NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM SEPT 3 2015
September 3, 2015 / /
Well, now it's (semi) official and the matter is settled (not): the flaperon found on Reunion is from MH 370:
France says wing part found on Reunion Island definitely from MH370
MH370 Flaperon Is Confirmed as First Debris from Missing Malaysia Flight
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I remember shortly after this event happened in an interview with George Ann and Dr. Farrell, the question of “salting the debris field” came up.
A piece of the aircraft shows up all shiny with no evidence of being in salt water for that long a period of time. I suspect they’ll wait for a period of time for another world event to take people’s attention and salt another piece if this does not satisfy investigators.
Giza Brother and mikea, good observations and questions both.
Unless more of this aircraft surfaces, then this flaperon flap can be written off as a sop for the public and synthetic “closure”: “See, it crashed in the ocean. Now don’t go asking why, and why and how it vanished, because it’s been FOUND. See, we have piece of it!”
The Aussies, out of the goodness of their hearts, spent $140+ million AUD on a wild goose chase searching the wrong half of the Indian Ocean, and after that farce grew too tedious, the flaperon washes up on a beach on the other side of that ocean. It looks more and more that this fragment has appeared just as mysteriously as the plane itself was “lost,” and is the physical talisman intended to bring this Twilight Zone spectacle to some sort of denouement.
Now that they have claimed that the debris found was with certainty a piece of MH370, this puts them in a pretty tight position because it looks very strange as long as no other pieces of debris surface and as long as they cannot even have a theory about how that piece got there, it is a more complicated situation than before that piece of “evidence” surfaced. It’s like saying that a piece of MH370 crashed in this region, but we don’t know where the 98% of the rest of the plane crashed. There is something covert/false going on about this whole incident and I have always suspected that there is a military element to this. On one hand the public is allowed to know about this piece of debris, but it is not allowed access to the satellite and radar data collected by the various forces active in this region, hence at this point I find this debris story to be a distraction. The investigation must get access to the data that has been gathered and those forces that don’t share that data eventhough they know what happened due to having access to that data, should be prime suspects in the investigation. Since this is not the case, it makes the current investigation to some degree fake.
The insurance aspect was previously mentioned by Chris. Will this alleged discovery of a small portion of the aircraft play into the compensation scheme? But this too will most likely remain shrouded in secrecy, with eventual payouts covered by a confidentiality agreements…. But on the other hand air transport is a key part of the world economy, so SOMETHING will eventally leak out sometime, somewhere. Even if this turns out to be Joseph’s original vanishment hypothesis. With the relative adjustment of the actuarial tables….
“I have always suspected that there is a military element to this”-
according to some alternative media sources shortly after this tragic incident was first publicized the plane supposedly entered a zone where joint US/Thai military drills were taking place and the plane was accidently (or not) shot down- but if that were the case why hasn’t China and Malaysia screamed this from the rooftops?- and how did the flaperon end up in the Indian Ocean?- the mystery of the demise of MH17 over the Ukraine is just as deeply shrouded as MH370; supposedly Dutch authorities have “highly classified” this incident and refuse to release any information
Before I take the findings of the French authorities seriously I would like to know the answers to the following questions.
1. How did 370 fly in the airspace between Diago Garcia and North Western Austrslia without detection from either of the U.S. Military bases at those locations.
2. How is it that Boeing don’t know where 370 is when they monitor all their aircraft and can actually fly the plan remotely themselves
3. If 370 crashed in the south eastern Indian Ocean how did this piece of debris drift against the westerly current, the prevailing westerly wind and not sink in the process. The flap did not look like it was water tight as several holes could be observed. remember the flap was heavy it took six men to lift it.
4. I have had considerably experience in marine environments an while the marine growth observed was consistent with what I would expect to see I would have also expected to see much more as no anti fowling agent was observed on the flap. Most noteworthy however is that the marine growth looked to have been dead for quite some time as the colour had been bleached out of the growth by time after it had died.
5. I would like to know the odds of this debris missing the 3,000 mile long West Austrslisn coast line which was directly down wind and current of the crash site and then do a complete circuit of the Indian Ocean and end up on tiny Reunion Island without sinking first.
6. I’m sure there are people reading this post that can tell me how much corrosion could be expected on this aluminium flap after spending 18 months in a salty environment.
apologies for being off topic folks.
I think Edwin Black was hedging in his books…..he mentions Rothschild only once sort of out of the side of his mouth. He is Jewish and he was under tremendous pressure from his family and his “tribe”.
I agree, it’s hard to know what is real and what is manipulation.
In an interview with Levenda a question was asked about zionism and the history of it. The interviewer mention Marx and the very uncomplimentary things he said of Jews. Levenda quickly enjoined that Marx was “a self hating Jew”. I found that remark odd. If I, as an Irishmen from decent, make truthful observations about the Irish (no tribe is perfect) does that make me a self hating Irishmen? Silly statement.
There are many Jews who by choice have left their “tribe” and look objectively as to the history that surrounds Zionism. I don’t consider them self hating, but I guess Peter Levenda probably does. He is not an objective researcher in all cases. Rather disappointing.
many thanks for your very thoughtful and extremely polite reply-
“Levenda quickly enjoined that Marx was “a self hating Jew”- this baffles me because it’s just unlike PL- in which interview did Levenda state this?- if you could provide source I would be greatly appreciative-
please stay well!-
I agree with you, there is a very odd convergence of information or release of information at this time that makes me wonder if we are all being manipulated toward a big revelation and damage control once that happens.
For one, why are we hearing so much with the release of well produced documentaries that are very sympathetic to Germany, Germans and Hitler? New information with the reunification of Germany regarding the Holocaust must be known and a lid is on it. One German researcher had to go to Russia to do his research because people are thrown in prison for just asking questions about what we were told about the Jews and Israel. Why now?
There was a news article from RT, I believe, stating that Putin has put in place a policy that there will be no criticism of Stalin and his policies during WWII on pain of arrest. Why now?
The world is tired of the brow beating that happens when anyone or nation does not support Israel. The sympathy of the world is changing because they are seeing the horror and brutality of Israel’s actions toward humanity in Gaza and elsewhere. Is this the opening for the people behind the production of these documentaries idealizing Hitler?
I too, found it odd that the Madrid Circular which the only source came from a Jewish researcher has nothing in it regarding the International Jewish organizations that were so powerful and very well documented by Black in his two books IBM and the Holocaust, The Transfer Agreement and also by the author that Dr. Farrell referenced named Hannah Ardnet and others. Why?
Were the Protocols of Zion written by Nazis and salted throughout the Muslim world to radicalize them? Was the scrubbed Madrid Circular released by a Jewish researcher in response to that?
I feel that we are being manipulated by two organizations or groups of people who are vying for control. All I want is the truth and I don’t want to be attacked and names flung my way for asking questions.
if one has read Edwin Black’s “The Transfer Agreement” about freighting thousands of Jews out of Nazi Germany to Palestine before the start of WW2; he just casually mentions towards the end of the book (don’t have pg. nr. in my head- sorry) the MOSSAD was actually a Nazi creation in order to secretely through ratlines get Jews out of Europe to Palestine;
then add Peter Levenda’s research about alleged back-of-truck carbon-monoxide Jew-gasser Walter Rauff ending up in Israel immediately after WW2-
then add the concept of the Vatican/Jesuits orchestrating all of this for divide-and-rule-
I don’t know what to believe anymore- only thing I firmly believe is we are living totally in a world of deception-
Larry in Germany
Another question to ask is the transfer of ownership of patents from the scientists on board to Rothschild? Remember that coming out right out of the gate at the time of the “crash”? I have noticed a pattern whenever there are one of these events that are highly suspicious is that at the beginning facts come out that are lost down a memory hole through the release of data that is misleading.
With all that is happening in the world and the bombardment of data it is hard to keep track of it all. But there were scientists on board heading for a meeting. And those scientists were involved with the findings of the aids virus and there were others on board that were working on another project. Does anybody else remember this?
“Another question to ask is the transfer of ownership of patents from the scientists on board to Rothschild?”- I’ve read this theory also-
“But there were scientists on board heading for a meeting. And those scientists were involved with the findings of the aids virus and there were others on board that were working on another project”-
I’ve never heard of this concept but I think it’s definitely possible considerung what a hideous cash cow the AIDS “industry” is- can you provide sources for this statement?- if so would be greatly appreciated-
I could go on forever about what I think is the AIDS scam but that would be too off-topic and clog this website-
After all those great books on
hidden archaeology, history and physics,
you are still listening and believing
the “lame stream” press?
Oh Joseph, did you get chipped? Oh no! :’~(
It was good to see your tag line; but where’s the meat?
[your take on events?]
There’s no point. THEY are sending out all kinds of trial balloons as distractions.
And personally, still killing me slowly, but it doesn’t work and winds up becoming torture with electromagnetic targeting. Much worse now,
but one doesn’t get use to it.
My prayers are answered for others, but not for me.
THEY’RE still thinking I’ll interfere all over again,
and all I want to do is……………
‘Stop the world, I want to get off!’
There isn’t any part of my life they don’t interfere in.
I’ll be pleased if this gets through without getting jumbled up.
With all his wonderful books, Joseph still doesn’t believe me and thinks I’m a kook….nice word for it, probably.
Thanks for the reply. I miss everyone.
THEY have cut off most of my contacts.
Strangely enough, I’m still the eternal optimist.
What else can I do?
Love you guys,
Just last week the French authorities stated that no conclusive identification could be made because there were no identifiable serial numbers on the wing flap , they were missing. What happened,did the numbers reappear using an acid test or supermans X-ray vision,or was it just they forgot to wear their glasses when inspecting the part the first time. They must think the memory of the public is about 4 days,,,, perhaps they’re right
The MH370 is fast becoming the airplane equivalent of the Roswell crash. The story gets stranger and stranger with every explanation the stories are all full of holes truth o truth come out from where ever you are.
Has the insurance money been paid out yet and what is in the insurance report?
The insurance money: now THAT is a great question….
what kind of barnacles on the part? Not all barnacles grow the same way and some take longer to attach then others….Hum.
China is currently in the market to buy 50 to 70 new jumbo jets. If France could bring some honesty to this investigation, or at least some information which might please the Chinese government, maybe Airbus will get the contract. Never underestimate what a 20 billion dollar contract will do to stir the pot and influence the outcome of any investigation. USA and Israel be damned. How long will Boeing allow their planes to be patsies in these zionazi false flags? if Boeing starts losing customers like China, the Federal Reserve will have to start buying Boeing jets to keep them happy and quiet.
There is NO compelling evidence that this is a “Zionazi false flag.”
I find this evidence compelling enough for me:
!) Two Iranians traveling with fake passports. Here are your patsies.
2) A muslim pilot with alleged jihad syndrome (alleged initially by the main stream press at least)
3) Two Ukrainians on board, unidentifiable for some time. Back up patsies?
4) Senile zionazi mouthpiece Rupert Murdoch claims immediately it is a muslim hijacking– I doubt he comes up with sensational knee jerk opinions just by reading the days headlines but I could be wrong. It seems like he would really be damaging his credibility, which of course means the credibility of his media empire.
5) FOX news and neocons seemed to have the jihad terrorist talking points in place right away. (One could argue they are a one trick pony and will seize any opportunity to malign Islam but one would really being getting some egg on their face if the plane simply malfunctioned and crashed, as would statistically be more probable).
6) identical plane in hangar in Israel. (A concocted internet conspiracy theory by someone to point the finger at zionists?)
There are probably a few more clues which escape me but just enough to lead me to cynically suspect the zionazis. And you can call me a myopic, irrational zionazi basher all you want but we’ve been living through their escapades for quite some time now, enough to give all of us a good education in their tactics. Now, as I have stated in the past, I am still open to the possibility that they may be the patsies in a grand scheme to give them enough rope to hang themselves and people like myself are being lead around by the nose by internet news. (Which makes me wonder sometimes if the internet itself was set up for one more purpose besides transferring CERN data, and that is to be an alternate source of information (programming) to compete with the western mass media which, by and large, is not owned by German oligarchs).
So maybe there is an undisclosed addendum to the Madrid Circular which lays out a plan for nazi Germany’s nemesis and number one foe. (The omission of any acts of retaliation against “international jewry” in the disclosed Madrid Circular is curious and out of character for vengeful nazis). I suspect there is more to their plan. In fact, I think it may be the most important part of their long range plan (if I know my diabolical nazis). For instance, I always thought the German word “holocaust” was an unusual word choice to describe the genocide of jews in WWII as it means “a sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames.” Very few jews died by fire in WWII so I suspect this word may have been cleverly planted in the public consciousness, not to describe what happened, but what some German speakers intend to have happen some time in the future. Drive them into one place, their believed homeland, then incinerate them all in some grisly fashion in an act of retribution which will also serve to gratify their ancestors and gods up in Valhalla.
I would like to believe the zionazis have no role in MH370 but I just can’t forget 9/11 and the dancing Israelis, or the USS liberty.
Well I’m with you on the 9/11 oddities. I still, however, do not find the 370 stuff compelled enough. Sorry.
Understood. I think not “compelling enough” is the key phrase as I am well aware that your evidentiary standards are quite high, which of course is what makes your work so authoritative. Thank you.
I’m with V and everyone else here, I don’t think your theory has gone poof, but I think another way of saying that it hasn’t is that this WILL get murkier. A lie upon lies is not the way to the truth, only the truth is that, but for now, the truth continues to go ‘poof’… until proven otherwise. The proof, of course, will be clear, if at all.
Peace be with you all, and see most of you tomorrow evening in the vidchat!
Check the Calendar occultfan. There’s no vidchat this weekend due to the holiday.
I did just check it and a loud ‘awww’ escaped.
But! Next week is just as well.
And yes, I know you haven’t; The evidence does not bear it out that it is out!
Also, I’m not really abandoning my non-normal disappearance of “poof” theory(after all, I state in the video that this does NOT dispense with all of the theories, and “all” includes my own “poof” theory, but simply acknowledging for the sake of argument that if the French findings are true, then the theory has a very small probability of being true. And, for the sake of argument, if the French findings ARE borne out, then this means that a narrative of what happened and why now MUST be created and agreed upon, and that’s when the defecation hits the rotary atmospheric oscillating turbine. But in reality? A whole month for a French military laboratory to find a serial number? Like many on here have indicated, “that dog doesn’t hunt.”
Thanks for clarifying your stance, Dr. Farrell. It’s truly a bizarre series of events, and I’m really aggravated that like another member has already said, this is going to turn out to be another Roswell incident in the long run. Multiple schools of thought with their own theories, but nevertheless agreeing that the official story is absurd.
The French authorities haven’t “confirmed” anything. The serial code was 100% fabricated as per the absurd amount of time it took for them to confirm this connection. The plane, as you originally stated Dr. Farrell, went “POOF”. There are no “parts” to be found, because 100% of that plane went along with whatever hidden physics made it possible to go “poof”. This is 9/11 passport & landing gear all over again, and I hope that you, amongst everyone else on this website, aren’t buying into it.
2 possible military scenarios (if true):
A) according to jimstonefreelance.com (one of the 1st to pose an alternative opinion to the disappearance of MH370) the plane was hijacked by an US AWACS machine and remotely flown for whatever reason (supposedly because scientists on bord were carrying on their persons highly sensitive technology to China) to Diego Garcia (fits into the Indian Ocean scenario where the flaperon has been reportedly recovered)-
B) the plane was shot down accidently en route to Peking by joint Thai/US military exercises which wouldn’t exactly fit into the waay far away Indian Ocean discovery (if true)-
Airbus is a jointly-owned French/German consortium (many are not aware of this) with Toulouse/Hamburg being their major headquarters-
now I have a really “stoopid” question: why would the wreckage of a BOEING 777 be investigated by AIRBUS???-
and if/IF this is true, did the flaperon (if truly recovered) remain very long in Toulouse or was it freighted off to…Hamburg-
you get my drift- please be well all-
Larry in Germany
“now I have a really “stoopid” question: why would the wreckage of a BOEING 777 be investigated by AIRBUS???-”
Well, given that the debris was recovered on French territory, it would seems that whoever is doing the investigating would be more familiar with Airbus than Boeing.
But even so, with only two major commercial airline manufacturers, it is hardly a stretch to think that any seasoned industry veteran (which presumably the investigators are) would be familiar with both companies products.
Eh does anybody find it passing strange that the wing part was manufactured by Airbus for Boeing, I mean they are two of the major players in the plane making business and are fierce COMPETITORS!!!!!
Why would Boeing, who could make the part themselves, give the gig to their competitor?????
AND, why does it take a whole month for the investigators to read a part number, a serial number or any number, A WHOLE MONTH !!!!!!!
I say BALLLLLONY.
you beat me to a lot of things; yes, why should Airbus manufactucture things for Boeing?- but we can be assured it goes both ways, just like both world wars
Sean David Morton on What Happened to Malaysia Airlines MH370
You’ll note that Mr. Morton is not a “source” I ever refer to on this website.
So the piece is said to have been found a month ago:
Two weeks later France was “unsure” about the provenance but is now certain. The name of the facility is Laboratoire de la Direction générale de l’armement – Techniques Aeronautiques (DGA-TA)
Studies were said to have focused on “local breakage of the piece” to see if it had sunk due to an “exceptional stress event” or “a very large number of small stress events” using “modern chemical and physical methods” including “a scanning electron microscope that can enlarge up to 100,000 times” (my translation).
Of course that precludes telltale signs expressed by “known” technologies, leaving such expressed signatures.
Then there’s the convenient finding?
If there are Rumsfeld unknown unknowns; then the water is certainly going to become murkier & murkier by definition.