Sadly, in a way, 2015 is starting off rather like 2014. During the first quarter of last year, we had the now infamous case of Malaysia Air flight 370 disappearing on March 8. Now, we have the apparent crash of Air Asia flight QZ 8501 ushering out 2014 and ushering in 2015. Unlike Malaysia Air 370, which they're still trying to get their story straight on, some of Air Asia's bodies have been quickly found, raising, again, all those troublesome questions about Malaysia Air Flight 370, around which various speculations continue to swirl, including the notion that MH 17, shot down later that year over the Ukraine, was full of bodies that had all apparently died prior to that flight being shot down(some speculating, of course, that the bodies were from flight 370. And for those of you who track such things, there was a similar plot in the BBC's celebrated series Sherlock, the up-dating of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's famous detective into a 21st century context. In one episode, Sherlock's older brother, Mycroft Holmes (who works for the British government in some shadowy capacity, and who, it is made clear, has some sort of connection to MI-6) discloses an MI-6 plot concerning an airliner full of dead bodies that would be flown by remote control to create an "incident," and, to sweeten the plot line a bit, also reveals that they'd done it before, in conjunction with ... here it comes... the Germans. (In this context, it needs it be pointed out that the episode, A Scandal in Belgravia, aired almost three years ago to the day, on Jan 1, 2012.)... (...and yes, to answer the question some of you have, I am a big Sherlock Holmes fan, and though I don't think anyone can improve on British actor Jeremy Brett's portrayal, the BBC's classy updated version Sherlock is quite good and Benedict Cumberbatch has certainly made the character his own in an almost Brettian fashion.)

But back to Air Asia QZ 8501, which appears to be a "straightforward airline disaster."

Or does it?

For now there are beginning to be stories that the actual flight path of the aircraft was "somewhat unusual':

AirAsia Wreckage Reveals Latest Plane Crash Mystery

Here's the relevant information:

This morning, we recovered a total of four bodies and one of them was wearing a life jacket,” Tatang Zaenudin, an official with the search and rescue agency, told Reuters.

He declined to speculate on what the find might mean. AirAsia Chief Executive Tony Fernandes told reporters there had been no confirmation yet of the sonar image, nor of the discovery of the body wearing a life jacket.

Why is this surprising? Because as Reuters also conveniently notes, the fact that one person put on a life jacket suggests those on board had time before the aircraft hit the water, or before it sank. And yet the pilots did not issue a distress signal. The plane disappeared after it asked for permission to fly higher to avoid bad weather.”

And the article goes on to cite an anonymous pilot who concludes that this means the aircraft did not just "fall out of the sky."

Except, then there's this from the U.K.'s Daily Mail:

Stricken AirAsia plane soared 'as fast as a fighter jet' and then dropped almost vertically into Java Sea as if being thrust down by a giant hand, crash experts revealed today

And this from Australia's Sydney Morning Herald:

AirAsia flight's behaviour 'on the edge of logic'

As the latter article points out, an Indonesian expert is saying that the aircraft climbed rapidly, and then went into what for all intentions and purposes was a "power dive"(shades of a certain Egyptian airliner a few years ago):

"The AirAsia jet in which 162 people lost their lives this week behaved in ways "bordering on the edge of logic" according to Indonesian aviation analyst Gerry Soejatman citing leaked information from the air crash investigation team.

"The Airbus 320-200 climbed in a way that was impossible to achieve by the pilot, adding that it subsequently "didn't fall out of the sky like an aeroplane", he told Fairfax Media.

But Australia is saying something else:

"'It was like a piece of metal being thrown down. It's really hard to comprehend … The way it goes down is bordering on the edge of logic'.

"But Australian aviation expert, Peter Marosszeky, from the University of NSW, disputed some of the figures cited, saying the descent figures particularly were 'highly unlikely'."

But the Indonesian expert is sticking to his analysis:

"Mr Soejatman said that at least as baffling was "the extremely low ground speed" which was as low as 61 knots during the descent. This would suggest the plane was heading almost straight down, explaining why it was found in the water just 10km from its last point of radar contact."

In other words, the Indonesian expert is stating basically that the aircraft went nearly straight up (which may have led to a stall), and then almost straight down, covering only a distance of about 6 miles (10km) on the ground, a point made later in the article:

"Leaked figures show the plane climbed at a virtually unprecedented rate of 6000 to 9000 feet per minute, and "you can't do that at altitude in an Airbus 320 with pilot action".

"The most that could normally be expected would be 1000 to 1500 feet on a sustained basis, with up to 3000 feet in a burst, he said.

"The plane then fell at an even more incredible rate: 11,000 feet per minute with bursts of up to 24,000 feet per minute.

"He said the Air France A330 Airbus that crashed in 2009 killing 228 passengers also reached dizzying ascent and descent rates, but some of the figures cited by Mr Soejatman are higher.

'We can't rule out that the data is wrong,' he said, but added that they came from the aircraft itself, transmitted over the Mode S radar."

So what to do? Blame it on "highly unusual weather circumstances":

"The new claims lend weight to the impression that the plane was subject to extraordinary forces from the weather. AirAsia chief executive Tony Fernandes said earlier this week that preliminary investigations suggested the jet encountered "very unique" weather on its flight last Sunday morning from Surabaya to Singapore."

And, just to reassure everyone that it was the weather, the tragedy of the Air France Airbus that crashed over water on a flight from South America to Europe during a storm is recalled:

"He said the Air France A330 Airbus that crashed in 2009 killing 228 passengers also reached dizzying ascent and descent rates, but some of the figures cited by Mr Soejatman are higher."

One certainly cannot rule out weather, since the pilot of Air Asia QZ 8501 did request a change in altitude due to the weather. But given the steep angles of ascent and descent, one wonders just exactly how or when this particular passenger had time to put on a life-jacket. Was this done prior to the steep ascent or descent?

However, I don't know about you, but something in my high octane speculative intuition finds this all very unsettling, not the least of which is because MH 370's disappearance is still shrouded in mystery and obfuscation, and I cannot shake the impression that someone, or something, maybe both, appears to have some sort of curious interest in flights in the southeast Pacific. Weather? Sure, it could do that. Anyone who has seen weird pictures of things like hay embedded in trees after a tornado can attest to the fact that weather can and does do all sorts of unusual things. Scooping up an airliner and then slamming it down into the ocean a bare 6 miles from it's last recorded radar position might be one of them. But in an age where banksters are conveniently talking about "weather derivatives" (i.e., financializing weather itself), and when weather manipulation and control have entered into the capabilities of human technology(a handy thing to have around when one wants to financialize weather!), when Indonesian sovereign securities are sold off - for no good nor apparent financial reason - a week before the tragic tsunami, one begins to wonder. The bottom line for me is that MH 370, 17, and now Air Asia, may somehow be connected.

As the articles themselves note, the Indonesian expert is much less interested in the black box of the aircraft, than the wreckage of the aircraft itself, which will tell a great deal about the forces acting on the unfortunate airliner. To my mind, it is even more interesting that it is Indonesia that is observing, and stating for the record, the strange behavior  of the Air Asia flight, and that it is Australians that seem to be questioning the Indonesian expert. And both suggest to me that there are aspects of this sad story that both parties know, and are not openly discussing. My high octane speculative guess is that Indonesia knows that something is fishy, and that someone there is thinking in terms of technology, and perhaps connecting dots to the still mysterious disappearance of MH 370, and that the west wants to write it all off to a freak accident of the weather.

This may or may not be one to watch folks, but for my two cents' worth, I think it is.

See you on the flip side...

(My thanks to all of you who sent me these and other articles about this sad event.)

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  1. GizaBrother on January 5, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    When I read this stuff it feels almost like somebody is doing top secret military test operations on civilian airliners. First making one airliner remotely hijacked, vanishing from all radars. Mission completed. Then using an airliner as a weapon at a target area. Then using HAARP or similar in conjunction with some kind of force to turn that airliner into a fast moving heavily hitting weapon.

    All of these mysteries you’ve written about here lately Dr. Joseph, including the banker suicides, the disappearance of MH370, 17 and so on, it all seems so connected to me. Something very big is cooking, all of these strange things keep happening. I wonder what the date is, there’s much talk of 2016. It seems like there are lots and lots of preparations for something very big.

    Dr. Joseph, please investigate whether you can find any good correlations between all of these incidents and that cube that was placed on the Georgia Guidestones not so long ago, some have decoded the date on that cube to be 08/14/2016, Freemasonry/Knights Templar might be involved, possibly under negative ET influence. Are we witnessing an agenda of something so big that the preparations themselves contain casualties?! Is there some kind of date when all airplanes in the world will hit selected targets simultaneously with micro nukes all over the world, to cause a mass population decrease down to 500 million people?! Something is totally freaking off about all of these incidents, we don’t seem to be getting the kind of data back that shows that all of these incidents are natural suicides and airplane disasters. We must work hard on this one Dr. Joseph to find out exactly what’s going on, the size of this one compared to 911 could be beyond our wildest dreams.

  2. LSM on January 4, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    according to German MSM Air Asia did not have a license to fly on Sundays; only on 4 weekdays; so was Air Asia in the past always also flying on Sundays or was this Sunday flight an exception?- if the latter, WHY?- it’s an unanswered question; to my knowledge there is no further info on this topic-

    Larry in Germany

  3. Avenkat on January 4, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    I am going to keep it simple. Three Malaysian airline disasters that are not satisfactorily accounted for. What are the probability figures on that one? Good point being made about the gambling on people’s lives in order to profit hugely. We see that in the banksters’ little scam about insurance on their employees’ lives, and suddenly, people are dying. Really interesting. How much further can this travesty go? Yes. Malaysia has some (international?) court about war criminals–that is very interesting, too. I can tell you this: radar is radar and somebody knows what really happened.

  4. Patricia on January 4, 2015 at 8:45 am


    In the latest incident to hit an AirAsia flight departing from Surabaya, the engine of a plane failed just before it took off from Juanda International Airport in the Indonesian city, local news media reported.

    The plane had been taxiing for 2m to 3m before takeoff when the engine suddenly died, horrifying passengers, who heard a loud sound, Indonesia’s Metro TV reported.

    Thankfully, the Bandung-bound plane made it back to the gate and the 120 passengers on board were then asked to disembark while the plane underwent repairs, Indonesia’s Metro TV reported.

    Passenger Yusuf Fitriadi told Metro TV that a man clad in pilots’ uniform told passengers waiting at the terminal that the starter monitor had malfunctioned.

    “The plane was ready and moved, but suddenly a loud sound was heard, the sound of the engine disappeared and the plane moved backwards. We were shocked and panicked.

    “The plane was then pulled back to where it parked and we were asked by the stewardess to leave the plane,” the passenger was quoted by Metro TV as saying.

    The plane was supposed to have departed at 9pm local time on Saturday.

    Yusuf said that the airline later told passengers that the flight would be resumed after the issue had been attended to, but about 90 per cent of them refused to re-board the plane, fearing that the fault would recur during the flight.

    AirAsia then refunded the plane fare of those passengers who had declined to continue with the flight, Metro TV reported.

  5. TRM on January 3, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    EMP? Naturally occurring? I remember the Air India flight with the sole survivor (a young girl) who said just before the crash everyone on board was shocked (as in electrical shock).

    Southeast Pacific is a region with lots of fault lines. Were they over any known plate boundaries when they crashed?

  6. Frankie Calcutta on January 3, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    On the face of it, I would suspect the western pedophilocracy are punishing the Malaysians with historic flooding using weather modification and the Malaysian pilots errantly flew into the man made vortex with devastating results. Of course, CIA man and airline CEO Tony Fernandez expected this and even arranged for the plane to disregard the restricted airspace and meet its doom so he and his CIA partners could profit handsomely off the crash while further punishing renegade Malaysia. And in Hawaii, CIA man Obamma had the desperate Malaysian prime minister meet him on a golf course in order to negotiate the cessation of the brutal weather attack on his country but because the Malaysian leader didn’t agree to the concessions, the western global media machine turned him into an insensitive chump who would rather play golf in beautiful Hawaii with a US President than cater to the needs of his countrymen during the massive flooding. To add insult to injury, the western madmen then flew the plane into the weather vortex to compound Malaysia’s tragedy and the prime minister’s humiliation (or possibly even a demonstration of what may happen to his plane.) Now a real cynic would state that the Malaysian prime minister is a CIA man himself and was celebrating the destruction with his western handlers with a game of golf and some child blood letting later in the basement of the club house.

    But if I were to dig a little deeper and put on my Sherlock Holmes’ hat, I would speculate that the Japanese yakuza is in charge of the weather modification currently devastating Malaysia in order to disrupt the Asian palm oil market and thereby profit in the palm oil futures market. Moreover, the prediction made days before the plane crash in China was not made by a human being but instead made by an adolescent artificial intelligence spawned in China and now announcing its predictive capabilities to the west and possibly even challenging Legion.

    • jedi on January 4, 2015 at 10:18 am

      great analysis Frankie, perhaps Legion (or ???) is flexing its advanced military capabilities of dominance. A sort of a trap being played out, Why should we treat you any differently then when you treated us so callously when you thought we were helpless and vulnerable. A turning of the table exposing the oppositions intentions. Thus treating future negotiations in a dictatorial subservient, condescending manner, stereotyping them somewhat, with a thousand years of evidence to present. Intelligent and honorable, and no room for sophistry techniques…pretty smart bunch if that was the overall plan.

      Its like in Viet Nam, all the high level South Vietnam agents were actually working with the North as double agents. Which of course Dulles for example would of been aware all along. You can treat them in negotiations as unhonorable, hostile, lacking intelligence in long term problem solving capabilities and morally defective. Like it has been a 400 year old plan all along….and send a puppet to deliver your ultimatums, like Obama…a cross gender, illegal alien, …lol,..pretty bizarre.

      Good analysis Frankie…you’re in a league of a very select group.

  7. emlong on January 3, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    Someone here posted this earlier. There are further ramifications:

    “It should be reminded that the Germans (right after the Kuala Lumpur tribunal) offered consulate assistance to Israeli citizens in Muslim countries which have no diplomatic ties with Israel, and the two Muslim countries specifically mentioned in that German announcement happens to be Malaysia and Indonesia,

    in other words, these two countries are not behaving in Israel’s interests, and may become “hostile” towards “Israeli citizens”(including dual citizens in the U.S.), and that’s where “Kuala Lumpur tribunal verdict” becomes relevant,
    possible “hostile action” by Malaysia and Indonesia could include “arrest of Israeli citizens”, that’s where “German consulate assistance” becomes relevant.”

  8. basta on January 3, 2015 at 2:08 pm

    Three major airline disasters in the past year, all Malaysian.

    Good and bad come in threes, and I am now casting my lot with those who speculate that these “accidents” are the Cabal’s payback for Malaysia’s impertinence in convening the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission.

    From Wiki: “…the tribunal unanimously convicted in absentia former President Bush, former Vice President Dick Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, former Deputy Assistant Attorneys General John Yoo and Jay Bybee, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, and former counselors David Addington and William Haynes II of conspiracy to commit war crimes, specifically torture.”

    Gee, golly, gosh! What a run of really bad luck, Maylasia!

    • jedi on January 3, 2015 at 2:23 pm

      I dont see why they would be upset…Pres Johnson was indicted on 12 murder charges by a federal grand jury….gotta be another angle.

      I think it gives them street creed, being wanted gangsters…gives them a little bit of a swagger and there threats would be taken seriously….
      like the hans solo character being wanted and living with a death mark.,, in it for the money.

      Probably a start up asian cartel getting some street cred and insurance fraud capital to play with….

      • basta on January 3, 2015 at 4:05 pm

        You don’t see why any of those cited would be upset to be grouped with the world’s last batch of convicted war criminals, which included Bormann and Goering?? Granted, Kuala Lumpur is not the Hague, but still, a convicted war criminal is still a convicted war criminal, and those stains don’t come out in the laundry.

        It seems rather likely that those named, given their proven track-record of A-list psychopathy, would plot vengeance.

        • jedi on January 4, 2015 at 8:54 am

          Those cited live in a different world then you or I.

          It is hard too imagine what they are up too. I actually have had the pleasure to be in there company when I was younger. They are on the surface very nice people, articulate, intelligent, well groomed and imho high moral character humorous, non bigoted…very normal people, living remarkably privileged lives yet down to earth types. It is really weird paradox too speak of them this way…but that was my personal observation of them back then. I am not talking about ceo s, or high level public types, …..very strange.

  9. Jon on January 3, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Having lived through one of the worst typhoons of the last 200 years, I can attest to the fact that tropical storms can do damage way, way beyond the imaginations of those who have never seen it – just like tornadoes.

    That said, if the RT reference in another comment is true, then the flight becomes extremely suspicious. If airlines had been told to avoid flying that route on Sundays, and this one manages to fall through the cracks and fly then anyway, then gets destroyed, that alone is proof that something very suspicious was definitely going on.

    We could speculate endlessly about what that something is, from weapons testing to movement of large “objects” under cover of storms and flight restrictions. The fact is, they had to have a reason to put that restriction in place.

    Whatever that “something” is, it would seem to be something which cannot be ramped down on short notice, else someone monitoring radar and flight clearances would have noticed and called it off, or ordered the plane to return. This would suggest weather or other weapons play, especially since Bearden has mentioned that large EM weapons of certain kinds build up energy and cannot just be shut off – they need to go through an orderly power-down which can take a long period of time, and can even be dangerous – as with Chernobyl.

    Could be another Flight 007 type event – someone using an innocent civilian flight to play “fox and hounds” to test an unknown (or suspected) response, or even a straighforward demonstration of technology for “someone’s” benefit.

    In either case, weather does not constrain itself to certain days of the week. This was something involving intelligent control, period.

    I have to second the Jeremy Brett Sherlock assessment. I find his to be the most subtle and interesting portrayal of the traditional character.

    That said, I think Cumberbatch did a very interesting modern version, and I was intrigued at how the concept of the memory palace was central to the last season. I was prepared to hate the series, but ended up liking it a lot.

  10. DownunderET on January 3, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    We could be here all day long discussing this missing flight. But, you cannot get away from the fact that all three planes were “owned” by the same company “Malaysian”. Now the internet is alive with conspiracy theories, but that’s normal, what we have to do is wade through all the facts and figures to try and find “something”.
    I have a friend who was a Qantas 747 captain, and he told me the worst pilots in the world were Asian pilots, irrespective of the amount of flying time/hours.
    So what do we have here, three missing planes, who all go down in Asia, and all seem to be “unusual” events. The one thing about this last crash is the fight recorders, if there is even a hint that these recorders are “damaged, or not found or data scrambled, you can bet that there truly IS A CONSPIRACY….watch this space.

  11. Robert Barricklow on January 3, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    Remember Flight 800? It was a missile.
    Now “they” have an Arthur C Clarke magical, powerful invisible hand,
    that’s drawing into the Dark Side of the casino financial/ops game.
    There’s nothing quite like betting on revenge.
    And the so-called news, is throwing-up all kinds of stories,
    from which to pick & choose your own poisons.
    Little did I know, when watching the Bullwinkle Show,
    that the Fractured Fairy Tales[futures’ market]
    would all too soon, be sponsored by Bullwinkle’s Fearless Leaders.

  12. Ramura on January 3, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    I want to hear the black box recording when they find it. Did the “weather condition” include “green fog?” 🙂

  13. kitona on January 3, 2015 at 11:00 am

    Pardon for going off on a tangent but the case of Air France 447 is quite fascinating. You could use the cliche of it being a “perfect storm” of bad circumstances but it appears that pilot human error and basic design flaws played a significant role in the crash.

    Here’s a link to an excellent 7min video explaining the situation with noted pilot Chesley Sullenberger (yes, the same pilot that successfully landed a plane on the Hudson River a few years ago):

    To understand what happened you need to understand the differences between the cockpit design of a traditional aircraft, such as a Boeing for example, and the Airbus that crashed. Do a google image search for “Boeing cockpit” and “Airbus cockpit” if you can. Notice anything?

    A traditional plane like a Boeing feature a large steering wheel like mechanism called a “yoke” that sits between the pilot’s legs. These are large and require two hands to control. Additionally, they are mechanically connected to each other. So if one pilot is steering then the co-pilot’s yoke is also moving back & forth, up & down right in front of him in his lap too. By contrast, the Airbus design has no yoke. Instead, steering is controlled by a small “joystick”-like interface off to the side of each pilot. Moreover, these joysticks are not mechanically connected and move independently of each other. This design makes it difficult to sense what the other pilot is doing.

    According to transcripts of the flight conversation on Air France 447, apparently the youngest of the pilots unwittingly managed to steer the plane nearly straight into the ocean by doing exactly the opposite of what he was supposed to be doing (i.e., pointing the nose down instead of up). Because the youngest pilot didn’t seem to realize what he was doing, the more senior pilots couldn’t figure out what was happening until it was too late.

    Those final moments of realization must have been mind-blowing to the senior pilots on-board.
    -Older pilot, “Give me the controls. We’re going to crash. I can’t believe this is happening.”
    -Younger pilot, “What? What is happening?”…End tape, plane slams into the ocean killing all aboard.

    If you’d like to get a sense of just how subtle the hand & lower arm movements are that control an Airbus, check out the following youtube video. It’s posted by Avianca pilot Rodrigo David (who actually posts lots of great flight videos if you like that sort of thing). Skip to about the 2 minute mark and you can watch his left arm in action during landing. At near 2min 50 secs there is closeup of him sitting in the other seat and using his right hand to control the plane. It’s remarkably but also somewhat scary that this massive planes (and all the lives on them) are literally controlled by a mere flick of the wrist:

    Back to Air France 447, it seems absurd that a pilot would steer the plane into the ocean yet that appears to be exactly what happened. I doubt that it was intentional and given the circumstances, it’s easy to imagine that the young pilot tensed up and inadvertently pulled back on the joy stick without realizing it as he (like the other pilots) tried to figure out what was wrong.

  14. marcos toledo on January 3, 2015 at 10:33 am

    How the banksters added transport disasters to their list ways to line their pockets with blood money. What next staging murders, torture, robberies so they can lay bets in their derivative markets. Have the lives of the rest of us become game pieces in these wealth addicts making obscene profits. The Australian anti-nuclear campaigner Helen Caldicott reported strange effects with weather due to climate change doing a flight to Australia in the 1980’s.

  15. chris on January 3, 2015 at 9:47 am

    hurling asteroids, now throwing airplanes…
    and, that was a rather good BBC series.

  16. jedi on January 3, 2015 at 9:30 am

    The air france crash also coincided with a non authorised missle launch, documented by eye witnesses, and strangely the incident only interested the local sheriff dept, out of texas 30 minutes before the aircraft went down, which is exactly how much time a missle would take to reach the aircraft….frivolous coincidences that need not concern any federal bodies that are supposedly in place to investigate these matters.
    Allegedly a passenger on board was going to testify to the eu about arms, drugs, in south america.
    The official version was it was struck by lightening. Other pilots in the area reported clear did weather maps.
    …what a joke.

    • Lost on January 3, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      That’s pretty far for a cruise missile. And way far for a normal AA rocket.

      And ground launched cruise missiles are banned by treaty.

      I guess it’s not impossible, but it looks like the claims about a rocket downing the TWA file from New York in 1998: A distraction.

      Anyhow, I thought the official speculation was faulty airspeed sensors, which then made the plane compensate automatically too much and too quickly.

      • jedi on January 3, 2015 at 1:29 pm

        the eyewitnesses were passengers and pilots aboard a commercial airliner that had to preform evasive maneuvers to avoid collisions.
        Like I stated it was an unauthorized, accidental launch that was thoroughly investigated by the local sheriff….who assured the local news channel reporter that aired that he would personally get to the bottom of this.

        per usual Lost post….its over on you tube Lost if you care to investigate before repudiate.

        • Lost on January 3, 2015 at 3:20 pm


          So you’re clear, unless YouTube has clear video of the launch and clear video of some plane getting out of the way, and clearly shows the missile in the middle of the Atlantic at the time the flight from Brazil to France went down, the fact of YouTube video proves nothing.

          So why direct me to Utube?

          Texas is still far from the mid point of the Atlantic between Africa and Brazil.

          • Lost on January 3, 2015 at 3:57 pm


            Tossing names about does you no credit.

            There are plenty of Youtube videos about that Air France crash, but none when the term “rocket” is included in the search.

            Use of the term “lame stream media” doesn’t help your case.

            What would help: Video of the a very very long range rocket (cruise missile) being launched from something identifiable as Texas at the right time.

            I don’t care what some small TV station said absent video of the right kind of missile. I also don’t care what CBS News or say the New York Times said.

            Most of what you’ve posted reads like those who claim the World Trade Towers dustified because of bombs–and at least in the WTC case there’s some evidence of normal explosions.

          • Lost on January 3, 2015 at 5:19 pm


            And now distraction, when there’s no evidence for citation.

            I also don’t believe the claims of those who say they saw a jet liner hit the Pentagon.

            “Simpson’s”, not aware of that one.

            Have no idea about weird “christian” diets–on Tuesdays in Sept.

            Try “The Lone Gunmen”, episode 1, first broadcast in March 2001.

            I’m having to think much of what you’ve posted is to encourage distraction.

            If the Air France jet was brought down with a weapon, it was unlikely to be the rocket type. More like something that could toss the plane up and then severely down real quickly. (Or something that could command the computer to increase the engine speed and the climb and then stop.)

  17. bdw000 on January 3, 2015 at 8:52 am

    From Jan 3 on RT:

    “Meanwhile, the missing jet might have had no permission to fly from Surabaya to Singapore on Sunday morning, and its flights on this route had been officially suspended for that day of the week since October.

    “We will also investigate the party that gave permission to AirAsia to fly on that day,” Djoko Muratmodjo, acting general director for Indonesia’s air navigation in the transport ministry said on Saturday.

    Officials are going to investigate all AirAsia flight schedules.

    “We won’t focus on licenses, just schedules,” Muratmodjo said adding it was possible the company’s license in Indonesia might be revoked.

    Before October, the airline was allowed to operate along that route daily, but in October, the ministry issued a permit for AirAsia to fly the route only on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays, for the winter of late 2014 to early 2015, transportation ministry spokesman J.A. Barata said.”

    • bdw000 on January 3, 2015 at 8:54 am

      So, was somebody testing some sort of new technology (military or weather) on the day AirAsis was not supposed to be flying there?

  18. Lost on January 3, 2015 at 6:34 am

    A violent up and down, testing of a weapon perhaps or one out of control? Or also possibly some aspect of a tornado not well understood–the same one that’s been known to teleport straw into solid glass.

    Clearly the tower crane boom in New York, hours before the flood of 2012, experienced something similar. It ended up folded over the top of the crane cab a thousand feed in the air.. But there was no other obvious damage to the crane or building. And the boom likely shouldn’t have folded–it looked like wet spaghetti draped over the top of the crane.

    Life jacket, speculation, bet these events don’t really generate g-forces on the occupants. (Sort of like gyroscopes losing angular momentum, but still moving, in the plane of precession–like the Eric Laithwaite videos from the 1970s. Supposedly Newtonian equations account for this, but where the momentum is going takes some leaps–it’s more likely a space time bubble.)

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