15 thoughts on “TIDBITS: RAPPAPORT AND PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS ON SNOWDEN”

  1. @”Snowden must have good protective friends he’s still alive and free.”

    It’s interesting to think that a small country like Ecuador which has been harboring Julian Assange is now rubbing it in America’s face by stepping their foot into the current embarrassment for the U.S. regime that is “Snowden”.

    First, its the Ecuadorian foreign minister saying his country is ‘analysing’ Snowden asylum request” in Hanoi, then its the Ecuadorian embassy convoy showing up at the Sheremetyevo airport the same day Snowden supposedly arrived in Moscow, and now its Rafael Correa, Ecuador’s President blasting America’s reputation in light of recent “Snowden affair”, as the Ecuadorian leader went a step further by claiming “The world order isn’t only unjust, it’s immoral,”
    http://rt.com/news/ecuador-correa-us-snowden-306/

    I’m starting to wonder whether Snowden is actually already in Ecuador now, that he didn’t really go to Moscow in the first place, instead he probably left Hong Kong the same way he went to there.

  2. I’m starting to wonder if the Snowden affair is Act I in some kind of unfolding pre-written theater. Maybe a false flag theater? The stop overs in China and Russia seem too choreographed for effect on the impressionable American tv junkies.

  3. This whole saga interests me for many reasons, and I do not believe that any of it is as it seems. Now there is this article:

    Booz Allen Hamilton: Far Worse Than Blackwater
    http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/booz-allen-hamilton-far-worse-than.html

    And a name that turns up is Ian Brzezinski. Perhaps rather than watching the Old snake, we should be paying more attention to the new one. He has since gone on to start his own “NSA”type company.

    Now the old snake, he hates Assange and keeps saying that he works for a “national angency,” which is presumed to be Israel. And the anti Snowden crowd hold this as a reason for more “covert”actions, because of Snow’s connection to Assange.

    I still hold to my measuring rod, in all these things, though time hopefully will sort all the men from the boys, BZ is a Jesuit, Nazi , Black Nobility who has never held alliegence to the USA, but to Rome and the Nazi Bilderberg group.

    Tarpley, who I greatly admire and like in fact, who is an absolute mine of information, has one chink in his armour. If you are not Catholic he starts spitting like a snake, only time I hear real venom coming from him. Mention Ron Paul, Assange or the Dali Lama and out it comes. He is also anti Snowden.

    The biggest thorn in the side of Rome has always been Russia, it does not fall under the “Catholic”umberella. Rome has succesfully destroyed Protestant Christians in USA, Canada and Australia, and anyone who says, “let all the Mexicans in,”has one agenda, to turn USA Catholic.

    LaRouche is a Jesuit.

    So for me now the question is, what exactly is Snowden?

    1. I agree, one does need to look at the “Snowden affair” from different angles, here is a new development

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-23059107

      Chen Guangcheng, a famous Chinese activist has just arrived in Taiwan today, apparently this is under the auspices of the U.S. government in “retaliation” over Hong Kong’s decision to let Edward Snowden go. Cross-strait relationpsh is always a sensitive issue for Beijing, no doubt Chen’s Taiwan trip amounts to “an eye for an eye” from Washington to Beijing. Even more “bad timing” of this visit is the fact the relationship between Mainland China and Taiwan has been progressing smoothly as the two just signed “service trade agreement” only few days ago. Now Chen’s trip has undoubtedly just complicated the newly strengthened cross-strait relationship.

      http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/21/c_132475046.htm

    2. Hi Gail,

      many thanks for your posting- very appreciated-

      but I have some questions: I would tend to agree with you that the Jesuit-connection/Vatican plays a major role in present day society- no doubt- but: after just having read Dr. Farrells’s “SS Botherhood of the Bell” (and I think the info contained within is his most unsettling revelations- chapter 9 above all- 2nd to last); if one has not yet read this book I think it’s an an absolute must-

      if “Prussian Knights” (big paraphrase) in the 13th century were actually the beginnings of the later Nazi mv’t (so to what religion did ‘elite’ Prussians then adhere- if any?- I assume Catholicism although Dr. Farrell doesn’t state any religious affiliation about them in his book)- and this was way before the Protestant Reformation let alone the “official” founding of the Jesuits in 1534-

      my question is: which came 1st, the chicken or the egg, or did the bird fly the coop after laying it’s first egg if one is aware of how cuckoos (sp.?- can’t function in English spelling anymore- am too immersed in German- I apologise) lay their eggs and let other birds nurture their young?-

      IF the Nazi mv’t had it’s sources in Prussian Knights (Catholic?) and IF the later Jesuits are controlling the world through the Vatican could there be a connection somehow?- I don’t have the answer although I would’t rule out anything-

      stay well- regards-

      Larry in Germany

  4. Thanks for sharing this article Dr.Farrell

    “Stasi state” is a quite fitting call.
    in the latest audio interview with Dr.Farrell by thebyteshow, GeorgeAnn Hughes mentioned that Ex-Stasi spy chief Markus Wolf was actually hired by Homeland Security.
    http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/spy_wolf_hired_homeland_security.htm

    i wonder if the fact a former Reagan Administration member is revealing the “Nazi connection” in America has anything to do with Germany’s recent investigation into Nazi commander living in US as reported by RT

    “Germany investigates Nazi commander found living in US since 1949”

    1. Speaking of a former Reagan Administration member revealing “Nazi connection” I was thinking about Dr.Farrell’s comment on president Eisenhower’s famous farewell address in 1961:

      “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

      We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.”

      that Eisenhower’s use of the term “the military-industrial complex” was actually a warning about “the Nazi international military-industrial complex” rather than just “the American military-industrial complex”, which can be properly called “the breakaway civilization” now.

      it inspired me to rethink about president Reagan’s iconic yet odd remarks regarding “alien”.
      for instance, at the 42nd General Assembly of the UN in 1987:
      “In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us realize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, IS NOT AN ALIEN FORCE ALREADY AMONG US?”;
      and from a speech with President Gorbachev, in 1988:
      “I occasionally think how quickly our differences, worldwide, would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world”.

      i wonder whether president Reagan, like his predecessor, when he used the term “alien” was actually warning about the threat of “the breakaway civilization” as well, not only to Americans but to the entire world? Certainly in the 1997 movie “Contact”, the first “alien message” was “from Hitler”, and that movie in my opinion has alot to do with the ongoing “disclosure” campaign. Therefore i find a former official from the Reagan administration is calling the NSA as “National Stasi Agency” an interesting development.

  5. Whoah, PCR does what amounts to the biggest dummy spit on the US government, I thought it was excellent. The other part of the story, which many don’t cover, is the opinion of what other countries people think of the US government, not the US every day citizen. In other words people who live outside the US are thinking “what a load of wombats”.

    The United States of Snooping’ reputation is down around its ankles, and politically, with Gobombanation and John Kerraphile at the helm, the ship is heading for a reef.

  6. Little hard to take Roberts seriously when he approvingly quotes the totalitarian government of China, a government very guilty of similar abuses, critiquing the abuses disclosed by Snowden. (Those are disclosures confirm what everyone guessed at after Bush passed the “Patriot Act” and Obama renewed it.)

    And frankly this kind of fishing expedition sans warrant has been perfectly legal in many European countries for years, but now the tech gear is able to do the recording and sorting automatically. So it’s a little tiresome to see Europeans complaining without acknowledging their own guilt. And it’s just as much a violation of the US Bill of Rights as when Nixon-LBJ-JEdgar and others did it. (Similar excuses were made up about the newish tech of telephones in the 1920s and how the government didn’t need a warrant.)

    Very possibly Snowden has confirmed what everyone guessed to distract from what only a few have speculated.

    1. You seem to still be identifying with the US government, like so many Americans do. Don’t you realise it doesnt represent you and couldn’t care less if you died a horrible death tomorrow? Why do you feel you need to defend “America” ? As a European, I will spit on my government just as easy as on yours and couldn’t care less about some national pride delusion.
      Fact is, it is the US government that is the biggest criminal on the international scene, so if the Chinese government calls em on it, that is valid, even if they are criminals too. And if Europeans want to complain about the Stasi practices of the US, then that is valid too.
      Why would you care?

      1. p–

        You probably want to look up the definitions of “identify” and “defend”. You’re very confused about what those two words mean. Summarizing other examples of these abuses is not defending those abuses.

        I wouldn’t even go so far as to say that Roberts is identifying with the Chinese government. However he is approvingly quoting its objections to mass surveillance.

      2. p-

        Note too my use of the words “abuse”, “guilt”, and “violation”.

        Why do I care about German, French, English and Chinese hypocrisy on this subject? Well that’s it, they’re all guilty too, doesn’t excuse the US abuses.

  7. My only qualm with Roberts’ article is the very subtle clever he drops between the CIA and NSA, as though the NSA is the only despot here deserving the label of Stasi, when in fact both are two peas within the same cozy pod.

    Other than that, 3-cheers to Roberts for pointing out the facts!

  8. Snowden must have good protective friends he’s still alive and free. Unlike Hasting who seems to have been accidented to stop the investigation of the NSA he was conducting. Jon Rapport states that Snowden is a pawn in the war among the CIA NSA SPY versus SPY games for for power.

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