A couple of weeks ago I blogged about the strange sequence of space news that has been going on, and just how truly strange it is when you stop and think about it. In fact, earlier this week I also pointed out how truly strange it is: NASA wants to send astronauts to an asteroid, but, at the same time, there is no government or private conventional heavy lift technology being developed to accomplish such an extraordinary, and long range, mission.  It's "big talk" without the rockets to walk the talk. Is it therefore simply big talk? or a measure of the insanity of the age that astronauts are training to land on asteroids, while no public programs exist for a technology to get them there. And...oh yes, the Russians aren't helping either, and they do have the public technologies.

In the midst of all this high strangeness, more high strangeness, as the Vatican, you'll recall, weighed in with a suggestion that f it encountered aliens, they might not have to be baptized, since they might not have fallen. As you'll recall, I pointed out that there were difficulties with such a view, since on any traditional Christian interpretation of the fall of Man, Roman Catholic, Protestant, Anglican, or Orthodox, the fall is a cosmic event.

Now it seems Pope Francis has gently weighed in on the subject, indicating that, as far as he's concerned (and therefore, as far as the Papacy is concerned), there's no problem with extra-terrestrial baptisms:

Pope says baptism for all - even Martians

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While the Pope speaks of green beings with tentacles and long ears, I suspect there is something else going on here, and of course, it prompts to our usual "high octane speculations." We can gain a measure of those possible hidden concerns by pondering the other component of that "traditional doctrine of the Fall" and baptism issue, namely, that when previously the christian tradition was confronted by a similar situation with the discovery of the New World, it argued the same thing, even though it did not have any explanation at that time as to how Native American Indians came to the New World. To baptize them was an admission that somehow, they belonged to the same genus as the rest of man, as descendents of, as relations, of Adam and Eve.

I suspect, therefore, that there are those hidden within the Roman Church that have come to a similar conclusion, namely, that even though any extraterrestrials encountered by humanity, and how they relate to humanity, may not be explainable on the basis of current human historical or genetic knowledge, the precedent was established, and therefore, the Vatican may be subtly telling us that it may now have come to the position that we have "genetic cousins" out there, who, like us, might be hugely fallen, and who, like us, are in need of a huge forgiveness. And of course, the power play here shouldn't be ignored. For suppose "ET" in exchange for "baptism" offered a lot of really cool technology. Who better to entrust it to than to an institution with an historical, albeit spurious, claim to speak for God and all of humanity, Boniface VIII-Unam Sanctam style?

The Vatican, in short, can and does read the same ancient texts that we can, and it well knows all those legends of Annunaki, Nephilim, giants condemned to punishment... Francis merely let us in on a process of logic and speculation that may be operating very subtly within the world's oldest and most experienced political chancery...

...See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. DownunderET on May 22, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    Lets face it, if there was anybody who had “written” proof of the existence of an off world race of genetic cousins that were hanging around in Mesopotamia a long time ago, it would be the Vaticanofworms. That library and the “vaulted” parts of it that nobody can view, might hold the smoking gun. And don’t forget the Pope IS infallible so he can’t be wrong.

    Wouldn’t it be great if the Pope attended the Secret Space Program that Joseph is speaking at in San Mateo on June 28th & 29th. Boy would THAT get the conference some serious INK. He might even get up and make a speech on what he knows.
    Seriously, this issue is “clouding” everything that’s going on in the world today, the ET issue is the greatest material omission the world has ever known and maybe one day soon, our genetic cousins may pay a visit, to take back their “possession”. So maybe a lot of people are laughing at this Pope for speaking about ET’s, but in reality “what does he really know”.

    • DanaThomas on May 24, 2014 at 11:49 am

      Well, the conference will undoubtedly be attended personally and/or seen online by those Jesuits who have been so interested in these matters…

  2. marcos toledo on May 22, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    The problem is who will be baptizing whom I doubt they will be the ones being baptized it will be us from Earth. What will our overlords say when the aliens declare themselves our creators and masters. And demand a oath of loyalty from us to them.

  3. nobodyouwantoknow on May 22, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Electrogravitic Propulsion, thank you…

    Powered by all the hot air generated by toroid-jerking blowhard bloggers, tribo-lollygagging slackers all, present company excepted …

    See you on the tip side

  4. RAJM on May 22, 2014 at 11:58 am

    Is it just me or is there a total and essential disconnect between the monotheisms (of Abraham) and anything off world? When I connect my perceived essence of these religions with the universe I simply get a low deep chuckle emanating back to my umbilicus. Catholics in space reminds me of….the muppets.

  5. Daryl Davis on May 22, 2014 at 11:03 am

    I’m sorry, but I don’t believe for a second that, if truly there exists a cabal of elites in possession of back-engineered, Star Trek caliber technologies — let alone technologies even beyond this supposedly fictional level — a day is coming when these people will be subject nevertheless to our collective interrogations or our public condemnation. It’s inconceivable that the Vatican, or the American military-industrial sector, the Nazis, or the old banker families, having each, independently of one another or not, developed the capacity to live off planet, to destroy this or another planet, and certainly collectively to subjugate our planet, would give two rats whiskers about future, post-disclosure public opinion.

    The only conceivable scenario by which the elite might be subjugated by us involves the open intercession and open-ended presence of aliens. Otherwise, don’t hold your breath that the lamestream media would either convey the elites’ forced mea culpa or advance their own. So who else steps forward then, white hat in hand, to restore humanity onto a just, “natural”, enlightened path — and who guarantees this to our posterity?

  6. zepher on May 22, 2014 at 10:57 am

    Low Octane Speculation- When you are the arbiter of thought for all constituents/communicants its really mandatory is have a stated/disseminated opinion or edict on any issue. Discussion is an adversary that leaves the possibility of the unthinkable-people thinking and possibly even reaching their own decisions.

  7. Robert Barricklow on May 22, 2014 at 8:13 am

    “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” Queen Gertrude, Hamlet.
    Theme: Deception.

    • Robert Barricklow on May 22, 2014 at 10:41 am

      Or as former CIA Director puts it in 21st Century speak:
      “It will be won by forces you do not know about, in actions you will not see, and in ways you may not want to know about”.

  8. old97polarcat on May 22, 2014 at 7:44 am

    A timeline of these “announcements” from the various Catholic factions would show whether the frequency of these messages has increased over time. If they have increased, it could be evidence of a psyops campaign. My guess is that these messages are increasing in frequency and the ET-friendly content of the messages is ratcheting up in lock step. But to what end? Judging by the content, it sounds to me like a rats-off-a-sinking-ship scenario in which the Vatican is now looking at its near- and long-term marketing strategy. At this point in history, if I were a top-tier MJ12 type, I would be painfully aware of the fact that the US secrecy regime is way, way past its use-by date. My guess is the Vatican sees the end-game of the secrecy approaching and wants to position the Church ahead of the public perception curve. My guess is they want people to see the Church as the actor that pushed the truth, not the one, like the US, left holding the bag of having not only deliberately duped the world for 70 years but deliberately denied the world clean energy and other technologies, which will become real, real important as the climate becomes increasingly unmoored from historical norms in the next 10 to 20 years.

    • Judy on May 24, 2014 at 9:42 am

      Yes, I agree with ole polecat. The Church is always ahead of the game. Remember that Von Braun laughingly told his secretary or biographer that first the enemy would be Russia, then it would be asteroids and finally it would be Martians. He laughed at this idea. After all, Spielberg and others have bee n paving the way. This will make great theater. Ole gal Judy

  9. DanaThomas on May 22, 2014 at 6:25 am

    The New World parallel seems very apt.
    Let me add something to your analysis. While for most Christians and presumably for all popes, baptism is a serious matter, this is coupled with a reference (I can picture him smiling as he said it) to green men as children picture them (i.e. those cartoon images disseminated since the 50’s). This juxtaposing of the serious and the “goofy alien” meme seems designed to produce “cognitive dissonance” causing you to dismiss the whole thing, though the “serious” part still leaves some “nagging doubts” (e.g. there might actually be “others” out there) which are ideal for the manipulation of perception.
    But for people who get beyond that stage, and who follow the recent “disclosure” statements made above all by Jesuits, there is a lot to discover.
    For example, why the specific mention of Martians? And I think the answers to this can be found in Joseph’s “cosmic war” series.

    • MQ on May 22, 2014 at 9:04 am

      I can give my own 2 cents about why Martians vs any other planet:
      1. Mars is closest to us
      2. Mars has already had memes of contact, i.e. War of the Worlds, etc
      3. It is the planet closest to Earth in terms of livable conditions– Mercury/Venus, way too hot, the others are gas giants or way too cold. OK we can make an argument for Io or Europa, but for the avg person, they know where Mars is.

      As for Disclosure, this is like waiting for the freaking Rapture. Good luck with getting a straight answer from the govt that classified the bow and arrow during WWII.
      Of course, the mandarins could rightly guess some scenarios of how freaked out the populace might become the day “They” return. I’ve been to Tennessee, and I can tell you there are still a lot of folks today who are pissed that segregation isn’t legal anymore. And if those dear cousins aren’t visibly discernible from “us” (no convenient color coding), all the more confusing. I suppose the yokels will only have the use of high tech as their guidepost of who to hate. No I’m not only bagging on those in rural eastern TN, there are plenty of closed minded rednecks in any big city too.

      • DanaThomas on May 22, 2014 at 2:00 pm

        And Mars is associated with war…

  10. Aridzonan_13 on May 22, 2014 at 5:45 am

    I watched a YouTube segment featuring Richard Dolan and in it he was discussing “Disclosure” in front of a Gummint panel.. He made a very eloquent argument for them to come clean now.. Because, as he implied, after the event, there will be an avalanche of “What else were you lying about.” And the house of cards falls apart very quickly.. FedGov.Inc could not exist without the help of MSR (Main Stream Religion). The epic persecution of the Tin Foil Nation has at it’s core underpinnings the preservation of total control. Where we are forced to live in an obsolete monopoly based society. When disclosure comes, it will be extremely evident that we’ve been farmed. The blue pill crowd will get very angry and scared.. At that point the “Slow Burn” status quo will be faced will the one thing the PTB fears most, change.

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