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POPE FRANCIS I, ISIS, AND HIGH OCTANE SPECULATION

There's an intriguing article over at Zero Hedge concerning Pope Francis and the meltdown in the Middle East, and it's this:

Pope Francis Gets Involved In Geopolitics, "Endorses Use Of Force" Against ISIS Jihadists

This raises so many questions - more than there are answers - one wonders just what the geopolitical thinking in the Vatican really is. One cannot, of course, blame Francis for being concerned and even anxious over the plight of Christians at the hands of jihadists. Anyone with half a conscience would be concerned.

But all questions of morality and culture aside, the Realpolitik here is suggestive. Francis is clearly pointing the finger of accusation equally at America and its unipolarism, by calling for a more international solution to the situation. However, who would be involved in such a call? Papal involvement in geopolitiks is nothing new, and Francis's actions indicate that he, like his predecessor John-Paul II, means to be geopolitically involved, even to the point of putting himself in harm's way, as John-Paul II threatened to do against the government of General Jaruzelski as the Warsaw pact, and Communist Poland, disintegrated, threatening to return to Poland if Warsaw made any move to a military solution against Solidarity and Lec Walesa. But Europe has long since ceased being the Catholic heartland able to raise "crusading armies" that it once was. Indeed, getting any major world power - save Russia - to show anything like concern for persecutions of Christians in today's world seems to be next to impossible. And as far as Russia is concerned, it simply hasn't the military power on its own to contemplate such a venture.

So herewith my high octane speculation for the day. Assume, for a moment, just for fun and for the sake of argument, that there is a genuine "crusading party" within the Vatican curia, a party that wants to "do something" to stop what it perceives - however rightly or wrongly - as a "growing jihadist threat".It would, of course, be foolish to assume that there is nothing resembling such a party within the Curia. The question is, absent the papacy's medieval ability to raise such military force among the now-secularized great powers of the West, how might it go about doing so?

I suggest that the answer lies in its own history. The papacy has not abjured violence and the application of military force when it has perceived its interests or position are threatened, and hence, it sanctioned the creation of the military-crusading orders during the Middle Ages, chartering them and placing them directly under papal obedience. As I suggested in my most recent book, Thrice Great Hermetica and the Janus Age, if one wants to look at those orders with modern lenses, what the papacy did was to create international corporate mercenary-security-military-armaments cartels and conglomerates. In short, the papacy could "corporatize" or "privatize" such a venture, utilizing now, as it did then, its considerable financial strength to do so, and indeed, it already has quasi-paramilitary and deeply conservative and traditional religious organizations such as Opus Dei which could form the nucleus of such a venture.

Is it likely to do this? Of course not.... at least, not yet, for such a move would be counter-productive to say the least, and completely unrealistic, for it would only galvanize the Islamic world including those voices of moderation within it. But would it do so if, say, that world were galvanized internally, or began an even more drastic threat to the current bases of papal power in the Third World, or the radicalization of Muslim populations in Europe, in the Vatican's back yard, so to speak?

That, of course, is a different question, and hence, Zero Hedge's "wild" imagery of "crusaders" may not be as wild as one might initially think. Time, and circumstances, alone will tell.

12 thoughts on “POPE FRANCIS I, ISIS, AND HIGH OCTANE SPECULATION”

  1. This short ZeroHedge article is actually a very short syntheses of statements to jounalists on the pope’s return flight from Korea to Rome on Aug. 18th. According to what I read on the websites of the main Italian newspapers he did not actually cite “ISIS” by name, but said something to the effect that torture and violence in Iraq and Syria “are the fruits of war, here we are in war, it’s a Third World War but in pieces”. The talk goes on with a lot of diplomatic double talk with statements such as “only the UN can decide on how to stop an aggressor”, that terror should be countered but not by bombing etc. etc.
    Anyway, one could readily agree with the initial comments by here by Gail.

    1. PS I mean the first comment and not the article from the “journal-neo” website which I think should be taken with a considerable dose of salt…

  2. With regard to my comment above. I have just come across this article and here is a quote from it:

    http://journal-neo.org/2014/08/27/rogue-networks-behind-wars-usurped-sovereignty/

    “As international lawyer Christopher Black noted in our joint article, written by Black, Fetzer, Mezyaev and Lehmann, titled ”South East China Sea, A Perfect Crisis for the International Crisis Group”, these Slovenian and Croatian networks received covert support via the German intelligence service BND as well as via the Vatican. The fact was also noted by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky, in his article ”German Intelligence and CIA supported Al Qaeda sponsored Terrorists in Yugoslavia”.

    4th generation wars like those in Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Iraq and Ukraine are planned years, sometimes decades in advance. Alexander Mezyaev noted in our joint article that the retired French Brigadier General Pierre Marie Gallois made a stunning confession in that regard.

    In two video-recorded statements, Brig. Gen. Gallois admitted that European powers or rather networks within European powers, had held secret meetings on a farm in Germany to plan the war on Yugoslavia. These meetings were being held since 1976. Gallois stated that he was present at these meetings.

    The war in Ukraine has been planned by rogue networks for years. The war in Ukraine was modeled over the same blueprint as that against Yugoslavia. The ally of choice were Ukrainian ultra-nationalists with direct links to WWII Nazi organizations. The function is to sabotage the peaceful integration of the Russian and European market economies and to preserve the US/UK dominated hegemony in Europe. ”

    VATICAN. For over 1,000 years the Vatican has planned and is still planning total world control. The three Papal Bulls declare that the Vatican and the Pope in particular owns the planet, owns all bodies on this planet and owns all souls. They are not joking. And if you are not for them, you are against them and they have NO qualms whatsoever in genociding you, at the stake, using Nuclear bombs, starvation or whatever else it takes.

    In contrast consider the following: 1 Samuel 8. Note that when Joshua set up Israel, he set it up as a Republic of 12 tribes where the highest authority was the Judges. Not a High temple priest in the form of a Pope and not a monarchy.AND one of the first Judges of Israel was a woman, Deborah.

    7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

    8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.

    9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.

    10 And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king.

    11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.

    12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.

    13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.

    14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.

    15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.

    16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.

    17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.

    18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.

    19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;

    20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

    21 And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the LORD.

    22 And the LORD said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. And Samuel said unto the men of Israel, Go ye every man unto his city.

    In other words, a Monarchy is not a political system supported by Joshua.

    In the New Testament another Joshua, in the Greek Jesus, is tempted by the Devil. Matthew 4

    Again, the devil took him up into an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

    9And said unto him, All these things will I give you, if you will fall down and worship me.

    10Then said Jesus unto him, Begone, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.

    The Vatican’s Papal Bulls fly in the face of Christianity, on both scores. The corruption of the Vatican Bank, the sexual abuse and most important, their adherance to Trail By Ordeal as opposed to a just and fair trial with witnesses to speak on your behalf.They are the Sadduccess of the 21st Century.

    1. Hi Gail,

      I agree with most of your postings; and someone like Jordan Maxwell has been labeled as a “nut case” because he has for decades been trying to expose the financed-based shenanigans of the Vatican…

      please stay well-

      Larry

  3. There has been attempts to heal the riffs between the Western and Eastern Church’s going back to Paul VI and continuing through John-Paul II and Francis I. I think there are elements in the Roman Curia that just might pull off a further alliance to include the saner elements of the Judeo-Islam’s with the motto we all hang together or we hang separately.

    1. sorry, Marcos, but anyone still believing the Vatican is somehow a benevolent institution and is working for an ‘understanding’ between all northern-hemisphere based religious belief systems must finally realize they are believing in bovine excrement;

      chide me if you will (I can take it), but humanity must finally awaken and realize we are all living in a world of deception and the biggest part of this deception is organized religions;

      thinking the ‘pope’ or who/whatever religious figure will solve problems on this planet is believing in the existence of the tooth fairy-

      when will people finally wake up and realize the people offering the solutions to our problems are the ones who created the problems to begin with?- and their solutions benefit them, not us-

      Larry

  4. The Pope thinks he is God on earth, I mean he really believes it. The old boy snaps his fingers and 2 billion people say, eh, how high holy father. I gotta tell ya, Yahweh must be laughing his ass off, his plan is working like a charm and the 2 billion are none the wiser.
    It’s amazing how much real clout this fella has on this pile of rocks, and if you look at what’s going on in the mass slaughter category, the killing continues unabated. Well done your holiness, keep up the great work.

  5. The independent Polish trade union Solidarity had been severely weakened for nearly ten years, partly with the help of the Pope, by the time east European communist block fell apart in 1989.

    Right in 1989 the Pope may then have done some pushing, but it wasn’t exactly about Solidarity, which he’d already undercut in the early 1980s.

    1. read William Cooper’s “Behold a Pale Horse” about who Pope John-Paul II really was- if you have not yet done so I guarantee it will spoil your complexion…

      Larry

  6. I am of the opinion that the Pope’s statement was pure public relations. no more, no less.

    The glaring fact is that Christians, NOT of the Roman Catholic variety are being genocided in the middle east. And nobody has come to their defense most notably in the Western Media or by any Western politician or by the Vatican in particular. Now we get this sudden “blimp!” All smoke and mirrors.

    ISIS and the rest, are trained by the CIA. The CIA is a “Nazi” orgainization with major Bush Nazi involvement going back to , the Vatican who assisted the Nazis to escape to the USA.

    Blackwater is a Vatican army. If anything, behind the persecution of Christians NOT of the Roman Catholic order who do NOT believe that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ, lies the Vatican. And in Ukraine? Now we have some more Nazis bombing and destroying orthodox Christian Churches in the Donbass.

    Francis is a Jesuit. His “blimp”does not impress me one bit. It is public relations. No more and no less. The silence surrounding Christian (NOT Roman Catholics) genocide in the Middle East has been deafening!

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