NOW THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THE VAN ALLEN BELTS…
Yea... you read that correctly, but I rather suspect your reaction was the same as mine: shocked incredulity. Nonetheless, that's what some scientismists are proposing, according to the following article sent to me by Ms. M.W.(and big thanks for finding this one!):
Physicists plan to wipe out Earth's Van Allen belts with radio waves
Now, I just have to indulge my taste for high octane speculation, though in this instance I think we have to ratchet it up a notch to "oxygen deprived speculation," for I'm sure that's what many will consider it to be.
Reading the article, especially this comment...
"Whatever the eventual method, there is a growing movement to say goodbye to the belts - which is our second "if": Will destroying one of Earth's most fundamental features have any negative side effects? The easy answer is: probably not. The Van Allen belts are a symptom of Earth's properties, not a property themselves, and as far as scientists can tell the swarm of high-velocity particles orbiting above us is unlikely to affect anything but the bets laid plans of space scientists. Also remember that these dispersion methods are only temporary; given enough time with no VLF waves or cables, the fields would form again for the same reasons they formed in the first place.(Emphasis added)
...is less than reassuring to me. In a world where we were assured by bought and paid for corporate scientists that GMOs were "perfectly safe" and that there were "no documented studies of harmful effects of GMOs" and so on &C ad nauseum Monsantorum et alia, somehow the prospect of scientismists assuring us that "nothing will happen if we re-route all those near-relativistic particles into the upper atmosphere or out into space" is less than re-assuring, We've seen where the "let's just do it now and test for effects later" approach has led us with that issue. So, why pursue the same insane approach to the much more potentially explosive - to coin a pun - issue of geophysics?
The first question it prompts in my oxygen-deprived fantasia is this: whose payroll are they on? Lockheed-Martin? British Aerospace? Dassault? Messerschmitt-Belkow-Blohm? (or for Ian Fleming fans) SPECTRE? Or perhaps the Atomic Energy Commission? Atomic Energy Agency? The Diabolically Apocalyptic Research Projects Agency(DARPA)? I suggest, before there's a stampede to reroute all those particles flying around out there, that we find out.
The second question (or rather, speculation) that it prompts is summed up in my initial first reaction which may be summed up this way: Bullroar!
In a world where it seems there is this insane rush to weaponize space, apparently any ole' excuse will do, and this one - "let's just clean out the Van Allen Belts by re-routing particles to the lower atmosphere so we can have better radio communications with spacecraft" - is just too rich. So far, we don't seem to have had many communications difficulties with our space probes, and for those in the "yes, we really did go to the Moon" school, not with the Apollo craft either. If you're like me, and you believe the fundamental phenomena of large meteorological storms such as tornadoes, hurricanes, and large weather systems are fundamentally electromagnetic (in addition to being due to thermal differentials) in nature, then re-routing all those particles are bound to have some serious implications for terrestrial weather, and for that matter, weather modification and, yes, potentially weather weaponization.
Then we have the little problem of our terrestrial communications and electronics: if, as the article avers, it's a nice idea to vacuum the Van Allen Belts and clean them up so we can have better communications with spacecraft, then what would the effect be on terrestrial communications and electronics? Or are they just wanting to create pretty northern lights effects all over the planet?
More importantly, who's to say that all these particles will be neatly and evenly distributed? I can readily imagine some insane Ernst Stavroh Blohfeld or Dr. Angela Merkwurdigliebe or Zbigniew Brezezcskczskinski of the Dreiecks Commission getting a bee in their bonnet (after all folks, these people are just a few flies short of a Happy Meal), and deciding to concentrate all those particles on Mr. Putin's dacha, and taking out significant portions of the Moscow oblast in one fell bug-zapping lightning bolt spasm.
So what am I getting at here? Well, it should be obvious but in case it isn't, it seems to me that this is another thinly disguised call for a program that is ostensibly about one thing ("cleaning up the environment") while it is really about another (weaponization of space, in this case, geophysical space). And even if all this oxygen-deprived speculation is nonsense, which it may very well be, I go back to the fundamental difficulty: why not do a little science first, long and intensive testing, and show us the results, and let there be independent corroboration, before we go off on another wild and insane project that could have massive consequences, whether unintended or not.
See you on the flip side.
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Since I am “on a roll,” I will add one more thing.
If, indeed, there is a secret space war going on….just WHO are the players? Are the “defenders” (of Earth) really the ones we want to be backing?”
Or…are the enemies of our enemies (those who chased TPTB/Earth Controllers) actually our friends?
Will a space war against those “who return” really be in Earth’s best interests?
That’s definitely out-of-the-box thinking.
And I like it!
“We Gotta Get Out of This Place,” Eric Burden and the Animals (check out Casey Kasem!)
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I am also a reader of Michael Tsarion’s research on ancient Celtic mythology. In my understanding of HIS thesis, there were beings who came to Earth CHASED out of their own sector by (?). They created a diversion on Tiamat and hid out on Earth. Tiamat was destroyed by the chasers, and they had to leave for some reason.
Not trusting that the group they were chasing were really gone, they put up a “field” of some sort to keep the “bad guys” (from their perspective) in.
Not dissimilar from JPF point of view, those “ancient elites” (the chased group) has been working ever since (millenia!) to GET OUT OF THIS PLACE! They realized it would require millenia, probably, to get (1) civilization in place so that they could (2) control ALL the resources of the planet (and solar system?) before they could even leave the planet. “Prison Planet,” indeed.
If any of this has ANY grain of truth, I am wondering whether the Van Allen Belt is that “frequency fence” so often referenced and also imaged (think UN Logo).
Yes, I think whatever beings have been in control and are still in control are coming SO CLOSE to being able to BREAK OUT that they really will do ANYTHING to push the pace.
They don’t give a rat’s you-know-what what happens to humans and life on this planet. They only want to be able to GET OUT OF HERE!
I am beginning to feel the same way….but that’s another story…
oh christ….study electro magnetics.
The earth use to be a star, when the land mass rose it became a planet.
The polar fields are created by the stream of electro magnetic energy and it is what holds your molecular form together so you can enjoy life…..
Jedi, I see no need for you to resort to name-calling in order to disagree with me or to express your own point of view. I suggest you do a disservice to your own credibility when you do so.
That said, I do, of course, realize my “what if?” is WAY outside the usual box of how space formed. But I am thinking “if they can make it go away, could someone have been able to engineer or drag the field into place in the first placeat some point?”
After all, if they can drag Moons into our orbits; if they can create rings on Saturn; if they can engineer galaxies far far away so they show up statistically unlikely to be natural events (as JPF reported in one of his early books, one of the Giza’s, I believe)….
…then why the hell could a high-technology not exist that COULD engineer a radiation belt around a certain sector of space?
I don’t think my speculation is any more idiotic than some of the artifacts in space that continue to defy rational explanation according to the usual consensus. At this point, we don’t even KNOW what we don’t know!
In other words, I respectfully suggest that we “agree to disagree” without resorting to put-downs and name calling. We are not in kindergarten here.
Joseph Farrell is kind enough to provide us with a forum to express ourselves here. Most do it with a great deal of intelligence and respect. I request you do the same.
sorry I get carried away…it is just with the known science (which was never taught to us in the lame stream garbage public schools), and the pyramids with there layouts, and the formation of atoms and molecules in electromagnetic fields and all that and then there is pseudo science interjected…and the things is I may be wrong entirely having personally observed a science that operates outside of my known laws of physics…..and then there is the secret mystery garbage to wade through….so the frustration sets in
profound apologies…I didnt mean too hurt your feelings, or create a poisoned atmosphere.
Respectfully we might as well be in kintergarden, if we cannot get the basics of the electric universe agreed upon…..and that is but an observation.
Jedi… I will not permit personal attacks on this site… PERIOD
OK..sorry, the idiot remark was out of line, not necessary and showed immaturity, insecurity and bullying…..I might of had a couple of drinks, which is no defense…
someone should invent a sobriety test on the post comment button.
I often wondered if Ian Fleming was trying to warn us about SPECTRE? That there was a functional equivalent third party criminal organization that was profiting from all war, drugs, etc..
He was made famous when JFK said he was his favorite author.
Madness. Who elected these idiots God?
Maybe this pack of Einsteins ought to start at home and trot on over to Fukushima to take a look-see and ponder getting rid of THAT radiation before playing God with (yet another) major earth system they haven’t the vaguest clue about, and can only guess at its actual functions until the moment they’ve actually FUBARed it, in which case we could all be FUBARed.
Oh brother, the mad scientists are at it again. Who are these nut cases anyway, they are poking a stick at mother nature and expect her to roll over and play dead. Well mother nature is a willy old woman, and we know when a woman gets angry, then all hell can break loose.
“Stop the World I wanna get off”
The very most benign reading of this initiative would reveal the kind of hubris that leads some to think we can presently understand the environment — either terrestrial or extra-. Our planet’s degradation since the Industrial Revolution kicked in should convince any rational person that, to paraphrase Sir Arthur Eddington, “[Nature] is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we CAN imagine.” Thinking that we have even our own complex planet figured out is the greatest folly. Now They want to start tampering with space? What are They smoking? Oh yes, I forgot: those persistent rumors of breakaway contingency plans and underground cities may represent the fail-safe that allows contemplation of this kind of planetary Russian roulette. Hopefully we sheeple will wake up before this kind of plan gets fully under way.
Who do these so called scientist serve this sounds like the Dr. Who episode The Pyramids Of Mars. Where Tom Baker as the Doctor fights the Egyptian god Sothis plan to turn Earth into a dead desert world like Venus. And is one of the reasons supposedly Mars has lost it’s atmosphere is because of the lost of it’s magnetic fields. Which allowed the solar wind to stripe the planet of it’s atmosphere. Or a episode of Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea where a scientist uses a giant magnet to draw the Moon to Earth. This reads like a mad scientist from the tape thrillers as Dr. Edward Morbis would say.
The Van Allen belts are a hindrance to space travel, therefore getting rid of them would make space travel safer. Not that I believe it’s a good idea because I think it’s suicide to do something like this. But if they’re truly considering mining the moon, planets, and asteroids, then this is really just a matter of commerce to them.
Yeesh. These “scientists” couldn’t analyze a tin of beans properly. And “it’ll reform itself anyway” is a lame excuse–what if it doesn’t? How screwed are we from some other outside event if those belts are missing? On the other hand, if these belts are the “fence” to keep us in prison, is “someone” going to notice them missing?
And because I couldn’t find anywhere else to put this:
A bitcoin exchange CEO “committed suicide” tho details are not available. I’m sure it’ll be a double tap to the back of the head before she jumped from the 33rd floor of some bldg.
Got to make that quick buck
And strike when the iron’s hot.
hehe…earth=iron + electric current = magnet.
So too get rid of the field they should blow up the sun.
starfish prime…lol, never a straight answer.
so long as the printing presses keep running this type of krap is the best to expect.