NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM JUNE 5, 2014

Malaysia Air 370 is in the news again, this time, with very recent "eyewitness" reports... see the following articles:

Sailor says she saw Flight 370 Go Down in Flames

Oil Rig Worker Says He saw Malaysia Air Flight 370 go down

 

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

19 Comments

  1. Robert Barricklow on June 11, 2014 at 11:27 am

    I somehow doubt this “missing” flight
    is a Rumsfeld: “unknown unknown”.



  2. henry on June 10, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    Here is a little known yet crucial historical event that also involved “a plane full of Chinese passengers” which is worth of consideration in light of recent Malaysian flight MH370.
    http://bigconspiracies.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/did-the-cia-bomb-a-passenger-plane-in-1955/

    I too suspected that China may actually know something about the Malaysian flight MH370 incident, and why do i say that?
    Well, i’ve already provided news links to point out a possible “Israeli connection” to the incident, and i commented that “Israel is on the country’s strategic radar”. If that’s the case, then one would expect to see some kind of “response” by the Chinese as “aftermath” of it.

    And that “response” came in the form of recent high-level geopolitical visitations between China and Israel, as Israeli president Shimon Peres paid a “sudden” visit to China on April 8.
    Then in May, Liu Yandong, the Vice Premier of China also paid a “sudden” visit to Israel and met with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. Liu’s visit came after Netanyahu’s visit to Japan on May 12, after which there was a “sudden surge” of violent anti-Chinese demonstrations in Vietnam, sparked by territorial disputes between the two countries in the South China Sea.

    So, how is this related to the mystery of the disapearance of Malaysian flight MH370?
    Well, consider this, at the “Shangri-La Dialogue” held in Singapore early this month (a regional security forum formulated by a British think-tank which traditionally excludes PRC as participant), U.S.Secretary of Defense and Japanese prime minister used the convenient examples of territorial disputes in the East and South China Sea to put the Chinese delegation on the “defense” as Hagel described China’s behaviour as “destabilising and unilateral”, while speakers from the PLA slamed the remarks made by the US and Japan as ‘provocative’.

    Prior to this coordinated act between the U.S. and Japan in Singapore,(in complience with what was outlined by Shinzo Abe in last years WSJ interview, i.e. 1- the world still needs U.S. “leadership”; 2- Japan will play great role in regional security.) Malaysian prime minister Najib was paying a visit to China.
    Like Vietnam and Philipines, Malaysia also has territorial disputes with China in the South China Sea, but unlike them, Malaysia has no intention of escalating it, which in turn blocked any attempts at creating a “unified front” on behalf of ASEAN to act against China in the South China Sea, as was demonstrated (along with other ASEAN members) at previous APEC summits.

    Flight MH370 was one of the topics between the visiting Malaysian prime minister and the Chinese president, as Najib told Xi, “Malaysia will do all it can to continue the investigation of MH370 incident, until the truth and the whereabouts of the plane is uncovered..” And the man in charge of this investigation, Malaysia’s Minister of Defense(and acting Minister of Transport), Hishammuddin was among the Malaysian delegation.

    Another thing that makes me ponder, with regard to Najib’s recent visit, is he did not go straight to Beijing to meet with the Chinese leadership, instead he went to the ancient city of Xi’an first before travelled to the Chinese capital.
    This “oddity” could be nothing, but on the other hand it could be related to the disapearance of flight MH370. One needs to wait and see what’s gonna happen next, on and off the normal radar screen that is.

    So, on the one hand, i agree that no one is screaming “bloody murder”, but on the other hand, the fact that no one has screamed “bloody murder” doesn’t necessarily mean some of the geopolitical players don’t already know something about it. Considering these tentative if not obvious geopolitical situations, highlighted by recent geopolitical visitations and meetings, all happened after the “aviation mystery”.



    • LSM on June 11, 2014 at 6:22 am

      Hi henry,

      obviously someone knows where this plane is (or ‘went’) but they “ain’t talkin'”-

      “i agree that no one is screaming “bloody murder”- well, yes, exactly!- so why isn’t any nation doing this?!- if this plane was air-piracy abducted (or whatever) why aren’t China and Malaysia screaming it, pointing a finger from the rooftops?- both nations (certainly China) have to have the same surveillance capacities as the US/Russia, etc.;

      even if/IF the ‘stories’ about the joint US/Thai military exercises are ‘true’ and the plane was ‘accidentally’ shot down both China and Malaysia would, again, be screaming it from skyscrapers;

      this plane just… disappeared… (why can’t people wrap their minds around about things disappearing without any known “terrestrial” explanation?)-

      stay well!

      Larry



      • henry on June 11, 2014 at 10:14 am

        @”obviously someone knows where this plane is (or ‘went’) but they “ain’t talkin’”-”

        Who says they “ain’t talkin”, the Malaysian prime minister was just telling the Chinese president that “Malaysia will continue the investigation until the truth and the whereabouts of the plane is uncovered”.

        If nobody knows something why promise such thing in front of the Chinese leadership? Why are the Chinese press quoting him as saying such if the Chinese have absolutely no idea what’s going on? Are they really “cluseless” about what they are talking about, or are they trying to say something here?

        The fact Malaysia isn’t playing ball with U.S. policy of containment of China in the region actually amounts to “talkin”.
        Remember, its a Malaysian flight with most of its passengers being Malaysians and Chinese.Are you telling me the identities of the passengers has nothing to do with the disappearance? Therefore the geopolitics behind it has nothing to do with it?

        It seems “flight MH370 incident” has little to no effect on the Malaysian government’s geopolitical position, regardless of the “pseudo question” of whether the explanation behind the disappearance of flight MH370 is “terrestrial” or not. A “pseudo question” forwarded by those tend to downplay the very “terrestrial” aspect of the incident, in terms of “geopolitics”, how its changing in light of this aviation mystery.

        @”even if/IF the ‘stories’ about the joint US/Thai military exercises are ‘true’ and the plane was ‘accidentally’ shot down both China and Malaysia would, again, be screaming it from skyscrapers;”

        First of all, i did not claim the U.S. government or for that matter the U.S. military is responsible for it, not in this post, not in my previous ones. But i did voice my suspicion that “a rogue element within the U.S. military” may be responsible for it, and i mentioned it on the backdrop of a possible “Israeli connection” to the incident, in other words, “a rogue international elements”, which is part of the reason why i think nobody is pointing fingers at any particular nation because there was no particular nation involved.

        Secondly, besides the political complexity behind it, there is also the problem of “rogue technologies”. Are you telling me just because China has never screamed about the secret facility at Pine Gap, means the country has absolutely no clue about it? Just because they have never screamed about it, means the facility doesn’t exist? And even if they screamed about it, does it necessarily mean people would believe in them, or it would prevent earthquakes from hitting the country?
        If “flight MH370” is part of a secret high-tech war that’s been going on for timeless ages, then i don’t expect to hear those involved in it tend to talk about it and “the-off-the-book” technologies involved, especially such conflict is reaching some kind of “finale”. I think its precisely because that conflict has reached a tipping point, that prompted this kind of desperate act.

        @”this plane just… disappeared… (why can’t people wrap their minds around about things disappearing without any known “terrestrial” explanation?)-”

        The reason for me to draw the analogy between the incident in 1955 and the missing of flight MH370 is precisely i see “a repeat of history” here, in terms of geopolitical implications, and in terms of “what if” scenarios.
        So, by the same token, why can’t people wrap their minds around the idea that this “mystery” may have “terrestrial” explanation afterall?

        You claim no one has ever screamed anything about it.Really? Then why is former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir claiming “Boeing is responsible”?
        There are those so called “insider informations”(including American sources)on the disapearance, and they all point to “terrestrial” explanation.

        But because i know “insider information” is something “outsiders” cannot really prove(or disprove), i tend to focus less on those allegations, instead i’m trying to look at an area where i can actually see and prove something,independently. Just as Richard Hoagland has pointed out, what it means in terms of the geopolitical discussion that’s going on, that’s right, i’m not the only one who thinks this incident has a “terrestrial” explanation afterall.

        And I actually have my own “whackadoodle” theory regarding this ‘mystery’.
        Let’s just say the fact we are all still alive and talking means somebody out there knows exactly the potential consequence of the incident, and its more crucial than to know what happened to the flight exactly.



        • Joseph P. Farrell on June 11, 2014 at 10:27 am

          It IS a mystery. If it is a rogue element as you suggest, then that would tie the flight’s disappearance to a lot of other things possibly. Any ideas?



          • LSM on June 11, 2014 at 3:24 pm

            Hi Dr. Farrell; with your finely-honed incredibly insightful perspectives I bet you have more to impart to all of us with your incredible intellect than we have to impart to you on this subject (but you “ain’t talkin”)- but it’s OK; I think we all realize/appreciate you tread where many fear to tread (and I think all of us/your followers really support your endeavors otherwise none of us would be here) but there are certain areas where one in the public arena (like you, for example) doesn’t dare tread because it just may be, uh, “unhealthy”;

            it’s just my own personal, cheap, mega-octane speculation but maybe this plane hit a worm hole; I just don’t think we should rule this possibility out; mysterious disappearances are not limited exclusively to the 6 ‘designated’ Bermuda Triangles on this planet-

            please continue to be well Dr. Farrell-

            Larry



          • henry on June 12, 2014 at 1:48 am

            Dear Sir

            One thing i noticed shortly after the mysterious disappearance of Malaysian flight MH370 is the visible deterioration of America’s relationship with Israel, due to hawkish behaviors exhibited by Moshe Ya’alon, Israel’s defense minister.
            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10707558/US-accuses-Moshe-Yaalon-of-undermining-ties-with-Washington.html

            Listening carefully to what he was saying,
            – “Washington’s allies in the Middle East and Far East had voiced “disappointment” at its policies and pointed to events in Ukraine, where he accused the US of “demonstrating weakness”.”
            Evidently, Israeli hawks are “disappointed” about something in the “Far East”, the question is what and who is making the Israelis feel that way?
            – “If you sit and wait at home, the terrorism will come again,” he said. “This is a war of civilisations. If your image is feebleness, it doesn’t pay in the world. Nobody will replace the United States as global policeman. I hope the United States comes to its senses. If it doesn’t, it will challenge the world order, and the United States is the one that will suffer.”
            It appears Israel’s defense minister was in “war-time” mentality, the question is “war” with whom?
            – “The Obama administration’s decision to negotiate with Tehran had convinced him that Israel now had to fend for itself.”
            Israel’s desire to act “unilaterally” if it thinks its interests are “threatened”.

            Such hawkish behaviors have Washington “shocked” and “mystified”, clearly, there was some serious disagreement between the two, but over what exactly?
            Ya’alon made that address on March 17,two days later, on March 19, Obama comes out and says “solving Malaysia Flight 370 mystery is top priority”.
            Such development really left me pondering. MH370 vanished on March 8, why is the American president coming out 11 days after the incident and says “solving the mystery is top priority”.
            “solve”, how? “top priority”, why? Has the mystery of “Bermuda Triangle” ever been declared “top priority” by any POTUS?

            It’s the same problem with the early Chinese release of satellite images of suspected “debris” then the retracting of it.They released the images on March 13, but the satellite images were actually acquired on March 9, meaning they were looking for “debris” almost right after the plane had just gone “missing”.And they spent 3 days verifying their “discovery” then released the images on March 13 only to have it retracted almost immediately? Is their satellite capability that incompetent? or is there something else that’s going on?

            Regardless of what or who actually caused the disappearance, the matter of the fact is the incident created an opportunity for potential “terrorist” attack scenario. Going back to Ya’alon remarks, there was blatant and unmistakable threat of “terrorism will come again” and the desire to act “unilaterally”, against those perceived as “threat”. And it’s not just Ya’alon’s “talkin”, its also,
            – Israel adds airline safety procedures following Malaysian plane disappearance
            – Israel Fears Attack from ‘Hijacked’ Malaysian Flight MH370, Iran’s Role Still Suspected
            – Israeli Army Preparing to Attack Iran
            Evidently and arguably, Israel tried to use this “crisis of opportunity” to start a war with Iran(Something they have been trying to do for years). The question is, is it responsible for creating such “crisis of opportunity” in the first place?

            It’s a Malaysian flight bound to Beijing, with most of the passengers on board being Malaysians and Chinese. Do these facts have anything to do with its disappearance? Is there something going on between Israel and Malaysia?
            and there is, the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal made a verdict in December 2013, for the first time an international tribunal had convicted the State of Israel of “genocide”.
            Subsequently,when German chancellor Merkel visited Jerusalem in late February, a deal was signed with Israel under which Germany “would offer Israeli citizens consular assistance in states such as Indonesia or Malaysia where Israel has no official diplomatic representatio”, meaning Israeli citizens may be subject to Malaysian criminial investigation and charges, in light of the unprecedented Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal verdict against the state of Israel.Image other countries do the same, and not just to “Israel citizens” too.
            Would this development be viewed as “disappointment” in the “Far East” by Ya’alon? Would such behavior by the Malaysians be viewed as “challenge the world order” by Ya’alon?

            Plus, Ya’alon was also bragging about Israeli intelligence and military capabilities, just like what was observed on the byteshow, “arrogance about their military technology”.
            “Mr Ya’alon belittled the importance of American military aid to Israel in Monday’s address, saying the benefits flowed both ways thanks to Israeli intelligence and military inventions.
            “It isn’t a favour America is doing, it’s in their interest,” he said. “They get quality intelligence and technology. We invented Iron Dome. The wings of the F-35 stealth fighter, we invented.””

            My suspicion is both China and the U.S. know something about it. That’s probably why they have been looking for “debris” since day one, despite there was actually no “debris” to be found, it was just to keep the news people busy.
            But by “concluding” the plane has “crashed” somewhere in the ocean, indicating they probably are aware of the possibility of someone using this crisis of opportunity to do something that don’t really agree.
            That’s why i called it “another Cuban missile crisis moment “, because the missing of the plane isn’t really “top priority”, but the potential consequence of it is.
            Then, the fact the POTUS came so late to comment on the incident, and the comment came on the backdrop of deteriorating relation with Israel is perhaps not a coincidence.



        • Daryl Davis on June 11, 2014 at 12:49 pm

          I’ve wondered myself whether it would be possible for a well motivated, modern nation — one which did not share in the post-WWII Nazi-scientist spoils, yet one with a well-funded black project sector and a strong need to be a world player, e.g. Israel — to develop nonetheless into a PTB on an equal footing with the rest.

          They would seem well situated geographically both to guard old and to discover any new ancient treasures of cosmic import. Perhaps they also sought out and nabbed not only their former Nazi nemeses in Argentina but also their technologies? (Has the Vatican stepped forward, offering baptism to aliens, in order to preempt or otherwise antagonize the resurgent Jews??)

          The other, seemingly less probable explanation would be that a sub-group of breakaways has “gone rogue” from the original breakaways. That would be a very high stakes defection.

          But in neither case do I have any ideas as to the motive for the plane’s potentially forced disappearance, the meaning of the message sent, the intended recipient of the message, or the relative success of the operation.

          If it were merely a matter of killing some passenger, or all those on board, a simple bomb or a “mechanical malfunction” would have sufficed. What purpose would it serve to hide the evidence of the deed by hiding the entire wreckage?

          And if the intended message was actually to display a “disappearing” of a plane, how is this any more intimidating than shooting a plane down or imploding it from within? How many more planes could disappear before this new “impressive” secret technology had let itself “out of the bag” and become obsolete?

          Maybe this powerful new disappearing-act technology works just as well upon gold reserves as it does upon planes.



          • Joseph P. Farrell on June 11, 2014 at 5:10 pm

            …lol… I’ve wondered the same thing about the gold reserves myself!



          • LSM on June 12, 2014 at 8:21 am

            I wouldn’t doubt for a second this plane was carrying something “hidden” but what I still don’t understand for a second is why this plane just simply ‘disappeared’- or is there a technology out there (even unknown to China) that can disappear a flight (let’s hope the passengers didn’t suffer) and deliver a certain cargo somewhere?- but I would think if there was THAT much gold on the flight (are we to naively assume most commercial flights aren’t transferring at least a bit of gold or “whatever” to somewhere?)- I hardly think those who want to transfer gold would want to put all of their eggs in one basket (they’re too smart for that), unless they are for some unknown reason desperate at the moment- if so, WHY?;

            I dunno folks, we all seek a terrestrial explanation for things (like start with the un-eatable concept of gold) but the universe is vast; we just can’t account with our pea-brained logic for everything and we just must remember: Flight 370 just…disappeared…

            why can’t people just deal with the fact there are many unexplainable disappearances on this planet?-

            I rest my case-

            Larry



        • Levantine on June 12, 2014 at 2:19 am

          Henry: – “Washington’s allies in the Middle East and Far East had voiced “disappointment” at its policies and pointed to events in Ukraine, where he accused the US of “demonstrating weakness”.”
          Evidently, Israeli hawks are “disappointed” about something in the “Far East”, the question is what and who is making the Israelis feel that way?

          I see an Israeli hawk says Wash’s allies in the East are disappointed regarding Wash’s policies in general, and Ukraine in particular.

          Regarding the Malaysian airplane:

          I hear that the mainstream media and the highest-level politicians publicly focus on its disappearance, while at the same time it is exactly they that are guilty of obfuscating the case and withholding some information about it. That is curious, that’s anomalous. That’s even more certainly anomalous that the disappearance itself, because we simply lack data about the airplane, while we have a lot of data about what’s being said and released about it.

          So I would put the psychological aspect of this case above the physical.

          Whoever does this, doesn’t really mind that the whole world thinks about it. He might even prefer it.

          Personally, that tells me to clean house, in the moral sense. My moral self-image is where a future strike may well occur.



          • henry on June 12, 2014 at 4:36 am

            @”I see an Israeli hawk says Wash’s allies in the East are disappointed regarding Wash’s policies in general, and Ukraine in particular.”

            That’s if they really care about how Washington’s allies in the East feel.

            Malaysia is a Muslim country, the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal verdict would have influence on other Muslim countries in the ME, considering the Malaysians are strong support of Palestinian cause. (prime minister Najib went to Xi’an because there is a large Muslim population).
            I imagine this development in Malaysia would be a “disppointment” to them, or they wouldn’t need any German consulate help. Interesting subtile “changes” going on right now in the Islamic world, clearly, someone is really worried about it.

            @”I hear that the mainstream media and the highest-level politicians publicly focus on its disappearance, while at the same time it is exactly they that are guilty of obfuscating the case and withholding some information about it. That is curious, that’s anomalous. That’s even more certainly anomalous that the disappearance itself”

            The American embassy in Beijing was surrounded by angry Chinese protesters after the bombing of PRC’s embassy in belgrade in 1999.
            I don’t think people are ready to hear some of the shocking things. The mobs attacked foreigners that weren’t even Americans. It could get very ugly.

            @”Whoever does this, doesn’t really mind that the whole world thinks about it. He might even prefer it.

            Personally, that tells me to clean house, in the moral sense. My moral self-image is where a future strike may well occur.”

            I agree. And i maintain, it was an act by somebody out of desperation because something has reached a tipping point.



    • LSM on June 11, 2014 at 2:57 pm

      henry, please, I did not “accuse” you of anything! (sheesh!)

      I just simply stated my own opinion of the incident



      • henry on June 12, 2014 at 6:39 am

        Malaysia has already set a key precedent with Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal verdict.

        If the disappearance of Malaysian flight MH370 was an “act of war”, even if it was a “secret” one, the Malaysians may not let it just fade away so easily, the perpetrators may be charged with “war crimes” given the chance.

        That’s what left me wondering when i hear the visiting Malaysian prime minister Najib says “Malaysia will do all it can to continue the investigation of MH370 incident, until the truth and the whereabouts of the plane is uncovered.”

        He is either completely clueless, or is trying to say something.
        You must excuse my “stubborness” on the subject, When innocent lives are at stake.



        • LSM on June 12, 2014 at 8:38 am

          Hi henry,

          “Malaysia has already set a key precedent with Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal verdict”- I’m completely ignorant of this concept- could you please explain?- many thanks in advance-

          Larry



          • henry on June 12, 2014 at 9:31 am

            http://rt.com/op-edge/tribunal-israel-genocide-key-precedent-711/

            This is the problem, Malaysia has just done something ‘unprecedented’, then something ‘unprecedented’ just happened to its airliner?

            Even if its another “Bermuda triangle” tpye incident, i’m still keeping my fingers crossed that perhaps some day the plane, along with the people on it might return to us, just like what happened to those missing planes and ship from Spielberg’s movie, “Close Encounters of the Third Kind”.

            But i have to thank you for your input, because i realized this is something that’s beyond my ability to explain.

            Instead i should just focus my energy on my health and hope i live long enough to see how the incident would be looked at 70 years from now, by future generations.

            And if that’s not long enough, i might consider reincarnating back to this world.



  3. DownunderET on June 5, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    This is the first time I’ve heard the words “flames” and or “fire” from so called witnesses. We all know that if there is a problem with the aircraft, the pilot would immediately do a mayday call, but none was heard. I have changed my mind on this event and now consider it a definite “black op”, why, because of the obvious lack of “credible” evidence. There have been too many different theories by so called experts that anything that seems credible is dismissed. I also still believe that it will never be found, and for whatever reason, somebody wants it so.



  4. marcos toledo on June 5, 2014 at 11:29 am

    How about this scenario the creature fro Night Of The Demon rose from the sea and eat flight MH370. A la the cannibalistic giants of Attack On Titan Rod Serling will you please rise from the dead and write a gripping story around this incident. By the way had there been a fie on the plane don’t you think the pilot and copilot wouldn’t have reported it makes no sense.



  5. MQ on June 5, 2014 at 10:07 am

    The Katherine Tee report is interesting. I’ll note her saying that the aircraft in distress seemed not quite like the others flying above it, i.e. longer than it should be, ‘sodium’ lights, etc. So, some other planes probably saw something, or were they involved in creating the problem. Or maybe it was a meteor. If you see a plane, how would you reckon it’s maybe a meteor?? Curiouser and curiouser…I wonder if she could judge altitude of it vs the other planes.
    What is not clear is why she waited this long. Did she just make landfall at this point to report it (having seen the rest of the news on MH370)? If she had been home for a while, it’d seem stranger to sit on the data any longer.



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