WHILE SWORDS RATTLE OVER THE UKRAINE, RUSSIA AND US TO COOPERATE ON ...

So many people sent me this one that it would be impossible to thank you all by your initials, but I want to extend my thanks because this is a story that raises all sorts of difficult questions. Indeed, almost all of you who sent me this story included some sort of comment about those questions, and for anyone following the story of Russian-American relations lately, one would have to be almost wilfully blind or ignorant not to see them. Here's the story, as reported by RT:

Russia & US agree to build new space station after ISS, work on joint Mars project

Note that Roscosmos head, Igor Komarov, gave a press conference at the center of the Russian space program, the Baikonur Cosmodrome, and stated that not only would the USA and Russia be cooperating on the construction of a new space station when the current one is retired, but even more importantly, that:

"The two agencies will be unifying their standards and systems of manned space programs, according to Komarov. “This is very important to future missions and stations.”
(Emphasis in the original).

NASA head James Bolden, according to the article, not only corroborated this news, but indicated that the area of cooperation and adopting a uniform standard protocols of missions had specific things in mind:

"Roscosmos and NASA are working with each other and other partners on a global roadmap of space exploration, Bolden said. “Our area of cooperation will be Mars. We are discussing how best to use the resources, the finance, we are setting time frames and distributing efforts in order to avoid duplication.”
(Emphasis in the original)

Additionally, the article goes on to note that Bolden indicated the expansion of the private exploration - read commercialization - of space is also on the long-term NASA agenda.

So what are we possibly looking at here, in terms of the High Octane Speculation of the day?

For one thing, the timing of the announcement is peculiar, given the backdrop of recent clashes of geopolitical interests between the USA and Russia over the situation in the Ukraine. Indeed, for many commentators, the clash is set to lead to an inevitable military confrontation between the two countries, and if one listens to the hysteria coming from some American and European commentators, even to a possible nuclear war. Against this backdrop, and the backdrop of ongoing western sanctions against Russia, the head of Roskosmos and NASA announce major plans for long term cooperation in space. Raising the question of why tensions - so bad here on Earth - appear not to be jeopardizing things in space. It is this very point that raises the possibility that there are hidden agendas going on behind the scenes, dealing with space. Indeed, this "cooperation in spite of near hot war conditions of on-Earth rivalry between the two countries, that raises the old Alternative Three scenario once again.

For those who don't know the story or who may have never seen  the Alternative Three "documentary," this was a program on British televsion in the 1970s, conceived as an April Fool's joke, on the ITC television network's East Anglia TV show, "Science Report." The premise was that the intrepid journalists of "Science Report," anxious to explore the very real "brain drain" that was occuring in the United Kingdom throughout the 1970s, ran into a very different, and much more wild scenario. The "documentary" quickly uncovered indications that scientists were either volunteering or being abducted and coerced to participate in a secret space program which quite literally was being conducted on the planet Mars, in an effort to colonize the planet. At one point in the show, however, East Anglia TV interviews a "professor" of international relations, who offers the offhand observation that students of Soviet-American relations had often suspected that there was an element of secret space cooperation between the two superpowers behind and above the normal day-to-day tensions and squabbles.

It is this element that appears to be operative once again, though, unlike in the Alternative Three scenario, the element is very visible and public, suggesting an even more coordinated secret cooperation. After all, if the public element is now that of "unifying their standards and systems of manned space programs," this implies a high and broad and deep level of detailed coordination of engineering, protocols, and so on. The coordination indicates that regardless of very real tensions on Earth, the two countries are cooperating to an extraordinary degree in space, and the article even suggests, by its inclusion of NASA's "space privatization efforts," that Russia is on board with this agenda as well.

I suspect - and here's the high octane speculation part of it - that both countries have long known, and long withheld, sensitive information on what they've found "out there," and that the best way to keep the lid on it, at least for the moment, is an expansion of their public cooperation, and the privatization of space.

See you on the flip side...

 

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

28 Comments

  1. rich overholt on April 6, 2015 at 5:21 pm


  2. rich overholt on April 6, 2015 at 5:18 pm


    • rich overholt on April 7, 2015 at 2:47 am

      Oy.



  3. Frankie Calcutta on April 5, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    It seems like there is still quite a bit of cooperation taking place down here on the surface of the Earth as well. Both nations continue the ruse that they are dependent on scarce “fossil” fuels for their nations’ energy consumption and that the height of transportation technology resides in the combustion engine. (This might be because both nations allowed nazi emigres to control their black projects with carte blanche enabling them to suppress useful technology that would drastically improve human living conditions). There also seems to be quite a bit of cooperation between their large energy companies who only recently decided to acknowledge the western sanctions (after a year) and not drill for oil in the arctic, coincidentally, as the world energy reserves began to surpass market demands. On the other hand, when crude oil prices were above a hundred dollars, they were happy to lend one another drilling platforms and look the other way when sanctions were imposed and wars waged on smaller nations to inhibit their ability to sell more oil on the world market.

    Likewise, both the United States and Russia agree to allow a cabal of rootless cosmopolitans within their borders to control their money printing and interest rate policies as well as allowing these same inhuman nomads to drive their cultural and geopolitical agendas through control of the mass media and corruption of their politicians. They even allow these same troublemakers to migrate back and forth between the two countries from time to time for the purpose of fomenting revolution and subverting governments when necessary. (Not to mention both nation’s turn a blind eye to their respective fifth column’s vile practices of pedophilia, ritual murder, and male genital mutilation). They even allow these parasites and agitators to engineer large-scale trends like the belief or non-belief in god. For a few generations the Russians were deceived into being atheists, while their US counterparts were shamelessly god-fearing. Now that has been reversed and the Russians are god fearing and the US are atheists. What fun the banksters must have.

    Moreover, Russia and the United States also seem to be in agreement that cold wars are good for their massive defense industries (which may be a dictate of the fifth columns in their banking houses or below ground in their black projects world). Included in this are the massive spying operations needed to keep tabs on what the “enemy” is doing. Maybe these space agreements are a convenient way for the nazi emigres hiding in both countries to exchange information and technology as they go about their mutual quest to secretly achieve physical immortality, physical perfection, and the domination of the solar system and beyond. In the meantime, they serve up crumbs to the cold warriors above ground in the form of new weapon technology to further instigate their mad arms race and thereby validating the need for these subterranean nazis and their black projects. How convenient it is to keep these surface Earthlings distracted with plans for war while these clever and determined nazis go about their plans of conquest and supremacy– right under the noses of their unsuspecting benefactors above ground in Russia and the United States and the banking houses of London.

    Yes, the banking houses of London, because crucial to this nazi dream is that the banking cabal is unwary of the nazis’ powerful ambitions and this is achieved by giving the banksters a few crumbs of advanced medicine and technology, like a cancer cure and a couple extra decades onto their life span. Also crucial is that the nazis allow these banking vampires to ply their ancient trade unabated, thereby keeping them content, distracted, arrogant and incautious. By allowing them to profit handsomely off hot and cold wars and fulfilling their gluttonous desire for wealth and blood, the nazis know full well the overconsumption of blood and demonic hedonism will stupefy these cursed beings, and leave them ill equipped to challenge the vengeful nazis when they finally have their coming out party as supermen and begin the exodus to their ancient throne of Mars–leaving the rest of humanity in their bloody wake.

    And one day these same nazis will amusedly look down on a waterless earth and the few remaining thirst-quenched, earth rabble plucky enough to survive the new arid conditions. In turn, these same hapless earthmen will enviously gaze up at the blue planet of Mars and the uber-men above who so mercilessly stole their water and now rule over them and the solar system with such cruelty. How did we so foolishly allow these homicidal nazis to live and work unmolested on their advanced technology all the while secretly plotting the fulfillment of their WWII aspirations and even their cosmic war aspirations? Right before our eyes they tested their spacecraft, buzzing our cities and military installations. They didn’t even hide their terraforming experiments as they polluted our skies with chemtrails and poisoned our food with their GMO seeds one day destined for the fields of Mars. And in the night sky they built their public and private space stations, their launching pads to Mars, along with the weapons needed to protect them and subjugate us. And right before our eyes they began to steal our water, calling it catastrophic droughts as they emptied our aquifers. Eventually entire oceans were stolen, with siphoning technology unwittingly paid for by the citizens of Earth. And in the cruelest twist, our only solace was that a few banksters escaped, these loathsome creatures whom we once despised, but now the unlikely key to our deliverance from this wretched fate. For it is the chameleon banksters who give humanity the best hope of undermining the nazi juggernaut by infiltrating their empire like a cancer and destroying it from within. We are all praying that the banksters can once again do what they do best. And then maybe, one day, they will sell us back some of our water. Something the heartless nazis will not.



    • Sandygirl on April 7, 2015 at 3:30 pm

      How frickin depressing and messed up. Truth in every line. Where are the whistle blowers, don’t they know that they will be living in a depressing and messed up world too?
      Is it better to know all this (stuff) or better to be an ostrich?



      • Joseph P. Farrell on April 8, 2015 at 7:30 pm

        Just a reminder… while I can’t possible review all comments, we DO try to observe courtesy here in the language.



        • Sandygirl on April 16, 2015 at 5:22 pm

          I do apologize Dr. Farrell, my emotions got the better of me. I’m reminded of “1984” which I read 43 years ago as a teenager and I thought, that could never happen here in the U.S. and now I see so many sheep asleep, it was so easy. When I look at the big picture, it’s so insidious but I still want to know what’s up and wish I could do more.



  4. DownunderET on April 4, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    You’d have to be blind not to see what’s going on here between the USA and Russia. What’s going on here is that the booty in space is a lot bigger than oil and gas down here. So what is this booty? gold, platinum, diamonds etc, I don’t think so. Whatever it is, it’s HUGE, and both sides want to be in on it. So this love hate relationship is the cover up of a much larger off world gig, but the RSA and NASA are not calling the shots, the real decision makers are waaaaayyyy above the normal administration managers and space technicians, these decisions come from on “HIGH”, and these dudes “know’ what’s out there and what it means for possession down here. The only thing stopping them is the Secret Space Program, and what that organization has in anti-gravity technology, and they aint givin it up too soon.



    • Blue Dragon Lord on April 5, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      As I have the highest security clearance (38) for those that know such things. As the good Dr Farrell by looking at my email address can verify perhaps funny when you think about it right, secrets in plain sight. But the point is any tech that has been either back engineered or given by their aliens alliance smelly guys is actually second rate stuff they had a better offer from nice aliens who still have your best interests at heart as they are family.

      Wishing for the survival of humans and not wanting to have bad thinking people wondering about up there I can safely say no worries. I folks do not pay any attention to those who do channeling with aliens as it really is all malarky or codswallop rubbish bogus fake wishful thinking and plain wrong okay so really be of good heart, that is way too much information and as a crank no one ever listens to the truth anyway so I am safe. Nice aliens can speak for themselves without go betweens apart from being thought as myths and legend Truth is the better path like a whisper on the wind the pure of heart can hear just pay attention easy.



  5. Freefall on April 4, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    I have never been able to make sense of this issue .. It’s akin to me running around town slandering my neighbour to all and sundry .. then after dark .. inviting them over for a roast dinner .. followed by popcorn and a movie .. I remind people constantly that ALL these nations (USA.. China .. Russia.. etc) have bases stationed at the South Pole .. You never heard of any shoot outs in Antarctica .. they all seem to get on just fine .. Seems that there are 3 places in our Solar System where one can escape the warring overlords .. The ISS .. Switzerland and the South Pole .. Baffling indeed !!



  6. moxie on April 4, 2015 at 9:33 am

    There seems to be a faction in NASA that is being allowed to cooperate with Roskosmos. I don’t see why not, since Russia seems willing to be the big person between them. Unlike the one we got here, the Russians are willing to showcase some of their advanced capabilities in flight and probably in space. So why won’t the US/NASA take advantage of that. And I’m also reminded of the Medvedev statements and if you put that alongside the when-you-see-it type of photos of Mars (posted without them commenting on it), the two could be really up to something.



  7. marcos toledo on April 4, 2015 at 8:45 am

    I just hope the new space station looks like the wheel. All our vision of a space station from science fiction stories-novels and movies-television not the erector set we have now circling the Earth now. And what does Roscomos-NASA know especially since NASA is beholding handmaiden to the US Military not a civilian space agency it passes itself off as. and justawhoaman who mirror my fears that our elites in the West at least intend to turn the planet into Mad Max World or as I put it a planetary gladiatorial arena with rest of us as the gladiators for their twisted enjoyment.



    • Blue Dragon Lord on April 5, 2015 at 1:09 pm

      Ezekiel wheel yes that would be nice and the turning gives artiicial gravity so cool to have your head in the clouds but still have your feet on the ground agree much better way to be in space.



  8. Robert Barricklow on April 4, 2015 at 8:38 am

    The mainstream media has so engendered discontinuities that we are no longer struck dumb by them: a newscaster has just reported that nuclear war is inevitable and goes on to say that he’ll be right back after a word from Burger King.
    So is it any wonder the culture is “dumbed down” ?
    The ISO Esperanto[EPO] of space is the dialect of “infrastructure speak” and this is geared to space in several folds[outer & inner]. The reason of cooperation is simply keeping “your” enemy close.



    • Robert Barricklow on April 4, 2015 at 9:34 am

      And to counter the discontinuity press:

      http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/246541-episode-740-max-keiser/

      Engenders a more than usual “thought provoking episode”…
      this time around.



      • DanaThomas on April 4, 2015 at 9:48 am

        Max is getting better now that he has got over his “bitcoin fixation”!



        • Robert Barricklow on April 4, 2015 at 12:34 pm

          He is passionate when it comes “GIABO”: The Global Insurrection Against Bankster Occupation.
          Bitcoin is synonymous the its protocol platform, which is a major weapon against centralization. I think he knows of The Breakaway Civilization conceptually, but stays “on message” to hammer away at the Centralized Banster’s worldwide wall/coils that encloses/constricts the global economy. He wants to break those economic chains BIG TIME!
          Today’s episode was better. And Zero Hedge was making some thought provoking observations. Max inferred that Zero got the “concept” from Max’s tweets on that very subject. He believe he does think he’s a cutting-edge that Zero Hedge employs in their writings. And who knows, there may be truth in his connecting those Zero dots.
          I like the nomenclature of “Zero Hedge”, in that Hedges are Walls. Thus, No Enclosures: Open Systems, Open Sources, The Commons.



    • Sandygirl on April 4, 2015 at 8:38 pm

      My acronym for mainstream media, WMD, Weapons of Mass Deception.



      • Blue Dragon Lord on April 5, 2015 at 1:16 pm

        well put but the old saying ‘you can some of the people some of the time but not all the people all o the time’ I do think that hold true the good people who comment or just read this blog site for example have hope and free thought to make a diferrence and from what i see never ive up or give in.



      • Robert Barricklow on April 5, 2015 at 4:25 pm

        Yes Sandygirl,
        and these WMDs create an information environment
        which might rightly be called trivial pursuit.



        • Sandygirl on April 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm

          Yes, Thank you Blue as i just about went to that dark place again
          RB, “trivial” is in the eye of the beholder as friends/family ask me, why are you always talking crazy talk.



          • Robert Barricklow on April 7, 2015 at 4:40 pm

            Very true Sandygirl.
            What Huxley teaches us in an age of advanced technology is that spiritual devastation is more likely to come from a smiling face. In such an Huxley world – BIG Brother does not watch us, by his choice. We watch him, by “our” choice.



  9. justawhoaman on April 4, 2015 at 7:25 am

    Here is my wildA$$ speculation, no octane to it: Since the Americans and Russians have cooperated on numerous “scientific” projects here on earth while we were supposed to be mortal enemies (e.g. ocean current studies that would enable both Navies to detect submarines), it is entirely possible that the gnashing of fangs and rattling of sabres is one more act of theatre to enrich the military industrial complex. (We seem to share weaponry if not both buy it from Germany). This keeps the little people all distracted worrying about WWIII and nuclear holocaust (I bet it sells bunkers to families like it did in the 1960’s only now there is more money for such purchases), allows testosterone motivated individuals to step in front of the camera. In your latest interview with Catherine Austin Fitts, you both agreed that war is an essential part of the world economy. This means we have always been partners in the breakaway universe but can’t let the slaves, the ones we send into battle, know about it.

    I may be way off base, but I bet I am closer to “ground zero” than I would like to be.



    • Aridzonan_13 on April 4, 2015 at 9:07 am

      Bravo, this smacks of a WWF scenario amongst the ruling classes. Where they cooperate to line their own pockets at our detriment. And or there is a Russian Break-Away contingent that are separating themselves from the terrestrial element of society at a rapid rate. Exposure of the Break-Away element and their motives are imperative. Otherwise, we’ll continue to walk around with our eyes wide open in the dark within the reality the PTB have foisted upon us. Thank you Dr. Farrell for a ray of light into this dark place.



    • eric on April 4, 2015 at 5:06 pm

      Like the mafia bosses meeting with each other while they fight it out on the streets



    • moxie on April 4, 2015 at 11:07 pm

      “war is an essential part of the world economy”
      Doubtless, one has to always be ready for war, but if one has this mentality of war being necessary for an economy, it’s exactly the kind of thinking the psychopaths have who are creating the mess right now, and in the past. If anything, the wars have largely benefited the breakaway economy, not the public. What is happening is that this civilization has increased its destructive capabilities while the means to productivity are impeded . I wouldn’t be surprised if this area of this universe is really quarantined. Indeed, we have a long way to go, but the road may be shortened for us.



      • Sandygirl on April 5, 2015 at 9:08 am

        The Rockefellers have funded both sides of any war/conflict going way back in time and made money and power either way. They often had more secret information from both sides than the rulers. It’s their legacy, they are control freaks but now there’s so many conflicts and different wars going on that they can’t keep up.



  10. DanaThomas on April 4, 2015 at 6:51 am

    Maybe they are just letting the Neocons & Co. – little more than an armaments lobby – play in their sandbox or if you wish in a 2-dimensional game of “Diplomacy”. In the meantime, the real game is under way on a “board” with 3+ dimensions.



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