RUMINATIONS ON MY TV APPEARANCE ON RUSSIAN TV: NAZIS, SAUCERS, AND ...June 12, 2013
Last March I was contacted by a Ms. A.O., a producer-director for a Russian television channel who is based in the USA. She wanted to know if it would be alright for them to interview me on my research into Nazi secret weapons, the Bell, and possible implications of postwar Nazi survival. I said sure.
A couple of weeks later, a gentleman showed up at my little apartment, set up his equipment, and proceeded to ask me a series of questions prepared by Ms. A.O. and her production staff. I have to say, rarely have I ever encountered such a thorough list, nor such an in-depth list, of questions. It took fully two and a half hours to respond to them all, and I had the impression that the list of questions might have been prepared by a KGB colonel-general for a debriefing.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier in a tidbit, the interview was eventually aired on Russian television on a program called Strannoe Delo, and I watched the program, largely clueless to what was being said (including myself), since my Russian, even in the best of times, was virtually non-existent, and now with the passage of years, is rusty on top of that. I have no idea what anyone is saying, including me, and for all I know, as I quipped before, I could be saying I believe in the tooth-fairy or Santa Claus.
Nonetheless, I watched with interest. There were clips and newsreel footage in the episode that were interesting. And then, at exactly 32:50 into the episode my jaw dropped. Here's the link:
Now, for those of you who don't know what you may be looking at, you may be looking at film of something that until now, has only existed in claims and schematics. Those familiar with the Nazi saucer legend will immediately know the possible significant of this clip. But for those who don't, permit me to bring them up to speed.
There are essentially two versions of the Nazi flying saucer mythos: (1) that the Nazis achieved some functional operational form of field propulsion during World War Two, the so-called Hannebu/Haunebu and Vril craft, an alleged picture of which occurs earlier in the Russian TV episode. This picture most researchers regard as a hoax, the present author included. The whole Hannebu/Haunbu and Vril field propulsion story, as I have tried to explain in my book Saucers, Swastikas, and Psyops, may be clever disinformation and indeed, a psyop, put out after World War Two. I simply do not give the story any credence.
(2) The second form of the mythos, however, is a bit more substantial. There are claims that the Nazis were attempting to build jet-turbine based flying disks, with vectored exhausts, during the war, in effect, a kind of odd helicopter with tremendous maneuver and speed capability. There is a bit more evidence for such projects, for oddly, one finds both American and Canadian firms and engineers designing such craft after the war, and indeed, there are the suggestive US patents of German engineer Fleissner, and the strong resemblance to the US Air Force's Project Silverbug, a design for precisely such a vectored jet flying saucer.
The claims, for those who know the story, is that such craft were first conceived and designed by various German engineers - usually the names Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe, and Schauberger are mentioned - and these claims are always accompanied by schematics, some of which I reproduce below:
Well, you get the idea of what ungainly (and probably vastly unstable) craft these would have been, had they ever been built.
That's the problem, for no photograph, much less film from the war, ever came forward to corroborate the existence of such contraptions.
For that few seconds in this Russian television episode, we are looking at a few frames of a craft, or rather, contraption, that bears a strong resemblance to the above schematics.
And if the film footage is genuine and from the war, it would be a find of the first order indeed, for it would be collaboration of a claim that has been around since a few years after the end of World War Two. The problem, of course, is that films, like pictures, can be faked...
And that raises many uncomfortable questions too: Who faked it? and why?
In trying to investigate this brief few seconds of footage, I discovered that it first appeared in a VHS tape, later a DVD, put out by some group in Europe which is billing itself as "New Templars," which raises my suspicions that the origins may be Neo-Nazi. This raises the prospects both of fakery (such would be relatively easy to do with a modest production budget and access to studios in, perhaps, Vienna or Paris), or that, indeed, such a group may have had access to genuine archival footage not widely seen.
For the moment, folks, I reserve judgement on this one, while inclining just ever so slightly to the view that this might, in fact, be a genuine bit of film footage. Which raises its own odd questions: Why would Russian television leak such priceless footage?
Well, one thing that crossed my mind is that it is the perfect way to send a message: "we have some pretty sophisticated stuff too... (or do we?)."
Regardless of where you stand on this one - film fakery or the genuine article - the questions raised by each possibility are equally disturbing.
See you on the flip side.