MORE CONFIRMATIONS OF ROSSI, AND SOME INTRIGUING INSIGHTS

A few days ago, readers will recall I blogged about the formal granting of a US Patent to Italian cold fusion researcher, Dr. Andrea Rossi. It was, I suggested, another one of those small but significant steps that we are watching, as science and technology are chipping away at the current foundations of our energy, and hence, our financial culture. Indeed, readers here will recall that a little under a year ago the Rockefeller foundation complex began divesting itself of petroleum stocks, an indicator for some - this author included - that they know "something is in the works" and that everything is about to change. In that context, consider the following.

Mr. J.C. spotted this article, and I simply have to share it with the readership here, because it's one of those articles that also virtually insists on some high octane speculation-and-dot-connecting. THe basic story? The US Navy is examining cold fusion claims very closely, and has compiled an intriguing list of prerequisite conditions in the apparatus for it to occur.

Louis DeChiaro of US Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) on Replicating Pons and Fleischmann

Now the first thing that leaps out here are the statements toward the end of the article, outlining how, in the earliest stages of cold fusion research, in the absence of a theory or model on which to explain what was happening, scientists were left to the old Thomas Edison "trial and error" method. In that context, there is an indication  - at least from this source - that what is known of Rossi's alloying process does seem to support the model being proposed:

Almost none of this material was obvious back in 1989. Without knowing what one is doing and why it works, the probability of achieving successful results via the so-called Edisonian method of trial and error is disappointingly low. Reasonable scientists and engineers can be forgiven for their difficulty in believing that there might exist ANY circumstances under which such things could be possible. And to be blunt, it was only in the last few months that the causal chain finally became clear.

An old saying holds that it is easy to appear tall when standing on the shoulders of giants. My colleagues and I are most humbly grateful to have been given the opportunity to stand on the shoulders of such giants, however briefly.

I would also suggest that some praise might be due to people like Andrea Rossi, who (by and large) had little alternative but to employ the Edisonian method and nevertheless appear to have obtained positive results. We have run materials simulations (also known as Density Functional Theory simulations) on our best guess of Rossi’s alloy material. It satisfies all the conditions given above, while pure Nickel does not.

But what interests me most here - at least for my high-octane speculation and dot-connecting purposes - are the enumerated points of the "model" outlined in the article itself, and most notably, its twin emphasis on (1) electrical oscillation of hydrogen atoms within (2) vacant spaces of an alloyed latteice structure. All along, my favorite term for Cold Fusion has not been LENR, or Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, a descriptive title only, without any reference to any underlying explanatory model, but rather, LANR, or Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions. IN this respect, the first three enumerated points of the model leaped out at me:

1. It is necessary to set up conditions favoring the formation of molecular hydrogen (H2 or D2) inside the solid lattice for a certain range of possible values of lattice constant and for some fraction of the allowed values for electron momentum. This condition alone rules out almost ALL the elemental , because the electron density is just too large to permit molecules to form, except near vacancies in the lattice where a metal atom is absent.

2. The overall hydrogen loading fraction (ratio of hydrogen to palladium atoms, for example) must exceed the minimum threshold of about 0.88, otherwise the “party” never even gets started. Achieving this level of loading in Pd is not trivial.

3. Conditions must be set up (by appropriate choice of materials parameters and achieved by the right kind of alloying) so that these hydrogen molecules can be caused to break up and then re-assemble very rapidly in a periodic time sequence when an appropriate physical quantity such as background electric charge, magnetic field, etc. is made to oscillate periodically over a small range.(Emphasis added)

What leaped out at me, in other words, is that one essential component, on this model, of lattice assisted nuclear reactions, are vacancies in the lattice structure itself, or to put it in terms more appropriate to crystallography, cold fusion appears to be a process reliant at least in part on lattice defects, the types of Frenkel and Shotsky and screw displacements of crystal lattice structures that one ordinarily encounters in dramatic and visible fashion in crystals such as quartz, but which are not so readily visible in more metallic lattices. It's the vacancy in the lattice structure in other words that allows the hydrogen atoms to embed themselves within the vacancy, and then to oscillate under electrical stress, at least, that's the thinking as outlined in the three initial points.

It makes one wonder - to indulge in our trademark high octane speculation - exactly what might be possible to apply typical cold fusion types of processes, not on layered metallic alloys and lattices, but rather on layers piezoelectric materials such as limestone and granite, under not just electrical, but other types of stress, including acoustical stress. Years ago this very idea intrigued me, after reading Mr. Christopher Dunn's examination of the Great Pyramid from an engineer's point of view. His conclusion of course was evident from the title of his book: The Giza Power Plant, in which he outlined a process of the formation of hydrogen gasses under particular types of stress(some acoustical in nature), all taking place within a structure composed of crystal bearing rock, and which in itself was a gigantic "artificial crystal", with its own lattice displacement defects in the form of the interior chambers. If any of this high octane speculation be true, then one might be looking at a reactor of some sort.

But in the meantime, the interest of the US Navy, and the compilation of necessary lists of requisite factors to be in place in order for the phenomenon to occur at all, is an interesting indicator of the future: ships (and spacecraft), whose energy supply might be from such a process on a large scale. A model - a detailed model - is now being proposed and tested, and pursued.

And this will change everything...

See you on the flip side.

 

48 thoughts on “MORE CONFIRMATIONS OF ROSSI, AND SOME INTRIGUING INSIGHTS”

  1. Ah! Here is a Speculation twig: Evoking Richard Hoagland and Hyperdimensional physics, there may be a macro spatial element, a scalar lattice of sorts, that has to be present for the reaction to take place. This was one theory as to why the Pons Fleischmann experiment could not be easily reproduced in different locations(labs). This may also correspond to the earth power grid hypothesis. Not only is the micro lattice at play but its overlay position relative to the earths power grid or lattice on the macro scale. Back to geometry again. Whats the secret of cold fusion: Location Location Location! Both/AND Resonance Resonance Resonance! Maybe its NODE FUSION…..

    1. Except positive cold fusion results have been repeated for the last 25 years.

      Rossi may have found a better method, but he’s far from the first to get it to work repeatedly.

      Right, doing the experiment at Stonehenge could help, if you had the right set up.

      1. True. Thanks for your comments. Contemplating experiment protocols to test the hypothesis would be interesting. Acknowledging my ignorance, perhaps it’s already been done!

        1. F:

          Infinite Energy magazine will list plenty of suppliers.

          And it has 2 decades of reporting on experimental successes too.

  2. So now hydrogen is the God particle? Since it is the most abundant atom in the universe I suppose…..it figures. I think an important point is missed in all this,that the mechanics in science ,the experimenters,are the true pioneers and achievers. Theories are just talk till they’re proven in the lab or the garage,and everyone knows talks cheap. Tesla always was experimenting and trying to build what he imagined to be true, establishing a proof of concept. We can see now theorists were employed to muddy the scientific waters to hide the truth under their baloney and horse manure,like how the Biene/Brown effect was disappeared. One picture worth a thousand words. Lets hope experimentation now begins in earnest in the public sector,mother earth needs her children now more than ever.

    1. I like to ‘wow’ non-science people with the hydrogen atom. Our bodies are around two-thirds water. Water is two-thirds hydrogen (by atoms). Nearly-all hydrogen atoms were assembled shortly-after the Big Bang. So, about half of our bodies (by atoms) is as ancient as the Big Bang. Definite ‘wow’ and awe-inspiring, if you think about it…

      (To quibble, it is actually the protons and neutrons that date back that far. Electrons come and go. But that would complicate the story.)

      1. isn’t every free electron another version of hydrogen?

        http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0962689548?keywords=fourth%20phase%20of%20water&qid=1445485439&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

        and aren’t we made of much more water than just 70%?

        and isn’t there alot more electric charge out there than big bang standard theorists will have us believe?

        is it possible hawking is complete fiction and that all dark matter is really his fiction and that instead the universe is mostly plasma energy – aka electricity?

      2. And the knowledge behind cold fusion allows for making matter, hydrogen too, out of the aether.

        So no it’s not real likely that the hydrogen in your body has been around, unmodified, since the beginning of material time.

        And see Fred Hoyle and Halton Arp for big problems with the big bang ever having occured.

        1. In Halton Arp’s facinating book “Seeing Red”, he makes a compelling case that quasars are not at cosmological distances but rather are being ejected from active galaxies associated with high X-ray and radio emissions. He speculates that quasars extreme reshifts are intrinsic and they could be the manifestation of matter creation itself. If redshift is not always indicating cosmological distances, this is the death of the Big Bang theory et al and all that grant money! No wonder Arp got kicked out of the club! I never knew cold fusion was also associated with possible matter creation. Interesting!

          If the Big Bang is not the answer, The Electric Universe theory is elegant in its scalar simplicity and experimental verification. This paridigm shift will not come easy as careers and money are valued more than those pesky facts…..

          1. But! but! BUT! The Big Bang is holy! It’s sacrosanct! It’s — it’s received truth! It’s… religion!

            And there is the problem in a nutshell. I agree EU is clear, elegant, scalable and above all logical and explanatory. The current cosmology, with the Big Bang and Black Holes and Event Horizons and Dark Matter and String Theory… and Dumbledore and Deatheaters and Direwolves and the Night’s Watch…
            … Well, it takes years of intensive education and instruction to get anyone to actually believe all that. It’s the ultimate arcane nerd fantasy game, World of Warcraft and Harry Potter writ cosmologically large, and it just got waaay out of hand.

            If you’ve ever dealt with academics, you know that they are the most insecure and vindictive group imaginable. All they have are their ideas, which they have a relationsip to like Gollum and his Precious, and they act in the same way when their Preciouses are challenged. They are ruthless!

          2. LOL! Thanks for the laugh of the morning. Love the analogies! I can really “see” them crawling around the halls of academia with their Precious! I too was reluctant in giving up such fun and fanciful theories that was inculcated in me.I did mourn the loss of such wonderful, entrancing ideas. I doubt that we shall live long enough to see the EU concept accepted.
            In the past, as Thomas Kuhn pointed out, new ideas replaced the old as a function of attritian: they died out along with their supporters. Now,like corporations, the Big Bang will never die. It has reached immortality on the Science Channel, et al.

  3. its interesting how soo many things come about.methotraxate was a derivative of folic acid then developed for leukemia in children in the late 40s early 50s .now it the industry standard for dealing with Rheumatoid A and many more auto immune disorders.they have a limited scope on how it works? more like a syntax view .the so called educated drones in the dark may have to accept many things that they do not understand ,if it works what are you gona do ?? goes for cold fusion.what is gravity?? are you going to suspend Newton? why not just a little.

  4. Louis F. DeChiaro: “These oscillations in spatial spread will periodically delocalize the nucleus and facilitate the tunneling of adjacent nuclei into the Strong Force attractive nuclear potential well, giving rise to nuclear fusion at rates that are several tens of orders of magnitude larger than what one calculates via the usual Gamow Factor integral relationship.”

    Wow! Quantum reality at its ‘weirdest’. Delocalizes the mind (grin)…

  5. This whole LANR approach to energy-production has me curious about what is really-going-on beneath our feet. The orthodoxy approach to why Earth is not an iceball has to do with nebulous terms like ‘heat of formation’ or ‘breakdown of supernovae radioactive remnants’. For the former, 4.5 billion years is a lot of time to dribble-out that heat. For the latter, it must take a huge amount of unstable isotopes to power our ‘core’.

    What if, instead, Nature has found a way to have LANR under the temperature and pressure domains of the deep Earth?

  6. The Naval research folks at China Lake have always been more open and honest about this whole situation. That was one place which did replicate many experiments and followed the development of this area with a balanced and level head.

    Not surprising that the Navy is leading the slow backtracking on Cold Fusion.

    What interested me is that they laid the groundwork for “witch hunt” apologists – the whole thing about “reasonable scientists,” (an oxymoron if you ask me). They are obviously prepping for making those witch hunters look not quite so stupid to the public.

    I think it was Bohr who said (facetiously) “never trust an experiment until it’s been verified by theory.”

    Here we have a classic example of politics at work in science.

  7. If they have had this technology all this time. Why have they been destroying the Earth extracting coal and oil for energy it makes no economic sense. Unless these degenerates get off on causing suffering and misery around them.

    1. mt,
      heard a similar question put by folk wondering why the powerful folk who literally produce as much currency as they like when they like still both to tax the rest of us at such onerous rates. let alone why we get crushed with such usurious rates on loans. it might even have been joseph who put this out there.

      the real purpose of taxing us is not to generate funds but rather to restrict the rest of us on what resources we’re allowed access to. thinking knowledge, resources and energy all work along the same logic for these folk.

      anyone got a better answer?
      thank you
      zdb

      1. I don’t know about that, but if most of the life on planet Earth by mass is hydrogen energy based microbes in the interior rock of the Earth then perhaps life starts in the interior of planets rather than on the surface. If so perhaps these microbes evolve and mutate to survive on planetary surface features where ever and however they can. If there is abundant water some adapt and mutate to thrive in water of all temperatures. Where there is carbon dioxide atmosphere some evolve into plants and adapt to take advantage of that. Others adapt to oxygen and become animals. Others adapt to sulpher, nitrogen, or whatever else they can to in other environments or on other worlds. Perhaps when planets get hit by giant meteors or comets and break up some chunks with these microbes may colonize other worlds when they land on them. Electricity and lightening occurs inside planets as well so may create and be the catalyst for life inside planets first and only where surface conditions are right will life come out to express itself on the surface however it can. Perhaps most or all planets really are alive after all in a sense. I also suspect all elements including gold and other heavy metals are created inside our own Earth via cold fusion and other processes deep in the Earth, especially during fault slips and deep Earthquakes where mineral make up has all the elements, temperature, pressure and electrical discharge to do so.

        1. take a look at thunderbolts.info. gads i’m always saying that. elements and compounds are formed in plasma from interplanetary electrical discharge. as well as other interesting tidbits like electric discharge machining cutting chunks that fall from one discharging body (mars most recently) to another as they interact with each other (earth).

          in terms of recent and current observable generation of materials, gander at some recent inexplicable (at least by those in steven hawking’s camp) findings on water generation from comets as they flare. hawking et al have standard theory that the flaring is a discharge of frozen dirty snow on or below the surface on comets that warms as they near the sun. flares occur as comets exit the sun’s close orbits as well. and so far, the latest comet explorations have found no water content on or inside them.

          electric universe theory sets up a nice scalable replicable model though. electric discharge on stellar scale interacting with rock that is comet – aka electrons aka hydrogen hitting rock massively combining with formerly locked in oxygen compounds producing massive water jets and flares. happens on galactic scale with water jets coming from galactic centers too.

          interesting models that make sense more easily than black holes and hot fusion with inexplicable holes in theories all over the place though.

          thank you,
          zdb

  8. That which has been will be,
    That which is done is what will be done,
    and there is nothing new under the sun.
    Is there anything of which it will be said,
    “See, this is new?” It has already been in
    Ancient times before us. [Ecclesiates 1:9-10]

    The dark horse of the New World Order is no Communism, Socialism, nor Fascism: It Is Technocracy. In a nutshell, historic Technocracy is a utopian economic system that discards price-based economics in favor of energy or resource-based economics.
    Or as Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World portrayed it:
    A Scientific Dictatorship.

    1. Between the years 1933 and 1939, the march of Technocracy, Inc.[updated version] left an indelible mark on history. Unfortunately, historians recorded very little of this era because of the previous Hearst editorial moratorium on the word “Technocracy”.
      In 1973, the Trilateral Commission quietly adopted a modified version of historic Technocracy to craft what is called a “New International Economic Order”.
      With the combined weight of the most powerful global elite behind it, Technocracy has flourished in the modern age and has perhaps reached a tipping point… {TPP, TTIP, TISA]… of no return.
      The term Technocracy was first used publically by W. H. Smyth in 1919 article ” Industrial Management”; from the Greek word “Techne” meaning skilled and “Kratos” meaning rule. Government by skilled engineers, scientists and technicians as opposed to elected officials[European Troika]. Stark example: Greece in process.
      From every sub-atomic particle to the entire universe, each smaller part is integrated & subservient to the larger. Thus a Holon is a stable unit within a larger system that is controlled by other Holons greater than it all, of which are in continuous state of evolution to a higher more complex form. Such a complete system of Holons is referred to as a Holarchy. Technocracy view all Holons in the world as little more than engineering projects to be analyzed, debugged & re-engineered[Transhumanism] according to the scientific method. Science instead of God. Threads of Technocracy, Scientism, & Transhumanism are intertwining themselves into the modern Christian Church.
      Technocracy really is the glue that binds together disparate events, movements and concepts.

  9. The reading I’ve done on the Pyramid at Giza alleged that it was a huge infrastructure project. While the Nile flowed past it, it could, irrigate fields via a passive internal pump structure, make H2 and act as a Star Gate. Physically teleporting people to locations unknown.

    The fact that granite might be more suitable for the LENR process is highly amusing. This is antique technology at it’s best.

    1. read or saw something awhile back. probably through robert baval. seems the terrain changed quite a bit more than regular egyptologists’ wildest dreams. seems giza was on the nile. more importantly, seems there are huge underground water systems not unlike tesla’s waterflow under and near wardenclyffe.

      1. Robert Temple has some interesting observations on where the Nile River was located in ancient days. He shows evidence that the Sphinx enclosure was originally a ‘moat’. He suspects that this moat started as a three-sided affair with the Nile-level actually furnishing several feet of water in the enclosure. He even points out the remains of a docking platform.

        As the Nile River slowly changed its course, the Sphinx enclosure only received water during the Nile flood phase. So, a ‘sluice’ was built to let in water during the flood period and retain the water during the year. Robert Temple shows where this was located, in a back-part of what is now-interpreted as the Sphinx Temple or the Valley Temple (can’t remember now).

        Finally, the Nile moved far-away enough so that water never reached the Sphinx enclosure. That was when the ‘moat’ was abandoned.

        (Robert Temple is a holder to the orthodox-dating of the Sphinx, so he places the Nile-movement comparatively late. If Robert Schoch’s geologically-dated, much-earlier carving of the Sphinx is true, there is much more time for this Nile-wandering…)

        Robert Temple has also complained that ‘restoration work’ under Zahi Hawass’ direction was destroying the evidence of ancient water-wear in the lower elevations of the enclosure…

        1. i was about to reference schoch. i’m more familiar with him than temple. as i remember shoch’s theory that it’s much older is based on damage from water erosion that could only come from rains that could only come in a jungle. last i heard him he was guessing closer to 15,000 years with much remodeling. he’s still working on it.

          when given that time and other catastrophic events that are more likely in the last 12,000 years from a thunderbolts.info perspective, it all splains more simply.

          also, last year or two, electric universe theory got a boost when standard theorists saw carbon dating dumped on by solar flares speeding up and slowing down rates of radioactive decay.

          1. Schoch has been conservative on the water-wear dating of the Sphinx, probably due to wanting to remain within conventional academic circles. The unearthing of Gobeckli Tepe and its dating to the end of the last Ice Age seems to have emboldened Schoch (and others) to take GT as the new ‘start of civilization’ date. So, Schoch can now push-out the Sphinx dating and still remain within conventional academia…

  10. I agree with Lost that the Navy’s hand got forced here, and they don’t want to be made to look like fools by Rossi, and so now have to publish a bit of what they’ve been researching secretly for decades. This is obviously but a peek at what they actually know.

    Thus the somewhat back-handed, subtly snide “compliment” that Rossi came up with his Secret Sauce by dint of “Edisonian trial and error.” Actually, I’m sure they’re beyond furious that he let the LANR cat out of the bag, and Rossi seems to have played this masterfully, seeing as he is still alive and has now gotten a US patent and his process has just been validated by the USN.

    So much for petroleum. Apparently, the MIC has finally decided it is just too much of a headache to keep playing the Oil Game. Time to revert the ME+NA back into Nowheresville.

    1. My biggest question is why Rossi has not been ‘silenced’ in some way. I half-expected him to have a car accident or a quick-onset cancer. Instead, we have Bill Gates sidling up to him. Why the turnaround in ‘offing’ garage inventors?

      1. I would think that the calculus is that the oil-producing nations are not our friends and that Russia and Iran will be predominating now that the Saudis apparently are depleting their reserves. US shale oil is a flash in the pan and won’t do squat long-term. The US economy is in an absolute shambles anyway and the Imperial war machine cannot go on forever wrecking the world’s easy targets. And so they’ve decided to pull the rug out from under oil. It will drop the importance (and cost of “policing”) the Middle East tremendously. No one will care about it anymore, as Russia and China become the new bogeymen.

        The shift will hurt the US a lot and the Seven Sisters will go reeling, but it will cripple oil-rich US enemies more, particularly Russia. It is long overdue anyway, it will help an environmentally stressed out planet, and the tech can no longer be suppressed, so why not pivot now? I think in the end it is a bitter pill but they are moving from necessity; the Empire is tottering and increasingly fragilized from internal contradictions, and I suspect they think/hope this will be a knock-out blow to its “enemies.”

        1. wow. nice progression basta. hadn’t put enough detail together to flesh that out yet. easily the most likely scenario i’ve pictured so far. there’s lots of other transition worthy ideas. rossi’s seems the one chosen so far.

          reading up on him a few years back, it looked alot like his system works alchemical ideas along – and comes up with lot’s o nickel as byproduct. and perhaps any element depending on how progressions of elements are set up and worked in the lattices.

          so now i’m conjecturing that mr global works energy the same as currency. central banking and central govt taxes don’t just provide infinite wealth to mr global. they also provide oppressive (as desired) control over the rest of us. so when mr global transitions off petrochem, how does he do so with a minimum of oppression?

          my guess is reduction of oppression (at least to some degree) is desired. have read and seen studies by mr global on wwII and how that level of oppression actually slowed down their transition to new world order. not sure and can’t reference it, but the impression i drew was that another run of ruinous deflation/hyperinflation scenarios are not necessarily desired by mr global.

          tell that to greece and the m.e. though right?

        2. Basta, an interesting scenario. They tried to wreck Russia with the Saudi-based drop in oil prices, but that did not work. It hurt the Russian economy, but did not produce the desired regime-change. Perhaps, as you say, the next step is to depose oil altogether. This would align with the Rockefeller (Rockenfelder) trusts getting out of oil before the big slump. Interesting times…

          Zendogbreath, you may have touched on ‘why now’ with the “ruinous deflation/hyperinflation scenarios”. The various QEs should have shown up as massive inflation. Something is holding that back. Likewise, the massive debt-overheads of nearly-all nations are forcing cutbacks which will eventually translate-downwards into deflation. Faced with these certainties, the market ‘distractions’ caused by the introduction of free energy may divert the upcoming ‘farmers with pitchforks’ scenario. Perhaps Rossi still-lives because of pressing bankster issues…

  11. Now, since the P and F debacle, the Navy has had a whole lot of time to get out in front of this. It seems eminently possible, that the Nacy already has working models of LANR power units operating.

  12. This looks more like a controlled release of information–the Navy getting ahead of Rossi.

    More than 20 years ago, a chip engineer, who’d done his major work (at least what he was allowed to talk about) in the 1960s and early 1970s, pointed out to me the helpfulness of a lattice for cold fusion, and in an unrelated conversation said something along the lines of “the great secret of computer processing chips is the defects in the lattice”–thereby by likely explaining why only 2 or 3 countries and very few companies have mastered CPUs.

    1. Ahhh I accidentally hit the red “report”, I’m sorry.
      What you said about helpfulness of the lattice. I’m thinking the type of energy to move the blocks has something to do with the material. The Giza blocks were made from limestone which is primarily composed of calcite which has a hexagonal lattice. Hydrogen also has the hexagon structure. The crystal structure of a substance is the outcome of the combined effect of several types of interatomic interactions. These interactions contribute to the crystal’s free energy.
      Tesla “If you can only understand the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have the key to the universe.”

      1. Sandy:

        The blocks in the Great Pyramid were made of concrete; the process has been repeatedly demonstrated for the last 40 years.

        This process was applied world wide, and can be done with stone like granite too. This means granite statues and bowls from Egypt were cast.

  13. We still haven’t caught up with the antediluvian technology, brought to earth by those “who from Heaven to earth came” and taught to their hybrid offspring. Rumor has it that they will return. I doubt they will be coming from Nibiru…

    1. Well Walking Dead I think you are right, as Joseph has said many times, they hid the technology “UNTIL” the time was right to bring it back into play. Who knows what has been translated in the Sumerian clay tablets, especially the one’s looted from the Baghdad museum ??????
      The ancients knew a hell of a lot, and we are now only scraping the surface of the lost “STUFF”.

      1. I’m curious as to whether or not they have discovered any of the three repositories of knowledge rumored to exist. Most of the clay tablets recorded daily events and history, most likely not much of a technological nature contained within them. Whether or not any of them contain the whereabouts of those repositories is a question yet to be answered.

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