RT: 13 AIRPLANES DISAPPEAR FROM RADARS IN CENTRAL EUROPE DURING ...
As most of you know, during the last weekend of June, I was honored to be invited to be one of the speakers at the Secret Space Program/Breakaway Civilization conference in San Mateo, California. While this was happening, my email pile grew to enormous proportions, and a number of stories occurred that require some commentary, no matter how belated that may be. (One reason for my late commentary on some of these stories during the next couple of weeks is that I had to schedule five weeks' worth of blogs in order to cover the period of my absence during the conference, so I beg your indulgence the next couple of weeks as I attempt to "catch up" with some of these stories in the blogs). In any case, here's RT's short article on the story:
‘Unprecedented’: 13 aircraft mysteriously disappear from radars in heart of Europe
This article is so short, it's worth citing in full, with the italicized portions representing what, to my mind anyway, represents the "story hidden between the lines":
"A total of 13 aircraft suddenly vanished off radars for about 25 minutes on two occasions over Austria and neighboring countries, Austria's flight safety monitor said, calling for an EU probe into the “unprecedented” incidents.
"The flights vanished from air traffic controllers’ screens in Austria on June 5 and June 10 for 25 minutes each time, Marcus Pohanka of Austro Control – Austria’s flight safety organization – said Thursday.
"Air traffic control in neighboring regions of Germany and the Czech Republic also reported similar problems.
"Pohanka said the location, height, and identity of the 13 aircraft vanished over Austria both times, in what he called “unprecedented” incidents, AP reported.
"He added that some neighboring countries had experienced similar problems. The daily Kurier, based in Vienna, elaborated that similar problems were experienced by flight controllers in Munich and Karlsruhe in Germany and in Prague, Czech Republic.
"Poahanka declined to say which airlines and planes were involved, but suggested that some may have been passenger jets, which fly at high altitudes. The EU’s Eurocontrol and European Aviation Safety Agency will investigate the incidents.
"Poahanka stressed that at no time were any of the planes in danger, as extra air traffic controllers were immediately called to their posts and emergency measures were brought in, which included immediately establishing voice contact with the pilots and the widening of flight corridors.
"The Kurier cited an unnamed expert as saying that the problem was most likely to do with interference between the aircraft transponders and the ground."(Russia Today, "‘Unprecedented’: 13 aircraft mysteriously disappear from radars in heart of Europe," June 13, 2014, bold-italics emphasis added).
Now note the main points:
- 13 aircraft over Austra disappeared from radar;
- A similar problem was reported in Germany and the Czech republic, implying that the actual number of airplanes affected may be higher than 13;
- Emergency measures were initiated; and,
- An unknown source implied that the problem was due to interference between aircraft transponders and ground air traffic control.
It's the last point that is the crux of the issue, for interference with transponders implies an "interferer", and that implies someone with the motivation and technology to do so. Additionally, there are the usual internet rumors - one or two that crossed my email desk - that allege that all of this occurred during a NATO exercise. But exercise or not, the interference implies an interferer, with the technology and motivation to do so.
In the post-Malaysia Air flight 370 world, this incident gives one pause. I cannot exorcise the nagging intuition that somehow, the two incidents are related; indeed, I cannot get rid of the nagging intuition that perhaps the USS Donald Cook incident might be related, for Russia clearly demonstrated a capability during that incident. If the "unknown source's" allegations are true, then someone reached into the air traffic control system of central Europe, and created a disruption.
The question is, who?
My high octane speculation? I doubt very much any of the BRICSA nations would have sufficient motivation to risk such an incident. For imagine if something had gone tragically wrong: if that had happened, the Western oligarchs would have ramped up their media band organs and churned out some spin on their media carousels and pointed the finger of blame at those nations.NATO was apparently conducting drills at the time, and most here know the drill about drills: real time operations are often piggy-backed into such drills. But still... if the BRICSA nations had pulled such a stunt, and it had gone somehow wrong, just to send "a message," the message would have backfired colossally. Could it be "radical Islamic terrorists", the convenient and most-favored-villain in today's world? Possible, but if so, then the technology to do so, not to mention the intelligence organization to do so, would have had to have come from somewhere else. Could it have been the insane oligarchs of the West? Well, from the point of insanity, they'd be crazy enough to stage such a demonstration to the countries of central Europe, and note, two of the three countries mentioned - Austria and the Czech Republic, and Germany - are all countries dominated by the third country mentioned, Germany, which has been a-less-than-compliant lap dog lately(how dare they ask for their gold back? how dare they try to cement stronger relationships with Russia? &c). But the strategy is risky, for all the reasons mentioned before.
So in other words, in the end, we're left with questions and no firm foundation for speculation. It's anybody's guess.
And there's always the possibility that it was just a fluke, an accident. A simultaneous failure of transponders....
.... Nah!
See you on the flip side....
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Due to how the investigation of the flight 370 incident is developing and due to information like that in this blog post, we are now starting to get some confirming details about it all, it’s very interesting! We know A LOT at this point. Please read carefully. Here is what we know. We know that both the transponder and the ADS-B were remotely disabled in a very timely pre-planned way. We know that a few minutes later the plane diverted from its planned trajectory, initially west, then south and that this was not done by anyone inside the cockpit, it was carried out remotely. We know that the plane did not crash into the Indian Ocean. It decreased its altitude very much in order to avoid all radars. It was temporarily surrounded by two or three stealth fighter crafts during the course of the disappearance because without the satellite pings the flight could not be safely routed remotely on this altitude. We know that the plane did not enter the east side of Australia, nor very near the australian west coast. According to witnesses we know it flew over the Maldives in a southerly direction and never landed on the Maldives and that according to the engine data and the radar traces of coming from north direction over the Maldives it did not fly far beyond the Maldives. Because the US military has kept such a low profile in the investigation, although they have the technology and information dominance to truly reveil this, we know there is a cover up going on. We know that a cornerstone about the incident is “radar signature”, we think that is related to the motives behind the hijacking of flight 370. We know that 20 employees of Freescale Semiconductors were onboard the plane when it disappeared, having really deep insight into related stealth technologies. We now also know that there have been other radar related incidents, such as the one posted in this thread, where 13 planes in Europe vanish from radars. We know that the incident is of military nature and that there is some kind of radar signature testing involved related to this which we think has to do with some upcoming plans (keep reading). Because of the fact that the likely destination for flight 370 is Diego Garcia and because we know it was not due to Nato electronic warfare exercises in Hungary, we believe there is an international force behind this that currently controls Diego Garcia, with a strong US element involved. What has happened to the people on board we don’t know, but we theorize that they are held hostage at Diego Garcia. We have multiple theories we are working on as to what the motives are, the primary one being that it is a multi-intension cosmic international attack played out by:
– Block stealth awareness to China
– Test radar signature capabilities
– Test remote control capabilities
– Capture Edward Snowden
– Block other whistleblowers from taking a similar path
– Use flight 370 as a hidden attack weapon
– Force the reveiling of what exactly the Chinese experts know about stealth technology, using the investigation tactics implemented at Diego Garcia
– Test media and information distortion efficiency
This is the kind of cocktail we are likely witnessing right now, given the information that has been released about the incident and given how the investigation has proceeded.
Why the stealth fighters were used was likely also fulfilling multiple purposes. One was to assist in maintaining a silent radar signature either primarily or secondarily, it was also to provide additional guidance at critical points to the remote control center as well as to calm down the people inside the cockpit through clear but friendly hand gestures from the stealth crafts. It was also to provide protection at critical points, since should something go totally unplanned or unexpected external military forces would become involved there had to be an escape plan to shoot down the craft and then vanish. It’s really interesting to listen to the hints we have so far become aware of through the media and to get these glimpses into the black world. Let’s see how it all develops, as we get more information it will either strengthen or weaken this theory. It is truly a delicate situation for the investigators. Money is pouring in and sooner or later the investigation is going to start drifting in a westerly direction. Of course, the plane might not be found were it was suspected to have landed, but it still has the potential of opening things up in a major way.
I also find it is likely that radio communication was engaged between the stealth aircrafts and the cockpit as well as from the stealth aircraft to the remote control center. We also do not know exactly how much was stealth aircraft and how much was drone, probably both were engaged and it is not 100% certain that stealth aircraft was used, it could have been remote controlled drones the whole way, but due to the nature of taking down a civilian aircraft some human element might have had to be engaged, especially since had the events spread to e.g., the Chine experts or other “problem passangers” inside the aircraft, that could have put more risk to the operation. This is some high octane speculation, but a Boeing with highly intelligent stealth people on board is not the same as taking down a plane without those kinds of technical profiles onboard. Sadly I think it’s likely that the passangers must have got very confused and scared when finding that the entertainment system was not working as expected and when everything went so extremely strange and unexpected talk would be heard on radio as well as low altitude flight. The captain or someone else remotely probably informed the passangers that they had to take the plane to a low altitude due to issues with the air inside the plane or something to that nature. Who knows whether those in the cockpit was alive at that point, they could as well have been remotely killed without anyone outside the cockpit knowing what was really going on. At some point though, somebody on that plane must have realized the plane was being hijacked, without anyone really being able to do anything about it. I pray for all of those onboard. It is also interesting to think of what the actual flight duration really was. A modern Boeing might be able to produce surprisingly high speeds.
Why do I connect the dots like this? Well, one thing is this. Edward Snowden’s one year permit in Russia is expiring this July. There are forces out there working day and night to take him down in case he travels by airplane from Russia. Count on it. In that case the military force engaged has to be able to take down any civilian aircraft anywhere. That’s likely one of the aims here, although it’s likely not the only aim.
The moment when Edward Snowden has disappeared from the map or something worse has happened to him, that’s probably when we know that the flight 370 operation was successful. That has not yet happened. It’s not at all certain we will hear any more news about disrupted radars in Asia and Europe. This whole flight 370 operation might be a staging event before the real operation is carried out.
Hi Joseph!
This also sounds like a story a while ago were:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2621184/Keep-calm-carry-FAA-says-U-2-plane-shut-LAX-computers-thanks-complex-flight-plan-NOT-spy-signals.html
I personally think that the U2 mentioned is a “cover story” and that we are not being told what *really* caused the massive computer outage (if they really actually know) themselves…
It seems that some “third party” is giving the world oligarchies a couple “technological demonstrations” similar to what you have blogged about as an “op within an op within an op” concerning 9/11 (a bit of my own high octane speculation)..
Max
You could discuss this one on and on, but I do know that if an aircraft disappears off a radar screen, the air traffic controller would contact the plane by radio. I mean the pilot knows where he is, so if the plane disappears off the screen, then the ATC people would instantly test their radar equipment to check for any malfunction. The article is lacking some details (MH370) and there is a possibility that it could simply be an equipment fault, but the mere fact it happened begs more investigation, but will it happen?
This oddly-public plane vanishing demonstration could only be seen as a very bold, but also a very desperate, way to force Austria, Germany and the Czech Republic into a continued compliance with the American PsTB, and so prevent them from aligning with the BRICSA nations. The very fact that it came on the occasion of a NATO exercise, of all things, would then speak volumes.
But according to a Bloomberg article only two weeks after the radar incidents, Germany capitulated fully with maintaining their gold reserves with the Fed. So, perhaps in the end they were effectively prevailed upon, either by this demonstration alone, or by a whole series of public and private “remonstrances”.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-23/german-gold-stays-in-new-york-in-rebuff-to-euro-doubters.html
Is it really credible, though, that a joint operation of the West’s PsTB and NATO would be undertaken just to demonstrate a technology equivalent to Russia’s radar-neutralizing capability? And was this meant to INTIMIDATE the three aforementioned straying nations and thus bring them to heel?
Or would it have been intended to offer reassurance to those nervous countries that America and her PsTB still enjoy the sort of technological dominance that Dr. Farrell and Catherine Austin Fitts postulate would be required to ensure the continued use of the petrodollar?
In any case, the threat would have been an empty one. In other words, a growing predicament of German, Austrian or Czech airliners dropping off their own radar screens would no doubt present a “pesky” problem but not necessarily a lethal one.
Conversely, the utter vanishing of yet another airliner — let alone a great number of them — would surely seem to give away the whole covert-tech game. Surely then even the lamestream media couldn’t fail to connect those huge, adjacent dots. (And where would they store all these planes and passengers??? HOS: Mars.)
Finally, it would still seem so much more effective just to stage run-of-the-mill explosions aboard German, Austrian or Czech airliners and thus also frame a terrorist group du jour — or even a BRICSA nation if possible — thereby killing two blackbirds, so to speak, with one stone.
I posted a comment earlier, no. 44561, and though it contained no strong language, it has apparently vanished. Reviewing the text of the comment (I keep it), I see that it is sharp, in the way a revisor is sharp to a draft text.
It troubles me that this website censors a morally and intellectually valid commentary. The way I would have responded in the place of the moderator would have been to make explicit that ‘the atmosphere here is very important, and that such-and-such emotional impressions that a comment may leave should be avoided.’ In other words, even when one is a kind of ‘master’ i.e. a webmaster, he or she has to do a certain homework. With mere deletion of something dislikeable, you create an atmosphere of unspoken dread. We who gather here harbor the belief that oligarchies instill public fear; this censorship may present an interesting contrasting example. There can be a sense of dread that perpetuates itself without external reasons for it. Joseph Farrell is an authority because of his intellect and morals, and for that reason I think he should allow a free discussion, where problems are resolved ‘dialectically’/ socratically.
I read your comment 44561 and was relieved that it was removed as I wanted to comment on your snarky response. That is what it amounted to. Most who comment on this website have the foresight not to point out what seem like trite inconsistencies in Dr. Farrell’s posts but stick to arguments supporting or negating whole concepts or posits. The mere volume of information he both reads and presents on this website means we make allowances for spelling errors or what seem like inconsistent statements. The direction of the argument related to the inconsistency that you felt obliged to point out offered nothing to the overall context of the post. The fact that you would even object to it’s removal suggests your ego got in the way of your logic. More importantly, your comment was removed precisely to avoid the kind of response that I have made to your post and your objection of its removal. This whole bantering back and forth is not appropriate or condoned here, neither by the author nor his readers… so get over it.
Thank you for your response, justawhoaman. I had decided not to comment but since you have … I will add mine. I too read, and still have in my rss feed, the disputed comment 44561, which I found to be petty, insensitive, and highly discourteous to our host, as well as this complaint about its removal. Regular readers make allowances and remain respectful while having differing viewpoints. (And apologies if my comment here seems inappropriate or disrespectful …)
I don’t find it coincidental that most of these brief disappearances occurred in this area; let’s back up a bit and go back to a real plane crash in this area: am not sure if anyone remembers the incident (nor can I remember the exact yr.) but ca. 2001 a Russian plane carrying privileged school children underway to a vacation in Barcelona (“officious” story) collided in the night in an otherwise absolutely/completely EMPTY SKY!!! with a Lufthansa cargo plane (geez, I guess s**t happens); all perished and their remains were scattered over a certain part of the northern periphery of the Lake of Constance (Germany);
supposedly the Danish (“officious” story) air-traffic controller in charge at the time at the Zürich airport (gosh!- Switzerland again?) was visiting the loo at the time of the collision (was supposedly later murdered by the father of one of the children- “officious” story) and the emergency phone lines based in KARLSRUHE trying to warn Zürich of an imminent collision of two planes in an otherwise COMPLETELY EMPTY SKY were at the time (guess what?)…non-functional-
article: “An unknown source implied that the problem was due to interference between aircraft transponders and ground air traffic control”-
this seems to be nothing new in this area; according to my read sources the Russian plane’s computer told the pilot to pull up while the air trafficker’s computer system in Zürich told the Russian pilots to pull down; result: both planes crashed into each other in an otherwise completely empty sky; obviously a coincidence; I guess s**t happens…
so why is this all of this “stuff” occurring in this area?
Larry
Larry: ……the emergency phone lines based in KARLSRUHE trying to warn Zürich of an imminent collision of two planes in an otherwise COMPLETELY EMPTY SKY were at the time (guess what?)…non-functional- ……
It is rather fascinating that someone in Karlsruhe was aware of the danger of the supposedly accidental collision, even if it was mere seconds before it happened. For, it would mean he was monitoring very closely the movements in the sky 150 km south. That’s interesting to a layman like me.
I’m just as much a layman as you are; but I’ve always been an incredibly curious person (like I want the truth, if that’s not too much to ask from the universe) and just try to connect dots to form a complete picture;
it seems Karlsruhe seems to have the same catch-function as a facility near Oberlin, Ohio, if the grid goes down on the Cleveland (OH) Hopkins airport; next to Hopkins is, by the way, a mega, the most ‘overt’ NASA facility in the US beside its other official locations; just to complicate matters even worse it seems the ‘victims’ of both bogus flights 11/93 on 9/11 ended up in Cleveland being escorted into the NASA facility, never to be seen or heard from again-
if you or anyone else is interested I still have the link
What about that breakaway civilization, couldn’t they have something to do with these disappearing planes? After all, what do they have to lose in doing this sort of thing? They have something to gain, mainly causing discord and distrust among the differing factions and letting those ‘in the know’ (if there are any) that they can control the controls.
The empire junkies in London and Washington DC can’t come to terms the sun is setting on their imperium. So they playing chicken or trying to disrupt air traffic control when will these bratty kids finally grow up and stop hurting people.