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MORE ON THE DOWNED RUSSIAN AIRLINER

I've been, as most readers know, in "catch up" mode  regarding the downing of the Russian airliner since the Secret Space program conference two weekends ago, and many people have kindly shared articles and, more importantly, their thoughts about what might be going on.

These have ranged the whole gamut, from Surface to Air missiles, an air-to-air missile (and thus a military strike), to the usual "Israel did it" crowd, and even private thoughts that it might be a colossal design failure in the Airbus aircraft that various parties want to keep secret.

For the most part, I tend presently to lean to some sort of bomb on board, or a missile strike of some sort, though both views are problematical for different sets of reasons. Mr. G.B., however, shared two articles, both from RT, which highlight the growingly complex geopolitical situation in the Middle East against which, in my opinion, any accurate assessment of the tragedy that happened to the Russian flight crew and passangers must be placed. The first concerns Turkey's growing role in the region:

Turkey to ‘act militarily’ against ISIS in coming days – foreign minister

What is of interest here is the subtle shift in Turkish rationalizations for its role in Syria. Originally, of course, this was ostensibly to assist the US in its efforts to overthrow the Assad regime in Damascus, but I strongly suspect that this original involvement was as much about dealing with the Khurds, and also staking out a position against any radical regime that might have emerged in Damascus if Mr. Assad's government fell. In other words, Turkey was already looking at American policy in the region - rightly so - with a skeptical eye.

Now, however, that rationalization has changed, with a direct willingness on Turkey's part to combat ISIS, and I suspect that this is the result of Russia's intervention as much as it is any discontent with Washington.

More importantly, however, our friends at Zero Hedge have come out with an article indicating alleged US willingness to give advanced SAM missiles to "select militant groups":

CIA, Saudis To Give "Select" Syrian Militants Weapons Capable Of Downing Commercial Airliners

Presumably, of course, it isn't really airliners that the Saudis or the CIA want to bring down, but Russian military aircraft, via whatever proxies they have left inside that country. (The problem, of course, is that nasty Russian jamming technology that appears to be in play in Syria) As also noted in the Zero Hedge article, and as most readers here are aware, Britain has shut down flights in the region and other countries, including Russia, appear to be following suit, and that means, for the moment, that "terrorism" of some sort is the agreed upon story.

And if it's terrorism, whether by missiles or bombs, then its a desperation move in a situation that otherwise is going all Moscow's way. What remains to be seen is what Russia's explanation for the sad event is, and Moscow is going to have to play that one, and craft that story, very carefully to avoid escalations of the situation. If, indeed, it was a missile, then as Mr. T.G. suggested to me, Mr. Putin will either downplay, or deflect, attention from that in order to avoid escalations with the West (and pressures for a response at home), until the ISIS situation is addressed completely.

But as I've often warned... if indeed that was the case, then two can play the covert operations game... and the Russians are quite good at it.

See you on the flip side...

11 thoughts on “MORE ON THE DOWNED RUSSIAN AIRLINER”

  1. Device “takes control of rogue drones”. A company in the UK, subsidiary of Italy’s Finmeccanica, the State-owned armaments group, is marketing this defense against enemy or criminal drone use. But this obviously begs the question of just how “defensive” it is. For example, could it be used to take control of an airliner?

  2. “then two can play the covert operations game… and the Russians are quite good at it”

    Not only good but apparently the gloves are coming off. Ivanov was making comments to the effect that Russia has followed international law and protocol but those that don’t won’t be afforded such luxury.

    http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/11/putin-to-pursue-sponsors-of-terrorism.html

    – I’m not sure how much of this is Ivanov’s exact wording but he is very fluent in English.

    “After the information from the black boxes of the fallen plane had been decrypted, there was no doubts that the plane was blown up.”

    “everyone understands that terrorists can’t plan such an attack by themselves without intelligence, isn’t it possible that ISIS had help? They are created by intelligence, and supported and financed by specific countries. Our intelligence services knew all that, like many reasonable people, but have to play by the rules in force in the international arena.”

    “Even by joining the Syrian war, we still continued to play by the rules and even tried with the organizers of all this lawlessness to establish cooperation”

    “And such an act from the “world elites”, in fact, automatically negates some of the earlier rules, which Russia adhered to”

  3. ISIS has been threatening Russia for the past several weeks and they have their supporters in the southern area of Russia already, they also appear to have the means of getting a bomb on board a plane where there was lax security on the ground. Sometimes, just sometimes, the simple answer is the best one. I don’t know if it the correct one yet, but it sure looks like that to me. If they have indeed made these threats against Russia, then I think that explains a lot about why Russia decided to go into Syria in the first place, and it also suggests that there will be more attacks aimed at Russia.

  4. Your confusing Golan Heights with Gaza Roger. Well the Mad Hatters in DC are really in a pickle now the CIA Murder Inc. better have a good cover story to cover their ass. Putin must be preparing the sharpen stakes about now for the impaling party he going to be officiating over the Sini airline crash payback.

    1. This is good news that Putin is going to be there officiating. His performance at the UN was such a breath of fresh air. It’s like an adult takes the stage (not perfect) but none the less an adult capable of reason with truth on his side.

      He’s going to kick butt. I can’t wait.

  5. Well I made it two sentences into the linked RT article about Turkey’s intention to also attack ISIS when I read that they are trying to pin their own false flag attack on the protesters in Ankara on ISIS as some sort of justification.

    ISIS — it’s the perfect boogeyman, hiding under everyone’s bed, able to be invoked whenever peace protesters are slaughtered, whenever you need a McGuffin to overthrow yet another ME nation. Al CIADuh 2.0, with slick green-screens of Nike-clad cisis-actor jihadis and a Madison Avenue press dept.

    Honestly, they aren’t even trying anymore. This garbage is so obvious and so threadbare it makes one wonder where the real effort and the real brainpower is being expended. Because the effort shown here couldn’t light a refrigerator lamp.

    Anyway, the Russian airliner. Whodunit? Honestly, they all did. How’dtheydoit? Bomb or misslie, it doesn’t really make much difference; the fact remains they did it, and we all know they did it, so let’s just all be grown-ups and acknowledge that they did it, and that they are exactly the psychopathic killers we know they indeed are.

    It’s a bit like Ceasar, or JFK. They all stuck a knife in Russia’s back — or if they weren’t directly in on it, you sure know they’d like to be. To paraphrase the Wicked Witch of DC, “At this point, what difference does it make?”

    And now Turkey pops out of the clown car to join the other clowns in the center ring of the ISIS circus. Oh great! Hooray! They can parlay with the French with their aircraft carrier, the US who claims to have killed a new Evil Mastermind or liberated a new batch of innocents every 72 hours like clockwork… As I said, the script is getting stale and this circus is becoming tedious, while real people actually die. Disgusting.

    1. They don’t have to try anymore. You said it yourself in a comment in the N&V’s – they’ve succeeded in creating an entire race of iPeople whose only priorities are sports and sexual adventures balanced by a narrowly self-righteous fanaticism for pre-manufactured social advocacy so that it all “means something”.

      The Brave New World is here. They have what they want – an enormous, chaotic mass of human hormones and instinct made totally malleable by any pre-manufactured digital news story the spin masters can imagine.

  6. It’s becoming obvious that Israel wants Syria’s oil fields in the Gaza strip. So they will probably seize this area in a fight with ISIS and of course be forced to remain there to govern that section of Syria as long as there is oil there to be had. After all they have to stabilize the region from future radicals and the corrupt Assad dictatorship, LOL. Now it won’t look good if only Israel seizes and occupies strategic and valuable Syrian real estate so Turkey will likewise seek to fight ISIS and govern strategic areas of Syria itself, probably industrial areas. It’s only coincidental that these moves will accomplish the same goals that supporting ISIS failed to do. Namely taking Syria out of Russian influence and setting the stage for a move on Iran. A Palestinian state may emerge in another part of Syria, possibly in or near the region Israel seeks to seize. The Kurds will likely become their own country as well. This is probably just a more palatable way of removing Assad and using Russia and ISIS as the excuse for invasion. Now the big question is weather Russia is really in on this scheme from the beginning or if Russian moves in this region forced into this plan B.

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