Yesterday I blogged about the President of Argentina, Cristine Fernandez de Kirchner, or rather, I let her blog about herself. I posted a video of her speech to the UN General Assembly, in which she clearly points the finger to American corruption and run-amok hedge funds as being the source of much of her nation's current political and economic difficulty. There was little doubt about this, especially when she named the American judge by name - Judge Griesa - who has recently found Argentina in contempt of court. Nor was there any doubt about her intentions when she stated that Argentina, currently a temporary member of the UN Security council, intended to put some hard questions to those with the vast information and surveillance resources to know what's really going on, a thinly veiled reference to the USA and its NSA electronic espionage programs. In other words, President Fernandez was signalling the fact that Argentina has had enough with American unipolarism and the blatant corruption of its economic imperialism and corrupt courts.

During that speech, however, President Fernandez also alluded to the fact that Argentine intelligence had informed her of threats to her life and security emanating from - you guessed it - ISIS. This in and of itself was another bit of subtle finger-pointing on her part, in a speech that was nothing less than a passionate and argued exposure of what was breaking down relationships of international political and financial trust, for as most are aware, and doubtless President Fernandez is aware, there is a growing body of evidence and discourse on the internet tying ISIS once again to the intelligence communities of the very countries it claims to oppose. In other words, once again, President Fernandez was pointing a not-so-subtle finger at the USA.

But if there was ever any doubt about her interpretation of these threats and events, this has more recently been dispelled by a news story coming out of Argentina itself about these allegations:

The President Of Argentina Thinks The US Wants Her Dead

Note the key passages here:

"In a speech earlier this week the President of Argentina struck an ominous tone, telling her people that if anything happens to her they should "look to the north."

"Argentine newspaper Clarin reported that U.S. intelligence picked up ISIS threats against the President. She brushed those off in disbelief (she has been at odds with Clarin before).

"'Please, listen, if something happens to me, and I say this very seriously, if something happens to me do not look to the Middle East. Look to the North... because after seeing the things that they're(sic) diplomatic representatives are doing, after hearing these declarations that honestly seem like exercises in cyniscm, after seeing the things I've seen in the United Nations, it seems they'd want us to believe an entire story that ISIS is coming for me to kill me or to do something — oh please, do not create some novela.'

In recent days the United States Embassy in Argentina released a warning to U.S. citizens in the country. Based on threats to the Embassy itself, the report recommended that Americans “always be aware of their surroundings and maintain a high level of vigilance”.

President Fernandez called this report a "provocation."

President Fernandez's statements leave one with as many questions as answers, and the first is, what are the sources behind her statements  that if anything happens to her, "look to the North." Presumably she has learned something from the Secretaria de Intelligencia. But Argentina's intelligence services are, presumably, not the far-flung global agencies that say, a USA or UK command. At some point, in other words, Argentina's intelligence services may have been tipped off by someone within some other western intelligence service, or perhaps by the Russian or Chinese, or some other BRICSA bloc nation, and that raises the stakes considerably. The article makes it clear that the alleged ISIS threats against President Fernandez are coming from US intelligence. This, she has simply laughed off, and pointed the finger at the USA. So again, it would appear that she has intelligence from some other source.

The second problem implied by the article is the US embassy's warning to American citizens in Argentina, claiming there were threats - from ISIS?(ponder the implications of that one for a moment) - to the Embassy itself. In the context, President Fernandez clearly fingered the activity of US diplomats - pointedly those in the UN - but in the context of the Ukrainian fiasco (think only of "Lady" Victoria Nuland's "F*** the EU" comment), one wonders if President Fernandez is subtly trying to warn of the possibility of US "covert ops" against that country.

There is also, it seems to me, to be a third problem, and while I do not for one moment doubt that Ms. Fernandez's  fears are justified, nor blame her for entertaining them, I do question the utility of any threat against her. Removing her from office, by any means short of another Ukrainian style US-backed coup would only seem to fill the vacancy by another version of her. And there's the rub, for rumor has it, that there are a few left-over Fascists in that country as well, or their descendants. And after all, the connections between those Second World War Fascists and "radical Islam" ran very wide, and very deep. A coup, in other words, might not be entirely out of the picture for the insane plutocratic sociopaths running the USA.

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Rfriend on October 11, 2014 at 8:36 am

    First, let me say that reading blog ‘Comments’ always ends up testing my faith in humanity, so writing one is always a test of my own.

    Going back to the UN speech that addressed the General Assembly, the Argentine President was calling for reforms to solve three principal problems adversely affecting the welfare and security of the people of her nation and the world.
    Taking her nation as a “leading case” Fernandez de Kirchner outlined the debt problem first and used the term “vulture funds” which viewers need to flesh out in terms of human misery instead of mere political pejorative.
    By coincidence, yesterday I happened to view Greg Palast’s movie Vultures and Vote Rustlers which graphically explains the mechanism and machinations behind the term ‘Vulture’.
    As for the other two cases, that is, a more multilateral, ie, democratic UN and the amelioration of global terrorism, she suggests that the two are interrelated. Form your own opinion.

    As for the “look north’ remark, let’s just say that as Norte Americanos we should say “Look around.” For are not we, the 95%, not becoming the newest third-world country on the map? Alas, Fernandez de Kirchner’s speech may go into the archives along with the final policy expressions of JFK as mere dust in the wind, another test of our faith and will.


    See you on the flipped-out side.

  2. DownunderET on October 5, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    I’ll bet those people attending this UN speech didn’t need a dig in the ribs to see who she was talking about. But the UN is just one giant cocktail party, and soaking up a lot of money in the process. If they wack FDK, then the good ol’ system works, and Washington gets to put in another puppet government. The same old playbook over and over again, and it keeps working, just ask the crooks in the Ukraine.

    • jedi on October 7, 2014 at 5:43 am

      Reverse your analysis, how about fdk,s people control Washington.

      The look to the north, is a somewhat crptical vieled comment. What’s happening in the northern hemisphere…..that would have the elites worried?

  3. Robert Barricklow on October 5, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    Of course it is nothing short of war. When the U.S. killed Allende in the Chile coup d’état is was a war Chile lost. But more importantly, her people lost. Throughout Latin America the U.S. has declared war(private warfare) without most Americans aware of the warfare crimes being committed in their name under the humanitarian umbrellas. This alleged plot of murder, is actually planned warfare. She did not lose in economic warfare; so they are coming in on another warfare front. There is a thin and porous line between murder and war.

    Remove the dressing-up of diplomatic language, and she is saying
    ISIS are hired thugs of the yanqui sons of bitches.

  4. LSM on October 5, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    if anyone hasn’t yet noticed, Kirchner is a German name (not Latino)- so either she’s blowing hot steam verbally feigning something (otherwise known as a smoke screen) or if she really feels her life is in danger only time will tell if she’ll for whatever reason be liquidated; if/IF the latter happens (and let’s hope it doesn’t- I abhor violence) we can be sure she is a whistleblower; but even if her worst fears come true there will be no evidence left (unless planted) and (take a deep breath) many important people have faked their own deaths-


    • Gaia Mars-hall on October 5, 2014 at 5:16 pm

      Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about here. The world historical stand made by the Kirchner’s, now as a tradition of true national leadership for the welfare of the people of the nation of Argentina, from husband and now wife, as an example for the rest of the world is the very testament against silly comments based upon your ethnic/nationalistic prejudices.

      • LSM on October 6, 2014 at 2:25 pm

        “silly comments based upon your ethnic/nationalistic prejudices”- I have no ethnic/nationalistic predudices whatsoever- read my comments track-record on this website-

        “Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about here”- either that or you don’t- when will people finally wake up and realize that most (if not all) politicians’ public images are an MSM illusion?- if you have not yet considered that possibility please deal with that concept, even for just one second, please, for your own sake (not mine)-

        I wish you peace and prosperity

    • Luso on October 6, 2014 at 6:22 am

      “Kirchner is a German name” – hey, that could also lead to another “high octane speculation”! With that name she well might be connected to “an old Nazi network”!
      Can´t wait to read more about it!

  5. marcos toledo on October 5, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    Who ever told the USA is a sovereign state when it entered the Great War who’s centennial we are celebrating beginning this year. It surrendered it’s sovereignty and became a vassal of the British Empire only becoming the major partner after Great War part 2. As Fernandez De Kirchner’s fears all she has to look back to the two Perons Juan and Isabelita who ousted from office in Argentina lucky to be left alive after coups. As for fatal coup ousters Chile president in comes to mind so her fears are well founded.

    • marcos toledo on October 6, 2014 at 2:32 pm

      Salvador Allende.

  6. jedi on October 5, 2014 at 10:47 am

    I got a bad feeling about this,

  7. Gaia Mars-hall on October 5, 2014 at 9:02 am

    Again a response by Argentina

    Argentina Tells U.S.: We’re Based on the U.S. Presidential and Constitutional System—You Can’t Legally Interfere in Our Affairs

    Argentine President Cristina Fernandez is rubbing in the Obama administration’s face the fact that her nation’s system of government and Constitution are “practically a copy of the U.S. Constitution…. We have copied the United States’ Presidential system, with the separation of the three branches,” whose duties and responsibilities are defined by the Constitution, she said in her Sept. 30 speech.

    In establishing a mechanism for paying the debt to bondholders through a new debt swap, she emphasized, the Argentine Congress has acted according to the responsibilities defined by the Constitution. The United States would never tolerate a foreign power dictating to it, telling it what its Congress can or cannot do. Why does the U.S. think it’s acceptable for a U.S. court to dictate to a sovereign Argentina?

    In a strongly-worded letter to Secretary of State John Kerry on Sept. 29, Argentine Ambassador to the U.S. Cecilia Nahon made the same point. Referencing the principle of the sovereign equality of states enshrined in the UN Charter, she asserted that “based on these principles, the Argentine Republic has adopted a system of government which is substantially similar to that of the United States of America, establishing a representative, republican and federal democracy. Its organs of political representation enjoy democratic legitimacy, grounded in the principle of the sovereignty of the people of the Argentine Republic.” The Constitution also affirms, she said, that the Congress is empowered “to settle payment of the domestic and foreign debt of the nation.”

    Thus, she concluded, “the acts of these political organs are subject only to the sovereignty of the people and the rest of the principles set forth in the Argentine Constitution. In no case can they be questioned by the organs of any foreign State.” Nahon warned that any attempt by U.S. courts to overturn Argentina’s sovereign debt restructuring, or challenge actions of Argentine political organs, “would not only fall outside of the jurisdiction of said courts, but also be an unlawful interference in the domestic affairs of the Argentine Republic, triggering the international liability of the United States of America.”

  8. loisg on October 5, 2014 at 8:42 am

    ” the connections between those Second World War Fascists and “radical Islam” ran very wide, and very deep. ” as ISIS is a radical group then we should also assume that the Fascists are involved, but that doesn’t mean it’s an American version of it that is in control of their activities. These people are not really associated with any country, they work independently, so I think it’s incorrect to assign American responsibility for their actions, even when they are operating behind American institutions.

    Considering the ties after WWII between the nazi fascists and Argentina I have to wonder what has happened to that tie if she thinks that those fascists are after her life now, and I have to wonder why the US warning to its citizens there…sounds like something is going on behind the scenes and I don’t think the US is as involved as she is trying to suggest.

  9. Aridzonan_13 on October 5, 2014 at 8:22 am

    The President of Argentina appears to be angering all the “Usual Suspects”. `Tis amazing how people that are for peace, prosperity and justice, die sudden violent deaths. From JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X. Let’s not forget Paul Wellstone to name a few.. However, their counterparts live long and prosperous lives and get to see their son(s) become president. Reagan/Bush, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama/Clinton and next in line for the throne of Imperial Amerika is Bush III. Read it and weep. The US has had a Stealth Dictator since the 80’s.

  10. Lost on October 5, 2014 at 7:42 am

    “ISIS” threats in Argentina are a way of trying to bring up the not incredibly strong case that Iran bombed a Jewish center in Argentina and the Israeli embassy or consulate. The case for Iran being the being the bad actor is less than well proven in both cases. In the case of the embassy/consulate bomb, it exploded deep inside the complex.

    A US war against Syria is always about Iran, even if “ISIS” is nominally Sunni.

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