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THAT “SPACE FENCE” THING AGAIN: SOME SPECULATIONS

A regular reader here, Ms. M.W. shared this, and since our attention has been on space matters lately, we need to take a look at it. It concerns that "space fence" or early warning system the Pentagon wants to construct to detect space debris that threatens satellites: the article is here:

Pentagon plans project to combat 'space junk chain reaction,' but is it really incoming space rocks they're worried about?

If you scroll down to the comments you'll see a remark by someone claiming to have worked for the space command who states that he(or she) attempted to get the Space Command to include asteroid detection as a system mission and requirement, and stating that radar is not adequate to this purpose, and that optical telescopes of medium aperture would be better. This, the commentator notes, was not implemented due to "politics."

I suspect that this might be the case. Let's recall that Russia's former president Dmitri Medvedev, approximately a month prior to the Chelyabinsk meteor incident called for a world wide asteroid detection and defense system, and that Russia could and should put into place the components of such a system at least for Russian protection, but that he admitted the project would require international cooperation. Telescopes were a component of his suggestions, indicating that his remarks most likely had been carefully prepared, and that Mr.. Medvedev had doubtlessly been briefed by his country's science and defense experts. This raises the prospect that the "politics" which the commentator refers to might have been as much about international cooperation on such plans as about internal domestic politics within the USA, or for that matter, within the Pentagon itself.

This raises the speculative possibility that we are indeed looking at the first steps in a system that ultimately is designed not only to serve as a kind of "space air traffic control" system, with its warnings of near collisions and so on, but also as the first component of a wider system designed precisely for asteroid defense. So what might one look for in coming months and years if this is the case?

One would look for precisely what Mr. Medvedev suggested in his remarks: a system combining both Earth-based and space-based radars and telescopes. That, it would appear, would be the indication that we are looking perhaps at the approach to the penultimate stage of Dr. Carol Rosin's recounting of what Dr. Von Braun told her would be the stages argued for the weaponization of space: first Communists, then terrorists, then "nations of concern," then asteroids, and finally, aliens...

The real question, in that context, then becomes: how did he know it? What process of policy-formation within those rarefied heights had led to the conclusion that there was a need for asteroid defense and a system to defend against aliens? Was it merely a conveniently invented threat to accomplish a more mundane earthly geopolitical agenda? Or was it real? And if real, what process led to the conclusion that the Earth needed a system to defend against aliens? Or was it somewhere between these two poles?

See you on the flip side....

21 thoughts on “THAT “SPACE FENCE” THING AGAIN: SOME SPECULATIONS”

  1. This is a fourth time I’m sending a comment with virtually the same content; it was “held for moderation” and unpublished the previous times. I guess it’s either the youtube link I’m going to omit this time, or Carol Roslin’s word “lie.”

    J.P. Farrell: “The real question, in that context, then becomes: how did he know it? What process of policy-formation within those rarefied heights had led to the conclusion that there was a need for asteroid defense and a system to defend against aliens? Was it merely a conveniently invented threat to accomplish a more mundane earthly geopolitical agenda? Or was it real? And if real, ….”

    Carol Rosin in her witness testimony to ‘The Disclosure Project’ said, quote:

    Von Braun said “We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie.”.

    Carol Rosin continued: “What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn’t mention a timeline but he said […] that the effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.”

    http://rense.com/general50/ec.htm

  2. J.P. Farrell: “The real question, in that context, then becomes: how did he know it? What process of policy-formation within those rarefied heights had led to the conclusion that there was a need for asteroid defense and a system to defend against aliens? Was it merely a conveniently invented threat to accomplish a more mundane earthly geopolitical agenda? Or was it real? And if real, ….”

    Carol Rosin in her witness testimony to ‘The Disclosure Project’ said, quote:

    Von Braun said “We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie.”.

    Carol Rosin: “What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn’t mention a timeline but he said […] that the effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.”

    http://rense.com/general50/ec.htm

    Video of Carol Rosin’s testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALLUuvsVkM

    I often see how dogs and cats apparently imagine things, presumably to relieve boredom. In contrast, my problem is to gather resources to think of the real enigmas as much as they deserve.

  3. Farrell: “The real question, in that context, then becomes: how did he know it? What process of policy-formation within those rarefied heights had led to the conclusion that there was a need for asteroid defense and a system to defend against aliens? Was it merely a conveniently invented threat to accomplish a more mundane earthly geopolitical agenda? Or was it real? And if real, ….”

    Excerpt from Carol Rosin’s witness testimony to ‘The Disclosure Project’:

    Von Braun said “We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie.”.

    Carol Rosin: “What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn’t mention a timeline but he said that it was going to be speeding up faster than anybody could possibly imagine. That the effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.”

    http://rense.com/general50/ec.htm

    carol Rosin’s testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALLUuvsVkM

    Regarding your “real” assumption: I regularly see dogs and cats apparently imagining things, presumably to relieve boredom.

  4. I am so excited — and I’m willing to bet you are, too, Joseph…about your upcoming opportunity to meet Dr. Carol Rosin in person and get her read on Von Braun….was he chuckling because it was all just a ridiculous story he was aware was going to be perpetrated on humanity….or was he aware of some basis of reality for the end-game.

    And, if rumors that aliens were already infiltrating or beginning their behind the scenes control program, was his chuckle really his inside irony that that aliens themselves would roll out a scenario that would lead to defending against aliens! Just some high-octane “what-if’ing” here…

    There are so many ways to turn this cube….I hope you get down under it for us.

  5. Latest on Operation Gladio bought to the USA: Gabby Giffords, 2006 Jewish Center to the latest shootings in Las Vegas & Ohio; the tie-in to “Operation Longevity”; and the probability of an act of Congress being passed in the dead of night, Federal Reserve 1913 style, to confiscate all guns in the US. The financial collapse around the bend as the BRICSA unpeg from the dollar. The USA tender-box of absolute poverty spreading like fire. The credit slow-down that is manifesting itself in empty food distribution centers showing itself. June 22, massive worldwide nuclear strikes?
    All this in the 2nd half with Dennis Cimino
    http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/06/tom-and-tommy-dennis-cimino.html

    1. June 22nd? That would interrupt with the World Cup. Speaking of which, FIFA’s president Sepp Blatter recently made the following supposed light-hearted remark…

      “From north to west to east and south … and we shall wonder if one day our game is played on other planets and then one day we won’t have the World Cup, we will have interplanetary contests.”

      When taken into the same context as the comments made by the Pope, Bill Clinton etc. regarding alien life, you do have to wonder whether there’s a social enginerring agenda at play. Afterall, the catholic church and football (a religion to many) is followed by hundreds of millions of people worldwide and as big an audience as you could hope to capture.

      http://www.firstpost.com/sports/ahem-star-gazing-blatter-predicts-interplanetary-world-cup-1566335.html

      1. In reading the above article sagat1 I couldn’t but help thinking the game he was referring to was: to game the people into believing the rules designed for fair play, aka for the wealthy to rule(above the law).
        In regards to June 22, that was a question referenced by Fetzer regarding research done by the community that looks for signs in the media movies, tv series, etc. In this particular case it was mainly sourced through Simpson episodes. Other sources were then tapped into,; however, the guest, Cimino, didn’t give much weight to it.

      2. From the heart of televised mass “sports”. This must be some sort of social engineering as you say. This sudden statement (“lighthearted” of course) on ET meme right now is a dead giveaway.

  6. I really like your questions, seems that the “whys” are always the best. Dr. Von Braun, being from within the Nazi establishment, knew of their findings of so many ancient documents, and those documents often speak of the gods returning at some later date. Those same documents don’t always depict the gods in the most favorable light, so they are something to be guarded against. Also, consider the issue of ownership…if humans are owned by these gods then who wouldn’t want to prevent their return? I don’t know if this is what Dr. Farrell was referring to with his question, but it was my first reaction.

    My second reaction is probably not anything Joseph would recommend, but I’ll put it out there anyway. The book of Revelation in the Bible speaks of the return of Jesus, and if the Nazis were reading all the old texts, then the Bible may have been one of their sources. Perhaps they want to try to prevent this return more than any other, and would even be willing to do business with the other gods in order to achieve that purpose. I’ve wondered before if the Papal telescope in Arizona had anything to do with this.

    At any rate, I don’t think the ultimate goal here is the incoming meteors and asteroids.

  7. Hi Joseph,

    Some interesting historical information that might pertain to this comes from Linda Brown’s biography of her father “The Goodbye Man”. She said that during the founding of NICAP one of her jobs was to categorize UFO reports her father (Townsend Brown) said to set aside “the ones that wobble, they are ours”. So here during this time period we had functional saucer craft and so did the “others” as Dr. Von Braun hinted at during a similar time period…
    Max.

    PS. Have you seen the new book on the Philadelphia Experiment?
    http://www.thebookpatch.com/BookStore/hoax/c482362c-585a-492a-9bba-3e6a313eeecd?isbn=9781620301807
    The author’s two daughters worked at a nursing home in a small town in Colorado and took care of Carl Allen during the last years of his life. The author and her son became interested in Carl’s story, did their own research and self published a book about it. One of the interesting things in the book was that Carl Allen said the DE 173 was not the “experimental” ship that actually took part in the experiment. It was DE 168 another similar class Destroyer Escort. From the Wikipedia entry for DE 168 “Amick left the east coast early in September for shakedown training out of Bermuda. During this cruise, the ship was also engaged in operations testing experimental defensive devices intended to protect American ships against acoustic torpedoes.” Interesting confirmation of the timeline of the Philadelphia Experiment in the fall of 1943!

  8. How long have we had hundreds of satellite’s in orbit around the earth?, either communication or spy satellites, their number has increased dramatically over the years. Now even ten years ago nobody was talking about some kind of “protection” for the satellites from passing “debris”, so why now?
    It is understandable that the people who have invested millions on these satellites, do want their property to be “safe”, but there has been NO MENTION of this “threat” until now.
    The word “smokescreen” comes to mind here, and if our genetic cousins plan to “take some out”, then obviously there has to be a plan B. The protection of property has been in existence forever, it’s just how you go about it.

  9. As a general rule, one may confidently assume that no publicly announced U.S. aerospace project could ever represent the vanguard of American technological progress. In this case in particular, taking into account both the recent Chelyabinsk meteor over Russia and its fortuitous demise, as well as the fast-gathering Colder War, it would seem far more likely that the U.S. covert community is signaling to whomever it may concern:

    “Hey, we MIGHT not ALREADY possess this “fence” technology; and therefore, if a certain would-be growing hegemonic power alliance — or any of its constituent members — wished to find a chink in our glorious American armor, they might invest quite heavily and with meteoric speed in that general direction…”

    It’s likely just old-school Cold War disinformation. Nevertheless, now the American aerospace industry receives 6 billion dollars “on the books”. Well, okay, they do have bills to pay just like the rest of us; and bearer bonds are difficult to cash.

    But with respect to the meteor-spotting technology itself, might the Earth’s ionosphere, in addition to acting as a shield against energy/radiation, or perhaps even against matter as well — might it not also serve as a sort of focal lens — turning the entire planet into a giant rotating eyeball, one perhaps much larger and more powerful than that which blazes over Tolkein’s Mordor, whose pupil might be dilated by HAARP and whose optic nerve could be rooted in Langley, VA or the Pentagon?

  10. Thought I’d mention the 2.4 meter instrument at MRO:
    http://www.mro.nmt.edu/about-mro/2-4-meter-telescope/
    When I took their tour a while back they said about one
    third of the installation’s workload was looking for
    near-Earth objects and identifying possible collision
    trajectories. This is a very ‘fast’ telescope (rapid
    pointing/repositioning) and is ideally suited to NEO
    searches, I’m told.

  11. I am wondering what the USA real motives for this space fence. A fence can keep intruders out or can prevent escapes. So is it both and if there’s intelligent life in space what does the USA and other space powers know about them and when did they know it. And do the powers that be fear they might what to exploit or help oppress people on this planet.

    1. Yes, also for fencing somebody in: this the more traditional “flip side” of all these space and/or upper atmosphere “defence systems” such as ICBM early warning etc. And maybe designed to counter “non-coventional” propulsion vehicles, coming from “down here” or “up there”? Might (optical) telescopes be less useful in this case?

  12. Just finished reading The Corruptionist by Christopher G Moore.
    In it the private detective says in dialogue,
    “Murder on a scale we’re talking about is “politics”.

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