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GERMANY’S GOLD & 9/11: SOME SPECULATIONS ON A ...

As many of you know, I follow the blogs of Jon Rappaport and occasionally link them here, and this one, composed just a little over a week ago on Jan 30, 2014, is worth reading and pondering carefully, especially in the context of the recent stories that we've been following on this site regarding the demands of various countries for the repatriation of their gold, especially of Germany.

Flashback: 9/11 and the gold in the NY Federal Reserve

There are a number of important points that Mr. Rappaport makes, so before we comment, it is best to summarize them:

  1. The NY Fed was 2 1/2 blocks away from the World Trade Center on 9/11;
  2. CNN posted a map showing damaged buildings but no mention was made of the NY Fed;
  3. The NY Fed allegedly held about $75,000,000,000 in gold on the day of the attack, based on statements from the NY Fed in a 1999 press release;
  4. The WTC itself held another $100,000,000 in gold;
  5. Television networks did not broadcast, or perhaps were not permitted to broadcast, wide angle shots that showed any damage to buildings near to the World Trade Center;
  6. The movie Die Hard 3(Die Hard with a Vengeance) was about a faked or staged series of terrorist bombings (by Germans incidentally) while the NY Fed was robbed of its gold. Additionally, while Mr. Rappaport does not mention this in his retrospective, the movie's release was delayed on account of the 9/11 attacks;
  7. No troops of police were seen protecting the NY Fed and videos showing such posting apparently disappeared from YouTube;
  8. There has been speculation that JP Morgan's private vault shares a common front deep underground with the NY Fed's vaults, and further speculation that gold and other bullion can be moved easily between the two
  9. Finally, all this raises the question and speculation of whether or not 9/11 was used as a front to steal gold, or as an operation to mask the fact that it may already have been stolen.

That the motivations behind this false flag event are at least in part financial is also argued in recent books, and I have mentioned some of these in Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations. Briefly(and therefore inaccurately) stated, there are persisting stories that ONI (The Office of Naval Investigation) and other Pentagram agencies were investigating allegations of massive financial fraud in the Wall Street sector, and that various brokerage and investment houses  and government agencies located in the Twin Towers and Building 7, were also involved. Some have argued that these offices were the exact targets of the planes on that day and of the demolition of Building 7. The bottom line, regardless of what scenarios one wishes to investigate, is that there was a financial component and motivation to 9/11 at the second level(i.e., the level beneath the surface level of fanatical Muslim terrorists flying airplanes into buildings).

What has all of this to do with Germany and its call to repatriate its gold from the NY Fed?

A great deal, perhaps.

Recently I have been entertaining the idea that perhaps Germany's calls for repatriation of its gold operate at two levels, and not just one, and that the motivations driving each of these levels are entirely different. At the surface level, there is the obvious and growing mistrust of the Western financial system in general and the Anglo-American oligarchy in particular. This, plus the revelations of NSA spying on European leaders including Bundeskanzlerin Merkel, drove growing popular calls in Germany for an audit of its foreign-held gold reserves and eventually a repatriation. As we have indicated here, this repatriation is proceeding at a pace slower than evolution, a pace strongly suggesting that the Federal Reserve simply does not have Germany's gold.

Which leads us to the second level and a possible deeper motivation for the calls for repatriating Germany's gold. There can be little doubt that major German banks, and hence the Bundesbank, became major components in the postwar financial structure, and that structure, as I've argued in various books, blogs, and interviews, included a vast off-the-books structure of hidden finance of the American national security state based on Axis loot. Thus, these entities also became participants in a wider phenomenon. We are accustomed to think of "postwar Nazis and America" in terms merely of Operation Paperclip, the wholesale importation of scientists and engineers of all stripes. Or, for the more well-informed, in addition to this, one tends to think also of the dirty deals between Nazi military intelligence represented by General Gehlen, and the American intelligence-finance oligarchy represented by people such as General Siebert, Allen Dulles, and so on. Thus, in the complaint of historian Carl Ogilvy, the postwar CIA was nothing but "a front for a house of Nazi spies." But the third component is the financial one, closely intertwined with major Western prime and central banks.

Thus, if there was a financial motivation or factor in play on 9/11, at some deep and historical level, these facts and components are also in deep play. Viewed in this respect, the Die Hard 3 movie, for example, appears to be a controlled release or limited hangout.

Thus, operating at the second level, a call for gold repatriation by Germany could be the subtle message "we know it's not there, we know it went missing on or before 9/11(if not before), and we know that you're committing massive fraud. How do we know? Because we've been in on it since the end of the world war."  But calling for return of gold means "that postwar deal is off".

Why might something like this be going on as the "deep politics" behind the current stories about gold?

Very simple, really.... there were three countries whose intelligence services warned the USA that "something" was immanent in the week of the attacks: Russia's, Israel's...

...and Germany's...

So perhaps, in looking at the gold repatriation stories, we need to look much deeper and much further back in history. China, after all, is buying gold at breakneck speed. Their gold, too, is a part of this Axis loot and postwar hidden finance story...

...as is the Vatican bank.

See you on the flip side.

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  1. I can’t believe I barely ran across this today, but … when Tony Gambino, the grandson of Lucky Luciano, got released from prison in 2007, he was very vocal about the Vatican’s involvement in 9/11 and even their role in the assassination of JFK. He is quoted in this article as saying:

    “I know for a fact Bush, the Pope and other top Vatican and U.S. government leaders had prior knowledge and help organize 9/11. They did it for many obvious reason, one being instigating the war in Iraq. But they also did it to get their hands on all the gold that was hidden below in the Twin Towers.”

    http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/26-Sept-2007.html

    And you can here his actual voice talking about the Vatican, 9/11, and the gold in these two YouTube videos, note especially Part II:

    Part I
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL4BrlFvHlU

    Part II
    http://youtu.be/ZsBt6Y4dDCE

    1. terminally skeptical

      Thanks for posting the links. Does anyone know what’s become of Greg Szymanski? The Arctic Beacon website has gone strangely quiet.

      Recently while doing the math on the value of all the known gold in the world I came up with the following:

      Going considerably higher than is generally accepted, 50,000 short tons (2000#/ton)became the hypothetical total multiplied by today’s $1300/oz. The total amount then was 2.08 trillion U.S. dollars. True, that’s not chump change but still IMO it’s a rather low number considering all the black and off budget mischief and subterfuge going in the post WWII era. Throw in a few hundred billion for the drug trade spanning 6 plus decades that funds those low life’s agendas and it seems to me, hypothecation aside, that somebody might be running out of spending capital. Of course gold hoarding is another story.

      That 100 million dollars was that Jon Rapport’s guesstimated value of the gold repository under the former World Trade center. Does that amount even seem like a number worth going after? Gambino tells the story like the loot was the prime motivating factor behind the destruction of the towers but if that valuation rumor can be trusted than it seems like a mere residual bonus well down the list of other objectives.

      Also regarding JKF’s murder I’m have a difficult time with the assassin underneath the manhole cover. Gambino is correct that there was gross abdication of protection by the secret service. But if the lethal shot was taken from ground level that wouldn’t be consistent with the bullets trajectory. At least one internet source says JFK was killed point blank by the driver of his own car.

      I used to say in jest it’s no coincidence that Cosa Nostra and the Catholic Church originated in the same part of the world. Used to . . .

  2. terminally skeptical

    Sorry I meant to say, if you scan the link provided then close the boorish video and read the the first third of the text. The rest is fluff.

  3. 911 is another parlor game…like JFK incident.

    whats so special about 911?
    King Richard the Lion heart was murdered on 1199 and his brother John took over…Sept 11 was a day that Christians would fast.
    Odd that a German sports car is a 911, and the Queen is a German.
    The Templar were formed in 1113 and Jacque de Monay burned at the stake in 1312…a period of 199 years. …

    I read the news today oh boy, about a lucky man who made the grave.
    He blew his brains out in a car, he hadn’t noticed that the lights had changed.
    There is a new movie out, Rush, then watch A River Runs through it…….in plain sight.

    1. whats so special about a movie about a “formulae” one “super star” winning the world championship by finishing “3rd” in the rain on the final race?

      for starters….some neat anagrams.
      the arc angel Michael….
      its chemical WITHOUT THE C …arc, is car, and is also light as in a arc of lightning, arc welding…ie message passed through light…. how your high speed internet works via fiber optics.
      angel is messenger….
      so….. chemical car messenger which brings us around to the rulers by DIVINE right….aka the KING …and his ewes, programmed sheep….it is also alchemi c…..turning lead into gold?
      The actor coincidentally plays Thor in a simultaneous DVD release, where he passes through light vortexes to save earth.

      1. What’s the fact that Formula One is scored by total points for the season have to do with much? (Don’t have to win every battle, but have to win the war?)

        Also in the movie “Thor”, the character is not saving earth. He’s been banished to earth. And the DVD was out at least a year ago.

        Thor, the character, helps to save earth in the movie “The Avengers”.

        1. The new Thor movie, the 2nd one. The dark world.

          You do know that it is a race that pits “star seeds” in competition, around the world, from around the world. Its a “new” type of “test”, the guy that came in second was a banker that ran a “mint”.

    2. “Odd that a German sports car is a 911”- yep, known as Porsche- and if reports in German MSM media is believable, Porsche sales continue to increase year after year

      1. yep and you call 911 for the “po” “lice”, po being latin for river. Po lit ic…ic being latin for indoctrinated
        anti greek for chamber…
        sheds some light on anti semen ic, if that chamber were a reference to a Kings chamber using a binary encoded language initially but taken over by a clandestine banking class of souless parasites that feed on children of the lord.

        1. funny that the germ man is proud of being a rat, and the lion, riding his bike bare foot….and announcing the race dying of a heart attack at 45.lol that it is some sort of shame to enjoy life.

          ….we live Larry, for ever and ever.

          1. Robert Barricklow

            I’m reading Graham Greene’s, Journey Without Maps wherein Graham makes an intriguing comment/I find myself always torn between two beliefs: the belief that life should be better than it is and the belief that when it appears better it is really worse.

            That’s why I like reading Greene, he runs these thought processes across the page, just as we probably all do.
            And of course, many times there are just no answers. At least ones that satisfy.

    3. Jedi,
      Its not important, but De Molay was burned to death in March,1314. In June of the same year Robert The Bruce and Henry Sinclair defeated the English at Bannockburn. It is asserted by some researchers that the Templars fleeing France were among those who fought with The Bruce. Any thoughts?

      db

      1. Sinclair is the family name associated with the Templar/Scottish Rite chapel at Rosslyn; obviously, it was originally French, a derivative of St. Clair. There is a wealth of information associated with these names, as there is with Rosslyn itself. Perhaps not so curiously, given the Illuminist configuration of the original Capitol area itself, the area across the Key bridge from Georgetown in DC was carved out of Arlington proper and renamed Rosslyn. It is where all the big modern buildings hosting government agencies of the intel/defense sort are located; also Lockheed, etc.

      2. My sources agree with you on Robert the Bruce, but claims the order on the templars went out friday 13th 1312.

        My opinion…traitors, shortly afterword, Christians began killing Christians.
        If your interested, have a look at Richards “photographic” stained glass window in Ashby de la Zouche and his mothers tomb Elanor of Aquitaine in Fontevrault Abbey. The planetagene family.

        A recent rolling stone interview with pope francis quotes him as saying christianity was founded by a homeless hippie.

        1. sorry don, 1307 for the 13th, 11 22 1312 to dispel the order seize the assets and hand them over to the hospitalliers…..and 1314 for the burning at the stake.

          However the 11 13 reference pertains to Giza. Have a look at a overview of the monuments there.

        2. Thanks Jedi. Yes fascinating. It is one of my favorite periods of English history from many standpoints,in particular a legal. It was a tumultuous period to say the least.

          db

          1. Your Welcome Don, mine as well. Although this time point in human history will be studied for eternity, and it ties in with that period. we are very fortunate to be here to witness it.

            The shoe shine boys/girls are way over there heads now……exactly as planned, predicted, prophesied. Imagine messing with eternity that laid the corner stone of life and thinking you could win.

  4. Die Hard 3 was released in 1995. It was NOT delayed in 2001. You are thinking of the Schwarzenegger movie.

  5. Long time fan of Dr. F’s work. Just wanted to possibly help a bit of clarity. Please double check the Die Hard 3 mention about “delayed release.” Although, it was very much about similar events. DH3 was released in 1995 (source, IMDB), so likely there was no delayed release b/c of 9/11. Simply just want to help keep important work credible. Cheers.

  6. Robert Barricklow

    Loved/…at a pace slower than evolution.

    And this is precisely the problem.
    For, you see, a seed of gold – as money – was planted long, long ago. In fact the “blessings” came from priests(with a little help from their cousin “friends”. Of course, the fruit born of this seed brought forth roots of the love, that spawned a golden rule: He was has the gold rules. So lets go native; and kick gold’s ass out of the garden along with their idolatrous tools: Foreign Gods Inc.

  7. Joseph’ theory of an op within an op within an op has merit, however it’s the third op that concerns me here. Yes, we know about the technology that did it via Dr. Judy Wood, but what we have to work out is “WHO” wanted to piss off the US government, or more to the point, “WHO” wanted to send a message to the US government. Every conspiracy nut on the planet has the Jews doing it, or the Russians did it, but “who” has both attributes. In other words “WHO” has the technology AND the reason to bring down the two towers? If you can answer this question, then you are that much closer to the culprit. Joseph has been talking about the breakaway civilization possibly “trading” with some of world cousins, well maybe the trading didn’t end up mutually agreeable !!!! I think we have to look “elsewhere” for the organization that pulled the greatest crime the world has ever seen, because I don’t think it was earth based.

      1. There are so many truths but none will service. I am in construction, if you bring down a building that has intense heat due to high explosives used. Can burn with out air. Thus melting the gold or at least a section of it. If it were there, it was moved. All so the bonds that were coming due that Bush Sr and his cronies, they issued bonds and they were coming due. Thus in the transfer of redemption, all owners would then be known. Ah, but for three days they were allowed to clear bonds with out names. First time in history done on the exchange. So why, all from Fitzgerald office. I viewed building 7, that was a controlled blast. Any demolition person could smell that. I did see one tv crew before #7 was blown, the third floor windows were blasted out all the way around the building. How can this happen. Planned, along with 28 murders of witness that just happened to die after, stating the truth did not help their case. How about the CIA woman who was told not to be in NY at 9-11. We are so in the dark with regards to the elites goings on. But soon all will be reveled. Just look at the baker/bankers that have committed suicide in the last six days. Really

      2. Hi Robert, Good article, but doesn’t exactly explain the disappearance of a major part of the twin towers. Nor the “melting” of 1400 cars up to a block away. I do think Dr Wood’s analysis explained the third op… As Ken reminded us, it was an op within an op, within an op.

        And she didn’t try to lay the blame anywhere. Just gave us the facts as she saw them.

        I think this part may have come as a surprise even for the real offenders.

        1. Robert Barricklow

          You’re right.
          It is just an article I like that get’s the concept of “op within ops” across well.

  8. As you written before is there any gold at Fort Knox so was there any gold at the Federal Reserve at lower Manhattan who really knows. As for the Bundesbank I feel confident they have one way or another keep their eyes on Germany gold all this time. They can smell the decay of the USA Empire and have decided move now to retrieve their gold while there still time. Or they have decided to force the issue blowing the lid off the whole deception bring down this rotten house of cards. 9/11 a nice cover for a great gold heist as ever there was just perfect for a job like that.

  9. http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

    Remember Kurt Sonnenfeld the 911 videographer who became a hunted man?

    “It was there we found the security antechamber to the vault, badly damaged. At the far end of the security office was the wide steel door to the vault, a combination code keypad in the cinderblock wall beside it. But the wall was cracked and partially crumbled, and the door was sprung partially open. So we checked inside with our flashlights. Except for several rows of empty shelves, there was nothing in the vault but dust and debris. It had been emptied. Why was it empty? And when could it have been emptied?”

    1. Thanks for the link emlong just read the interview four years old but still relivant today.

  10. The Federal Reserve Bank was not damaged in the attacks. I personally know residents of a tower closer to the WTC site, but still overlooking the Fed, and that tower was unscathed except for dust.

    The bank is two and half long blocks, which is significantly different that 2.5 short blocks, a fact that Rappaport could easily have checked.

    The Federal Reserve bank is much lower than the many skyscrapers in the area so would not show up in most videos unless one is standing in front of it, and all of the tall buildings surrounding it are on the WTC side or to the north and south–other basic facts that are easily ascertained from a source like Google maps or the higher resolution B+W variation run by Microsoft.

    Sure the “German” gold could have been stolen in all the comings and goings–anyhow thought most of the gold was moved out of lower Manhattan years before to West Point, though that may just have been “US” gold held in lower Manhattan.

    Legitimate speculation: All of the gold was moved in 1995 under the auspices of just moving the “US” gold.

    YouTube didn’t exist in 2001 or 2002 or 2003. And contemporaneous postings to the web would be much more valuable than something purportedly shot at the time and posted in 2006 or later on the then existent uTube.

    One could not simply walk below Canal street in Manhattan and look at what was happening around the WTC site on Sept 13, 2001. So there should be no videos, unless you stayed down there. And getting below Chambers street, south of Canal, would have been harder. Also of course video cameras were the only way of shooting video back then–digital still camera barely shot video, and there were no iPhones.

    Check when the NYSE reopened: That was days later and would be the first time civilians would have been allowed down there–if they hadn’t simply remained in an apartment building of which there were many fewer then.

    All of these are points that Rappaport could easily have checked before even speculating.

    So masking already stolen gold is perhaps the only possibility.

    The results of soaking mercury in common kitchen chemicals seem positive for obtaining gold after several months–have not had the result assayed, but the process sure went through the steps described. Can’t imaging this process is not known. I first noted a link to this formula on this website.

      1. Last quarter 2012, in comments.

        Likely an experiment you can do yourself, but be careful if you find yourself needing to buy nitric acid; it’s not used for the alchemy, but for dissolving the mercury away from the gold produced. It’s not that it’s a dangerous chemical in its own right, it is, but that it can be used to make nitroglycerin–a well known explosive.

      1. nick–

        I wrote not a word about the movie.

        I wrote about actual documented mass gold removal from the vaults of the NY Fed in the 1990s. At least the US gold held in the NY Fed was moved to the West Point military reservation across the Hudson river and north 40 or so miles.

        Then I wrote about documented flooding of other lower Manhattan vaults in Oct. 2012.

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  12. Mr. farrell,

    You have mentioned die hard three more than once with this german gold repatriation, and i must correct you. It was released in 1995! I remember because i saw it in the theater. You must be confusing the arnold movie about terroistthat was set to come out right after the attacks. The film was collateral damage and it showed a bombing in a major american city that had to be edited out. Wiki agrees with my dating here. Anyway, thanks for being you. David

  13. Rappaport continues 8 February 2014: “9/11 official scenario: what about the pools of melted metal?”

    1. A big indication that weapons based on another, hidden, understanding of matter (basically alchemical) were used to destroy the World Trade Towers only after the planes hit.

      1. absolutely, Lost-

        one just needs to read Dr. Judy Wood’s research- but could be she’s just scratching the surface (hence the vehemence against her research)- she obviously hit a single pulsating nerve that just may have an entirely unexplored complete neurological system behind it

        1. Right, I’ve heard of her–very scattered and very very repetitive.

          But I was perplexed that day as to why, if the towers had fallen, it wasn’t simply the top third that had crumbled, or simply fallen off to the side.

          Irony, if the towers really had fallen over from the base in the direction of the NY Fed, then the Fed would have been in the collapse zone. But Rappaport can’t even figure out that the Fed is move like 5 short blocks away from the WTC and invisible from the ground anywhere near the WTC site.

          Years later, having read Wood and Hutchinson, I realized I’d seen small quantities of tungsten do the turning to white powder thing while welding in the 1980s and 1990s, but that effect was highly unpredictable. (Tungsten oxide is yellow.)

          I’m struck that none of the gold obsessed draw attention to the fact that US gold holdings were removed from the NY Fed in the 1990s and placed in a vault at West Point–the US Military Academy up the Hudson. So from a private bank vault to a military government one.

          Then of course in late Oct 2012 lower Manhattan flooded, and other private vaults of firms storing jewels and gold (I’d posit these firms are oft acting as pawn brokers for the wealthy) flooded.

          1. “I’ve heard of her–very scattered and very very repetitive”- I’ve never experienced Dr. Wood ‘scattered’ in interviews- but yet obviously repetitive: she sticks to her guns-

            “I’m struck that none of the gold obsessed draw attention to the fact that US gold holdings were removed from the NY Fed in the 1990s and placed in a vault at West Point–the US Military Academy up the Hudson. So from a private bank vault to a military government one.

            Then of course in late Oct 2012 lower Manhattan flooded, and other private vaults of firms storing jewels and gold (I’d posit these firms are oft acting as pawn brokers for the wealthy) flooded”-

            I think you’re probably right

          2. “Scattered and repetitive” refers to her book and website. I’ve never listed to, nor seen an, interview.

            Another thing that detracts from the book: Wood is clearly more than implying that planes did not hit the towers, but does not offer possible tech that could fool so many eyes and cameras.

            Whereas she does provide examples of technology that have effects similar to the destruction of the towers.

          3. terminally skeptical

            Lost
            Thanks for the gold relocation story. Whether it is just another cover for what really happened, who knows.

            Here’s a peddler who claims that we have been running a documentable gold deficit since the early 1990s in excess of over 5000 tons.

            http://pro.sovereignsociety.com/SVS911/MSVSQ202/?h=true

            As for the melted and pooled metal,until Judy Wood arrived on the scene I thought it was attributed to the large supplies of nano thermite used to melt the girts and columns. But do we really have any way of quantifying a hypothesis no matter what melted whatever molten metal was witnessed at ground zero?

          4. terminally skeptical

            Sorry I meant to say, if you scan the link provided then close the boorish video and read the the first third of the text. The rest is fluff.

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