Friday night, June 19, 2015, and Saturday morning June 20, 2015, I appeared on the American overnight show, Coast to Coast AM, with host George Noory and his guest, well-known space anomaly researcher Richard C. Hoagland. I must confess that it was a last-minute decision on Coast's part, but perhaps a brief explanation of the circumstances will illuminate why I'm writing this blog today, for I'm writing to clarify some remarks I made which I don't think that many may have "understood," with the exception of Mr. Hoagland, who understood immediately.

My appearance was a very last minute decision on the part of Mr. Noory and the Coast production staff, as I had just earlier that day recorded and posted my comments on the story that appeared on the Russian news service Isvestia, by Vladimir Markin, that Russia wants a full investigation of what happened to the lost Apollo "artefacts", and an explanation of why NASA (allegedly) destroyed some archival footage of the Moon landings, and that some of the lunar rocks cannot be found. By implication, Russia also wants to know where they are now.Very quickly into the show it became apparent that Mr. Hoagland's views on the story were almost exactly my own, and hence my appearance during the show's final hour and a half.

So what are the remarks that need clarification? I made two basic observations during the show, and these are the observations I want to reinforce here:

  1. First, I pointed out that President Putin's senior eonomic advisor, Mr. Sergei Glazyev, had stated last year(with respect to the crisis in the Ukraine), that Moscow's fight was not with the Nazis in Kiev, but with the Nazis in Washington SC. When I stated this, Mr. Hoagld became animated because he appreciated the deep significance. But for those who need a reminder, it is his hypothesis, along with many other researchers including Linda Hunt, and yours truly, that NASA became the home to a faction of Nazis(quite literally) who remained not only infuential but to a degree "independent" within that organization (along with, in Mr. Hoagland's model, two other factions, which he calls the "Masons" and the "Magicians.") Additionally, we all know the history of the Faustian bargain American intelligence made with the Nazi military intelligence organization Fremde Heere Ost as World War Two drew to a close. My point in raising Mr. Glazyev's comment was therefore to set the recent Russian call for an investigation into the Apollo into a much wider and longer historical and geopolitical context. Thus, my remark wa meant to highlight that Russian calls for an Apollo investigation might thus be construed as one element in what Russia perceives to be a war with the Nazis in Washington, a war that would include America's space and intelligence communities by dint of the historical context and reasoning.
  2. I also pointed out, in a brief remark toward the end of the show, that there is yet another possible context in which the Russian calls for an Apollo investigation should be viewed, and that is the financial one. I mentioned, briefly, my hypothesis that a hidden system of finance was put into place in the year 1947 by President Truman, to fund not only covert operations against the Soviet Communist bloc, but also, and more importantly, to fund a long term black research project or projects of technological development. This of  course is the hypothesis I advanced in Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations and again at the San Mateo Secret Space Program conference last year. Thus, the Russian call for an investigation of Apollo by implication could potentially spill over into an exposure of this hidden financial system, developed in part to research exotic space technologies. Coming as it does during a time that Russia and China are decoupling from the dollar and building parallel international financial institutions and clearing, the calls for an Apollo investigation could potenitally uncover aspects of this system.

These are the broader geopolitical and historical contexts in which I think the story must be viewed, for Apollo itself occurred within those contexts and was a part of them. I share the idea that Mr. Markin's article could not have appeared without some sort of higher government approval, and thus I suspect that this is a story that, have been once broached, will be difficult for the Russian government to retreat from. What really remains to be seen is what, if any, investigation will be undertaken, and what it may uncover.

See you on the flip side...

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. emlong on June 25, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    A hall of mirrors of such an extent as you describe will likely never be figured out, and a strong case could be made that Kubrick was just inserting impenetrable mysteries and ruses into his work in order to entertain and beguile people prone to enswathing iconic artists within a deep mystique. If he was truly a devotee of classical alchemy then he would automatically be a devotee of ambiguity and enigma.
    An artist who revels in playing “catch me if you can” controls the rules of the game to such an extent that he will never be caught.

    There’s a pretty good argument to be made as well that Weidner is himself part of a tendentious myth-making apparatus.

    • OrigensChild on June 30, 2015 at 2:18 pm

      Kubrick is keenly aware of this potential-and revels in our exercise of it. Weidner does appear to be perpetuating a mythology for reasons that cannot be good. Though cited here, there are times when I wonder about Richard Hoagland’s past statements on many matters. For the sake of fair play, like all pieces on a chess board, there are times when it would appear each of them are being played. Then again, so are we all!

  2. emlong on June 24, 2015 at 4:52 pm


    Jay Weidner’s analysis of Kubrick’s “The Shining” convinced me that Kubrick was saying the first landing was studio faked (by himself and under the desperate exigencies of “being first”) while the rest were not. Th real question for me now is whether or not Kubrick was just pulling our leg. I don’t think there is any doubt that he was inserting obvious symbolism and analogy into “The Shining.”

    • OrigensChild on June 25, 2015 at 12:28 pm

      In Dark Mission, pg 243, Hoagland says, “NASA carefully planned, from the beginning, to give those folks a ‘conspiracy,’ alright, but a fake conspiracy to cover up the real one.” I’ve seen Jay’s films also, and have followed his version of the Kubrick story for a couple of years now also, and find that story intriguing also. Would NASA hire Kubrick to stage a production to bolster this story and lead him to believe it was the real thing? I don’t see why they wouldn’t.

      I am 99.999% sure someone went to the moon and recovered something. The rest of the world seems to agree–and the Russians are tipping their hat toward the same opinion.

      In my mind, the question is whether the public story (with the broadcast of that mission) and the actual events are the same story. We do not know whether the technologies claimed to be in use were the technologies that were actually used. We were given a huge advertisement for the expenditure of millions of 1960 dollars for a program with public and private agendas. (For this discussion I am thinking of the USA as a corporation with compartmentalized agendas, too.) In this regard I can see some merit in the Kubrick story as stage management where two separate events–one public and one deeply black and hidden–are tightly coupled with multiple layers of technology to confuse the two.

      As a technological component, an effective psyop would have considered Kubrick’s impulse to spill the beans. They would’ve counted on it! Kubrick may have even been vaguely aware of it, too, if by the two twins he mean something very different than what Weidner speculated. Maybe Kubrick was telling us this was a psyop the whole time. I have often wondered if Kubrick was telling us of two space programs and focusing on the one he personally knew about–and his role in it.

  3. DownunderET on June 22, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    I’m a fence sitter on the moon missions. BUT, I am very interested in the esoteric side of these space flights as outlined in Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Barra’ book “Dark Mission”. The fact that NASA employed one Dr. Farouk El Baz, an Egyptian archeologist who told NASA “WHERE” TO LAND ON THE MOON, has all the hallmarks of an ancient connection between the Earth and the Moon. The Russians, in my opinion are asking,(cough cough), the Americans to come clean on the issue if they went or not. It is my opinion that the Russians DO know what went on, and are letting NASA know that they know. This isn’t a game of chess, it’s more like Russian roulette, and the jig is up if there’s more than one bullet in the chamber of truths.

  4. basta on June 22, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    Essentially, this “modest proposal” is along the lines of, “If you don’t have anything to hide, then you certainly wouldn’t mind if we have a look around.” Of course Never A Straight Answer has more to hide than the day is long, and the Russians know this.

    Again, I’m an Apollo agnostic, leaning 2/3 towards it didn’t happen, but willing to entertain the scenario that there was hidden antigravity tech at work that got them there — and also go them off the moon, because that cartoon pop-the-cork lift-off of the upper portion of the LEM is even more difficult to swallow than its absurdly craterless and noiseless landing (we have the recordings of Armstrong and Aldrin as Eagle is “landing” and they are sitting literally 3 feet on top of the main thruster yet there isn’te even the slightest interference with their communications with Houston Control as they “land.” — We got us a Whopper-Doozey of a problem here, folks!

    Be that as it may, this innocent-enough-sounding proposal is a shot across the bow and one can assume that Russia will work from 1969 forward to the present day, questioning the USA’s version of history all along the way.

  5. Aridzonan_13 on June 22, 2015 at 10:34 am

    The Ruskies must be sensing weakness for them to make such an accusation. They’ve played defensive, patient chess for years. Now, they appear to be moving toward an offensive game posture. The AngloSphere has a lot of skeletons. So, many so, that they are going to need a closet to contain them all. If Russia can expose Off World artifacts on the moon, it would be a master stroke. The dominoes would start to fall.

    • Aridzonan_13 on June 22, 2015 at 10:35 am

      “they are going to need a larger closet to contain them all.”

  6. Konsti on June 22, 2015 at 9:39 am

    One analyst from Russia claims that there are living around 80 million Germans in USA. Keeping their own culturе, speaking German with each other. Could anyone comment on this please?

    • Delurking on June 22, 2015 at 10:14 am

      Unless almost all of these 80 million have flooded in in just the past few years this is extremely hard to believe. There might be 80 million Americans with German names, but very few of them speak German and know little or nothing about German culture, their ancestors having mostly come maybe 150-350 years ago. The Pennsylvania Dutch speak a German dialect and keep their own culture, but I doubt you are talking about even 1 million there.

      Is there a link to this analyst’s report with further details?

      • Konsti on June 22, 2015 at 10:55 am

        I know that Germans always have been coming in USA. But this analyst stated very confidently that 80 millions speak German, some of them live very compactly in their own communities.
        This was said on a private lecture and I didn’t get a chance to specify. But this information is definitely corresponding with Dr. Farrell’s research about nazi international.

        • Delurking on June 22, 2015 at 11:15 am

          Per Wikipedia, according to the 2000 Census, about 1.5 million Americans speak German at home.


          Of course, the people you are talking about would presumably be under the radar and not recorded accurately if at all. I wish there were a way you could contact this analyst.

          • Konsti on June 22, 2015 at 12:19 pm

            I don’t think he’s gonna answer how this information got to him. That’s why I wrote here. It’s hard to know exactly, even if you personally travel all over United States. But it does not sound as a total lie, cause there were always problems for Germans to realize their skills and activity within German state. And they left home in every possible direction. During 18-19 centuries approximately 12 million Germans moved to Russia. Plus ww1 and ww2 pushed them to move abroad if we speak about 20th century. I would believe if it would have been said about 80 million all across North and South America. Anyway it’s interesting to know opinions from USA.

          • Delurking on June 22, 2015 at 1:22 pm

            Konsti, certainly a lot of German women married American servicemen stationed in Germany in the post-war period. But I don’t think that total approached anywhere near 80 million. For this to be true, roughly 1 in 4 Americans today would have to be German-speaking and following German culture, which the census data emphatically denies. If somehow this 80 million is not being counted, then the fact remains that roughly 1 in 5 Americans encountered today would be German-speaking and following German culture, which seems patently absurd.

            Perhaps 80 million Germans have left Germany in the post-war period, but I do not believe anywhere close to that number came to the US. Perhaps 80 million came to the Americas alone, but I doubt it. In any case, the overwhelming majority of such an 80 million undoubtedly went to South America. I just do not think anywhere close to that number could have come to the US, even if somehow they are not being counted in the census. They would have to be hiding underground where no one could see them.

    • kitona on June 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      80 million Germans in the United States, all secretly speaking German with each other? I’m pretty skeptical of everything these days and if some said that the sky was green I’m even willing to pause and consider that assault on my assumed knowledge.

      Having said that, I am skeptical of the 80 million German speakers in the USA. I was raised in the American Midwest with a lot of German heritage in the region but even though many of those people had German heritage, few of them spoke anything other basic “Danke & Guten Tag” touristy German. Yeah, maybe I have been duped but I did study German for two years at the public school and I hardly had the impression that anybody had a serious interest in the culture.

      Also, many of the German immigrants in the US pre-date WWII (even WWI) and often were modest middle/working class types that settled in small farming communities. Hardly a sophisticated class elite Nazi secretly working within international circles. If the influx of German immigrants was closer in timeline to WWII then if would be more believable but, as is, I’m not buying it.

      Now if you told me that there were 80 million Nazi in Argentina…

      • Konsti on June 24, 2015 at 12:31 am

        Thank you for your comment. My knowledge and understanding of German immigration are the same.

    • Reno on June 25, 2015 at 6:39 am

      I think the Russian analyst meant Mexicans.

  7. marcos toledo on June 22, 2015 at 9:19 am

    The problem is President Obama is the latest front for the CSA-NAZI oligarchs that run this murderous empire. Tesla technology like that of others who names are unknown has been suppress since the last decades of the nineteenth and early decades of the twentieth century. Then there is the Ben Rich rule sixty year rule of technological development hidden from the people who paid for it and are denied knowledge or access to use it for the benefit of all of us.

  8. Robert Barricklow on June 22, 2015 at 9:00 am

    There is no doubt that the Nazi science was the primary reason for the early “success” of the moon landing. There’s the TV side; then there’s the “real” mission side that’s been kept secret.
    We The People aren’t getting any truths whatsoever. And now with the coming passage of TPP, both Europe & the USA will be officially kept in the dark:
    “Sentence First. Verdict Afterwards”.

  9. loisg on June 22, 2015 at 8:43 am

    I agree with both Dr. Farrell and Lost on this one, and am wondering if this is not just to discover the technology behind the lunar landing, but an attempt to flesh out just what the US was working with in a broader scale, to see what direction the US may have taken since then and where they may be presently.
    I remember Russia calling for President Obama to have the US release their UFO files, which he didn’t do. Perhaps that also would have released information regarding US technological abilities that he didn’t want to disclose. If so, then I’m sure there will be no more cooperation with this new inquiry. After all, the president gets briefed by these same CIA and intelligence goons that are running the breakaway group.

  10. Lost on June 22, 2015 at 5:39 am

    Perhaps the Russians, who’d already know this point, are saying explicitly:

    “Explain thoroughly how the LEM landed on the Moon without disturbing the surface dust.”

    That event alone, even if accomplished with normal rockets, portends a revolution in physics and technology.

    The fact that rockets work in a vacuum is always explained away as “Newton said there has to be an equal and opposite reaction”, but “reaction” of what is the mystery, and simple “energy” doesn’t really suffice as an answer.

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