Well it was bound to happen sooner or later. The United Kingdom's The Guardian newspaper, which first broke the Ed Snowden/NSA affair, is now reporting that officials of various European powers and nations are "concerned" over whether or not the NSA is listening into them. Their concerns are justified, for an agency "data mining" (the older and more correct term is spying) on all of its own citizens in contravention of the spirit of its laws and constitution won't hesitate to spy on everyone else ...woops, I mean, "mine data" on everyone else as well.

World leaders seek answers on US collection of communication data

Now, note it's not just Europe, but Canada and other nations as well, that are expressing their "concern". Of course, close reading of the article will reveal that it isn't so much concern over whether or not the USA is snooping on Europeans (and everyone else, and it is), and collecting financially beneficial data as a result of said snooping, but also snooping on other oligarchs. After all, it's ok to video camera Mr. Average John Bull and read his email as he goes about his daily business in Nottingham, but one must not read the Queen's email.

I've been predicting for some time that the constant American meddling in other nations via its extensive covert operations apparatus, particularly in those nations along the periphery of Russia, would inevitably provoke a propaganda, and then a covert operations backlash, against the USA, a backlash capitalizing on the increasing discontent and growing mistrust among the American and other western populations. It will be all smiles and photo-ops as Mr. B.O. seeks to defend his administration and its policies in Europe, but rest assured, behind the scenes, it will be ugly, and with the trust in the USA eroding at an alarming rate, those hidden glowers, scowls, and frowns are only going to increase.

Then there is another factor: the growing activism of the BRICSA nations themselves.

Last week I noted that Russia was already talking about the possibility of granting Mr. Snowden asylum, and now, it's Beijing that's quietly floating the same balloon:

Edward Snowden: US-China relations tested as extradition battle looms

If it's not clear by now, the "war on terror" as practiced by the Bushnoids and Obamatards is costing America dearly in terms of its international relations. Sadly, few in Washington are learning the lessons. There was once another power with intelligence fingers in almost every nook and cranny of the known medieval world, from  London to Mongolia, intelligence fingers that were there to protect its far flung commercial empire.  In the course of its checkered history, that republic - in reality an oligarchical plutocracy - managed to get all of its neighbors so angry at it that they decided it was time to lance the boil. They weren't successful (a fellow by the name of Bonaparte finally lanced the boil); but it was never able to recover. That republic is now no more.

Its name was Venice. The city still stands, a reminder of the financial and geopolitical folly of unckecked oligarchical corruption. It's a lesson that must be learned, and learned quickly.

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Robert Barricklow on June 20, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Interesting article that ties into this “spying”.

    “Skynet Rising:
    Google aquires 512-qubit quantum computer…”

  2. Robert Barricklow on June 20, 2013 at 8:32 am

    The Max Keiser Report E460 opens with a UFO sighting on the show. The Alien theme then runs through the show into the 2nd with references to Australia’s slow bleed.

  3. DownunderET on June 19, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    So everybody is spying on everybody else, so what’s new?
    The only thing I can think of now is the ramifications, in other words whoever is pissed off, are they going to take steps to stop it.

    The US has been caught with it’s pants down, but I’m sure some other country will eventually be caught the same way, oh no, not another whistleblower, et al.

    The reality is that it isn’t going to stop any time soon, but it’s the financial snooping that interests me. And I still think that some country will “expose” this hidden system of finance that the Anglo-American three letter agencies have, and THAT is the BIG ONE!!!

  4. amunaor on June 19, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Thanks to the mountain of revelations, we all know that the hub for the Nazi International resides in Langley, Maryland, established through Operation Paperclip, whose head was modeled by its Mentor: Reinhard Gehlen, the actual father of the CIA.

    Once Edward Snowden becomes a political exile, how long after before his extradition is sought utilizing the US’s favorite extrication tool: sex crimes, or will he too, like Eliot Spitzer, be bribed with a high dollar seat in front corporate CNN propaganda cameras?

    But then again, as LSM (Larry in Germany) surmises below, we don’t really who, or what Snowden is. How can we be certain of anything anymore? For all we know, he could be a CIA provocateur, set in motion to fan the flames of BIGGER intentions.

    • amunaor on June 19, 2013 at 2:25 pm


      What a slip! That should be: Langley, Virginia. Sorry Maryland. 8-()

  5. marcos toledo on June 19, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    The real problem is neither the whole Western Hemisphere or Australia are or have ever been independent entities. They all to a greater or lesser extent do the biding of their masters whether on Wall Street or Europe convent patsies to fall on their swords when given their orders. To paraphrase Casablanca we’re shocked to hear of spying by the CIA-NSA here your report sir on USA corporate, military, financial thank you.

    • Robert Barricklow on June 19, 2013 at 12:35 pm

      Great analogy!

  6. Sagnacity on June 19, 2013 at 9:11 am

    Well actually an American, who spends much time in Brazil, who works as a blogger for the Guardian in the US broke the story. So a blogged column was the big break out story.

    Not like we didn’t all suspect this spying was going on, it’s what Senator Obama helped to pass in the fall of 2008. Can’t imagine it’s really news to say Russia or China or for that matter Canada

    • SynchroMystic on June 19, 2013 at 9:03 pm

      I agree, its definitely not news to China or Russia, but now that its public they can use it to their advantage.

  7. henry on June 19, 2013 at 8:18 am

    One baffling piece of recent history is former ALP leader Mark Latham who denounced George W Bush as “the most incompetent and dangerous president in living memory” was given rarest privileges available to leaders in the alliance with the US – a visit to the top secret Pine Gap spy facility near Alice Springs. Later, Mr Latham emerged from briefings to declare that the facility is “overwhelmingly in the national interest”, even if it is involved in the missile defence shield he and the Labor Party oppose.
    So the Australian leader gets a rare opportunity to visit top-secret facility at Pine Gap in 2004 by denouncing the US leader?? As if that’s not odd enough, Mr Latham claims the facility is “overwhelmingly in the national interest”, except the “missile defence shield” which he and the Labor Party oppose.
    The latter case is even more odd consider in “The Latham Diaries”(published in 2005) Mr Latham writes:”The truth is, the Americans need us more than we need them. Pine Gap is vital to their international security network. Plus the Americans restrict our capacity to trade and integrate with Asia- one day their trouble with China will be our trouble. Politically, why does the Alliance survive? Because a significant number of Australians still think we need an insurance policy against invasion by Indonesia, that’s why. Poor old Indonesia. They can barely govern themselves these days, let alone invade us.The Alliance is the last manifestation of the White Australia mentality.Sacrificing Australian pride and independence-and our national interests,properly defined-for the safety blanket of great and powerful friends.”,completely contradictory to his public statements about Pine Gap.
    The “missile defence shield”,called “Son of Star Wars”, according to Mr Latham who had just visited Pine Gap,”gives rise to a whole range of concerns about missile proliferation in the region and for that reason it is not something that the Labor Party supports.”

    I’d like to make an observation here, just before Edward Snowden appeared in Hong Kong, the leaders of America and China met at Annenberg Estate in California amid accusations of hacking by China, and just before the meeting, America was making more serious hacking accusation by claiming China was hacking its advanced weapon systems, which was echoed simultaneously by Australia accusing China of hacking its ASIO blueprints(with the Labor PM calling media’s report “inaccurate”).The event also recalls the case with Huawei,the Chinese telecommunications company that was banned by both America and Australia for “cyber espionage”.
    Former Australian foreign minister, Alexander Downer, now sits on Huawei’s Australian board, says “Huawei operated in 100 countries and had been in Australia since 2004 and any concerns about it being involved in cyber warfare were absurd. This is a company doing an astonishingly good job in terms of providing telecommunications to a world hungry for improved telecommunications.” Malcolm Turnbull, Australia’s shadow minister for communications and broadband also expressed he would review Huawei’s case if his party is elected. In short, Australia today is caught between the rivalries between the two superpowers, precisely the kind of situation described by former ALP leader Mark Latham:”their trouble with China will be our trouble.”

    Now with NSA whistleblower Snowden telling “The South China Morning Post” that the U.S. has been hacking Hong Kong and mainland targets for years,with companies like Google and Facebook been dragged into the surveillance scandal(which has caused the Chinese netizens to debate whether the “filter” of these companies by the government was a correct call or not), especially with countries like Germany and Japan are also asking for explanation, the ongoing Sino-American “cyber war” has experienced a “turning of the tide” moment all because of Edward Snowden.

    But what’s beneath the tip of the iceberg? What could be the “Pine Gap” connection given Australia is intimately involved in this ongoing saga?
    As mentioned by Michael Salla’s article “China US trade imbalance: bad policy or payback for CIA use of stolen WWII gold” at,
    “Guyatt cites Sterling Seagrave, author of the Marco Dynasty, that as Philippines President (1965-1986), Marcos secured “… large loans using as collateral gold bullion that he was as yet unable to get out of the Philippines.” Most importantly, Guyatt reveals that “the CIA was actively participating in laundering Marcos bullion.” The CIA’s involvement was directly related to funding covert operations in a network of global locations using looted Chinese/Asian gold. One of the numerous CIA front companies and banks did just that according to Guyatt:
    In addition to laundering drug money on behalf of its owners, the CIA, Nugan Hand Bank is believed to have been heavily involved in the transfer of large quantities of so-called “Marcos” gold flown by CIA pilots from Clark AFB in the Philippines to the secret US Pine Gap facility located at Alice Springs, Australia.
    Pine Gap is a secretive U.S. facility in the center of Australia that is a hub for many highly classified projects by the NSA, CIA and U.S. military. Undoubtedly, much of the black gold arriving in Pine Gap would have been used for funding the base and its covert projects for many years without any oversight by the U.S. or Australian governments.”
    apparently the NSA has informations regarding: 1)”the stolen gold”;2)”highly classified projects” at Pine Gap Australia, reason enough for the Chinese to be interested in a NSA agent. Perhaps the question is not whether Snowden knows anything about Pine Gap or not, but whether his act was alone or not?

    According to Snowden, “leaving the US was an incredible risk, as NSA employees must declare their foreign travel 30 days in advance and are monitored”, meaning there is a possibility that he actually got help from higher authority within the NSA.
    But there could be another layer to his story, it seems “coincidental” to me that Snowden is a NSA agent from Hawaii because “the Chinese freemasons” (AKA Hongmen) has headquarters in Honolulu,and incidentally it has a strong connection with Hong Kong. Given that, in “China and the Great Crash, Joseph P. Farrell on The Byte Show”, Dr.Farrell mentions the powerful Li clan of HongKong,(their historical association with Chinese government and finance, and with the Hongmen) together with Dr.David Li’s Gaussian copula formula, that amounts to “economic warfare”, which corroborates Benjamin fulford’s report, that “knowing that the Western elites want to reduce world population by 90%, the Asians engineered the financial crisis as countermeasure”, not to mention Fulford’s protected by the Hongmen. Hence, my suspicion is Snowden’s choice of Hong Kong as asylum is perhaps not an accident.
    However there is another thing involves Honolulu that’s worth mentioning,the 1st “U.S.-China Asia Pacific Consultations” was held in Honolulu in 2011, with former assistant Secretary of State Kurt Campbell represents the such talks. According to Benjamin fulford:”US Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell, acting as an envoy for Rockefeller, met with Japanese power broker Ichiro Ozawa on March 9th, two days before the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear disaster hit Japan…The cowardly Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan handed 60 trillion yen over to the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate immediately after his country was attacked with HAARP and nuclear terror, according to Japanese security police sources. The extortion money was paid off following threats to use HAARP to cause Mt. Fuji to erupt.” so basically, Campbell acts on behalf of those who have the access to technologies that are capable of creating artificial disasters. One of the reason i find that report is credible is due the evidences i gathered in my post from gizadeathstar’s blog titled “NASA, ASTEROIDS, AND DEATH STARS”, especially after looking at the phenomenon occured at Sakurajima, those technologies must have a highly classified place as their base of operations. Now jumping back to Mark Latham who has actually been to Pine Gap, two things come to mind, 1) “Son of Star Wars”(whatever it is) will affect the region i.e, Asia-Pacific; 2)”one day their trouble with China will be our trouble”.
    I suspect Edward Snowden’s case may have deeper layers to it, apart from the surveillance scandal. It seems to me this is a carefully coordinated effort.But what intrigues me the most is “what exactly is “son of star wars”?

      • LSM on June 20, 2013 at 8:06 am

        Hi henry- many thanks for posted links- very appreciated-

        but Iceland is one of the most vulnerable countries in the world; a population of only ca. 340k (but I’ve worked with 4 Icelandics- incredibly sweet, intelligent and incredibly well-educated people), it’s continued existence is determined by the Gulf Stream (or what’s left of it thanks to Deepwater Horizon) and it’s financial ability to import just about everything; the only ‘home-grown’ food sources in Iceland are fish and lamb-

        so why would Snowden (or his handlers- or if ‘Snowdon’ is actually a group) choose one of the most vulnerable, un-populated nations (where everyone sticks out like a sore thumb- 2 of my former 4 co-workers are cousins) in the world for asylum?- it just makes no sense to me

        • henry on June 21, 2013 at 12:22 am

          It’s actually Mr Putin who offered asylum to Snowden first on RT, then RT had Julian Assange on telling Snowden “to consider a plan”. It seems the intermediary in touch with Icelandic government for Snowden are from Wikileaks, so if Snowden’s next stop is Iceland, i would expect the Russians to back him up the way they are backing the Ecuadorians, where Assange’s sought asylum in their embassy in London.
          And Iceland and China are getting really close, here’s RT’s report on it,”Icelandic trade alliance advances Chinese Arctic ambition”.
          With possible Russian and Chinese influence in Iceland, Snowden’s choice of Iceland seems further indicative of “BRICS” involvement. Besides he has to leave Hong Kong sooner or later to avoid accusation of treason, despite he said earlier he would stay in Hong Kong as long as the city allows him to stay.

          Plus i think there are already signs in America, that people within the NSA would back Snowden up, they may put pressures on those who want to go after him.I notice one of the former NSA official used the phrase “the government in secret”, I almost took it as some kind of “warning”, but the most remarkable thing for me is they have a attorney with them on the program, who happens to be a whistleblower at the Justice Department.And the other NSA guy essentially said “we should prosecute Snowden for being a traitor, but the same should be done with the President, vice President, NSA chiefs etc from the former administration”, in other words, they are all “traitors”.

          • LSM on June 21, 2013 at 9:35 am

            “With possible Russian and Chinese influence in Iceland”- this could be true- what other choice do Icelandics have?- the Gulf Stream (which gives life to Iceland) has been severly influenced by the Deepwater Horizon disaster and the subsequent spraying of Corexit into the waters (if my read sources are correct) so I hardly think the Icelandics can depend on the US for help of any kind (the US can’t help itself let alone a foreign entity)- therefore they’re looking for a miracle of some kind- enter Russia/China-

            “in other words, they are all “traitors”- you know it- the US leaves such countries like Greece and Italy in the dust as far as corruption goes- every single president since Kennedy (and many before him; just start with Woodrow Wilson) was a traitor-

            stay well- regards-


    • LSM on June 19, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      wow, henry, you’ve provided a lot of great food for thought but I just have a few thoughts about your posting-

      if my read info is correct Pine Gap is just a mega-echo of Area 51 in New Mexico-

      “the leaders of America and China met at Annenberg Estate in California amid accusations of hacking by China”- Gary McKinnon stated he was the least important person to have hacked the Pentagon’s computer system; “even the Chinese were in there”-

      “the U.S. has been hacking Hong Kong and mainland targets for years”- I’d bet the Chinese have the upper hand; China has always been ahead of the west- look at world history-

      “the ongoing Sino-American “cyber war” has experienced a “turning of the tide” moment all because of Edward Snowden”- wait a sec- we have no proof whatsoever that Snowden was just one individual or a group under one contrived family name/photo-

      “not to mention Fulford’s protected by the Hongmen”- I’m still in the dark about who is protecting BF and this comment continues to further leave me in the dust- so are the ‘Hongmen’ (“White Dragon Society,” formerly known as “Black Dragon Society”- why suddenly the change of color?)? according to your sources (opinion?) benevolent or malevolent?- am just asking-

      “I suspect Edward Snowden’s case may have deeper layers to it”- no shit Sherlock-

      “It seems to me this is a carefully coordinated effort”- you know it- which is why I continue to think that whoever/whatever was behind the Snowden concept will not house him/them within their own borders; safest country in the world where no-one will ever ask any questions (well, as long as one is incredibly solvent) is Switzerland-

      stay well-


      • henry on June 21, 2013 at 12:07 am

        “the leaders of America and China met at Annenberg Estate in California amid accusations of hacking by China”- Gary McKinnon stated he was the least important person to have hacked the Pentagon’s computer system; “even the Chinese were in there”-

        Exactly, i didn’t say China doesn’t “hack” the U.S. On the contrary, as far as Gary McKinnon’s case is concerned, “disclosure” was one of the motivation for him to hack into the Pentagonia in the first place, and look at what the guy discovered,”Solar Warden”! I don’t know about you, but “space fleet” sounds little “Star Wars-ish” to me. And, if it has anything to do with the “Star Wars-ish” sounding “missile defence shield” which “is vital to their international security network” at Pine Gap Australia, that ultimately involves “trouble with China” as wrote by former ALP leader Mark Latham, which is all the more reason for me to believe that the Chinese could be indeed “hacking” the Pentagonia.
        And again, the real question for me is, “What exactly is Son of Star Wars”, and for that matter “Star Wars”?
        Ofcourse “Star Wars” was initiated by President Reagan, and as far as i’m concerned he can contest Mark Latham for “What’s odd?” award for certain remarks of his like, at the 42nd General Assembly of the UN in 1987:
        “In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us realize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, IS NOT AN ALIEN FORCE ALREADY AMONG US?”;
        and from a speech with President Gorbachev, in 1988:
        “I occasionally think how quickly our differences, worldwide, would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world”.

        Let’s not forget Wernher von Braun’s prediction for America’s future enemies, first the commies/Russian, then terrorists, “nations of concern”, asteroids and finally aliens. I don’t know about you, but Chelyabinsk and all those “Chelyabinsk-like” meteor barrage we’ve seen this year seems to me fit von Braun’s “asteroids” scenario nicely. So, does that mean we can expect the “aliens” to show up at any moment now?
        And guess who started “War on terror”? who ordered the setting up of “Son of Star Wars” at Pine Gap Australia? who was the president in office when the WTC twin towers(with shitload of gold stashed underneath) was hit? who was the president in office that initiated all the “spying” program in light of “the terrorist attack”, that a guy named Edward Snowden just caused a “blowback” to it?

        That’s why i still incline to think what we are witnessing now with the “Snowden” case, could be a “turning of the tide” moment.
        I was thinking along the line of “hidden system of finance” and “Manhattan project on steroids”, that’s why the sequel to “Cover Wars and Breakaway Civilizations” is the most anticipated book for me right now. And one can thank George Lucas too for my interest in Pine Gap.

        • LSM on June 21, 2013 at 9:01 am

          many thanks for your feedback, henry- I always appreciate, respect your viewpoints/info which is why I choose to comment on them-

          “I don’t know about you, but “space fleet” sounds little “Star Wars-ish” to me”- and to me also- I’m not as stupid as I look-

          “Let’s not forget Wernher von Braun’s prediction for America’s future enemies”- who can forget THIS?- but most choose to ignore it-

          “And guess who started “War on terror”? who ordered the setting up of “Son of Star Wars” at Pine Gap Australia? who was the president in office when the WTC twin towers(with shitload of gold stashed underneath) was hit?”- let me guess- a member of the Scherf(f?) family?- if you’re not yet aware of the name Scherf(f) behind the Bushes let me know and I’ll try to provide links- this is just so hideous-

          “And one can thank George Lucas too for my interest in Pine Gap”- could you please provide a link proving GL’s awareness of Pine Gap?- would interest me greatly- many thanks in advance-

          Australia, because of its vast, uninhabitable “out back” is/must’ve always been a haven for many clandestine activities simply because it’s just so inaccessible to the average person-

          and could you please clarify for what the abbreviation ALP stands?- I’m still in the dark about this one-

          stay well henry- regards-


    • Tim H on June 19, 2013 at 5:25 pm

      Very interesting Henry. I had no idea Mark Latham had been given the Pine Gap tour. What a mysterious place. “Son of Star Wars” indeed.

  8. Frankie Calcutta on June 19, 2013 at 7:50 am

    Arming and abetting cannibals to overthrow the Syrian government isn’t helping US public relations either.

    Regarding covert operations backlash, I wonder if the insurrection in Turkey has been fomented by the KGB and if Egypt and maybe even France and Saudi Arabia will follow?

    I also wonder if the Vatican was under NSA surveillance looking for BRICSA agents. One of these days I anticipate Pope Francis to denounce the genocide of Syrian Christians at the hands of these cannibal death death squads and then the clash of the yahwehists will really take a turn. It might force the neo-cons in the US to activate the American zionist “christian” wahabi-ists on the Pope and American Catholics in an attempt to duplicate the sectarian violence they fomented between muslims. Maybe even more drastic measures will have to be taken against the Vatican.

    I was also always curious as to how old Napoleon fit into all this. I could never quite figure out if he was an unexpected supernova over turning the bankster’s European apple cart, or if he was borrowing money from them as well. Maybe the entire Napoleonic era was a feud between rival banksters: Hamburg versus London? Or was Napoleon the champion of a non-illuminati masonic movement to liberate Europe from the bloodlines and banksters? If he had won at Waterloo, would the London banksters have been squashed for all eternity? Hopefully there will be some answers in the Babylon Bankster sequels.

  9. LSM on June 19, 2013 at 6:10 am

    great insights as always, Dr. Farrell- but any MSM media posting of Snowden’s possible whereabouts has to be a red herring-

    I found the Jon Rappaport article to be very enlightening (and thanks for posting the link)- BUT:

    we have no idea who ‘Snowden’ really is, despite published photo as a singular entity we have no idea whatsoever if this man is real (or if it’s a group of individuals)-

    and assuming the concept “Snowden” is an internal war of some sort my gut feeling is the man/men has/have sought asylum right under our noses in a country that (to my knowledge- but please inform if my knowledge is incorrect) has no extradition treaties whatsoever because of it’s bogus neutrality (and we’re always being told to look in the wrong direction and to believe “bigger is better”/more powerful):


    I realise this is mega “high octane speculation” on my part but I can’t stress enough that my gut feeling tells me all of the important background action is not taking place in huge land-massed countries but in the tinier places-

    make of my viewpoint what you will-

    please take care all- regards-

    Larry in Germany

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