in when? 2008? if the Nazis had been truly defeated in WW2, as a major victor, shouldn’t be the Russians exploring that part of Nazi history way earlier?

      “One does have to wonder about the meaning and timing of this special. I for one do not believe in coincidence where this stuff is concerned. Russians are master chess players.”
      I agree with this reader here, the timing the Russians choose to introduce Dr.Farrell to the story is perhaps not a coincidence. do you think the Russians flew all the way to America with “a list of questions might have been prepared by a KGB colonel-general for a debriefing” simply to linger on the typical Nazi UFO mythos? and guess which part of research by Dr.Farrell unnerves (so much so Dr.Farrell actually had unpleasant encounters due to his different views) some people from “the UFO community” who would rather stick to those mythos? can one say something shaped like a bell?

      Considering Dr.Farrell’s observation is far more meticulous than other explanations for certain post-war UFO phenomenon, for example David Wilcock who claims those Roswell beings were “friendly ETs” but were mistreated by the U.S. and they went to the Chinese?? Little wonder Richard Hoagland “complained” about Wilcock relying too much on his “insider informations” without even taking into account of other independent scholarly study which is much more tangible and reliable, meaning it’s unlikely the U.S. military and government would had “exposed” the history of Nazi UFOs if the Nazis actually survived the war, and one can “quadruple” that odds if a german-speaking UFO occupant can “predict” the outcome of America’s satellite program in 1957, and “the message” was conveyed by a German-American whose linguistic ability essentially “helped” the American authority to realize these were “German-speaking” UFOs. What are they going to tell the American public? that the Nazis not only survived but were flying around over American airspace in flying saucers, and they just know little too much about America’s top notch scientific endeavour since they have probably already “infiltrated” sensitive parts of the country? I reckon the Russians are not exactly like the Americans in that regard, nonetheless they probably shared the similar embarrassment.I suppose back in the 50s and 60s, Nazi UFOs were anything but “history”,for the Russians and Americans alike.

      Let’s fastforward time to 2113, do we expect to watch the same 2008 made Russian movie on the history of Nazi UFOs which focused only on the “vastly unstable” jet-turbine design? Or can we expect the secret of Nazi bell to be a “public knowledge” in the future since people by then could be travelling to Mars on anti-gravity space vehicles based on torsion physics “first” devised by a Nazi program called the bell? Maybe we can adjust the time for that day, but eventually what used to be “secret history” could become just “history”.
      And if that day indeed comes, either the Nazis have completely dominated earth and its people so they could openly celebrating their historical achievements by making replicas of the Nazi bell in museums covered with seas of Nazi swastikas,and the visitors will probably “look all the same”; or at some point in history, the Nazis and their menacing spaceships were somehow “neutralized”, hence “secret” lost its purpose to remain “secret”.

      Speaking of “timing” and “rare footages”, i don’t think that “Pyramid shaped UFO” hovering over Kremlin in late 2009 was crewed by “German-speaking” occupants who still use Arabic and Roman numerals, otherwise they wouldn’t have wasted their time over the Chinese airspace in the following year, a country just happens to be Russia’s “BRICS partner”. But i guess that belongs to the question of “what about the ones aren’t the Nazis out there?”. wish to watch the english subtitled version of this Russian film, somehow i feel its quite “significant”.

      • Ellirium113 on June 14, 2013 at 3:18 pm

        Having looked into this for a good many years I am still struggling with writing Nazi UFOs off as a myth. There is as Dr. Farrell points out 2 distinct divisions in these craft:

        1) Lenticular jet turbine style which if ever did exist could never operate outside of of the planet’s atmosphere so any claim to space travel with these vehicles can assuredly be written off. Avro Canada tried to build one of these craft (Project 1794) for what purpose if there was no existing comparable craft?

        2) More exotic electro-gravitic craft which are the supposed space capable craft. In my mind if these craft really existed they went “black” and remain classified.

        In looking into the Nazi UFOs I also observed that there are corroborations of Scientists, and other associated hardware of these craft that we can see in use today such as the alleged Victalen armor which today is called “FROZEN SMOKE” (Aerogel). I continue to collect scraps of information…hopefully in time we may discover the truth. For anyone interested I have been compiling information on this subject on Pegasus Research Consortium forum and invite everyone to go check it out (Registration Required):

        My collection is here:

        • Joseph P. Farrell on June 14, 2013 at 3:22 pm

          You’re definitely on to something with that corroboration-=of-scientists approach, imo, Ellirium. I have encountered the SAME phenomenon and it does raise the bar considerably!

  2. rich overholt on June 12, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    ” I don’t know if you’ve been keepin up with current events, but we just got our butts kicked pal. ” ~ Hudson ( played by Bill Paxton ), from , “Aliens”.

  3. DownunderET on June 12, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    Well we know the Russians didn’t get the Bell, and considering the photo of the craft on a trailer being towed into a hanger, which looks quite convincing, it doesn’t prove the Russians got a hold of it.

    Maybe the only got the film ??????

    Yes, the direction and purpose of the film isn’t clear because most of us don’t speak Russkeee, so we are in the dark.

    If the Russkkeees have what Lockheed have (Ben Rich), then all this conjecture of WW2 flying whatchamacallits, then all this is academic.

  4. henry on June 12, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    I wish there is an English version so one can make a better assessment out of this Russian documentary.

    But my first impression is, if a Russian film that’s investigating the history and technology of UFOs by the Nazis, tries to add certain credential to the story by inserting rare footage of jet-turbine based flying disks which is one of the types of Nazi design for disk shaped crafts besides the so called Hannebu and Vril type. With exposure to Dr.Farrell’s research on the subject who has argued the “Vril” is but a post-war Nazi myth, while the jet-turbine based flying disks are more “substantial” but in application also “vastly unstable”. In other words, both the Hannebu/Vril and jet-turbine types could not fully explain those post-war UFOs staffed by German speaking crews like the one Reinhold.Schmidt encountered which record similar features that resemble the Nazi bell, and the “torsion physics” behind the Nazi bell could be utilized to:1) free energy; 2) anti gravity propulsion; 3) planet busting weapons.

    Clearly the Russians know something about Nazi UFOs, enough to make someone who is well-versed in the subject to drop his jaw. Now that the Russians have opened the pandora’s box by introducing Dr.Farrell to the story, people following the trail would find out that as far as disked shaped flying crafts are concerned, there’s something more “substantial” than the typical mythos, and eventually they would also realize oil is a scam.

    Like the “multifunctional” Nazi bell, i suspect blowing this lid off will have a ramification far beyond the study of Nazi UFOs.

  5. Jon on June 12, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    I noticed that when I watched the special after your earlier post with the link. Although I speak almost no Russian ( few basic words and a song by Yoko Kanno), it was fun to try and get the idea of the flow of the program and catch a few words here and there. I briefly toyed with the idea of sending the linnk to someone I know who speaks it fluently, but have been too busy.

    Given what we do know about Nazi weapons development and how they have been able to convince the world that the factory at Auschwitz was for making synthetic rubber (which it never actually did), and with the massive secrecy around the Bell, I don’t find it beyond the realm of possibility that they developed some sort of beginning to field propulsion. I have good reason to believe that they were working on it (can’t say more).

    I do believe strongly that they had at least some working prototypes of suction type saucers, given what you and people like Henry Stevens and Witkowski have been able to document. the Schauberger story alone is fairly strong evidence pointing in that direction (although sadly, not proof).

    Unfortunately, photos and video are no longer proof of anything. Indeed, in an article in 1980 in Coevolution Quarterly, Stewart Brand demonstrated quite clearly that his title, “The End of Photographs As Evidence of Anything,” was our new reality.

    He was dealing with just very expensive machines from Chromacom and Scitex, but they were already in heavy use in the magazine and PR industry. Now we have far more advanced capabilities available to anyone who can afford a good gaming computer.

    So, while it could be real, and some of the shots do seem quite real, we simply cannot trust our eyes in this matter.

    We must remember, however the effect of the ME 262 at the end of the war, and reaction of the military suspecting that the Roswell crash “looked German.” They were very much ahead of the Allies in many areas of science and technology, and a small run of prototype saucers is not beyond reason.

    And, as you have pointed out, there are “threshold” effects in technology and science research, where one breakthrough can spawn an explosion of massive advances in a avery short time.

    One does have to wonder about the meaning and timing of this special. I for one do not believe in coincidence where this stuff is concerned. Russians are master chess players.

    • Jon on June 12, 2013 at 9:22 pm

      “a very short time.”

  6. Solfeggio on June 12, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    Is your sweater suggesting anything subtle Mr. Farrell? Certain Runes come to mind.

  7. marcos toledo on June 12, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    Could this documentary be a shoot across the bow of the Anglo-American ELITES we have or know about this technology and we watching you.

  8. LSM on June 12, 2013 at 11:16 am

    thanks so much for posting this, Dr. Farrell- greatly appreciated-

    but I think the questions we need to ask ourselves are:

    1) who provided the film footages to begin with for the US-based film team (US, Russian or other sources)?-

    2) whoever provided the sources, from where did THEY accrue the film footages?- they’re hardly in the public domain-

    until now there’s been such a dearth of info about N***i advanced technologies until you Dr. Farrell, Witkowski, etc. appeared on the scene and drammatically changed the plot of the staged Allied Legend farce-

    I think you’ve raised many valid questions, Dr. Farrell- but far be it from me to have the answers-

    but I think we must never rule out human error; not everyone deeply “in the know” manages to catch everything and it could be the significance of this 2-sec. bombshell just flew over Russian heads as so much “weird stuff” had already been spllced, film-edited-

    please stay well Dr. Farrell and readers- regards-


    but maybe the Russians

    • LSM on June 12, 2013 at 11:19 am

      oops!- forget the bit “but maybe the Russians”- I was splicing/editing my own posting but forgot to erase the trailer 🙂

  9. Andrew on June 12, 2013 at 10:22 am

    This is the documentary I believe dr Farrell is referring to. But on the off chance it’s not Dr Farrell you may just want to check it out. I’m sure others will be keen though.
    If anyone knows of a better quality version please let me know!

  10. jkingqm on June 12, 2013 at 7:45 am


  11. p on June 12, 2013 at 7:30 am

    I doubt that a serious leak (intended as a message) would be a 2-second clip tucked away half an hour into a documentary..

  12. QuietRiot on June 12, 2013 at 6:54 am

    I like the way your name is spelled in Russian!

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