NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM JULY 9, 2015
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There's more Nazis in the Bushes... This article about the "new" alliance between Kiev's (Neo-) Nazis and Chechnya's Islamic terrorists repeats a well-known pattern:
Ukraine Merges Nazis and Islamists
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Finally someone gets it,the relationship with the Islamic terrorists goes back to Keizer billy -boy shijzer. It was the keizer,banished to holland aftwer the war, that brought over admiral Donantz to help build and design the Type 7 submarine prototypes,and this was in 1923 in violation of the treaty of versaille for which he and his host/sponser prince Hendrik ,husband of dutch Queen Willimena would have been hung if caught. Remember Hitler was still chasing homo’s in jail while all this cloak and dagger stuff was going on in holland. The royal houses were planning WWII long before any crooked politician got the idea,and even behind the great banking scandals that helped form the military industrial state of germany,the royals were controlling the rothschild,warburg,Jp Morgan and rockafeller puppets. Royalty can’t get busted in their own kingdom if they choose to enforce their constitution’s,kings another word for dictator legally speaking,this is one of the reasons 70,000 nazi war criminals were pardoned after the war…..to avoid evidence being presented at the ensuing trials.Rothschild empire is said to be worth over 100 trillion dollars and that banking family only handles the royal fortunes of europe and look at the money they’ve made just handling the royal fortunes. The royals have been robbing and stealing for centuries and never paid taxes or got thrown in jail for it so they just kept on doing it for hundreds of years. You can’t even begin to imagine how much money they got,I’ll bet even some of the royals don’t even know their own actual wealth.
The latest article from F. William Engdahl drills down the geopolitical issues that are shaping Today’s world. It certainly ties in with some of Dr. Farrell’s analyses; although, Dr. Farrell’s approach generally goes much deeper into the past/reason to align the present, through his personalized analyses prism{this is my perception: I/m not trying to assert it as the Dr’s own viewpoint].
http://williamengdahl.com/
“Mackinder Reincarnates”
Also of note is his July 13th article,
“Why American Presidents Are So Rotten”
http://williamengdahl.com/
[again corresponds to some of the views expressed at this site]
One more thought on this subject. It seems to me that blaming the Zionists generally (or worse, The Jews) smacks of stereotypical right-wing conspiracy THEORY and discredits our community. I’m open and maybe even prone to accept some outlandish conspiracies but I’ve been hearing more and more of this from some sites (that shall go nameless). I don’t buy it.
Dear Jay,
Masterful post, of its kind. However, before you take your victory lap I believe — since much of its “content” is directed to my own posts — that it bears some examination.
When anyone exhibits such sweeping presumption as to claim guardianship of the values and acceptable — and unacceptable — topics of “our community,” I am skeptical of said claims. I didn’t know that this community had gatekeepers, and surely they are not self-appointed.
You have salted your post with a frankly embarrassing string of the worst sort of ad hominens and tired shock-them-into-silence catchphrases: the dreaded epithet of “right-wing,” appended to the CIA’s old COINTELPRO canard of “conspiracy theory.” You top it off with the Maraschino cherry of writing “theory” in all-caps, and won’t leave it there but then double-down by tossing in George “Either-you-are-with-us-or-against-us” W’s phrase of not tolerating “outlandish conspiracy theories.”
Honestly, if any post here is not worthy of this community, then surely it is this one.
There is not an iota of actual proof for a slew of the most tired sort of shut-’em-down accusations, which are meant to confound two completely separate issues and leverage the one (Delurking’s deeply unfortunate accusations) to annul the content of the other (the role of Jews and Zionists in the Ukraine (which from all I’ve studied is in truth a slam dunk, for which I’ve already offered abundant proof and can bring to the table much more if you’d actually like to civilly debate the topic) and more broadly the question of the “untouchable” status of the Jews and Zionists in alternative research. Everyone is afraid to go there. Why?
I don’t “blame” Joseph at all for anything here; he has a keen intellect, and his own areas of expertise and his own point-of-view — and I have mine. I respect this and learn a great deal from him, and I also treasure this forum as a place where one can indeed speak their mind — civilly, and also backed up with proofs. That a topic is controversial should not preclude it from discussion, particularly one obviously so profound and so pertinent and so much in need of proper explication.
So please, leave the triumphalism for some other forum, and the tired slurs. Bring something real to the table, worthy of all our intellects, and let’s discuss this without the derogation. Thanks.
Point taken, basta. It’s actually more directed at some of the swill I’ve been hearing and seeing on red ice that I find unnerving. I didn’t read every post here in its entirety so I am guilty of cherry picking myself.
Couldn’t have said it better myself basta. Jay Trout really?
I admit. A d**khead post. Not one of my better moments. I did that at midnight while nursing a non-related resentment. My apologies.
Perhaps the jailer[holding the key] and the prisoner[whose been locked away for God know how long] are but one in the same?
The illusion of the good guy? Was just that; an illusion.
I mean, it happens all the time; at the tip of the pyramid,
both the overworld and underworld, are but one in the same.
“They ” never were, or have been caged.
Another enigma in a number of questions that go unanswered.
Max Keiser Report 781 is gone.
Question on goggle/yahoo go unanswered.
Questions on rt keiser site go unanswered.
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My comment above was a reply to the predominant discussion in the above comments more than to the actual News and Views commentary by Dr. Farrell.
Dr. Farrell, I just listened to the latest interview of Engdahl at
http://williamengdahl.com/
“Out Of The Bag Radio”. In it[Part 2/at approx. two thirds of the way in] he discusses his new book in German/The Lost Hegemon: Whom the Gods Would Destroy; about the use of, and creation of radical jihadist in the 1920s. First by British intelligence, then by the U.S. He goes on to follow there operative uses through to the fall of Soviet Russia, the civil war in Bosnia, and Osama BinDeadAgin, to recent history.
It appears like your both following, relatively the same scent, in your searching out some prescient truths in relationship to todays unfolding strategic/tactical geopolitical moves. He had another, also just out and in German, but the interviewer lost that thread of the dialogue.
I’m ordering your book as soon as it’s available for shipping from Amazon{Can’t wait!]
Just finished the entire interview which covers Part 3 in its entirety. Even talking of David Rockefeller’s 19th heart transplant. Engdahl’s theme is reflected in his new & emerging writing style which reflects a different musicality that resonates the qualities of mankind in contrast to the laughable, ridiculousness conceit of the global ruling oligarchy. His writing emphasizes the sovereignty of mankind’s humanity & noble character; not present in our current so-called globalized ruling elite.
Looks like F. William Engdahl is correct when he says that the current Greek government is being controlled by the Greek oligarchs[wolves in sheep’s clothing].
As Ellen Brown writes in her new article “Guerilla Warfare Against Hegemonic Power”, there are several easy solutions:
http://ellenbrown.com/
Joseph. I have been a member since day one but rarely comment on your website.
I have heard you speak about the Nazi’s and the Muslim brotherhood connection in the past, BUT I don’t believe you have ever mentioned the British involvement in the middle east. At that time they were running Turkey, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Persia to name just a few. Britain has always been the aggressor not Germany. How many countries has Britain invaded in it’s long glorious history compared to Germany.
You can talk all you want about the Nazi’s running the show behind the scenes but I just don’t see it. What I do see with my OWN eyes is the
newspapers, advertising, publishing, social media, television networks, film studios, sports ownership, gambling, brothels, music and porn industries, financial institutions being predominately owned and run by the same ‘names’. Now if you own these institutions you control the peoples thoughts and minds.
Nothing new here, many people have been pointing this out since WWI. Start with Ezra Pound, Eustace Mullins, Nesta Webster and Benjamin Freedman, personally I don’t trust any source written after 1945, because they have controlled most of it since that time.
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise”. Voltaire
Last I heard you can’t go to prison for questioning the Nazi parties activities, hmmm.
Sorry for my rant, I have kept quite for far too long.
Aldo, for an example of a clear disinfo agent who focuses on the Nazis only in order to distract people’s attention away from where they should be looking, you need look no further than to Peter Levenda who fully outed himself as such within the first 50 pages of his latest book, _The Hitler Legacy_. However I do not believe that one can place Dr. Farrell in the same category, fortunately. He has, after all, written about “Yahweh the Two-Faced God” and made the case for a nefarious linkage between Zionism and Dispensationalism. And he has repeatedly highlighted Mackinder in his writings so he is fully aware that it has been consistent English policy since German unification a century and a half ago to flout German growth and expansion. Yes, Dr. Farrell could say more about that of which you speak, and I too wish he would, but I believe we both can take solace in the fact that he has yet to go the full-blown Levenda route, and thank God for that.
To infer that Peter Levenda or Joseph Farrell are disinfo agents begs an objection.
Both these people heavily research and notate everything they put to paper.
I fail to understand how you could be a member of this site for this long and accuse Joseph of anything like that.
Regarding the Jews, Joseph has suggested books to read for a better understanding of this issue. One was about the Transfer Agreement and another was IBM’s connection to the holocaust. Both are written by Jews who understood the situation well.
I would buy those books if I were you and study them for yourself. This subject has always interested me and I have added them to my library.
Both these books are written by Jews. If I were Joseph I would prefer Jews to speak for themselves on this subject, and I have no problem with that.
However, the more I have read about the Nazi connection, and the work of Gladio, I believe that any Zionists who would aspire to power would definitely, as Robert Barricklow suggests, always be watching their backs.
An article about the Berlin-Baghdad Railway, Deutsche Bank and the proposed sphere of Germanic influence with map. Some policy thinking hasn’t changed much in the past 100 years…
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/de-berlin-baghdad.htm
This is looking like the Crusades disaster gone planetary. Just wondering what religion the psychopaths who put the Georgia Guides Stones intend to use to misrule the World Islam for psychos perhaps. If they had fun with their version of Christianity pillaging and murdering Worldwide it going to be a blast ruling the World with their version of Barbarian Islam.
“Just wondering what religion the psychopaths who put the Georgia Guides Stones intend to use to misrule the World”
Luciferianism, as you probably know already. Just consider it more broadly as Masonic Religion through Albert Pike to Madame Blavatsky and Alice Bailey. When you get to the present day, it masquerades as New Age nonsense about “Ascended Masters” and the like. It is claimed to “fulfill” all world religions as you would expect from people who would put forth ecumenical BS like the World Council of Churches with quite obviously that specific goal in mind. So in the end we are to worship Lucifer (who will be claimed to have been “misunderstood” through the millennia) as we quite possibly subject ourselves to his antichrist who may well identify himself as the “World Teacher.”
“World Islam for psychos perhaps”
Somehow I do not think that the average Muslim lives up to the stereotype. I’ve certainly never been threatened or harmed by one, and the average Muslim does not have a pot to piss in anyway so what damage could he do?
On the other hand, Zionism (and all that it entails) is quite obviously a much more dangerous movement worldwide as a product of *Extreme* Judaism (not shared by most Jews), but enabled mainly by masses of evangelical Christian dupes. In the end, it is simply satanism, which leads us back to Lucifer and the soon-to-be world religion described above.
The problem Delurking if you were Lucifer would you trust these villains or would you watching your back in fear of you life.
I don’t think Lucifer can be killed (by man) so I am not sure that he is worried. In fact I believe he revels in, and indeed draws his power from, such unrestrained human passions.
This is what makes the Gnostics so interesting; they had these guys’ number and so were the first major victims on the long march to where we find ourselves today.
The Nag Hammadi cache being discovered in 1945 — in Egypt, given up from Mother Earth — is an extraordinary event and you can be sure Lucifer and his minions were and are furious.
“This is what makes the Gnostics so interesting;”
I agree Basta. Check out John Lamb Nash if you haven’t already:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcloCMs3Uek
Well put. Basta used the term insidious in describing the theatrical farce of “white privilege” above. Insidious is the word. The racial aspect is only a small part of something much more grand in scope and vision. Just recently I was forwarded an email containing an article profiling a typical American “Joe Sixpack” contending that all Muslims should be made to renounce their faith or face imprisonment or execution, and he actually stated that he was not interested in critically examining the question. It was enough for him to know that Judge Jeanine Pirro and MSNBC told him Muslims were all machete wielding psychopathic zealots. This is not isolated, this perspective is quite typical of the average American. This is nothing short of monstrous.
In the same way the false flag aliens or asteroids will be used in the political sphere to effect one world governance, so will the bugaboo of “Islam” be used in the religious sphere to destroy the last genuine resistance to what you have referred to as Luciferianism or the “Age of Aquarius”. What William Cooper called the one world socialist state. Orthodox Judaism was supplanted by the British incubated Zionists, and Catholicism has been made a liberal laughing stock through the pedophilia stories. The final campaign now is being waged against orthodox Islam, and I have speculated that the ISIS cult may be the vehicle by which this one world synthetic religion may be introduced.
I myself believe I have clearly seen a distinct, extended manipulation of the alternative research community, directing otherwise honest people into areas of research that will yield manufactured conclusions by those who have an interest in pushing certain ideas. Those who have been too independent in their research or too unwilling to accept these manufactured conclusions have walked into a bullet among other accidents (eg William Cooper).
In any event, ‘mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur’.
Button, great post. I just wanted to pick up on the Catholic Church aspect here:
“and Catholicism has been made a liberal laughing stock through the pedophilia stories.”
Certainly, but I believe there is far more to say about the Roman Catholic Church (and I will only say very little right now). If you are suggesting that the Roman Catholic Church is a force for good which has been recently neutered through public ridicule, I would have to disagree. I believe you see a fight going on within the Roman Catholic Church over centuries, and I further believe that you see the the final capitulation to the dark side with Vatican II. Just two quick points to put this in perspective:
1) The Vatican Bank is a Rothschild bank, and has been so since some point in the 1800s.
2) A bunch of rabbis recently complained to Benedict XVI about certain prayers which had been in use by the RCC for something like 1500 years. Rather than properly ignore the rabbis as their criticism of Christianity is the height of bad taste, B16 promptly changed those 1500+ year old prayers to appease those unbelievably rude and obnoxious rabbis.
So who controls whom? I say it is obvious. Any remaining good left within the Roman Catholic Church over recent centuries was finally snuffed out with Vatican II. The recent ridicule of the RCC, while fully deserved for their blatant inaction regarding incomparably sick stuff, was actually superfluous. And as a fitting ending, I should point out that the rite of exorcism was flagrantly neutered in accordance with the demands of Vatican II just about 15 years ago under JPII. The smoke of satan has indeed entered the Church. The RCC is now fully NWO-compliant.
Delurking,
I completely agree with you. These are very complex questions; indeed, so much more could be said about all of it. I prefer to make a distinction between the pontificate of the church since Vatican II and the mass of practicing orthodox Catholics (specifically those who are critical), although it’s difficult to speak of orthodoxy in present circumstances. I believe this could be generalized to cover Judaism and possibly certain branches of Islam as well.
Incidentally, I believe it was you who coined the phrase “cowards masquerading as morons”. What a perfect way of stating things.
Button, yes. I do not hear it said much anymore, but it used to be said quite a lot about the RCC: the Church is holy; not the people in it. But in my own personal experience, many of the holiest people I have ever met throughout my life have been individual Roman Catholics. However I do not find anything remotely holy about the Church itself.
Yes, something similar could likely be said about Islam and other faiths. However I would hesitate to include Judaism for the simple reason that in rejecting Jesus as their Messiah (and consequently Christianity as the faith of Abraham and Moses), Jews are no longer left with any interpretation of “chosen-ness” which is free of the sin of pride. And where there is no humility, there is no holiness.
Great News & Views! Thank you…
I’ve been following all of this closely, and have been placing the Muslim radicals in their true context thanks to your previous discussions regarding Gladio etc.
So Ukrainian Nazis and Muslim radicals (run by Nazis) was no surprise. Just so sad for the people of Donbass etc who are suffering from the Nazi madness in Kiev.
I would include any Slav, including Russian Slavs, on the Nazi hate list. I’m sure I read that Hitler wanted to annihilate all Russians when he invaded their country in WWII. And that hatred has definitely spilled into the thinking/feeling of the average pro-European Ukrainian. A genuine hatred that surprised me when I first heard it from a relation of mine who had just returned from Ukraine with a new bride.
I’m sure Soviet Russia caused them some grief, and it seems they are blamed for the Holodomor, but their hatred is excessively one sided. They can’t see what the Nazis did to them during WWII.
And of course the US Nazis are supplying arms, training etc against the Russian speaking south.
What a mess.
Jim Willie spoke in SilverDoctors.com of “King Dollar’s reign of terror”, which he sees as almost over.
http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-king-dollars-reign-of-terror-almost-over/#more-55589
This induced hatred shows not only the success of mind control methods in creating “political myths”, but how these myths, supposedly designed to benefit the “people”, mainly benefit just war-mongering oligarchs and all the financial and commercial trickery that goes with it. The economic destruction of the Ukraine appears to be quite deliberate, and you don’t need a Yale degree to understand that people under duress will more easily be swayed by the most outlandish “solutions” offered by the very people who caused those problems.
“and you don’t need a Yale degree to understand that people under duress will more easily be swayed by the most outlandish “solutions” offered by the very people who caused those problems.”
Hear, hear! That is indeed their standard game plan.
I remember Joseph connecting the dots between the WWII Nazis and the Muslim Brotherhood, and other Islamic extremists, but to see that they still have such a strong bond makes me wonder just what binds them together, is it their mutual hatred of the Jews, their mutual apocalyptic vision, their need for allies in their quests? It’s no wonder that the Islamic extremists like ISIL have so much money if those two camps are still in bed together. Interesting, isn’t it, that the neo Nazis in the US start wars in the middle east against the ‘Muslim terrorists’ and we can’t seem to make any headway in fighting them…well, no kidding, when you are actually allies.
so now we have NAZI’S but NAZI’S with a even narrower view of racial purity. I have heard but not sure if it was a direct quote from Hitler that if all of his soldiers were as good as his Islamic-Muslim allies that he would have been unstoppable.
Well, considering the Bush Family Crime Syndicate (TM) was founded by a Nazi banker at Brown Bros. Harriman who also was a point man for the 1933 anti-FDR fascist putsch revealed by Gen. Smedley Butler(take your bow, Senator Prescott von Busch) and that Karl “Turd Blossom” Rove (aka “Bush’s Brain”) was the grandson of a Nazi Gauleiter (ht Webster Tarpley), is it any wonder that the Nazis and the “radical Islamists” (read: Israeli Secret Intelligence Service, ISIS, which is the proper name of Mossad) are in bed together in the country of Ukraine, whose Jewish president, Porschenko, just sold the source of his wealth, a very successful candy company, to the Rothschilds (ding, ding, ding!) at the same time that Poof! Ukraine’s gold reserves have just vanished, as they’d done in Libya and Iraq and everywhere eles the Cabal decides to wreck a country to “save” it? (“Divide and Rule” in action). Well, knock me over with a feather!
Sorry to be totally un-PC, but it needs to be said: the rot at the heart of the West is the Unholy Alliance of Empire-building WASPS and financial-parasite Jews, who have thrown their lots together to subjegate the world under their NWO/Globalist Banksters+Anglo Empire dystopia. Each brings to the table their own unique “talents” to this profoundly evil mission.
They are nothing if not clever, and are moving along with nary a hiccup as they implode the world financial system on a very special “Jubilee” year, sure that they will usher in the next phase in their insane One Ring to Rule Them All agenda. God help us all — and please, the real God, not that Old Testament psychopath.
Look at Greece and China, canaries in the coal mine of a world economy that has been zombified and hijacked by the criminals — the psychopathic Cabal. October — the month of market meltdowns — is going to be epochal.
“the 1933 anti-FDR fascist putsch revealed by Gen. Smedley Butler”
The more I think about it the more I suspect that, although Butler was probably entirely sincere, the “Business Plot” was really a hoax and a masterful piece of disinfo. It served to cast FDR in a new light, as some crusader against the psychopathic PTB, when in fact he was plainly their ultimate puppet. In other words, it was little different from the assertions in the mainstream media during the Bush Jr. occupation of the White House that Junior and his father were fighting because they disagreed over policy, as if Junior, the moronic puppet, were his own man, free of his father’s influence. BULL****!!!! That BS was all staged in order to make drug-addled, brain-damaged Junior look better and stronger and thereby gain him support. Ditto for the Business Plot. No one in their right mind believed that a coup was possible back then, and this BS only served to make master puppet FDR look better and stronger and thereby gain him support.
I think you may well be right about that putsch; I hadn’t considered it from that angle, though that would mean that Butler remained a dupe, as he became a Democrat thereafter from pure disgust.
“that would mean that Butler remained a dupe, as he became a Democrat thereafter from pure disgust.”
Yes, Butler firmly believed what he was told. He was a good man. But I do increasingly believe that he was fully duped here. He of course knew first hand that these business magnates were evil men. But what he never grasped was that FDR was not in reality their opponent. Maintaining this false dichotomy between thesis and antithesis has always been the key to introducing their synthesis.
Oh that’s just great, now we’ve got radical muslim extremists in the Ukraine, it seems Porky can’t get the job done with the Ukrainian army so he needs help. Problem is, who is “paying” these new kids on the Ukrainian block…..hhhhmmmmmmmm.???????
The Ukraine, in my opinion, has been thrown under the bus by the US, they tried to get Putin to bite, and he didn’t, so now Porky is flying solo. Funny enough the Ukraine has virtually disappeared from the msm, it’s all Greece today, so Porky isn’t getting his daily opinion posted by the msm, and he has lost his tidal wave of rhetoric, AND according to some sources, the Ukraine is financially broke, so now the Ukraine is in the clutches of the IMF, and once that happens, the Ukraine and Greece are strange bedfellows.