CHINA, INDIA, AND…. ISRAEL!?!?

(My thanks to Mr. C.D.H. of the U.K. for drawing our attention to this!)

Yesterday I blogged about the Iranian nuclear deal and the Ukraine's sudden pivot away from the European union and back towards Moscow as a part of a growing list of indicators that US diplomatic power is on the irrevocable wane, and that it has left the Tel Aviv-Riyadh relationship somewhat isolated. But even that isolation is being carefully sidelined, at least, by Tel Aviv and Beijing, and there are indications that New Delhi is jumping on the bandwagon. What I'm talking about is this:

China, Israel, and India: Flexible Coalitions

There are three paragraphs here I think are worth highlighting, for there is, once again, an unstated hidden text uniting them, and the first two are self-explanatory:

"Clearly, since 1992, the Sino-Israeli relationship has become increasingly robust and mature. Over the years, bilateral trade has expanded in vital areas. In 2009, China was Israel’s 11th-largest foreign market; by 2012, it was second only to the United States. The last two decades have seen high-level exchanges, helping to strengthen political trust. China is currently Israel’s largest trading partner in Asia and the third-largest worldwide. Projections have Israel’s annual trade with China rising from a two-way volume of $8 billion in 2012 to $10 billion over the next half-decade. This could include stronger cooperation in high-tech sectors, joint construction of industrial parks and technology transfer centers, and a boost in agricultural cooperation. This is in addition to strengthening China’s soft power potential by facilitating cultural exchanges such as the celebration of the 20th anniversary of diplomatic relations between China and Israel and “Experience China in Israel.” Confucius Institutes have been set up within Tel Aviv University and The Hebrew University in Jerusalem, offering Israelis a platform to learn about Chinese culture.

"The path of India-Israel relations has not been dissimilar. Initially, India-Israel ties were rocky, not helped by the Cold War. India was perhaps the first postcolonial country to have opposed the partition of Palestine and the creation of Israel in 1948. New Delhi refused to establish diplomatic relations until 1992, when the political situation in West Asia transformed following the shift in stance of the Palestine Liberation Organization that eventually led to the Oslo Accord. The change of global political climate after the breakup of the Soviet Union, which forced New Delhi to “Look West,” helped strengthen ties with Tel Aviv. The liberalization drive in India reinforced relations in vital areas. India’s emerging ties with the U.S. helped."

In other words, while the USA has been busy building the biggest and most technologically sophisticated military, and protecting Israeli interests, it has little else to offer by way of actual trade. China does, and in areas where the two nations' interests complement each other. The same, remarkably, for New Delhi and Tel Aviv.  But then there's this:

"Meanwhile, India-China relations have developed rapidly over the last two decades, notwithstanding border tensions. From a modest $2.92 billion in 2000, two-way trade had ballooned to $66 billion by 2012. China became India’s top trading partner during the 2008-9 fiscal year, dislodging the U.S." (Emphasis added)

The common thread here is that America's volume of trade is falling, along with its diplomatic coin, and Israel and India are responding accordingly.  Project this trend forward into a future that, at present, would seem remarkably unlikely: imagine that the ties between Tel Aviv, New Delhi, and Beijing increase to the point that - as all commercial relationships develop - it becomes a political and military relationship. At that point, the West loses its last major projection of power and influence into the region of the Middle East, besides Turkey.  To be sure, the volume of trade and aid pales beside that of the USA.

Unlikely? At the moment, to be sure. But the trend itself is what is the significant factor here. And here, as elsewhere, the trend is clear: the USA's influence is declining, and Syria (and the Iranian nuclear deal) are the clear indicators of that. Is the scenario unlikely? Again, to be sure. But turn the clock back forty years. Forty years ago, would anyone have even thought it possible that the volume of Israeli-Chinese, or Israeli-Indian trade would be this great, much less that the India or China would recognize Israel?  The Chinese proverb says "May you live in interesting times." And the sooner the Western oligarchs wake up and realize they're living in interesting times, and have to "think the unthinkable," the better.

See you on the flip side.

 

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

26 Comments

  1. henry on November 29, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    @’Henry says: confident these two Asian giants can resume their peaceful relationship enjoyed by their forefathers for millenia.
    sounds racial Henry’
    ‘China and India were respectively the largest economies before the onslaught of modern Western colonialism in Asia.’
    Isn’t it quite obvious when i used the word ‘Asian’ and the word ‘giants’, i was referring to two ‘big and populous countries which are geographically located in Asia’? Since when Indian and Chinese are a ‘race’?
    More importantly, i was talking about ‘peaceful co-existence’ between these two ‘different’ groups/race of peoples.
    The fact even the hope for a ‘peaceful co-existence’ between two groups of ‘non-white’ people can somehow ‘trouble’ the ‘white-supremacist’ mind, speak volumes about their mindset.



  2. amunaor on November 29, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    The Problem of the Aryas

    –There is no such thing as an Aryan root race. This notion was the concoction of white racist, mental midgets with a superiority complex.—

    There can be little serious doubt that the evolution and lengthy survival of the Aryan invasion theory was underpinned by an ingrained conviction on the part of European scholars that the presence in India of a ‘superior’ language such as Sanskrit that was related to European languages must imply a movement of that language from Europe to India in remote prehistory rather than from India to Europe.

    Vere Gordon Childe, Professor of the Prehistoric Archaeology at the University of Edinburgh and later Director of the Institute of Archaeology, University of London, was one of the most influential exponents of this gross scholarly racism. In 1926, while Harappa and Mohenjodaro were actually under excavation, Childe eulogized the ‘gift’ that he believed had been given to India by brawny ‘Nordic’ Aryans:

    “The lasting gift bequeathed by the Aryans to the conquered peoples was neither material culture nor a superior physique but a more excellent language and the mentality it generated…At the same time the fact that the first Aryans were Nordics was not without importance. The physical qualities of that stock did enable them by bare fact of superior strength to conquer even more advanced peoples and so to impose their language on areas from which their bodily type was almost completely vanished. This is the truth underlying the panegyrics of the Germanists; the Nordics’ superiority in physique fitted then to be the vehicles of a superior language.”

    –The mental gymnastics applied here later became the underpinnings and foundation for the Ahnenerbe society, were skulls were measured, distance between eye sockets, jaw angles along with other predetermined criteria skewed to the likings of bigotry.—

    How deep? How ancient is the content of the Vedas really? And from what wellspring of philosophy, insight and religious speculation do the flow?

    Scholars like Gregory Possehlm with the (almost) unanimous backing of Indian Indologists and Sanskritistsm believe that the Vedic hymns were ‘codified’ at around 1200 BC. They admit that the actual compositions must be older than that but it is clear that they would be unlikely to accept a date – even for composition – that is earlier than about 1500 BC, perhaps begrudgingly 1800 BC in some rare cases. Why should this be so when the archaeological record makes it is clear that the second millennium BC in India, if not a time of total decay and collapse as it has sometimes been painted, was certainly not a time that was magnificently fruitful intellectually and does not look like the sort of epoch that would have produced a sublime intellectual creation like the Rig Veda? On commonsense grounds alone, isn’t this enigmatic text at least as likely to have been the work of the equally enigmatic Indus-Sarasvati civilization? And why is it only now that such a possibility is beginning to be tentatively explored by some scholars while the majority still won’t even consider it?

    The answer is that the Vedic peoples referred to repeatedly in the Rig as the ‘Aryas’ and that from this and sustained error of orthodox historical scholarship was spawned. Even though the adjective ‘Aryan’ in ancient Sanskrit actually means ‘noble’ or ‘cultured’ – and therefore the Aryas are essentially ‘the “noble” or “cultured” folk’, and thus as easily a religious cult as an ethnic group – it was assumed by historians and archaeologists that they were a race and that they had invaded India around 1500 BC. Known as the ‘Aryan invasion theory’, this error was only brought to light and dropped from official curricula during the last quarter of the twentieth century. Because it has far-reaching implications, and requires the wholesale rewriting of canonical academic texts and standard works of reference, it is the kind of error that historians are not normally eager to admit. Yet in this case, to their credit, it is the orthodox scholars themselves who have exposed it.

    Graham Hancock – Underworld … The Mysterious Origins of Civilization



    • henry on November 29, 2013 at 4:12 pm

      “Even though the adjective ‘Aryan’ in ancient Sanskrit actually means ‘noble’ or ‘cultured’

      Exactly, yet modern day ‘white supermacist’ are anything but ‘noble’ or ‘cultured’ by the cultural standard of these ancient civilizations which they claim themselves to be ‘the founders’.
      They claim themselves to be ‘Gods’, yet they spread hatred and animosity, their ‘superiority complex’ is based on the notion of a ‘master race’ who would rule/subjugate other peoples by using technologies.

      But in the traditions of these ancient civilizations that they have supposedly founded, the ‘divine/god’ is about ‘love, peace and tranquility’, not just between different groups of men, but between men and their surroundings.

      “This notion was the concoction of white racist, mental midgets with a superiority complex.”
      At the end of the day, these people are indeed ‘mental midgets’, it doesnt matter if they are ‘white supermacist’ or ‘black supermacist/Afrocentrist’, or Han chauvinist, ultra-Korean nationalist, Japanese right-wing nationalist etc, they are all the same ‘petty mindset’. Life in this world has a meaning, and for me those ‘ist/ism’, whether with a ‘racial’, a ‘religious’, or a ‘political’ tone is definitely not what i’m after in this life.



  3. DEBRA on November 28, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Dr. Farrell: I hope you are enjoying a much deserved rest today, Thanksgiving Day. I’m sure you are also chomping at the bit to comment on the startling remarks given by Pope Francis earlier this week that took direct aim at Wall Street and London banksters. Of course, Russia Today posted a great report on it here:

    http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/

    … that page includes a link to the Pope’s 84-page manifesto at :

    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html

    I am going through that document now. But what stands out to me already is that this new Jesuit Pope is not your average Pope. He truly seems to be leading the Church into some new, quickly evolving metamorphosis. Notice for example what he wrote in Chapter One, Paragraph 43:

    ======================

    43. In her ongoing discernment, the Church can also come to see that certain customs not directly connected to the heart of the Gospel, even some which have deep historical roots, are no longer properly understood and appreciated. Some of these customs may be beautiful, but they no longer serve as means of communicating the Gospel.

    We should not be afraid to re-examine them. At the same time, the Church has rules or precepts which may have been quite effective in their time, but no longer have the same usefulness for directing and shaping people’s lives. Saint Thomas Aquinas pointed out that the precepts which Christ and the apostles gave to the people of God “are very few”.[47]

    Citing Saint Augustine, he noted that the precepts subsequently enjoined by the Church should be insisted upon with moderation “so as not to burden the lives of the faithful” and make our religion a form of servitude, whereas “God’s mercy has willed that we should be free”.[48]

    This warning, issued many centuries ago, is most timely today. It ought to be one of the criteria to be taken into account in considering a the reform of the Church and her preaching which would enable it to reach everyone.

    ======================

    I can’t wait to hear your comments on just whatever is going on here.

    Oh, this related item from BIN posted some interesting remarks as well on this new direction of the Church:

    From:
    http://beforeitsnews.com/power-elite/2013/11/pope-francis-releases-84-page-manifesto-demanding-that-global-sharing-of-wealth-must-begin-2444014.html

    Quote: “Italian theologian Massimo Faggioli greeted the work as “the manifesto of Francis” while veteran Vatican analyst John Thavis called it a “Magna Carta for church reform“.”

    “The message on poverty sets Pope Francis on a collision course with neo-liberal Catholic thought, especially in the United States,” said Faggioli, an expert on the Second Vatican Council and reform in the Catholic Church.”

    Interesting times, indeed.



  4. Robert Barricklow on November 28, 2013 at 11:38 am

    The be an enemy of Israel is dangerous;
    to be a friend is fatal.



    • jedi on November 28, 2013 at 12:04 pm

      seth isis orion nephertiti….the destroyer of worlds.

      for pleasures of filth they follow.



    • Margaret on November 28, 2013 at 10:52 pm

      “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” ~ Benjamin Netanyahu, 2002



      • Don B on November 29, 2013 at 2:11 pm

        Do you have a reference for this quote… not that I’m a fan of Netanyahu.

        db



        • Margaret on November 29, 2013 at 3:34 pm

          Hi Don B: As far as I can tell the source is from a 9/21/05 article by Wayne Madsen, “The demise of global communications security: The neocons’ unfettered access to America’s secrets”. http://tinyurl.com/orxg476
          It’s in the final paragraph: “U.S. intelligence sources report that the one Israeli who is considered an extreme threat to U.S. national security is former prime minister and current prime minister hopeful Binyamin Netanyahu. Not only has Netanyahu visited convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard in his North Carolina prison cell and advocated strenuously for his release, but he was once overheard by an ex-CIA agent as saying to a group of his supporters, ‘Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.’ Considering the damage the neocons and their Israeli facilitators are causing for U.S. national security, Netanyahu may soon have his wish.”



  5. charlesfrith on November 28, 2013 at 5:01 am

    When the Israelis get 29 standing ovations at the Chinese Politburo we’ll know the USA will be dumped. Israel’s like that.



  6. henry on November 27, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FothKc-0vG8
    “from a Chinese or indeed an Indian perspective, it’s rapid growth in wealth and power is not so much a rise but a return to the natural order of things”

    China and India were respectively the largest economies before the onslaught of modern Western colonialism in Asia.
    Despite a decade of intensive efforts by the West to drive the wedge between these two nations utilizing the wound between the two from the 1962 Sino-Indian border War (which by the way was in part due to the legacy of Western colonialism in Asia in the first place), but the bigger picture here is these ancient civilizations have always co-existed peacefully for thousands of years.
    And India realized during the 2009 Copenhagen climate change conference that despite the mouthful support for the ‘largest democracy’, the West really is using India to pitch against China without having sincere concern about India’s interests, that’s when things between the two Asian nations started to change, as they cooperated in Copenhagen followed by continued efforts to settle their border disputes.
    With the forming of the BRICS alliance and China’s support for India’s aspiration to play greater role in the UN
    http://in.chineseembassy.org/eng/ssygd/zygx/t191495.htm
    this trend will only continue as the Western oligarchs further ‘retrench’ into their ‘homeland’.
    I fully expect India to gain UNSC seat within a decade, and as Mr. Malcolm Turnbull has put it ‘a return to the natural order of things’, i’m quite confident these two Asian giants can resume their peaceful relationship enjoyed by their forefathers for millenia.



    • jedi on November 28, 2013 at 8:27 am

      the EVIDENCE of white GODS in ancient civilizations is the NATURAL ORDER.
      The new order, worships GOVERNMENT and refutes GOD.

      the 10 planks of the communist manifesto is a blue print for what happened to America,

      the annunaki annul nakedness ….and Eve ate and it OPENED her eyes and she saw it was good to eat.

      might have it backwords, …trying not to pick sides, but the evidence of white people bringing technology to indigenous tribes is well known. and it is unnatural…something to think about.



      • jedi on November 28, 2013 at 8:50 am

        and then there is the coneheads, Thoth Moses IV, natural or un natural…?



          • henry on November 28, 2013 at 4:01 pm

            for someone who claims ‘Chinese were civilized by white gods’, he/she should know some basics about the civilization, that it’s cultural basis is Taoism, an evolved version of ancient Shamanism which is a ‘worldwide’ phenomenon.
            Neither in Shamanism nor in Taoism, and neither during the cultural stage as the shamanistic spirits or as the Taoist deities, these cultures never have implied ‘racial theories’ comparable to modern ‘white supermacist’ paradigm, other than teachings of knowledge and way of life that is available to any and all sentient beings.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Tu_2CP_5k
            Even Taoism was taught by ‘white gods’, then surely those ‘white’ people were spiritually very different from modern day ‘white supermacist’. In other words, the very mindset of modern day ‘white supermacist’ which is petty to say the least defies their claim as ‘the foundation of Chinese civilization’.
            Carol K. Anthony’s ‘identity of the sage’ reveals much of the nature of ‘divine/god’, and it’s easy for any spiritually advanced beings to understand, excluding petty mindset racial supremacists, for them ‘race’ is all there is, and the world/reality is pretty much about ‘my race/people vs not my race/people’.
            The possiblity of not only having other lifetimes but lifetimes with different human forms even non-human form is simply too ‘unthinkable’ otherwise ‘advanced’ for these people i guess.
            Spiritually advanced being sees people directly through their eyes, sees their souls. The skin colors are just the ‘cosmetics’. there is no such thing as ‘superior race’, only ‘superior consciousness’ as far as divinity is concerned.



          • jedi on November 29, 2013 at 6:36 am

            Henry says: confident these two Asian giants can resume their peaceful relationship enjoyed by their forefathers for millenia.

            sounds racial Henry. Your talking out both sides of your mouth.
            Chasing phantoms, illusions, forms without substance or reality.

            They do war by deception.



  7. marcos toledo on November 27, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Looks like Israel has thrown the Norman-American goyim under the bus. China, India, Israel triumvirate politics really makes strange bedfellows. I wonder how the Zippy the pinheads Israel sycophants are taking this in. Their jaws must be dropping to the floor aghast.



    • jedi on November 28, 2013 at 6:34 am

      Marcos, they have begun massive immigration into western nations. Colonization with aliens and they have lots of fiat currency to buy up all assets, natural resources, which include our top level judas.

      Humans have a penchant for gambling, and it is a strange human phenomena, a dependency on the perpetraitor….the more money they lose, the more they believe of the promise of tantalizing riches and the more they throw good money after bad.



  8. Cassandane on November 27, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Pardon me for over-simplifying geo-politics and world history, but the articles in this week’s blog put me in mind of the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party. The same players that left the Mediterranean (Venice, etc.) for a soft landing in the Netherlands, the British Isles and eventually the US now seem to be wooing the BRICS nations with the same idea in mind. The elites appear to be the ultimate users: once an area builds itself up economically, they ingratiate themselves in and take it over. Then once they’ve drained it dry, they look about for the next place to exploit. Somehow there always seems to be a “next” place to go to, just like there was for the Mad Hatter. Genghis Khan’s pillage and plunder model just never goes out of style with these people. It’s disgusting.



  9. DownunderET on November 27, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Strange bedfellows indeed, but the US has only itself to blame. The world now sees the US for what it really is and there’s nothing that can stop that.

    It’s going to be interesting over the next two months regarding the US financial situation, debt ceiling etc.

    Joseph is right, while the US has been building the monster of all military forces, the rest of the world has been “building things”.



  10. basta on November 27, 2013 at 8:48 am

    But the US doesn’t trade with our insolent ME parasite, it just throws grants, subsidies and endless billions at it for free.

    I’ll sit up and take notice when AIPAC packs up for Beijing and changes its name to CIPAC.



  11. Frankie Calcutta on November 27, 2013 at 8:10 am

    How easy it is to make new friends when you offer baubles of advanced technology to the new powers which you stole from the decaying power that you sucked dry. In my forthcoming book “Talking Points For An American Demagogue” I advocate slitting israel and Saudi Arabia’s throat before they slit ours. I would pin the blame of 9/11 on both of these foul countries and then seize all their wealth across the globe, including the Saudi oil fields and all wealth in the hands of the zionist banksters. It would be a mugging of sorts to address the financial woes of the United States but but would also be a long overdue act of retribution against these contemptible middle eastern fiends. Not to mention they are the perfect villains to distract the masses while the American culture, food supply, education system, political system, economy, medical system, etc are over hauled.

    I would also bring in the star fleet as as a show of force to BRICSA or any other upstarts with big ideas about bringing the US to its knees. While I am not proud of my hijacked government’s actions since it became an imperial power, I’m also not going to succumb to an unacceptable quality of life out of guilt. Let any nation that hasn’t abused power or its citizens cast the first stone.



    • Enlil's a Dog on November 28, 2013 at 12:27 am

      It would appear to me that the United States is doing a fine job of bringing itself to its knees without any outside assistance.



  12. DanaThomas on November 27, 2013 at 6:30 am

    This could mean a significant alternative to the old militaristic, apocalypse-mongering approach in the region… It’s been almost 100 years since the Balfour Declaration, and a “cycle” could well be coming to an end.



  13. jedi on November 27, 2013 at 6:28 am

    It is only logical to sell your soul to the highest devil, survival is paramount to the group.



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