THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO “HMMM…” : AND SPEAKING OF ...
Now, here's one that made me sit and ponder for several minutes, and I suspect it will you too. It was shared by Mr. V.T., and I suspect his reasons for sharing it with us will become immediately apparent once you read it:
FORT KNOX: Tainted With Radioactive Gold?
Now, excepting the sad story of the retiree from the plant, Mr. Harding, who was diagnosed with stomach cancer but denied a disability on the basis that his cancer was caused by eating "country ham" instead of walking through, and breathing, uranium hexaflouride (yes, folks, the corruption and stupidity in the USSA is that bad!), what I found interesting here was the irradiated gold story itself, and the slant it might provide as a high octane speculative explanation for all the high strangeness going on in the bullion markets, not to mention all that high strangeness with obfuscated amounts of gold bullion. (Not to mention that, once again, Ian Fleming's weird James Bond storyline plots seem to find yet another confirmation that the man, in some loose sense, was writing fiction based on fact. One can hear German actor Gerd Frobe even now, as James Bond is strapped spread-eagled to a table while an industrial laser calmly slices its easy way through the steel plate up to... well, you get the idea. Bond says, "Do you expect me to talk?" And Frobe aka Auric Goldfinger calmly responds, "No Mr. Bond. I expect you to die!")
According to the article, between 1964 and 1985, approximately 1 to 2 tons of gold was recovered from nuclear weapons during "reprocessing" at the plant:
"Now, according to the Department of Energy Report released December 21, 2000 on the Cold War ERA activities at the Paducah site:
"In a separate report, DOE also investigated past metals recovery programs performed at the site from 1952 to 1986. The review included an extensive study of historical documents and interviews with current and retired employees. During this period, large quantities of steel, nickel, aluminum, copper, monel, cobalt, gold and silver were recovered at Paducah.
"'Based on available records, DOE estimates that between 2,800 and 5,300 pounds of gold from retired nuclear weapon assemblies and scrap parts was recovered and shipped from the Paducah Plant from 1964 to 1985. The operations used to reclaim gold were kept separate from other materials and contaminated processes onsite, but were conducted in contaminated areas of two buildings. For much of this period, recovered gold was shipped to the U.S. Department of Treasury for refinement and reuse. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, some gold was sold to commercial reprocessors.'
"So, there you have it. The Department of Energy confirms in the released reports that 2,800-5,300 pounds of gold were recycled and shipped from the Paducah plant. What is really interesting is the sentence that states, FOR MUCH OF THIS PERIOD, RECOVERED GOLD WAS SHIPPED TO THE U.S. TREASURY FOR REFINEMENT AND REUSE.
"Now…. I don’t see how that sentence could be misconstrued as it was from an official government agency. Of course, we don’t know how much gold was recast into bars and made it into the U.S. Gold Reserve, or how radioactive this gold may have been, but we do have clear evidence that it did occur.
"If we consider that say 3-4,000 pounds of gold were recycled and made their way into the U.S. Gold Reserve, that’s upwards of (160) 400 oz bars sitting in Fort Knox or sold to some POOR CENTRAL BANK SLOB… who has no idea the gold they received may indeed be glowing." (All emphases in the article or added in the original article).
Now, some readers here will recall that I mentioned gold in connection to the uranium recovered by the USA on the surrendering German u-boat, U-234(yes, it was really numbered that!), in my book The Nazi International. For those who don't know that story, the U-234 departed Germany with 80 gold-lined cylinders containing uranium, in 1945, with two Japanese officers on board, bound for Japan and Japan's atom bomb project. The German officers of the U-boat recounted seeing the Japanese officers labeling these cylinders "U235". While I won't go into all the details of why I think this U-boat and its cargo were part of a super-secret deal negotiated between the USA and Nazi Party Reichsleiter Martin Bormann (I recount that scenario in my book, for those who might be interested), what is interesting in the atomic-weapons context is the significance of gold for uranium storage, for gold is the metal-of-choice to store highly enriched, i.e., weapons grade uranium, rather than lead. The reason? Gold is not corrosive with uranium, and hence, won't corrupt the stock, like lead would. It is the shielding metal of choice for storing highly enriched uranium, not to mention shielding the electronic circuitry of nuclear weapons, which circuitry has to fire perfectly, and hence, has to be shielded from radiation.
Now why am I bothering you with all this?
Well, in the context of the article, it should be obvious. Gold is used in nuclear weapons, particularly those utilizing uranium as some sort of fuel, even though plutonium is the fuel of choice for fission weapons in and of themselves (think of the third stage of those 1950s three-stage fission-fusion-fission weapons here too, folks). So, according to the article, a mere 1-2 tons gold was recovered from nuclear weapons that were being reprocessed or retired, due to obsolescence or for whatever reason. This is plausible, as the big clunky H-bombs of the 1950s were replaced by smaller lighter weapons from the 1960s to 1980s. But as I mentioned at the beginning of this article, perhaps this story has something to do with all the strangely obfuscated figures for the amounts of gold in the world, not to mention all those strange stories of gold-backed bearer bonds, not to mention the limitless possibilities associated with gold re-hypothecation, Operation Golden Lily, and so on. It might even have something to do with why certain countries want their gold back, and why it isn't being given to them. Bear with me on this one, as I explain in my high octane speculation of the day:
A mere 1-2 tons would certainly not account for the wide discrepancy of figures we've seen for amounts of gold bullion in the world. But here, I am bold to suggest, we are dealing with perhaps a bit of obfuscation and deliberate dissembling, for the article states that this recovered gold was merely from the nuclear weapons themselves. But as I've also indicated with the U-234 story, gold is the metal of choice for storage of highly enriched uranium. Thus, one must also consider that gold used for storage of enriched uranium might also have been reprocessed, and that consideration would lead to higher figures for such reprocessed gold. Thus, any way one slices it, a certain amount of the world's gold is of necessity essential for the thermonuclear powers (the USA, Russia, France, the UK, China, and in a de facto sense, Germany, and in a probable but "unannounced" sense, India and Israel).
So one reason for the obfuscated bullion figures is "national security," but in a dual, not a singular, sense, for such figures would obviously, disclose the financial health of a nation, and in the deeper murkier sense, discrepancies between the publicly stated figures and actual amounts of bullion on deposit would disclose how large (or small) a nation's nuclear program really was. One would, in effect, have to obfuscate the amounts of bullion estimates lower than the actual amounts of existing bullion if simply for the reason that some of the world bullion stockpile was irradiated. This raises the possibility that such nuclear programs may have been far larger than even publicly available figures of warheads and megatonnage that were bandied about during the Cold War have indicated. And for the gold-bugs and gold standard advocates, this would also mean that the gold standard, in the thermonuclear age, is really an H-bomb standard.
Bottom line: there may be something hugely significant to this story. But if there is, it may be quite a while before we hear any more significant details about it.
See you on the flip side...
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I wonder how much gold would be needed to keep nuclear missiles pre positioned in space? All that stellar radiation would require a heck of a lot of gold for shielding.
I wonder if all those space missions were for swapping out worn out circuits.
If most of the world’s gold were to be hoarded by a certain group, what could the nations’ economies use to back up their currency and trade?
Just noting the insulation and shielding properties of gold that you mentioned Dr Joseph…
Q; Have you ever been able to draw a connection between the Nazi “Bell” and gold being used significantly in its construction as a conductor of and insulator against its “exotic” energy output?
If so, it could help explain WHERE all the PHYSICAL GOLD has gone – ie straight into the secret space program – and why Fort Knox has not been audited in over 50 years and why no one else’s gold held by the Fed (eg Germany’s) can easily or swiftly be returned.
I just listened to the latest vidchat so I’m wishing you a belated Happy Birthday.
In Bill Still’ excellent documentary “The Money Masters”, he tells the story of an old guy who called him and said “boy have I got a story for you”, he went on to say that there was “no gold” at Fort Knox.
Mr. Still then asked the gentlemen to send him whatever he had on the subject, which turned out to be letters from the Treasure’ office etc. It turns out the gold at Fort Knox has to audited every year by government law. Now here comes the bombshell, it hasn’t been audited since 1955.
So the scene in “Goldfinger” where 007 is shackled to an atomic bomb inside Fort Knox may be a little farfetched, but what if there isn’t any gold there “to be atomized”.
Because it doesn’t really matter if there’s gold in Fort Knox.
There are ways of making it and thereby there are ways of replacing it if it’s really necessary for some reason.
Well isn’t the way our oligarchs as always behaved. When have they ever considered us anything but erect livestock to be worked to death at their pleasure. NO matter your ethic background if your not one of the in crowd your worthless garbage to them. Since this gold is radioactive the Germans wont have to turn on the lights when they go to Fort Knox to view their gold.
So, for the past +50 yrs. FedGov.Inc has been harvesting gold any way it can.. What does that tell you? It is apparently held in high regard and they are willing to endanger lives to accomplish this. The next question is, where did it all go? Is it still on planet Earth? The farther down the rabbit hole you go, the more like a comic book it becomes. My guess is, that if and when the entirety of the pillaging is revealed. There will be an Off World Civ or two involved.
How do you know it wasn’t the Lockheed or Union Carbide doing the harvesting of the gold? They are the contractors of record.
Another iconic quote from that movie was Goldfinger’s,
“Once is happenstance; twice is coincidence;
the third time it’s enemy action”.
It’s beginning to look like,
the deeper one looks into gold,
the deeper one goes into the rabbit hole.
The book CRITICAL MASS that tells the ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING story of U234 is highly recommended (but only available used for $100 or more now):
There is no proof (just hints) that Martin Bormann was involved, but the evidence that the US may have needed the Uranium from Germany to build their first atom bomb is very convincing IMHO.
Doubt that it means anything, but the author’s last name (Carter Plympton Hydrick) has a creepy resemblance to Reinhard Heydrich
And thank you JPF for telling us about this author.
I realize in Critical Mass he does not say Bormann was involved… only hints at it. I lay out my reasons for thinking this in some detail in Nazi International
And anyone without scalar tech can’t reasonably get and keep their mitts on it….
Currently reading “James Bond is Real: The Untold Story of Political & Military Technological Threats Ian Fleming Warned Us About.” Over 600 (footnoted!) pages by Mike L. Sparks, detailing his thesis that Ian Fleming was, in fact, very high in MI6 during WWII and may have been tasked with getting the high-ranking Nazi’s out of Germany at the end. Quitting in disgust and unable to speak freely about what he knew, he used “fiction/faction” (facts as fiction) to warn the world about the ongoing Nazi presence, as well as technologies that were real.
It’s a fascinating read. May have to re-read the James Bond books (I read them as a teen…and that was a LONG time ago)…
I more than suspect there are much more powerful weapons than H-bombs. I realize this point isn’t news.
Nor do I think the Russians and the US would have agreed to rid themselves of so many nuclear warheads 20 years ago if the bombs had real value.
Now, it’s interesting to learn of this use of gold. And yep, corporate/DOE America would be likely to just recycle radioactive gold. It’s not the first time “valuable” elements have been stripped out of junked tech using irresponsible methods; methods that leave the “valuable” elements contaminated.
Unless there is some super secret use for gold, which can be made anyhow out of mercury or copper, it is next to valueless. (I guess yes uranium nuclear warheads would be a former secret use.)
Also why imply a linkage between the Harding story and gold? There’s no mention of gold in the Washington Post article, and every other thing about the sloppy processes could have given him cancer.
Or gold is secretly really valuable, but some party wants to drive down the price, so release this story on the Oak Ridge website. I realize the Oak Ridge story is 15 years old, which is when gold was comparatively cheap. (Still gold can be made. And Russia likely does so industrial quantity from copper.)
Maybe that’s why the Germans asked for their gold. America has been making noises about reducing their nuclear arsenal for a number of years now, perhaps the Germans wanted to see how far we’d really come with that.
That’s a different take.
Why not give it back, what better way to “kill” numerous birds with one stone. You satisfy the Germans with some of “their” gold and rid yourself of irradiated gold bars at the same time. This seems to be a no-brainer for the corrupt and twisted cabal running the Amerikan empire today.
Jesus H. Christmas. Wonder if the Germans read this article? They may reconsider wanting their gold back…
Smart Germans would know this and know that gold isn’t real valuable. And can be made if need be.