Daily News

THE USS DONALD COOK INCIDENT, & INDIA’S NEW GOVERNMENT, AND ...

This article was sent to me by a regular reader here in India, Mr. K.B., and this one, folks, I have to share, for it presages the type of geopolitical reassessments that must be taking place in the wake of the USS Donald Cook incident in the Black Sea. Briefly, for those who do not know of this incident, a Russian Sukhoi fighter bomber, which was unarmed,  flew in a mock attack run at the one of the US Navy's Aegis class missile frigates that had been deployed to the Black Sea in the wake of the Ukrainian crisis. According to the story, the Sukhoi approached, was seen on the Donald Cook's radar, when suddenly, the entire system went "down," and the Russian aircraft was no longer seen on the ship's radar. The Donald Cook quickly retired to a port in Romania, which we assume may have been Constanza.

Now, apparently, there is some fallout in India from this incident, as the following analysis from an Indian website outlines:

Will Modi Look at Russia with New Eyes? An Analsis

The article spells out the incident, then goes on to note that the incident was flagged to bring to the attention of India's top leadership. Note also the article's attention to the fact that by concentrating on trying to design an all-in-one stealth jet fighter, that many think America is losing its technological edge in air power. And, as the article also indicates, the new Russian Su35 outperformed its American counterpart at the recent Paris air show, and there is no doubt that Russia was sending another message by unveiling the aircraft.

The real consequence of all of this however, is the growing perception by many western leaders that America's technological edge may be slipping, and with it, its geopolitical influence; the view from India is quite clear:

To cut a long point short, policy makers around the world tuned to geopolitical shifts have been aware of this changing equation. The French decision, for instance, to militarily cooperate with Russia by supplying it with Mistral class amphibious assault ships, as the strategic Russian decision to first unveil (the) Su-35S in Paris, is a concrete reformulation of policy at the ground level aligning with the new geopolitical realities. The Indian policy makers, more than the others, have been actually aware of it, having seen how upgraded MiG-21 Bisons and Su-30MKIs performed against American machines in the various Cope India exercises.

In other words, India's defense experts are simply not impressed with America's air technology, and the Donald Cook incident only emphasized the fact.

What disturbs here is the implications, for inspite of billions of dollars poured into such projects, Russia, which spends nowhere near the same amount on defense, appears to be able to design conventional systems that are both cheaper, and better. And that has to have them thinking their long-term strategic interests in Berlin, Paris, London, Rome, and Madrid, though they will never announce those concerns... at least, not yet.

That's the problem with creating huge hidden systems of finance to finance your special black projects: the return on the dollar declines significantly, as corruption inevitably enters the system.

Oh...and by the way, in case you missed it, India recently overtook Japan as the world's third largest economy(World Bank: India Overtakes Japan as World's Third Largest Economy). Yes, that's right, India, after China, is now the big player in Asia, and its economy is larger than Russia's, and it's looking at that interesting Russian technology.

My bet is, New Delhi and Moscow have lots to talk about, and they won't be inviting Christine Lagard, or Barack Obama.

See you on the flip side...

24 thoughts on “ THE USS DONALD COOK INCIDENT, & INDIA’S NEW GOVERNMENT, AND ...”

  1. I must say that I am fascinated by Dr Farrell work on WW 2 and Nazis, as well about ancient events, and I dont like either many of USA (or “west”) policies, but neither many of Russia.

    I must disagree however here. The Donald Cook incident is more of a made up story that originated on a blog in Russia. Yes, a pair of Su-24 planes was there and one of them simulated few attacks on American destroyer.
    But how a Russian blogger (or even the Russian pilot) know how worked (or not) the electronic systems at the bord of the destroyer? How did they know the computer screens go “blank” or if other sensors than the radar (passive ones, like infrared etc that work independently and guide the close defense of the ship from what I understand) were taken out ?

    I am Romanian and I remember the visit of that ship here from the news, it was a planned one and the ship stayied here for couple weeks I think (is something with international conventions about foreign ships staying in Black Sea just a limited amount of time in peace time) and have few days of exercises with our Navy in Black Sea.
    The ship even allowed to be visited when reached the Constanta port, and no one ever heard (and is quite very hard to believe) that 27 officers from the ship signed their resignation soon as they reached the ground, on the basis they were scared by what the Russian plane did to the ship (as the story said).

    I think this was just a story made up by some Russian blogger, for who knows what reasons, and then after floated a little on Russian internet was picked by some Russian media and spread from there in India too.
    But frankly, I consider it just that, a made up story (the only real things are the Su-24 flying around when the ship was in international waters and the ship coming to Constanta) with no connection with reality.

    I found this thing more interesting (and realistic)

    http://io9.com/one-of-russias-last-remaining-early-warning-satellites-1595985431

    “”The Russian Ministry of Defense has announced that its only geostationary early-warning satellite — the Cosmos-2479, launched two years ago — is no longer functioning.”

    “That incident prompted Moscow to widen its field of vision by launching geostationary satellites — remaining in the same position relative to a stationary observer on Earth — which were designed to look straight down at the U.S.

    That additional capability is now gone. And, with only two early-warning satellites, Russia’s period of surveillance has dropped from 24 hours to 3 hours per day. “”

    About the same time with this the Russian Parliament revoked the law that allowed president Putin to send the Russian army in Ukraine whenever he considered necessary and without needing their approval.
    Of course, they did that at the order and request of same Putin (even if not officially) and is a sign that they back down officially, because of something.
    Sure, they still support unofficially the separatists from eastern Ukraine but is hard to predict how that will end.
    Ukraine just signed (alongside Moldova and Georgia) the treaty of association with European Union and the Russia sphere of influence seem to crumble more and more.

  2. I agree with Lost that a lot about the Cook story seems made up, it just smacks of Russian propaganda, especially when one reads other versions of that story which make a lot more sense. Those sorts of flybys seemed to be a big part of the Cold War with Russia, and now Russia seems bent on creating another version of that same scenario and using some of the same tactics. India looking to buy military equipment from Russia should surprise no one as they are part of the BRICS nations.
    Does anyone really care who wins an air show? A nation would be extremely foolish to put their best stuff out there for all the world to see. Just my take on it.

    1. Such flybys where indeed common during Cold War, I saw even clips with Soviet ships ramming US ships in same Black Sea, near Crimea, during Cold War. Sure, American ships coming at the edge of Soviet teritorial waters of Crimea was quite a trolling from their side.

      About India and Russian equipment, I see they have a long tradition for that but is not that they dont buy from Europe or US sometime. They signed a deal with France for Rafale jet fighters (they have a program with Russians too for a new generation jet fighter) and I understand they had chosen AH-64 American attack helicopters over Russian Mi-28 attack helicopters for example.
      I think they try to get as best available around, even if lean more heavily toward Russia

  3. “renegade” internet historian Douglas Dietrich has continually stated the US Department of Defense is waaay behind times (another word for it is ‘incompetent’) and yet he continues to be chided for his viewpoints beyond mercy; by the way, provided link to referenced article does not function here in Germany (at least on my computer);

    anyway, I don’t doubt for a second the hidden system of finance is supporting a secret space program but I can’t believe every cent goes to that; a lot of hush money has to be involved as well;

    “The real consequence of all of this however, is the growing perception by many western leaders that America’s technological edge may be slipping”- well, was America ever really ahead?- look at Nazi Germany’s technologies; or were the Nazis used/funded by the US to do the US’ dirty work?- haven’t ruled that out-

    if the US seems to be lagging behind it’s because the US accepted a Trojan horse, a US creation that later balked and kneed the US in the groin-

    “they won’t be inviting Christine Lagarde, or Barack Obama”- maybe not even Merkel-

    stay well all-

    Larry

    1. Effective mass industrial production and 18 year old farm boys who’d been driving tractors for 4 years: neither being things the Nazis brought to the war effort. And those two things are more important than almost anything else–okay well the US and England had entirely broken German and Japanese codes. And the Japanese didn’t have effective mass industrial production either.

      The Soviets did mass industrial production of tanks real well, not the Germans. And like the not particularly good US tanks, the Soviet tanks could be repaired in the field, something impossible with German tanks. So no matter how good the armor or gun, a tank is nearly useless if it can’t move and can’t be quickly fixed.

      Neither rockets nor jet engines (also a separate English invention) nor high speed jet powered planes had much to do with the Allies winning the war. And the myth that the Nazis were about to build a swarm of jet fighters to to destroy the RAF and USAAF is silly, because jet engines require special metals from Africa and that wasn’t going to happen. Nazi jets simply couldn’t fly for more than some hours before the engine needed to be replaced.

      Transistors are an invention from the 1920s in Utah.

      So that leaves a possible Nazi nuclear weapons program, which for some reason wasn’t used. And very effective Nazi subs, well effective until the Allies could put radar ships and planes.

      After the war, sure Nazi rocket gear leads to satellites, and smaller digital computers and fast jet fighters like the F86/Mig 15. But note the Soviets (now Russians) built better rocket engines than the USA.

      1. we’ve all been taught to focus on Nazi Germany as the most advanced nation during WW2; so which nation was industrialized FASTER (thanks to western bank-rolling- just like behind Germany) than any other?- Japan-

        although I have the utmost respect for Dr. Farrell’s research I just don’t think we should completely rule out Douglas Dietrich’s testaments about the Roswell crash; I wouldn’t doubt NAZI technology was behind it but I think we must ask ourselves if this technology was their own invention or did they get it from other sources?-

        as Dr. Farrell stated in his monumental “Roswell and the Reich” the recovered bodies might have been used pawns due to too much interbreeding in Japanese prefectures…

        so if the bodies were Japanese, from where did they originate? (stupid rhetorical question)-

        Asians are not exactly stupid; “the Japanese didn’t have effective mass industrial production either”- they most certainly did!; look at the historical naval imbalance of power in the Pacific during the 20’s/30’s in favor of the Japanese and the initial superiority at least at the beginning of the war of the light-weight, alacrity of the Japanese Zero plane (thanks to Mitsubishi)-

        I could continue but will spare you and others with my gleaned knowledge- don’t want to bore anyone-

        stay well!

        Larry

        1. L:

          In fact the Zero was not built in mass quantities, it was hand-built like the English Spitfire–entirely unlike the P51, P40 or P38, B17, B24 etc.

          No one for a second disputes that the Japanese could build good aircraft, it’s being able to do it by the 10s of thousands. The English didn’t do it either.

          In the 1950s, Argentina with the help of various Nazis built very effective jet fighter aircraft, very like the F86/Mig15, but could only do so in limited hand-built quantities.

          There’s also the fact of John Garand’s guns carried by US soldiers and marines. Incredibly durable, fast, accurate, and in the case of the larger one, death by a single bullet; these had been perfected from the 1920s onward and were in mass production at the end of the 1930s in the US. Put in the hands of farm boys who’d grown up with rifles these guns were a big deal in a battle; it’s that truck driving thing but with guns this time.

          There are problems with the idea of Nazi or Japanese tech being what crashed in Roswell in 1947. The tech is too perfected. So if it were a human craft, it were likely something separately developed by some other party–perhaps starting in the late 19th century.

          And if something alien to earth crashed outside of Roswell in 1947, that something may have still have been human operated, and in any event had probably been investigating nuclear weapons held at the air base. Odd things had been sighted in the skies near the air base for weeks before the crash.

          1. Lost,
            You are right on concerning the M1 Garand. I loved it. It was accurate and fundamentally built. We learned to field strip it and reassemble within a very few minutes while blind folded back in the early 60s. Thanks for the memory.

            db

          2. Don,

            Perfected by a government employee working on it from the 1920s into the 1940s.

            There’s a long Popular Mechanics article that Google scanned and posted–Wikipedia will probably link it.

            In typical Popular Mech language–it’s a “super gun” for the coming war. But this time they were correct.

            I’ve never even shot one, just handled the modern civilian version in a gun shop. (Doesn’t use a drop forged breech so not as durable as the ones Garand was building in the 1930s.)

            Odd how everyone going on about the AK47 or some Nazi assault rifle forgets this gun. I guess unlike the AK it’s not cheap to build.

            And mass production of 10 wheeled trucks is really important, and totally ignored. Even the Soviets used many GM, Ford and Chrysler, probably International too, trucks that the US sent into the Soviet Union thru Iran.

  4. I really had a long post go ‘poof’ when I pressed the ‘enter’ key for that few words, “just the beginning”.

    Basically I’m reading Capital by Rana Dasgupta. It’s a superb nonfiction work of India past, present, and future – with respect to capital. In it he runs parallel to Dr. Farrell’s and Catherine Austin Fitts privatization scenario(as he starts to conclude in his last few chapters). The conclusion of the book, and the aforementioned long post, was that India is currently running closely with the Russian oligarch’s modus operandi. Indeed, the American roaring 20s, the Russian roaring 90s, are now being mimicked in India’s 2is Century of India’s New Rich. Their philosophy of using catastrophes to get rich is just the beginning. (Corruption is a BIG Plus in an economy; in fact, it’s a MUST HAVE!)

  5. Sounds very WWF.. Where both countries’ MIC would do well by having the other as the Boogie Man.. War w/o End Amen needs new monsters under the bed to keep the game alive.

  6. Conflating publicized reports of global developments with whatever may be unfolding behind the black curtains seems at best a quixotic endeavor. Wouldn’t it be safer to assume that these conventional U.S. fighter jets built in publicly funded projects could only be showcasing dummy innovations that themselves intentionally mislead as to the direction and extent of American R&D?

    Could Putin really be naive enough to believe that he’s besting the very best technology of the West — including that of the PsTB — whether in the case of the USS Donald Cook or elsewhere? It’s more likely that the Russians are now exploiting an apparent willingness of the “American” PsTB to let our conventional U.S. military die on the vine and twist in the wind.

    But does anyone truly believe that the BRICSA nations will be uniting upon a higher ground than the low ground upon which America stood? Do the leaders and the governments of these nations give anyone confidence that all its members will serve as models for human rights, political integrity and financial transparency?

    Yes, an historic, public global power shift appears to be unfolding. But what we witness underway today might just be a simple case of “dialectical hegemony”. The pendulum swings the other way, but by now the clock makers have, to a man, purchased Rolex watches.

    Or maybe Karen Hudes has it right. Maybe the “good guys” now have the “bad guys”/PsTB on the run. If it’s to be a new BRICSA world then, the future doesn’t look as bright to me as it does to her — unless some of these new “white hats” riding onto our scene have decidedly gray or blue skin.

    1. Absolutely.

      Funny about the Rolexes, those primitive time keeping devices, depending on sprung metal to move.

      Somehow I’m betting a better idea of time is part of the solution, for the entirety of humanity.

      If this “Donald Cook” event really did occur in anything like the manner claimed in the rumors, it seems more likely that the ship (or some party aligned with the US) continued to easily track the Mig, but the ship left quickly to make it seem as if the failure in the face of “new” Russian tech would provoke confusion and retreat.

      Do you really think people who run the EMP armed ships like the “Cook” don’t have any idea of how to respond to things disappearing from radar? Or don’t know how to respond to the use of exotic weapons to disable the “Cook’s” “radar”?

      1. That’s a critical question, Lost:

        To what extent in fact has American military hardware been upgraded with the VERY latest high-energy, offensive and defensive capabilities? (Were it given anti-gravity technology, the ship might have to be recommissioned the USS Donald Duck.)

        Isn’t it possible that our western PsTB have grown relatively more stingy than their Russian counterparts with the sharing of their stronger, blacker technologies. Putin might then indeed enjoy a high-tech weapons advantage with respect to conventional forces.

        And the proverbial ball has bounced back into the court of the western PsTB. Do they upgrade the American arsenal or continue to degrade it?

        Are they in fact so desperate for money now that they’re shrinking the U.S. military to nothing — perhaps having judged that this New BRICSA World Order would be a more easily psy-op managed and therefore a more easily fleeced flock?

        Who knows?

        But the sort of brinkmanship exhibited during the USS Donald Cook incident — if true — likely only mirrors that which occurred throughout the Cold War, often as a ploy by each side to learn more about the others’ capabilities — dueling submarines and the like. Both sides plagiarizing the “Art of War”.

    2. Daryl Davis: Or maybe Karen Hudes has it right. Maybe the “good guys” now have the “bad guys”…

      Karen Hudes deserves a critical discussion, that appears to be lacking online. While she looks bright and honest, her story sounds like a travel atop a soap bubble. “We’re winning!!”, she says. Ummm… centuries and millennia of struggle, trillions in black budgets, millions of tragedies, – and an untouched group of bank accountants are ‘winning’? And they even praise themselves (through her) in public? There is *something* to what she’s saying but her “story” is a near-total blur.

      1. I agree, Levantine.

        Karen Hudes appears to be a kind, well-placed, highly-intelligent useful idiot. Anyone who could climb as high as she did — into the service of the World Bank — only to THEN discover that she’s surrounded by scoundrels and psychopaths, has betrayed a very silly idealism.

        But it’s now her gullibility on display. Hearsay evidence that the ancient tyranny of “homo capensis” has finally ended inspires little hope that her “sources and contacts” are either well vetted or well intended.

        Nothing would please me more than to see her story vindicated. It seems at least as likely, though, that she’ll soon have shocking new details about Al Capone’s vault.

  7. Looks like the USA is still stuck in the mind set of selling glass beads and mirrors to the natives And selling and equipment and weapons that are over priced and don’t work to the military and they called themselves capitalist how ironic. Your first link doesn’t work. These clowns must be in the pay of the USA adversaries the way they operate.

      1. Except India is far from a unified country, it’s more akin to 18th or 19th century Italy, with more languages.

        The “pure” strain of Hinduism is somewhat of an invention of the English in their colonial days.

        And India has been on friendly terms with Russia for at least 50 years; that includes buying weapons.

  8. A lot about the “Donald Cook” story seemed made up.

    Like why if the radar failed, or couldn’t see an obviously existent plane, would the ship leave the area immediately without doing extensive testing. I know I’d want to see if such an event repeated and record as much data as possible as long as there was no great risk of starting a war.
    Unless the ship leaving is a feint in reverse–seems much more likely, if this happened at all. When UFOs buzzed the White House in the 1950s, well documented, did the US simply stop the use of conventional air defense systems around Washington DC?

    Now absolutely, with better science and a better understanding of physics things can sometimes be done much more cheaply in what appear to be conventional packages. Russia is still a big manufacturer of audio tubes, and that kind of thing has uses transistors don’t. Polarized hydrocarbons sure stick to metal yet remain slippery, so massively reduce engine wear–another Soviet invention. There are also examples from things like acupuncture.

    So no it’s not at all surprising that say France or India is looking to purchase military gear from Russia trade services in some manner.

    It’s long been rumored that “stealth” aircraft developed by the US can readily be seen on old, 1950-60ss, radar systems. Suggesting why that freighter going from Cuba to North Korea, ostensibly carrying grain, was also carrying ancient radar gear. Somewhere the North Koreans also obtained, or made, EMP weapons used to scramble the data centers of big South Korean industrial concerns–or so I’ve been told by someone in the EMP weapons protection business.

    Stealth gear in the US has always seemed like a distraction used to test something else, materials, engines, exotic manufacturing, flight control computers.

Comments are closed.