UKRAINIAN “LEADER” TYMOSHENKO WANTS TO KILL 8,000,000 ...
The saga in the Ukraine continues, folks, and so many of you sent me this article that I cannot thank you by name, but it's worth talking about and bringing to everyone else's attention. But before we get to it and my commentary, let me be clear once again. I do believe that Ukrainians had valid concerns about their previous government and its oligarchs, and that many Ukrainian protesters were legitimately voicing their concerns. At the same time, I do believe that the crisis, if not created or fabricated by Washington, was certainly exploited by it through its various fronts, and I also believe that it deliberately funded and used the most vile and extreme elements within the Ukraine to drive and exacerbate tensions, and that those elements now have a choke hold on that unfortunate country.
Additionally, I have no doubt that these elements were backed as a component in a wider agenda, which was and remains to encircle Russia, and in this case, to deny it its key naval base in the Black Sea at the Crimean city of Sevastopol. Russia acted to protect its legitimate interests, and more importantly, indicated that it will continue to do so, no matter what the western elites or their pressitutes say.
With that in mind, the new leadership in the Ukraine is not helping the Western "case" very much, as Zero Hedge reports:
"While the NSA is busy justifying... its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.
"After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings in what was about to be a violent coup overthrowing Ukraine's president Yanukovich, 'someone' has just leaked another phone conversation, this time between parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych and former PM and ideological leader of the Ukraine "revolution" Yulia Tymoshenko and most probable future president of West Ukraine, in which Tymoshenko is makes the following threats, 'It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader', 'I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands' although all her empty threats collapse in the last sentence of the phone conversation in which she says, regarding the Crimea annexation, that 'we are going to take it to the Hague International Criminal Court.' Good luck with that.
"But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, 'what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts'... to which she replies: 'They must be killed with nuclear weapons.'
"Needless to say, that is not how you make Russian friends, or diffuse geopolitical tensions with your superpower neighbor, who just happens to be set on recreating USSR 2.0. Because just like that Putin has his provocation carte blanche, as the second something, anything happens to any ethnic Russian in east Ukraine, Putin can point to precisely this conversation as proof of how Ukraine's "government" feels toward the ethnic minorities in the east, and why 'they deserve to be protected' (by) the Russian bearhug. Which has been precisely Putin's plan all along.
"It is not surprising that after this recording was leaked, that Tymoshenko admitted the validity of the recording except for this part, because she knows just how greatly it can and will be used against her once Putin decides it is time to expand a little further beyond just Crimea." (See Ukraine Leader In New Leaked Recording: 8 Million Russians In Ukraine "Must Be Killed With Nuclear Weapons", all emphases in the original)
What's of interest here is the backhanded admission of the "ideological leader" of the Ukrainian revolution that (1) she is a nut case; (2) she, or the Ukraine, may have access to some left-over nukes; (3) she wants to use those nukes on Russians and (4) she wants to "whack" Mr. Putin, and note please the use of a Mafia term to murder and assassinate, which is more of an indicator of the mentality now in command of the Ukraine, and of its western backers, than it is about Mr. Putin.
So if there is any doubt about what is now in power in Kiev, let's review: Ms. Tymoshenko wants to (1) kill 8,000,000 Russians, (2) with nuclear weapons, and (3) to assassinate Mr. Putin.
As "Tyler Durden" indicates, this only hands Mr. Putin yet another legitimate cause for action to protect Russian lives, and likewise, to point out the hypocrisy of the West and of western media presstitutes in its coverage of the situation(you'll note the lack of outcry against Ms. Tymoshenko's remarks in the lamestream western media). And as for "whacking" people, that too is a game two can play, and Ms. Tymoshenko, like Ms. Nuland, might want to consider hiring food tasters.
But what is of real interest here, especially in the light of yesterday's blog about the curious ability of Russia to avoid communications eavesdropping by the Reichsicherheithauptamt...er... National Security Agency, is the fact that Ms. Tymoshenko's phone call was revealed at all, for it raises the question "Who had the capability to reveal it, and why did they do so?" In this respect, all the fingers of suspicion point to Russia, or perhaps a "quietly friendly" power anxious to avoid further escalation of the "situation." That means that there is a real "cyber and covert war" taking place, and that there may be very serious cracks in the west's "electronic fence" and perhaps even within the tapestry of western alliances itself.
That this type of story is only going to increase, for it heralds the beginning of "active measures" and "covert operations" against the west, and that has to have the western oligarchs very concerned.
See you on the flip side.
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Surprise , surprise , surprise, now also the leader of the chechyen terrorist group that killed a theater full of children in russia is now taking over a security role in the Ukraine,independant of the ethnic polish junta now in power. Vowing to help kill russians,this must give great comfort to the russian population there. Moreover we see the western intelligence involvement in chechynia with this close connection,Gladio anybody? Perhaps this in some way is a good thing as now all the sewer rats make an appearance,I’m waiting for alkijda to make its appearance like bin laden did in bosnia. It’d make himmler weep with joy.
I have a moderate to high octane theory which may explain the lack of electronic communication and the seemingly supernatural coordination of the Russian military: Putin has been planning for this all along.
He knew that the EU would get ideas above its station and try to bring Ukraine on board. After that it was just a matter of getting their man Janukovych to veto the deal and let nature take its course. Having lots of dubious far right Ukrainians amongst the protestors didn’t do any harm either. Then an annexation of Crimea to right an historical wrong is not such an extreme measure. Doesn’t do any harm either to expose the hypocrisy of the western powers recognising Kosovo’s but not Crimea’s right to self determination. In this theory my main villain of the piece is the eu not the USA.
Don’t know how the US coverage of this has been but the UK media has been a mixture of perfunctory criticism of Russia mixed with a grudging respect for Putin.
It may backfire on him in the long run but putting aside his personal qualities (you don’t become a KGB colonel through your warmth and charm to paraphrase Doctor Farrell) but I wish we still had leaders of his calibre in the UK.
Ps I suspect that there is still a snooping infrastructure in the former USSR that Russia still has access to.
You are absolutely right about all long planning.
But you are wrong about Yanukovich. He was USA’s and EU’s man. It was impossible to organize all this “Maidan process” without his participation. His plan was to legalize corrupt money in the west. And no politician from US or EU gave him no hope for that. As a greedy bastard he started to play dirty(went to China, signed some deals; went to Russia, got some loans). After that his life in Ukraine ended and West mercenaries started hunting on him. That’s why he escaped so quickly to Russia. Putin – the only force that needed Yanukovich alive.
During the recent nuclear summit in Hague the “illegitimate” government of Ukraine just happened to have killed Oleksander Muzychko while its foreign minister stated that “all previous contracts with China will be honored by the new regime. ”
Recall Yanukovich’s urgent trip to China and Russia after the escalating protests in Kiev last year and his support for the “Silk Road” initiative, and now Germany’s interest in “Silk Road”.
The prospect of a German-Chinese backed（strange bedfellow isn’t it? Afterall German and Chinese scientists did cooperate on tackling the E. coli outbreak in Germany in 2011, incidentally the lab-created virus just happened to ravage Germany after Merkel declined to participate in NATO invasion of Libya) Euro-asian trade-link can not possibly exclude the Russian Federation, can this to a certain extent explain the German reluctance to sanction Russia over Ukraine, given the indictions are both the old and new regime in Kiev would be supportive of the initiative?
It should be noted that Tymoshenko did not just express her extreme hatred towards Russia but also extreme “disappointment” towards the current Ukrainian regime.
So what does it mean that even the West-backed Kiev government is now killing a Nazi-facist figurehead (just watch what’s happening now, the Right Sector thugs are threatening the new regime as they have done so to the old Yanukovich regime) while making Tymoshenko angry over their “inability” to counter the Russians?
Recall recent talk of Kardashev’s measure of Civilizations, “Silk Road” can be recognized as the harbinger of type 1 civilization and beyond. Perhaps one ought to think about the culture of a type-3 civilization now.
P.S. On a side note, i remember Jesse Ventura has a special guest on the show, a female doctor claiming she once treated a female European head of state that she was astounded by her desire to eliminate “useless eaters”. I don’t want to name names here but i will say i was equally astounded to hear someone wants to kill 8,000,000 Russians.
Unbelievable! Or not. RT headline this afternoon:
NASA suspends cooperation with Russia over Ukraine crisis
The United States has suspended contact between NASA and its Russian counterpart over the ongoing situation in Ukraine. Only ongoing International Space Station cooperation will continue through the freeze in relations.
NASA associate administrator Michael O’Brien said in a memo sent Wednesday that all missions with Russia’s Roscosmos are on hold indefinitely, UPI reports.
Something awfully big up there beyond Earth orbit must be happening for the public space programs to be squashed like this.
China & Russia keeping it all to themselves, perhaps?
Unless the US does have alternative undisclosed space capacity it’s cutting off their nose to spite their face. Who else is going to get their astronauts into the air??
They will get into space from the Ronald Reagan launch complex in Kwajalein atoll. I worked with men who did mechanical engineering for Raytheon at the complex.
They have a launch vehicle to get men into space and it is top secret and you must have a Q top secret clearance to go to the island, or at least as of 2006 it was.
The crap they are feeding the public is balony and what I’m telling you is straight from the horses mouth. It’s a fact.
On April 1, 2014 NATO suspended all military and civilian cooperation with Russia. It did so based on lies relating to Ukraine. NATO wants greater encroachment on Russia’s border. It wants it provocatively targeted. It wants long range nuclear armed missiles targeting its heartland. It wants what no responsible threatened leader would tolerate. It wants fascists putschist allies involved in provocative lawlessness. Perhaps a major false flag operation is planned.
In the end…
perhaps nothing will be left worth fighting for.
Hell hath no fury….-
Putin said he wasn’t going to invade the Ukraine and was withdrawing some of his troops from the border. I think he was trying to slowly de-fuse the situation, let’s face it, he got what he wanted without a shot being fired. Then the madmen at NATO said they couldn’t verify this troop reduction. You cannot tell me that the number of spy eyes in space couldn’t see this?
So Putin tries to diffuse, and NATO escalates and the MSM follows every step NATO takes, a blind man could see it. The war of words continues and the elites have gotten what “they” wanted, and that was a second “cold war”, success at last!!!!!!!!!
Well Victoria(THE NUT)Nuland and Yulia(LA LOCIA)Tymoshenko are really whipping up against Russia. Ironic in this the centenary of the Great War that open the last century this happening in the same general area the last one began. As the one sixties song went When Will They Ever Learn history does repeat itself first as tragedy second as farce are you sure Putin playing the game of chess and not the game of go like General Gap.
There is NO question Washington put these puppets in power. And though the symbolic trigger is called Ukraine, the signals come from Washington will decide the global fate. If Washington miscalculates; Russia will recognize where, indeed, the true responsibility lies.
Playing Nuclear Russian Roulette with global consequences should be in the hands of human beings; not these “selected” insane aristocratic monsters, whose puppet masters may have heads way too big for Earthlings to survive(at in least in the current life form and/or on Earth).
[I’m currently deep into:
Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep? by PKD.
It may have influenced said perception(s).]
Amazing how much the current situation in Europe resembles Germany in the 1930’s. You have a bold, articulate, and creative leader who pulls his country out of the ashes bankster rape and debauchery. In Putin’s case, he rescued Russia from the degenerate Yeltzin (Weimar) republic where oligarchs were on the rampage and human life was very cheap. Now the banksters have declared war on renegade Putin and are using every trick in the book to topple him, which may even include using their vassal states to wage war on Russia. Putin in turn may now be forced to protect ethnic Russian minorities in other countries like Ukraine who are being threatened by bankster henchmen to goad Putin into war. How reminiscent of Hitler and the ethnic German minorities in Eastern Europe under threat of bankster friendly regimes. I was taught in high school history class that Hitler engineered these conflicts with Poland and Czechoslovakia as an excuse to invade these countries and make them part of the Third Reich. We are currently being told by the mass media that Putin intends the same thing. Could it be this historical narrative taught in schools, the machiavellian expansionist aims of Hitler, was a load of dung? Like Putin, maybe Hitler really did not want war (as he vehemently claimed.) And just like Putin and the ethnic Russians in Ukraine, Hitler was goaded into war solely by the machinations of the banksters and that Hitler truly was protecting ethnic Germans and not using them as an excuse to invade his neighbors? I’m stunned. What other lies will I uncover from my high school history books as I watch these similar events play out in Europe?
So if pogroms start in Russia, will it be bankster agents who are really setting the synagogues on fire? Will it be fifth column Russians, surreptitiously on the bankster payroll, who will be rabidly calling for the expulsion of Russia’s jewish population? And will the western media and governments, on cue, accuse Putin of being an anti-semitic monster and call to arms all “righteous” nations in the world to go to war against Russia in order to save Russia’s jewish population? Was krystalnacht actually a bankster propaganda operation to malign Hitler and the nazis? Possibly the next shoe to drop in my re-education. Will a bold little Russian jewish girl secretly write a blog that will be read my millions on the internet where she will given an account of the terror and hardship she suffers daily trying to escape Putin’s pogroms? (Will this little girl allegedly living in Russia, actually be a grown man writing from his AIPAC office in Washington DC and who loves baseball, XTC and gay porn?)
Will this then be the reason zionists use to expand the borders of Israel militarily in order to make lebesraum for a large influx of persecuted Russian jews? Will a secret clique of western entrepreneurs and financiers secretly fund Putin’s war machine for the real purpose of using the industrial might of Russia to produce something unrelated to Russia’s war with NATO? Something that might be space related? Could there as well be artifacts in Russia, maybe on the shores of the now frozen Arctic Ocean, which might be highly sought by western collectors in high places? Lastly, could there be unfinished business with an antagonistic gene pool nestled in the Russian population that wasn’t completely culled during the bolshevik genocide of White Russians? A gene pool left over from an ancient civilization that thrived ages ago in the then temperate climate of Northern Siberia on the banks of the Arctic Ocean in a land referred to later in legends as the Happy Lands?
Frankie any sites you can share that can shed light on the ancients would beappreciated.
Great rant BTW……have you checked out shark hunters for some revionist history?
Love your rants, and having checked into revisionist sites myself I also have a lot of unanswered questions. And is the same game being played now? I wonder.
You’re all over it here, F.C. There’s no denying that we still stand to learn what really happened in the past by what could possibly play out in the future.
Great piece Frankie.
Yes, we need to start learning from history, and from our mistakes.
It’s shocking how short people’s memories seem to be.
Especially since the perpetrators (whomever they may be under the circumstances) use the same tactics over and over again, it couldn’t be more obvious if you care to look.
The old “lone nut” tactic for one. Blame it on the lone nut – usually in a matter of hours or at the most a few days – to move the spotlight away from the real culprits.
As Sun Tsu said in Art of War. War is all about deception.
Tymoshenko got confused by Ukrainian elite’s propaganda, elite to which Tymoshenko belongs. There are not 8 millions Russians but at least 30 millions. One significant addition is: Tymoshenko said that 8 millions should be killed with nukes also with their head. She meant Putin.
About this leaked conversation. Tymoshenko confirmed the next day that the dialog took place. Why she did it? Because the casting to the place of the president has begun. The candidate should be very antirussian, should be ready to begin war with Russia and to continue repressions(kilings, beatings, kidnappings, intimidations) to those who resists against illegitimate junta that took power in Kiev.
And it’s interesting that yesterday to become top Ukrainian official you should be friend of Putin(as Tymoshenko tried to be) and today things have changed opposite. And the casting for president of Ukraine continues and it carries out by USA’s officials.
I’m assuming Tymoshenko isn’t utterly stupid (although that’s a big maybe). The 8 mil Russians might be referring to metro Moscow. Obviously nuclear weapons within one’s borders are not kind enough to differentiate Russian or Ukrainian speakers.
I’m also assuming she’s talking tough, but it’s giving Putin any and all justifications. Of course, always beware not the two shouting at each other, but the one “kindly” party stoking both sides…
Tymoshenko referred The 8 mil Russians to East and South regions of Ukraine. She’s taking tough also to provoke Putin and Russia. That is the plan of some world elites(mostly in USA) trying to save dollar and Bretton Woods system.
The Middle East did not explode as it could. So all resources were used to start civil war in Big Russia. The conflict between Ukraine and Russia would be civil. Around 40% of people in Ukraine have close relatives in Russia and vice versa. And this war was a possibility in one only way. If the psychological propaganda of the past 23 years in former USSR had worked. And it had not.
The Russian-Georgian war in 2008 hit the system. Now Crimea returned back to Russia without any war and there were few people killed during past months in Crimea. Nato, EU, USA(as global power) will be falling down and we will see it.
I believe she may have been referring to the 8 million Russians living in Eastern Ukraine.
Not that it makes much difference.
The woman is certifiably mad, although probably just regurgitating what she’s been told to say by her “masters”. Be it the far-right thugs in control of Kiev or her Western “handlers”.