THE RECENT SNOOPING SCANDALS: GERMANY MOST SNOOPED COUNTRY IN EU
Amid all the recent news about IRS pressures on conservative political groups in the USA, and the more recent NSA-Snowden leaks affair, there's an interesting bit of news several of you shared with me, and it deserves some commentary. The news concerns the fact that the USA, in its spying on its various European allies (no surprise there, they spy on us too), most of its attention seems to be focused on - surprise surprise - Germany:
Germany most snooped EU country by US
One could argue, of course, that this snooping is merely being done as part of programs stretching back into the Clinton Administration as part of intelligence exchanges between Germany and the USA monitoring right-wing extremist groups - Neo-Nazis in other words - in both countries, as such groups often maintain international ties to each other. Indeed, then FBI director Louis Freeh and German Chancellor Helmut Kohl had worked out a number of such exchanges, which some argue included actual exchange of agents, one of whom may have been Andreas Strassmeir, son of Kohl's cabinet minister Guenther Stassmeir, in charge of the German reunification. Andreas Strassmeir is, of course, best remembered for his alleged peripheral - and still not well understood - roll in the Oklahoma City Bombing and his alleged relationship with accused and executed bomber Timothy McVeigh.
But I doubt this is the correct context in which to view the revelation of the extent of USA espionage on Germany. The more recent context, I suspect, is indicated by what I mentioned in last Thursday's (June 13, 2013) News and Views from the Nefarium. That context, I believe, includes the vast hidden system of finance that I believe was put into place after World War Two. As a component of this view, I also believe that the recent bearer bonds scandals were, in part, the triggering mechanism that began the slide of confidence in the financial system of the West.
With that said, I also believe that the German moves to repatriate its gold bullion reserves from the UK, France, and the USA, plus Chancellor Merkel's reluctance to kowtow completely to the rest of her NATO allies' ambitions in the Middle East and elsewhere, would be reason enough for a more-than-paranoid intelligence community in the USA to watch Germany closely. After all, as I averred in the News and Views last week, and as I have pointed out in Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations, the entrance of the intelligence agencies into the financial world - along with the technologies they commanded - allowed them to manipulate markets, complete insider trading transactions on a scale never imagined before, and to create vast amounts of black leverage all for the purposes of creating a huge, entirely off the books, "slush fund" for covert ops and black research projects.
Let us note an additional implication then, one playing directly into the possible reasons Germany should be such a focus of US intelligence efforts: with such technologies able to mine data, it stands to reason that these technologies would give the intelligence agencies possessing them a fairly accurate estimation of the actual amounts of gold bullion in existence, and also where it was, and who had the ultimate ownership of the various 'paper gold' certificates.
But what US intelligence knows by dint of its technological data mining, the various European powers, Russia, China, and a few other nations, are also likely to know.
Fasten your seatbelts folks, because that means that cyber-warfare and economic warfare could be entering a whole new, coupled phase.
See you on the flip side.
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As one tunnels down the rabitt hole, one may come to a us vs them level/scenario. But futher down, there is an organization, playing all sides against one another(through time)/
to achieve an ends,
that might as well be,
hell on Earth.
Forget about the actual spying on US/World citizens for a moment, and now consider the amount of money all this snooping is costing.
I’m wondering IF some of the money that is financing all this sniffing isn’t coming from all that off the books loot that the three letter agencies have at their fingertips. I think maybe not, why waste the money on snooping when the US tax payer can foot the bill. The amount of money involved in this vaccume cleaner exercise is beyond comprehension, and no wonder that the US government owes $17 trillion to the Fed.
The day of “bankruptcy” is coming for the US, and all because the US wants to be the policeman of the world, the elites are nuts, and so are the corrupt fellas that sit in the building where they make laws in DC.
Welcome to the Village we’re all The Prisoner now.
The IRS pressed liberal groups too, and it’s a news media scandal that such pressure is barely reported.
Has the NSA copped to hacking the Bloomberg terminal system? That would be much more telling than a lot else.
as a US citizen (still) but resident of Germany I know that my phone calls are sometimes being tapped- doesn’t happen often but sometimes I hear a strange echo on my land line- I somehow don’t think this a “satellite-beaming” problem because it always occurs when I speak to a German National friend of mine on her home phone; she used to be employed by the US Embassy in Bonn when Bonn was the former capitol and later was employed by a US consulate in another city- she’s now retired- but we haven’t spoken for ages- seems she’s broken off her contacts with her American friends- don’t know why- hope she’s well-
question is: who is doing the tapping and WHY?- both of us are completely unimportant, harmless, pacifistic people who abhor violence-
I have no explanation for this- but just wanted to impart my own personal life’s experiences on probable wire-tapping of even completely unimportant, uninfluential people-
made in Germany-
Larry
P.S.- please don’t misunderstand me- I love Germany and my German friends are the salt of the earth
I dont think that if youre being tapped you can hear strange sounds on the line. This mightve been the case 50 years ago, but nowadays it seems a bit naive to think you would notice it, technology being what it is.
you may be absolutely right p but on the other hand I think it would be even more naive of me not to try to connect dots;
I live in a small village where the interner/land lines haven’t been updated for decades, hence my rather slow internet connection (despite ‘DSL’) and a frequent complete break-down of all communications; I’ve twice had in the last 4 yrs. not had a phone/internet hook-up for up to 5 days- hence: no matter how advanced listening technologies may be they just might be slowed by aged lines, therefore echo
Here’s one for you Larry:
Vorsicht beim Skypen – Microsoft liest mit
http://www.heise.de/security/meldung/Vorsicht-beim-Skypen-Microsoft-liest-mit-1857620.html
many thanks for the link, Paul- very appreciated-
please stay well-
Larry