CHINESE AMBASSADOR TO THE EU: THE UKRAINE IS BECOMING A DISTRACTION IN ...

A couple of weeks ago, Mr. V.T. shared this very interesting article with me, on the warnings of China's ambassador in Brussels, Mr. Qu Zing, that the USA's policy in the Ukraine is becoming a vortex:

Chinese diplomat tells West to consider Russia's security concerns over Ukraine

China Warns U.S. to Stop Its Ukrainian Proxy War Against Russia

You'll note that in the second article, international polls are increasingly showing that the world is beginning to see the USA, not as a guarantor of international order and stability, but as its principal threat:

"Shortly before Obama’s coup in Ukraine, Gallup International issued, on 30 December 2013, a poll of 65 countries, which found that:

“The US was the overwhelming choice (24% of respondents) for the country that represents the greatest threat to peace in the world today. This was followed by Pakistan (8%), China (6%), North Korea, Israel and Iran (5%). Respondents in Russia (54%), China (49%) and Bosnia (49%) were the most fearful of the US as a threat.”

"More details of that poll were reported here."

But the real story here is the almost mystifying words of Mr. Qu Xing himself. Here's the context, according to the first article from Reuters:

"Qu Xing, China's ambassador to Belgium, was quoted by state news agency Xinhua late on Thursday as blaming competition between Russia and the West for the Ukraine crisis, urging Western powers to "abandon the zero-sum mentality" with Russia.

"He said the "nature and root cause" of the crisis was the "game" between Russia and Western powers, including the United States and the European Union.

"He said external intervention by different powers accelerated the crisis and warned that Moscow would feel it was being treated unfairly if the West did not change its approach.

"'The West should abandon the zero-sum mentality, and take the real security concerns of Russia into consideration,' Qu was quoted as saying.

"His comments were an unusually public show of understanding from China for the Russian position. China and Russia see eye-to-eye on many international diplomatic issues but Beijing has generally not been so willing to back Russia over Ukraine.

"China has also been cautious not to be drawn into the struggle between Russia and the West over Ukraine's future, not wanting to alienate a key ally."

And in that context, consider this bit of "friendly advice" to the US Department of State from a key Chinese ambassador in Europe:

"Qu said Washington's involvement in Ukraine could "become a distraction in its foreign policy".

"'The United States is unwilling to see its presence in any part of the world being weakened, but the fact is its resources are limited, and it will be to some extent hard work to sustain its influence in external affairs,' Qu was quoted as saying."(Emphasis added)

In other words, Mr. Qu is stating essentially what has already happened: the Ukraine has now become the focus of US foreign policy to such an extent that other crucial policy areas - Latin America, and Europe - for example, have been relegated to an almost secondary status, and even then, such attention as is now focused on those areas will increasingly be seen through the filter of the Ukrainian mess. By drawing a line in the sand (or, perhaps in this case, in the marshes along the Dnieper River), the US has committed that most egregious of chess errors: it has pinned itself. It is becoming the vortex into which all other foreign policy considerations are being drawn. The result has been the continual slide of traditional allies away from Washington, as witnessed most recently by M. Hollande's and Frau Merkel's attempts to broker a solution in the Ukraine with Moscow and Kiev. Meanwhile, Mr. Putin has not been inactive, having concluded recent agreements with Egypt to incorporate that country into the growing tapestry of the Eurasian Economic Union. And of course, all this during a time when there have been calls, both in the United Kingdom and in the United States for a beefed up propaganda war, because the perception now exists, even for such droning "leaders" as US Secretary of State John Ketchup Kerry, that the West is losing the propaganda war with Russia and its highly effective media outlets.

The problem is, of course, that the USA and UK have lost the trust and any moral capital they may once have had, not only by backing a coup against a legitimate government, but by backing forces in the Ukraine that - to put it euphemistically - have a questionable and dubious background at best. To add insult to injury, the Anglosphere media organs have stuck by the officially sanctioned narrative that all aggression and all fault lies on Russia's doorstep, and none on its own. In order to extricate itself from the mess of its own making, that narrative will have to be acknowledged as false, if for no other reason to restore some semblance of balance and sanity to the situation, and to allow that "pin" to become unstuck. In the wake of American-sponsored aggression along the peripheries of the old Soviet Union, beginning with the South Ossetia affair in 2008, the narrative of "Russian aggression" just isn't going to play, regardless of whatever faults of alleged faults one wishes to find in Mr. Putin. No one's buying it. And a mere "fix in propaganda" isn't going to do the trick either. What's needed is action, and a genuine "correction of the narrative", a genuine admission of some fault in the matter, even if it's only in the form of "we miscalculated," may go a bit of the way towards defusing the situation. But so long as the narrative is not corrected - and let's face it, it's simply false - then American foreign policy will become increasingly stuck and inflexible, and allies will continue to desert.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

25 Comments

  1. Blue Dragon Lord on March 19, 2015 at 12:55 am

    In answer to some of the comments here for clarification. The disputed areas around them are only ones with natural resources such as oil, conclusion self explanatory. The comments made by ‘ShiningBrow’ should be burned into the memory banks of all readers here 100%. As it happens i too live in the One country Two systems and a thousand red packets (China) red packets for those who do not know is corruption back handers for party members i for one have been battling against this a long time. ‘Delurking’ also on the ball his comments right on the button with historical facts well done.

    For clarification in Paris 1908 bankers you know which ones right met with leaders and members of the revolution who were to overthrow the emperor using funds from heritage fund and accounts of the emperor himself this let the bankers into the accounts and they have never left and have been back room advisors ever since historical fact. Just to remind you i have been involved for many years on these and related subjects as i have stated clearly before.



    • DanaThomas on March 19, 2015 at 6:02 am

      Thanks, perhaps you could recommend some reading on this subject and on the history of bullion in China in the early 20th century… before “Golden Lily”.



      • Blue Dragon Lord on March 19, 2015 at 9:33 pm

        Most are written in Mandarin and can only be found now in ordinary book shops in Honk Kong and some special street vendors if you can read Chinese the the ‘blog’ site for the really old stuff myths and legends what was call prophecies but now know as looking through time (cheating really) but the people who read there are usually old elders of the families real and fake alike.

        However these people know Dragons are a reality not myths right here is the blog for you the list of books shall be posted within a couple of days, do not stay on the site too long as it is a finger wagging site against those not doing their job for saving the humans due to hijackers trying to steal the funds set in place over 3,500 years but good place to start if you like matrix puzzles you will see how dimensional dragons think as the poems are written every which way like a cube have fun if you read Mandarin as unique multiple meanings for each words you get the idea http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/5306347414



        • DanaThomas on March 20, 2015 at 1:46 am

          Thanks



  2. emlong on March 18, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    Isn’t this mostly about petrodollars and the dollar remaining the world reserve currency which is being threatened mightily by the oil and gas partnership developing between Russia and China? At least, that is the bedtime story the oligarchs tell themselves. The whole fracking Ponzi scheme is beautifully dissected in the video below by no-nonsense energy analyst Art Berman who rightly considers schemes like supplying Ukraine and EU with LNG from frack wells to be a grand delusion symptomatic of an empire that has run out of real ideas and economically viable hydrocarbon resources.
    Berman gave this talk in Houston in late February.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ae1fg44l7E



    • Robert Barricklow on March 18, 2015 at 6:38 pm

      Just like he says/the research is not for the public’s benefit; it’s a business. Thus, the news on TV, in print, etc., etc, are businesses; not one iota intended for the public benefit – whatsoever. Education is going towards the business model. Public utilities, U-Name-It, they are all being cross-haired by the private business sector.
      In fact, ironically, the new 21st Century’s ubiquitous

      WANTED Dead or Near Death [Poster reads]
      Public, Enemy # 1



    • marcos toledo on March 18, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      Thanks for the link emlong our oligarchs never had their heads screwed on properly. And their fantasies date back centuries their the kids who never grew up Peter Pans in Neverland.



  3. bdw000 on March 18, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    “And a mere “fix in propaganda” isn’t going to do the trick either.”

    And yet, that seems to be the entirety of U.S. foreign policy.



  4. sjy1969 on March 18, 2015 at 3:56 pm

    This is a US/EU (not UK) show. Let’s not forget that what started the whole thing off was the rejection of the EU agreement by the former leader. I could draw parallels between the Eastward expansion of a German dominated EU and certain historical events in the not too distant past but I’m sure you get the picture.



  5. DownunderET on March 18, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    These articles are really not about the Ukraine, but the US and how it’s international reputation is down around it’s ankles. The madmen in Washington and the Pentagraphone are completely NUTS, and the world sees the US as not the bringer of peace and harmony, but a military complex pushing war all around the world. Well it has to end somewhere and soon wont be too soon. When a country loses it’s way, and the politicians don’t reflect the will of the people, then it’s all over red rover.



  6. basta on March 18, 2015 at 10:30 am

    The Cabal runs into headwinds. Boo-hoo-hoo. Cry me a river.

    Neither Russia nor China have, as yet, been conquered by this millenia-old plague, a criminal mafia of banksters and lackeys; a group of socio-and psychopathic parasites who have swindled, hypnotized, trauma-based-mind-controlled, and generally zombified the Western bloc into pathetic and ignoble submission.

    They crow and strut like roosters on a dung hill and do nothing but pervert, undermine, and destroy all they touch. I am so thoroughly disgusted with our spinelessness in the face of these parasites.



    • Guygrr on March 18, 2015 at 11:08 am

      It doesn’t make sense to me that the US PTB couldn’t foresee this coming from the get go, or at the very least a few months ago. The question is why do they continue with their lies and hypocrisy? It’s as if they are purposely sinking the ship.



      • basta on March 18, 2015 at 2:08 pm

        Exactly! Think upside-down and inside out, down the rabbit hole. Up is down and left is right. Killing is good and destruction is progress.

        The Cabal are psychotic; they are nothing but destroyers and parasites. They thrive on destruction and dissolution; they’re international in scope and long ago (December 23, 1913, to be precise, [merry Christmas!]) took over the US and corrupted its government, so don’t even think in nationalistic terms.

        They are parasites, and by definition parasites do not build anything, they do nothing but weaken and live off their host.



    • Delurking on March 18, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      Great post as usual, Basta. But I would quibble with one point you made:

      “Neither Russia nor China have, as yet, been conquered by this millenia-old plague”

      I believe Russia pretty clearly was conquered by this psychopathic human garbage back in 1917. Communism always has been specifically a Rothschild plan, and communism was specifically imported into Russia by bankrolling Rothschild agents, most notably Jacob Schiff of Kuhn-Loeb. With the Russian Revolution they managed to overthrow the last true Christian monarch on earth, something that means a lot to them since Christianity is the only modern religion specifically at war with their god, Lucifer. This is why Putin’s promotion of Orthodox Christianity in Russia today is one of a number of signs which so strongly suggests that he is openly defying the psychopathic human garbage which presumes to rule us and the rest of the world.

      But is the Putin phenomenon yet another deception a la the same tired, old dialectic or has Putin truly defeated the psychopathic human garbage in Russia? To answer this question we must ascertain whether Russia’s central bank is still Rothschild controlled. There is all kinds of conflicting information online, so I would love it if somebody could offer a definitive answer. However if I had to guess, I would say that Russia’s central bank is still Rothschild controlled, but that Putin has removed much of its leverage by paying off the national debt a decade ago. This is a positive sign which suggests to me that Putin probably is a good guy, which is consistent with the Bilderbergers’ longstanding desire to remove him from office. But if so, I wonder how he could still be alive?

      As for China, who knows what is really going on there? Their central bank under the communist, Mao, almost certainly would have been a Rothschild bank, which means that it probably still is today. And what exactly is the Bush Crime Family’s power in China? They have been at the very center of business-related things in China since Prescott Bush Sr. protege, Richard Nixon, opened the place up, to the point that people may well have to go through the Bush Crime Family if they wish to do business in China. In this case, China may be massive and non-Western, but it would still be ultimately controlled by the very same psychopathic human garbage. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.

      There is so much deception out there. I would love to see some real clarification.



    • ShiningBrow on March 18, 2015 at 10:41 pm

      You’ve never been to China, have you? After living here for the last few years, I can tell you that the people most certainly have been conquered well and truly! May be not by “banksters”, but certainly by “lackeys”. The almighty CCP controls everything, corruption is a HUGE problem everywhere – where everyone seems to think it’s their right to rip off someone somewhere somehow.

      Swindled? The largest companies are “state-owned” – meaning some lackey or relative of a lackey of the great Mao is living it up, driving around with BMWs and Mercedes, while their kids get US and UK university degrees – and in total privacy, cos the media is so controlled that any attempt to report on such things leads to midnight disappearances, prison in some far-flung part of the country, or obviously, just a quick and simple death!

      Becoming successful requires paying off lots of government officials. Even opening up a business means paying people in (I’ve been told by one such owner) paying bribes to 7 different government departments (yeah, they’re incompetent too!), and also paying off the local police regularly to ensure they don’t get nasty with you (again, DIRECT from the mouths of those who run/tried to run a business!)

      The Tiananmen Square massacre isn’t even allowed to be discussed… the wiki page to it is blocked. Hints to it are monitored and deleted – in the news, in social media, on websites under their control.

      Karamay, 20 years ago, a fire took hold during a school performance. The teachers told the kids and parents not to worry, stay in your chairs, and “let the officials go first” (this has become a catchphrase for the discontentment felt towards their government). 324 people, 288 of them children – burned to death! Now, 20 years later, the CCP STILL doesn’t allow the parents to grieve (it’s public policy not to mention such things!!!)

      EVERY SINGLE HOUR OF THE DAY you can turn on the TV and find a movie or drama series about WWII and the Japanese invasion of Nanjing, or the illustrious revolutionary war, or the war against the KMT…

      So, please don’t try to make the Chinese out as some great nation of people who are incredibly free, with a wonderful, caring government… those who come here have those rose-coloured glasses removed quite quickly!



      • sjy1969 on March 19, 2015 at 12:53 pm

        Amen. Too much parroting the party line and not enough critical thinking by commenters on here sometimes.

        Interesting, as that is what the alternative news community is always accusing the “sheeple” of…

        I guess we’re all set in our ways to some extent.



      • Robert Barricklow on March 19, 2015 at 4:31 pm

        Many “citizens” here in the states don’t have a clue to what’s going on under the radar. That living there does give you a foot in the door. so to speak, and another perspective viewpoint; the “seeing” requires more of a DEEP inside Knowledge. So, for many, it comes down to “reading the tea leaves”.
        In the T-Square incident; I see that more as a “color” revolution influenced by “Western” hands.
        But in the Banking arena I see a “long game” dating back many centuries. In the end it comes down to an elitist point of view versus a common peoples’ agenda. In modern terms I equate it to “Open Sources” versus “Closed Sources”; or the rise of a collaborative commons versus an Authoritative Command & Control Hierarchy. I believe the “Chinese” saw the “Western” system moving across the landscape like a prairie fire. Once the fuel was destroyed by the fire of consumption, those prepared would take back the landscape. That the Rothschild[vampires] were invited inside the house; the Chinese saw they’re true reflection, and played their cards with deception within deception, and on & on.
        The end game is the important one.
        It is not without irony in many levels that middle earth couldn’t “win” the middle game{in what “we” think of as the traditional manner; but “they” did, as the end game is “gamed” from the middle.



  7. marcos toledo on March 18, 2015 at 10:00 am

    The CSA-UK have been waging tribal wars against Afro-Eurasia for the last seventy years. As for China they would have to be stone out on opium to get themselves involved in this Teut-Slavic spat. As for Obama he does what he’s told or has he forgotten what happen to the last president who thought he was the real head of state Dealey Plaza anyone.



    • sjy1969 on March 18, 2015 at 4:04 pm

      I think “Teut-Slavic spat” has it about right but you’re not assigning sufficient blame to the expansionist EU. Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but the UK has spent most of the last 70 years leaving/being kicked out of Afro-Eurasia…judging by the immigration figures, Afro-Eurasia is now coming to us.



  8. Robert Barricklow on March 18, 2015 at 8:23 am

    The U.S. and criminal partner Israel, both have policies that can be summed up rather simply: MIGHT MAKES RIGHT!
    That doesn’t win a lot hearts & minds.

    I dare say, even with their own, so-called citizens.
    [I’m reminded of a Wizard of Id comic where the guard tells the King that the prisoners are finally getting wise to the fact that are “political prisoners”. The King then scratches his chin thinking. A short time later the King whispers into the guards ear,
    “Start calling them “citizens”.]



    • Robert Barricklow on March 18, 2015 at 8:37 am

      P.S. It’s now official,
      you can get a degree in “Homeland Security”.
      [I wonder if upon graduation,
      you get a wickedly cool patch/armband
      picturing a Citibank Logo/a modern day swastika armband.]



      • DanaThomas on March 18, 2015 at 10:21 am

        “Heimatssicherheitsforschungen” – how does that sound?



        • Robert Barricklow on March 18, 2015 at 11:19 am

          Yes!
          Perhaps “they” can research & popularize
          the homeland “goosestep”; do a group
          song & dance routine.



    • ShiningBrow on March 18, 2015 at 10:48 pm

      You should look at events in the East China Sea and surrounds.. China has been pushing it’s territorial waters well into other designated (through international treaty) country’s borders. Occasionally shots are fired by the navy (occasionally killing people). Every so often, there are land battles.

      China, too, has this huge MIGHT MAKES RIGHT mentality! The only thing really stopping China from all out war on some of its neighbours is the threat that would come from the US and the rest of the world.



      • Robert Barricklow on March 21, 2015 at 1:15 pm

        China no doubt regards this “area” part of their playground[Monroe Doctrine Playground Rules].
        Not so well known are the “soft power” plays. There’s the, if your using “my currency”[world reserve] –
        your “de Facto” playground’s sovereignty is abdicated.
        Swift has been too swift; and is loosing it.
        My concern; is that the private sector’s manufacturing of credit from “nothing”[alchemy cashing in/out]
        obliterates the public/commons. A deadly parasitic derivative when the nature of private sequencing FED style is drilled down to its essence: destroys life.
        – Professor John McMurtry’s scholarly research,
        on this very subject, is superb
        [up there with Dr. Farrell’s insights]



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