NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM OCT 8 2015

Did Germany's Bundesbank just start playing hardball with the gold repatriation issue? And why now?  Here's the (short, but highly suggestive) article:

Germany made a 2,300-page list detailing every single bar of gold it owns

 

 

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

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  1. DanaThomas on October 13, 2015 at 4:15 am

    As the financial slow-burn continues, there has been another explosion in Tianjin, China. According to the ZeroHedge article, the warehouse that burned to the ground contained alcohol/ammonia AND MAYBE DOCUMENTS. Not quite the ideal merchandise mix…



  2. yankee phil on October 11, 2015 at 1:10 am

    Venezuela asks for their gold back and Chavez gets(is given) cancer,dies,Holland asks for its gold back and Friso,the royal financial manager,is accidented,Gadafi wants to trade oil for gold and Libya is invaded and he’s killed outright,Iran wants to trade oil for gold and they’re turned into a pariah state. I’m waiting to see who dies in Germany for their gold return request. Whats next,am I going to get accidented when I ask for my social security pension(I want it paid out in gold as I paid into it in blood)?



  3. DanaThomas on October 10, 2015 at 4:29 am

    Tidbit on Nazi gold in Spain: Spanish numismatic website speculates on why, in the 1960s, Spain reissued gold coins from the monarchist era when the country supposedly did not have had enough gold to do so…
    http://hnumisma.blogspot.it/2011/10/el-oro-nazi-en-espana-y-las.html



  4. kitona on October 9, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    Quoting goshawks: “Have you ever seen the movie/artwork, “The Man Who Planted Trees”? (original title: “L’homme qui plantait des arbres”) Inspiring…
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093488/

    I personally haven’t seen the original but a couple of years ago I did read a book about a follow-up (of sorts) to the Jean Giono story in France. A kind of real life Elzeard Bouffier named David Milarch in Michigan.

    The new 2012 book is written by Jim Robbins and it is pretty fascinating. Milarch, who worked in a garden nursery, was an alcoholic who had a near death experience. He claims that he was visited by “angels” who instructed him to save the trees. He has since committed his life to cloning the largest and oldest available of each tree species. The basic idea being that man has foolish plundered the largest specimens of each species and only left behind the “runts of the litter” so to speak. Consequently this has had dramatic negative effects on the health of forest.

    Milarch has had quite a bit of success. He has met with a number of scientists and has travelled as far as California, England and even China visiting sacred groves and collecting samples. The most fascinating part of the book to me was how little contemporary science actually knows about trees. There was some fascinating information in the book but the bit that has really stuck with me is how tree buds have actually been document to follow radiation patterns related to stars. It’s actually blindingly simple…trees are collectors of “stellar” (or if you prefer, “solar” energy.)

    If you’d like an enjoyable read then I definitely recommend the book:
    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-man-who-planted-trees-jim-robbins/1105608084

    I’d also encourage you to check Milarch website at:
    https://www.ancienttreearchive.org/tag/david-milarch/



    • goshawks on October 10, 2015 at 12:39 am

      kitona, I believe I have heard about “David Milarch in Michigan” and his work. It is interesting that this originated after a NDE. Kenneth Ring wrote a couple of books on NDEs, and often found that ‘participants’ had a deep-reset of values. Good for Milarch. (And good for the world.)

      In the Pacific NW, there are new breeding programs based on what you noted. Loggers had taken the tallest and straightest evergreens over several generations, leaving only the stunted and twisted ones to reproduce. Finally, probably as a result of ecological thinking, someone said “Duh!” Now, seeds are taken from prime specimens to nursery-grow into seedlings. These are used to replant cut-over areas on an industrial scale. Nice. (Now, if we can keep loggers away from old-growth areas…)



  5. WalkingDead on October 9, 2015 at 4:58 am

    This may be the way the Germans are giving the Fed a method to recreate the German gold bars which may have been used for other purposes and may no longer be in their original state, in effect, no longer in existence. By giving them the serial numbers of each bar, they can be recreated and then repatriated. This may account for the lengthy time frame allowed for that repatriation.
    It is most definitely a message that they know how many bars the Fed should have and what, exactly, are their identifying numbers should the Fed try and palm off someone else’s gold in order to resupply Germany their gold. If I were Germany, I would not count too highly on getting those exact same bars back in their original state.
    As has been stated above, those who ask first and press the issue will be the winners, everyone else will be the losers. When this Ponzi scheme topples, it will bring the entire system down.



    • goshawks on October 9, 2015 at 9:36 am

      WalkingDead, excellent! I had not thought of that angle. Likely true. If I were Germany, I would also be prepared to finely-chop-up every single bar and test each for other metals like tungsten…



    • basta on October 9, 2015 at 10:40 am

      Yes, I too think WalkingDead has nailed it. It’s the Bundesbank’s version of “An Idiot’s Guide to Gold Repatriation,” 2300+ pages long to make the point that the issue has NOT been forgotten.

      Anyway, good look to them. That gold passed the event horizon over 50 years ago and counting.



      • goshawks on October 9, 2015 at 11:52 am

        “Passed the event horizon.” I love it! Thanks for the grin.



      • WalkingDead on October 9, 2015 at 2:50 pm

        Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally…



    • DanaThomas on October 9, 2015 at 12:32 pm

      Interesting suggestion by WalkingDead. And in the meantime, Zerohedge (“47 Years After 1968, Bundesbank STILL Fails To Deliver A Gold Bar Number List”) has a strongly critical piece on the Bundesbank report by Herr Boehringer, the head of the German gold repatriation campaign. As you can see if you download the pdf, the 2,000 pages contain “inventory numbers” for Bundesbank, BoE and Banque de France, and “Bar/Melt numbers” for the Fed. According to Boehringer this list is “a deliberate smokescreen”.
      Be that as it may, the publication still stands to be a “reminder note” for the German demand to have the gold repatriated.



    • milt on October 10, 2015 at 10:03 am

      Walking dead,

      That’s an interesting angle. It may also be a tit for tat negotiation in regards to the Volkswagon emissions fines.



  6. TRM on October 8, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    200+ to 1 for paper to physical on the gold front recently. As goshawks said above this has all the makings of a classic bank run, just at a global scale.

    As the physical gets claimed you’ll have a crazy (crazier?) situation in which delivery dates get pushed out 5-10+ years. It takes a while to open those mines back up and get them running. Also look for reassurances that all is well because we have located asteroids full of platinum, gold, silver and precious metals so you’re all covered.

    Once that happens the paper drops in value, the physical goes up as they try to get back to something less insane than 200-1



  7. goshawks on October 8, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    To me, all these repatriation moves seem to mimic the early stages of a ‘bank run’. If you were one of the early customers who asked for their money (and got it), you were way-ahead of those who applied later and were told ‘sorry, none left’. I suspect a similar ‘surprise’ awaits those governments who apply-late for gold repatriation from the Fed…

    Germany is interesting, because – unlike Austria – they have enough foreign gold to bring down the system if they press the issue. Fortunately for them, this situation could give them ‘leverage’ on all kinds of issues. Unfortunately, as Joseph mentions, the ‘independence’ of the Bundesbank from the German government allows this private bank (in probable collusion with the other *ahem* privately-owned banks) to ‘stonewall’ any bankster-unpopular moves.

    If the Deutsche Bundesbank ‘falls’, I would love to see the German government step-in and ‘Icelandicize’ it…



  8. EVERMORE on October 8, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    Why has the subject of GOLD resurfaced now?

    Along with Dr Farrell’s spot on analysis I’d like to add:

    – Volkswagen (arguably the largest car manufacturer in the world and has been reported to represent around 15% of total German GDP just got slammed with a HUMUNGOUS $14+ billion fine from US regulators. Many other countries have said they are about to bring similar charges against them therefore creating a potential financial tsunami for not just VW but the WHOLE German economy.

    – Deutsche Bank as today reported at Zero Hedge etc has reported a dramatic financial drop in earnings eg from USA Today “Deutsche Bank warned Wednesday that a series of charges, including litigation expenses, will result in a third-quarter loss of $6.97 billion, or 6.2 billion euro.” – again its litigation being used against a major German company.

    – the US engineered refugee crisis where millions of boat people all of a sudden arrive in southern Europe and DEMAND to go to one particular country…you guessed it Germany.

    – and then there is the nuclear weapons issue and more missiles being placed in Germany.

    Germany’s modest response…..you want to play hardball Uncle Sam? Well we think we’ll just re-open that big ugly box of “gold worms” we have stored in New York and up the ante a bit by releasing all the serial numbers and data we have, so pressure us much more and we may just blow the friggin’ lid off this thing.

    Let’s see who blinks first.



  9. kitona on October 8, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    What is the deal with a map graphic of the North Atlantic hurricane season for a post on German gold repatriation? Am I missing something?



    • margaret on October 8, 2015 at 6:39 pm

      I was wondering about that myself Kitona. While I welcome the change from the earlier gratuitous stock photos, the new ones don’t always seem to relate either … in particular, the one of the whipped plantation slave with the horribly scarred back (that was very distressing to see). And I’ve been getting confused reading the comments because they’re reversed, with the most recent now at the bottom instead of at the top. I prefer the most recent at top, as had been decided at one time. But, one very nice new feature is the comment ‘edit’ option in case changes are needed before hitting the send button. Enjoying everyone’s comments, thanks all!



  10. DownunderET on October 8, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    Hjalmar Schacht must have a small wry smile on his face, wherever he is. So where is the NAZI'(oops Germany’) gold? Well imagine asking Janet Yellen, she’d say eh, it’s downstairs in our vault, but we can’t find it. If this is a message. then really who is it aimed at?
    Publishing gold bar identification numbers is telling someone what they should be looking for, and if the bars “WITH” these identification numbers ain’t there, then the gold bug jig is up.



  11. marcos anthony toledo on October 8, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    So the where is Germany’s Gold show continues I hope their accounts are up to the task of ferreting it out. One more torpedo into the side of the empire as it continue it’s slide into oblivion.



  12. marcos anthony toledo on October 8, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    Bundesbank might go the way of Lehman Brothers what’s going on in Germany. Have they been playing casino too with their clients saving and commercial bank accounts. What is the World coming to a Great Depression on steroids.



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