If you thought that the babblers in Brussels and their puppet masters in London, Washington and Berlin couldn't possibly manage to piss off another European power, you'd be wrong, but this time it's not Greece or Portugal or Spain that's upset. This time" it's one of "The Biggies":

It's quite important to understand that Signor Grillo is not merely some reactionary hothead; he speaks for vast numbers of Italians who have just about "had it" with Brussels, Berlin, and the European Central Bank (in Frankfurt... what does that tell you?), for as his own comments suggest, he now commands a huge bloc in the Italian Parliament:

"With two-thirds of Parliament apparently behind the plan, Grillo exclaims "we are dying, we need a Plan B to this Europe that has become a nightmare -  and we are implementing it," raging that "we are not at war with ISIS or Russia! We are at war with the European Central Bank," that has stripped us of our sovereignty."

And that's not all: he puts the matter "country simple" so that its easy enough for a Brussels bureaucrat to understand:

 "The Euro is destroying the Italian economy. Since 1997, when Italy adjusted the value of the lira to connect it to the ECU (a condition imposed on us so that we could come into the euro), Italian industrial production has gone down by 25%. Hundreds of Italian companies have been sold abroad. These are the companies that have made our history and the image of 'Made in Italy'.
Unlike Greece or Portugal, however, the Italian economy is big enough to give such pleas weight, as is Italy's military contribution within the NATO alliance. Thus, as the Zero Hedge article makes it clear, there is a real danger that the psychopaths in Brussels, and their bosses in Frankfurt, Berlin, London, and Washington might resort to the time honored bankster playbook of the convenient suicide and assassination. But that won't solve the problem: Grillo is not alone, and someone else will rise to take his place, and eventually, Italy will leave... but this won't be possible without some powerful backing.
So what's really going on here?
Here comes the high octane speculation: I suspect Signor Grillo knows full well that Italy, for its survival, must leave the EU, and that every step will be taken to prevent that. He therefore needs strong allies, and hence, his statements about not being at war with Russia or ISIS could be taken as not merely a bit of impassioned political rhetoric, but rather, as a diplomatic message to Mr. Putin, and possibly through him, to the wider BRICSA bloc. Direct entanglements or diplomatic arrangements are not, of course, geopolitically feasible for the BRICSA bloc... but there is always another alternative: bi-lateral currency trade deals with - you guessed it - China. And all of that may just be tempting enough for the BRICSA bloc to entertain Signor Grillo's subtle diplomatic message.
Bottom line: as I predicted some months back, Italy would eventually emerge as the country to watch in Europe, and it now has definitely done so. The "Grillo problem" will not be solved with an assassination. If anything, that will only galvanize growing Italian opposition to the whole miserable Brussels-London-Berlin scheme. This is one to watch closely.
See you on the flip side...
(My thanks to Mr. K.L. for bringing this to my attention.)
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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. kevinxs56 on November 21, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    So what might this mean for Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, and other Balkan States? I mean it seems to me that the EU has already succeeded in getting it’s tentacles into Croatia (and the problems are starting to emerge), and have been trying to expedite status with Serbia as a way to create a buffer between the EU and Russia. I know that subject came up during the Serbian/Bosnian floods when most of the EU was silent and Russia was visibly sending in aid almost immediately… showing the Serbians that they would be better off aligning with Russia. So, if eventually Italy backs out of the EU or aligns with Russia somehow through trade deals, wouldn’t that create more stress and instability in the Balkans? thoughts anyone?

  2. Frankie Calcutta on November 20, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Somewhere in DC a gaggle of neo-cons checker players are plotting how to trigger a war between Germany and Russia. Meanwhile, somewhere in Europe, German, Russian, Italian and American chess players are calculating how they will thwart the neo-cons from delivering a samson option once the blame for 9/11 has been publicly pinned on them and a global dragnet instituted to apprehend them.

    One nifty idea I would suggest to the Germans– why not contract to train ISIS soldiers and in the process wrest control of them from American and Israeli intelligence when the time is right. What a guilty pleasure it would be to see ISIS unexpectedly swerve and head towards Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Imagine a bunch of guys named Wolfgang and Heinrich suddenly commanding the ISIS tank force, an “accidental” present from the US, and charging southward across the desert? Once they get control of the Saudi panzer fleet, more Teutonic jihadists will appear to drive these tanks and then it is on to Tel Aviv to capture the rest of the 9/11 conspirators.

    Of course, we could spare all the innocent bloodshed if the Germans would just roll out their war decisive amber weapon and be done with it. Imagine all the anglosphere headquarters suddenly imprisoned in a gelatinous goo which they can’t escape from.

  3. chris on November 20, 2014 at 10:33 am

    How about the “Putin / Grillo” ticket in 2016 ?
    Well… at least the sticker would be good and a bunch of those tacky lawn signs !!

  4. DanaThomas on November 20, 2014 at 10:25 am

    Here are some pros and cons about Beppe Grillo and his 5-Star Movement that readers might find useful. Since his movement is (or at least seems to be) “anti-system”, the MSM usually present a highly negative or at least very mixed view, stressing the more “picturesque” aspects.
    – The movement has grassroots organization based on local clubs with a considerable amount of autonomy;
    – Severe criticism of Euro and the technocratic, undemocratic policies of the European Commission
    – Criticism of the banking and monetary system and its dire economic effect;
    – Opposition to NATO military expenditure and its policy towards Russia;
    – Criticism of corporate abuse of position with respect to the public and to small shareholders;
    – Opposition to the excessive costs and rampant corruption in the Italian bureaucratic and political party apparatus.
    This list could go on extensively. But here are some of the Cons:
    – Despite local autonomy, the movement has a pyramid structure run at the apex in what is basically a business partnership between Mr Grillo and Mr Gianroberto Casaleggio, long-time communications expert and internet consultant;
    – Instead of organs elected in the traditional way with a party conference etc., debate takes place through the blog. There so many messages that reading it is a full-time job (this is in fact taken care of by Mr Casaleggio’s paid employees);
    – Sometimes, controversial issues are settled by a “blog vote” by registered members, with results processed and announced by Mr Casaleggio’s organization;
    – Mr Grillo seems to have the last say on any issues, whether on policies or reprimanding “rebels”, as published on the web blog. These blog messages have the force of a tsarist “ukase” but Mr Grillo, like any good actor, reserves the right to change his mind at any time;
    – One of the official proposals of the 5-Star Movement is to replace elections using ballot papers with voting from home via the internet, with all the risks of manipulation this involves.
    In any case, as the Movement continues to gain members of Parliament (Italian and European), as well as local elected representatives, there may be some chance of moving away from this autocratic and blog-oriented model. Many people who voted for the Grillo movement are hoping to see not just perpetual criticism of the financial and other oligarchies, but proposals for building a new system.

    • Guygrr on November 20, 2014 at 10:57 am

      I don’t know much at all about the movement, honestly only what i’ve read on this page, but I think they are leveraging the Internet and technology to its fullest potentential. Or at least they are attempting to. I think we need to use these type of tools to formulate and follow a widespread plan, however one without the potential for abusing this new system. I think it’s time to really start having that discussion that Dr, Farrell has advocated. This M5 or whatever seems like a move in the right general direction.

  5. chris on November 20, 2014 at 10:02 am

    I grew up in and spent most of my life in Europe, and I yearn for the Europe i knew in the 80s and 90s. One day overnight, they swapped the guildersigns for euro ones and kept amountsthe same, so everything doubled in price..

    • jedi on November 20, 2014 at 10:42 am

      over ridden with a welfare state….if you thought they were the good days you should of been around for the 60s and 70s…

      the beautiful people days…everywhere.

      and then jaws showed up

      • chris on November 20, 2014 at 12:16 pm

        I can see that; I was just comparing it to now.
        But generally speaking of course its going to gradually get worse each decade. Isn’t that human nature, until the big cleanse, and then the cycle repeats?

  6. DownunderET on November 19, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    Well, well, well, who would have believed a comedian could launch an opposition to the EU, but he has, and he isn’t going away. Mr. Grillo sees it like it is and says it like it is, so the Brussels buffoons are now staring down the barrel of a true revolt, and with all the Italian people are behind him. BRING IT ON!!!

  7. Guygrr on November 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    I wouldn’t underestimate the power of assassinations, threats, and fear. Of course the same can be said of righteous men’s patriotism and desire for freedom. If I was in Grillo’s or someone similars position I would be more afraid for my family’s well being rather than my own. Even if one doesn’t have a family the PTB could demand their desires be met or one’s fellow countrymen will die. Something like an earthquake over here or maybe a tsunami over there is fitting with their character and as we know most likely technologically feasible. I’m not sure if I’d be able to do the “right” thing in that type of situation. There a war waging inside of me over this very issue. How do we combat the mess we are in? I absolutely don’t want to stoop to their level, but can we realistically win any other way? The bully clearly needs to be stood up to, but in the process how do we not lose our humanity or sacrifice our souls? Dr. Farrell frequently says this entire mess is primarily a spiritual problem, I think these questions are at the heart of it.

    • TRM on November 19, 2014 at 5:39 pm

      They would probably make it look like a “natural” cancer or heart attack type thing.

      The only way is to tell them ahead of time “if so and so dies for any reason 2 of you will die” and then randomly kill 2 of the elites. This is a mob we are dealing with and the only thing they understand is violence and revenge. That they get.

  8. marcos toledo on November 19, 2014 at 9:46 am

    The problem is the European Union put the cart before the horse. Instead of putting together a functioning European Political Federation a la the United States. They decided on a monetary union instead selling Europe into the hands of the thieving banksters legit gangsters Killer Kane in the European equivalent of Brooks Brothers suits.

  9. Lost on November 19, 2014 at 8:13 am

    It’s not so much that Italy’s economy is bigger than Greece: It’s that Italy, unlike Greece, Ireland, Iceland, and Spain, Italy never let various ibankers from the US, UK and Germany go crazy speculating on land and buildings. In other words, Italy didn’t blindly worship the “free” market, something Zero Hedge sure seems to do.

    Right, all the cheap espresso makers with Italian names are made in China now, and that wasn’t true 15 years ago, when if Italy wanted to increase exports Italy could reduce the value of the lira in relation to other currencies, but now of course Germany won’t allow that to happen to the euro.

  10. kitona on November 19, 2014 at 5:08 am

    Any “Grillo 2016” bumper stickers spotted in the USA yet?

    • Cate on November 19, 2014 at 7:34 pm

      *like* ^

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