Joseph comments on some important developments between China and Japan, and what they might portend for the long term...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. henry on November 23, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    @”I would not be surprised if Japan was not already a secret full fledged Chinese ally, thanks to constant US abuse.”

    Allegedly, the Chinese had offered an alliance with the Japanese back in 2010 on the background that they share a “common ancient high civilization/ET heritage” but was rejected by Japan, according to Nexus editor, Veteran’s Today and Kerry Cassidy. If that was true, then the “constant US abuse” is actually keeping Japan in line with America instead of pushing it to its mainland neighbour.

    But my personal take would be its Japan’s “destiny” to be an “ally” of China, not because of some allegations of “ET connection” from the “alternative field”, but because of some of the basic facts that people seem to neglect when discussing current Japan-China relation.

    For instance, when speculating whether Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe would be able to meet with his Chinese counterpart in Beijing during the APEC, due to their differences particularly with regard to Senkaku/Diaoyu island dispute, people seem to forget that after Shinzo Abe just became Prime Minister of Japan back in 2006 for the first time, he paid a “lightning visit” to China. Instead of issues like “territorial dispute”, “Historical revisionism” and “remilitarization”, then PM Shinzo Abe was keen on establishing a “mutually beneficial strategic relationship” with China, in the area of “efficient energy use, environment protection, energy, communications and finance”. On top of that, Abe told the visiting Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao in 2007, that he “wanted to visit China again this year”, Abe even made suggestion to him “the two countries should not be viewing each other as a threat”, the two should cooperate on security, establishing a communicate mechanism between thheir defense departments, and he welcomed the visit by Chinese defense minister and naval ships to Japan.

    Why is there this “discrepancy” between “first term Abe” and the “second term Abe”?
    On the one hand, what the current Abe government has done no doubt have contributed to the deterioration of bilateral relation between China and Japan, but on the other hand i’m not so sure about all the rhetorics about Abe. No doubt, Abe’s speech in Australian parliament could be interpreted as aimed at “Chinese expansionism”, but he also technically admitted on such occasion that what the Japanese military did during WW2 was wrong, although not directly involving Japanese criminal actions in China or Korea, and contrary to Japan’s attitude towards history with its Asian neighbours, but still, Abe did technically lay a foundation for a possible future “reconciliation” with that history.
    Its worth to mention that Shinzo Abe’s father, Shintaro Abe who was the foreign minister for LDP favored continued Japanese ODA(official development assistance) to China, to use his own words “Japan should continue its ODA to China as a goodwill for China not asking Japan for war reparation”.

    I remember many years ago i was scratching my head after reading Lee Kuan Yew’s Memoirs, in which the former Singaporean leader expressed a “moderate” even “positive” view towards the idea of “The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere” which was used by imperialist Japan during WW2. I’ve been to Singapore and learned from local tourist guide that the Japanese slaughtered tens of thousands of Chinese in Singapore during their occupation of city-state, so whether its from China’s perspective or Singapore’s perspective its hard to see how that notorious Japanese propaganda can be considered anything by denouncement.
    Years later, Deborah Brautigam, an American scholar, and author of “The Dragon’s Gift: The Real Story of China in Africa” provided a clue to the bafflement.
    When talking about China’s investment in Africa Ms Brautigam made an interesting analogy, i.e.”what the Chinese are doing in Africa today is like what the Japanese used to do in China and in other South-East Asian countries in the 80s”, what she’s talking about is ofcourse the Japanese ODA to China, in terms of amounts that are comparable to the economic damage imperial Japan caused to China the post-war ODA is but a fraction of what a “war reparation” would be asking Japan for.
    That being said, it is also true that China is the main recipient of Japanese ODA which accounts for 62%. Some of China’s well-known landmark buildings were constructed by partially utilizing Japanese loans, such as Beijing International Airport, the city’s first subway line, the Qinhuangdao city port, also “China-Japan Friendship Hospital” etc
    Not only these Japanese loans played a part in building infrastructures in China, but as the communist country has just opened its door to the outside world which it had little foreign reserves whereas the Japanese Yen is internationally exchangable basket of currencies, the ODA is also helpful when it comes to buying necessary equipments, particularly Japanese ones. In turn, the Japanese helped to develope a huge market for Japanese products which proved to be crucial for its economy.
    Now that you mentioned Yukio Hatoyama’s DPJ party defeated the long ruling LDP under who we witnessed signs of drastic change in foreign policy, with regard to Japan’s relation to its Asian neighbours and the issue of relocation of American military base, and then possibly a drastic “response” as we all suspect what Fukushima disaster might have been.
    It’s worth to mention, that when DPJ was in office, Japan appointed a bussinessman turned diplomat who “had no experience in foreign policy”, Uichiro Niwa as the Japanese ambassador to China. And Mr.Uichiro Niwa’s view on Senkaku island dispute and Japan-China relation in general were quite clear when he said “the territorial dispute has him deeply worried, that decades of effort are wasted”; responding to the suggestion that in face of increasing “Chinese threat” to Japan, the country should recosider its economic choice of “Japan+1(China)” and substitute China with South-East Asia, the bussinessman turned diplomat’s response was “there is no substitute, its either “Japan+1” or “Japan+0”.

    Which makes sense if one look back at the history of economic relation between Japan and China which really started with Japanese ODA that subsequently laid the foundation for today’s bilateral economic and trade relationship between these two countries, in other words, the Japanese were really “architect” of this economic relation.And if i combine Dr.Farrell’s observation that “what the Chinese are doing in Africa is really helping these people” and Ms Brautigam’s observation that “what China is doing in Africa today is like what Japan used to do in China in the 80s”, what do i get as a result?
    “Japan was really the one that helped China to develop”, this conclusion is contrary to mainstream presentation and contrary to stereotypical perception, but might it explain why Mr.Lee Kuan Yew held a “moderate” view to otherwise “unspeakable” idea?

    • Joseph P. Farrell on November 24, 2014 at 7:20 am

      Thanks for sharing the thoughts Henry. I was not aware of Japan’s role in Chinese economic resurgence.

  2. yankee phil on November 16, 2014 at 11:27 am

    Maybe I’m a dreamer or just nieve but I don’t understand why there isn’t a world wide understanding being formed after Richard Hoaglands discovery of the photograph sent by the mars rover from the curiosity mission to the Sharps mountain region in 2012 of a childs size “SHOE” and a toy glider, something that can’t be explained by sun shadow angle or photographic anomoly or nazi leftovers from a failed flight,etc,etc . My God this is the most astounding news from our space missions ever, was this a joke and I’m the only one who doesn’t get it? We lost an entire advanced civilization and perhaps we are doing the exact same thing wrong. Should this not be something the entire planet must contemplate and rethink our human goals as a species.

    • jedi on November 16, 2014 at 12:29 pm

      The first rover on mars took a pic of kermit the frog, or was that voyager.

      • yankee phil on November 17, 2014 at 7:05 am

        Look up Richard Hoagland,enterprise website, Curiosity mission to mars 2012. Watch the last 5 min of a 2 hour seminar on the sharps mountain area, then run your mouth.

  3. observerone on November 14, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    Reading a military book entitled Nebraskans Remember which has a noted about the Japan earthquakes of March 11 2011 which seems to fit here. The interviewed military man talked about the Russians trying to occupy Hokkaido and divide the country after WWII. MacArthur said no. The Fukushima plants were just south of where the Russians wanted to be. According to a March 11, 2011 7:59est article on out of Boston “Russian Flexes Military Muscle Over Japan”. Since the Soviet Union didn’t sign the Peace Treaty with Japan they are technically still at war. According to the globalpost in another article Japan scrambled F-15 fighters to intercept Chinese surveillance and anti-submarine aircraft 30 miles from Senkakus a week before the quake supposedly over disputes between the two in the China Sea energy resources. Interesting with what this news and views has now.

  4. jedi on November 14, 2014 at 11:48 am

    the elites of the world, look at one single death as a tragedy that pulls everyone’s string, however when dealing in millions of strings pulled, it becomes a mathematical statistic.

  5. Frankie Calcutta on November 14, 2014 at 10:44 am

    If I were China and Russia, I would concentrate all energies on bringing Japan secretly into the BRICSA fellowship. Keep reminding them they were deliberately attacked and are still being poisoned by the Fukishima fallout. Like a schoolyard rumble, just work the Japanese up into a lather until they feel they are dishonoring themselves by not sneak attacking the US. Inform them how hopeless their future is with the toxic radiation cloud enveloping their island. Convince them there is no recourse but to attack the US. And we all know the Japs are crazing enough to do it. Remember Pearl Harbor? Maybe the Japanese will not just commit financial hari kari but target a west coast fault line as well with a yakuza energy weapon and send California into the sea and possibly even taking out the underground bunkers of the Breakaway Civilization. As an American I naturally would be opposed to having my country cataclysmically split in two by an enemy earthquake machine, no matter how much I despise the Victoria Nulands of this (dual) nation that made such foreign enmity possible. For the record.

    • loisg on November 14, 2014 at 4:08 pm

      The Japanese are not crazy

      • HAL838 on November 18, 2014 at 1:54 pm

        No, but they ARE dying of radiation poisoning.

  6. Frankie Calcutta on November 14, 2014 at 10:36 am

    In light of Dr. Farrell’s recent comments on tobacco and mind control technology, does anyone else suspect there is more to President Obamma recent nicorrette gum chewing faux pas in China? Could the US be demonstrating a mind control interference technology in the form of chewing gum? I would have to imagine any trip into a foreign military power’s home turf would expose the visiting dignitary to all forms of electronic mind control subterfuge. Perhaps the west has circumvented this with a special gum rich in nicotine. Maybe the mind control shielding properties of tobacco are the reason Obamma smokes in the first place. Possibly this is part of his CIA training. And his cocksure gum chewing in front of the decorous Chinese (who only like to spit, burp and fart in public) was a boastful advertisement of a breakthrough technology which allows US Presidents to remain mind controlled solely by their western handlers via brain implants and hypnotic teleprompters.

    Perhaps even Obamma’s disrespectful gum chewing was just some American product placement for the cure to cigarette smoking– a problem that plagues all China. This in response to the recent rehabilitation of the US tobacco as a defense against Ebola. Maybe we are even witnessing a war on Madison Avenue and DC between the fascistic left wing who want to restrict the average American in any way possible, versus the political right wing in the US who are beholden to corporate interests first and have absolutely no concern for the public’s health, especially if it gets in the way of profits. Will we soon see the mercenary Obamma chain smoking American cigarettes for African audiences? (You can’t give a nation lots of international aid money, without giving them an important, life saving US product to spend it on like cigarettes, pharmaceutical drugs, or defensive weapons). To be sure there was more to this gum chewing fiasco then just a cunning State Department setting up the President to make him look contemptuous and disrespectful to his foreign hosts whose ire the US government relies on to validate massive Pentagon spending and NSA spying.

    • DanaThomas on November 14, 2014 at 1:08 pm

      Who can tell what was REALLY in that gum…

    • loisg on November 14, 2014 at 4:07 pm

      Lol, at least he can walk and chew gum at the same time…remember Bush in China when he walked into a door?

  7. marcos toledo on November 14, 2014 at 12:26 am

    You left out the Korea question out Joseph. That the loaded gun in the drawer that could blast this China-Japan rapprochement of friendship to pieces. A weapon the Anglosphere can use to cause it’s usual chaos in that region of the World.

  8. Aridzonan_13 on November 13, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Japan burying the hatchet with China and Germany backing out on NATO commitments was due to the AngloSphere’s “Does not play nice with others.” foreign policy. I would not be surprised if Japan was not already a secret full fledged Chinese ally, thanks to constant US abuse. The US/UK hubris, our way or the highway attitude has alienated nations around the world. I’m sure the global NSA surveillance effort is focused on tracking these expected defections. The AngloSphere is a Roller Ball Society. Where .Incs rule.. Getting the rest of the world to accept Mr.Global.Inc as their lord and master might prove a bit tricky. The 105 member BRIIICSSA alliance might decide that it’s better to die on your feet than live on your knees. Remember, the War w/o End Amen is the US/UK solution to everything.

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