This JUST brought to my attention by Mr. V.T.: another airliner in the South Pacific goes missing:

Singapore-bound AirAsia plane with 162 on board missing


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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Button on December 29, 2014 at 8:52 am

    Well this explains everything. Nothing here, move along, watch some football. Chalk it up to those incompetent, third world, meth-popping pilots, lack of the democratic processes, and just plain old “bad luck”. Yeah.


    • DanaThomas on December 29, 2014 at 9:47 am

      It can be useful to read these oligarch mouthpiece editorials just to see the incongruous association made between air safety and “authoritarianism” (in Malaysia’s case). But unfortunately, the article points out, a “real democracy” like Indonesia has an even worse accident rate. Apparently due to all that nasty corruption.
      On the other hand, readers of this blog know that Indonesia has cropped up with reference to the bearer bonds affair and some unusual securities dealings before that country was hit by the Indian Ocean tsunami.

      • sjy1969 on December 29, 2014 at 5:36 pm

        Not saying there’s anything untoward here but if you can’t appreciate that there’s a correlation between “democracy”, corruption, accountability and safety then you’re hopelessly naive.

  2. unclejed on December 29, 2014 at 5:04 am

    I See RT Are Reporting “Australian Air Force Orion Located Objects In The Water”, Trouble Is These Objects Are 700 Miles From The Location The Missing Aircraft Last Made Contact …. ????

  3. henry on December 29, 2014 at 4:44 am

    Incredible, just a day before this latest incident with yet another Malaysian airliner, i was just telling my mother that i think president Obama playing golf with Malaysian PM in Hawaii is something worth to ponder, like what if Obama knew something about MH370 and hes trying share it with PM Najib?
    Afterall, He did (right after the visible deterioration of relationship between the U.S. and Israel, which in turn was right after the disappearance of flight MH370) come out and say this “finding out what happened to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane is a top priority for the US.”

    And now, right after president Obama just had an “intimate meeting” with the Malaysian leader in Hawaii, another Malaysian airliner went “missing” again. I can’t help but to suspect this is more than a coincidence.

    • henry on December 29, 2014 at 5:05 am

      Argubly, one of Obama’s “legacy” will be his effort in the normalization of US-Cuba Relations, in other words, hes breaking something that’s been around for decades, but how far is this president willing to go?

      and it seems, he’s at odds with Israel again, at least with regard to the dealing with Cuba.

      And it seems in 2014, whenever Obama makes the Israelis feel ‘Offended’, a Malaysian airliner goes missing.

      • sjy1969 on December 29, 2014 at 6:18 am

        Now that he doesn’t have to stand for reelection, perhaps Obama will become the president that many of us overseas hoped he would be. The Cuba initiative, IMO, has done more for the reputation of the Usa than anything I can think of in a long while.

  4. Button on December 28, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    If you subscribe to the official theater that MH17 was not MH370, and that these were in fact two different airplanes, we now have 3 ‘sacrificial’ airliners. All ‘belonging’ more or less to Malaysian airlines. All in the space of a year. Truly high strangeness to all but the most obtuse.

    Remember what Schoolhouse Rock teaches us: three is a magic number…note the imagery too…


  5. emlong on December 28, 2014 at 10:45 am


    “In November 2011 the tribunal purportedly exercised universal jurisdiction to try in absentia former US President George W. Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, convicting both for crimes against peace because of what the tribunal concluded was the unlawful invasion of Iraq.[7][8][9]

    In May 2012 after hearing testimony for a week from victims of torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, the tribunal unanimously convicted in absentia former President Bush, former Vice President Dick Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, former Deputy Assistant Attorneys General John Yoo and Jay Bybee, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, and former counselors David Addington and William Haynes II of conspiracy to commit war crimes, specifically torture.[10] The tribunal referred their findings to the chief prosecutor at the International Court of Justice in the Hague.[11]

    In November 2013, the tribunal convicted State of Israel guilty of genocide of the Palestinian people and convicted former Israeli general Amos Yaron for crimes against humanity and genocide for his involvement in the Sabra and Shatila massacre.[12]”

    • marcos toledo on December 28, 2014 at 11:26 am

      Thanks for answering my question emlong.

      • henry on December 29, 2014 at 6:32 am

        It should be reminded that the Germans (right after the Kuala Lumpur tribunal) offered consulate assistance to Israeli citizens in Muslim countries which have no diplomatic ties with Israel, and the two Muslim countries specifically mentioned in that German announcement happens to be Malaysia and Indonesia,

        in other words, these two countries are not behaving in Israel’s interests, and may become “hostile” towards “Israeli citizens”(including dual citizens in the U.S.), and that’s where “Kuala Lumpur tribunal verdict” becomes relevant,
        possible “hostile action” by Malaysia and Indonesia could include “arrest of Israeli citizens”, that’s where “German consulate assistance” becomes relevant.

        and now, a Malaysian airliner which happens to from Indonesia goes missing.. My intuition says its not a coincidence at all.

  6. marcos toledo on December 28, 2014 at 10:33 am

    I wonder who Malaysia piss off that some ones are targeting passenger airliners that fly from it’s main airport and are owned by Malaysian companies in Kuala Lumpur. Has this one been Twilight Zoned like MH370 or a simple accident do to weather or has the weather been used as a cover dastardly deed.

  7. kitona on December 28, 2014 at 9:59 am

    If I’m not mistaken, this is one an Airbus so maybe it’s a legit accidental crash. If it was another Boeing that would be more suspicious.

  8. SoCal G on December 28, 2014 at 9:26 am

    The article below indicates the what last message was from the pilot:


    __ The last communication between the pilot and air traffic control is made at 6:13 a.m. (2313 GMT Saturday), when the pilot asks to turn left and climb to 10,360 meters (34,000 feet) to “avoid clouds,” according to Djoko Murjatmodjo, Indonesia’s acting director general of transportation, who also says there was no distress signal from the cockpit.

    Below are some excerpts from an article by an “expert”:


    Yesterday aviation expert Peter Stuart Smith said it was curious that if QZ8501 had struck bad weather, why no further contact was made with Air traffic control.

    “Even if we assume that the aircraft did encounter such incredibly adverse weather conditions that it broke up in midair or the conditions led to the pilots losing control, there are still a number of questions that need answering,” said Mr Smith.

    “Obviously the first priority for the pilots is to fly the aircraft but relaying a message to Air Traffic Control (ATC) about what’s happening only involves depressing a single button on the control column and simply speaking.

    “It would also only take a few seconds to squawk 7700 (emergency) on the SSR box which would alert ATC to there being a problem although not what the problem was.”

    He said severe weather was a common feature of Indonesia at this time of year, but it was almost unheard of for a modern aircraft to be brought down by turbulence at altitude.

    “It’s a different situation when the aircraft is close to the ground but at altitude, even if the aircraft stalled, there would be ample height for the aircrew to recover the situation and regain control,” Mr Smith said.

    “It seems unlikely that simple bad weather could have caused the aircraft to crash.”

    Fellow aviation expert Neil Hansford said even if “human factors” were responsible for the disappearance of QZ8501, it was unlikely it would take long to find.

    He said unlike MH370, the A320-200 was within Indonesian airspace.

    “You haven’t got the complications of 370 where the Malaysians fluffed the (ATC) handover to the Vietnamese,” said Mr Hansford.

    “They know where this one was, and if they can’t find it then Houston, we have a problem.”

    I do hope they find the plane to bring some closure to the relatives, but if not lets see if the “story” starts to change.

  9. Enlil's a Dog on December 28, 2014 at 7:22 am

    I’m hearing sketchy reports of wreckage being spotted, but if it turns out to be nothing and once again the plane doesn’t turn up anywhere, as in the case with MH370, I wonder how they will spin this disaster??

    • Patricia on December 28, 2014 at 4:34 pm

      Updated: Sunday, 28 December, 2014 at 11:39 UTC

      Transport Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai asked Malaysians to remain calm and not listen to unverified news reports. When asked to comment on reported news that the missing Indonesia AirAsia flight QZ8501 had been found crashed in Belintung, Liow confirmed the reports to be false. “There is plenty of speculation that they have found the plane. At this point in time (5pm) that is not true. We are still looking for the plane,” he said.


  10. DanaThomas on December 28, 2014 at 4:41 am

    Just happens to be another Malaysian-owned carrier:
    “AirAsia Berhad (MYX: 5099) is a Malaysian low-cost airline headquartered near Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. AirAsia group operates scheduled domestic and international flights to 100 destinations spanning 22 countries. Its main hub is klia2, the low-cost carrier terminal at Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) in Sepang, Selangor, Malaysia: all its Kuala Lumpur departures and arrivals operate through this terminal. Its affiliate airlines Thai AirAsia, Indonesia AirAsia, Philippines AirAsia, AirAsia Zest and AirAsia India have hubs in Don Mueang International Airport, Soekarno–Hatta International Airport, Ninoy Aquino International Airport and Kempegowda International Airport respectively, while its subsidiary, AirAsia X, focuses on long-haul routes. AirAsia’s registered office is in Petaling Jaya, Selangor while its head office is at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.” (Wikipedia)

  11. Patricia on December 27, 2014 at 11:37 pm

    “The contact was lost about 42 minutes after takeoff from Indonesia’s Surabaya airport.”

    “The Singapore aviation authority said it was informed about the missing plane by Jakarta ground control about half an hour after the contact was lost.”

    Sunday, 28 December, 2014 at 04:47 (04:47 AM) UTC
    Continent: Indonesian Archipelago
    Country: Indonesia
    County / State: East Java
    Area: En route from Surabaya Airport to Singapore
    Coordinate: S 7° 22.733, E 112° 47.237


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