PUTIN TRANSFORMS ROSCOSMOS INTO STATE-OWNED CORPORATION
In the wake of the recent deals concerning space that were inked between Russia and China, Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree transforming Russia's troubled space agency, Roscosmos, into a state-owned corporation, according to this article shared by Ms. M.W.:
Putin has turned Russia's space agency into a state-run spaceflight corporation
As the article would have it, the concern, at least, on the surface, is to curb the corruption that has plagued the space agency, a holdover from the Cold War:
ussian President Vladimir Putin is dissolving the country's Federal Space Agency, known as Roscosmos, and turning it into a state-run corporation, according to a statement by the Kremlin. That means Roscosmos will transform from a solely government-funded agency into a company that's overseen and partially backed by the government. It allows the organization to pursue the country’s overarching space goals while additionally conducting commercial affairs like other private spaceflight companies. The move is meant to fix an agency that has been plagued by corruption and major financial scandals.
The article also mentions the endless delays that have plagued the completion of RUssia's gigantic new launch facility in Vostochny, Siberia:
The decision to dissolve Roscosmos was approved by Putin in January of this year, as a way to shake up an agency that has been dealing with financial scandals, money troubles, and corruption for years. Construction of Russia's next big launch site, the Vostochny Cosmodrome, has been continuously delayed due to budget troubles. And in 2014, it was revealed that Roscosmos committed financial violations totaling more than $1.8 billion, according to Russia's public spending watchdog agency.
And let's not forget the ever-present "abuse of authority and documents forgery(!)":
Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said the agency's poorly handled finances are also responsible for many of Russia's spacecraft accidents since 2010, including the failure of a Russian Progress resupply ship earlier this year. "We have uncovered acts of fraud, abuse of authority (and) document forgery," said Rogozin, according to the International Business Times. "With such a level of moral decay, one should not be surprised at the high accident rate."
Documents forgery? That opens all sorts of high-octane-speculation-cans-of-worms, one can being the "intentional sabotage" can, but unfortunately, much as I'd like to rehearse the curious string of launch failures, including Russia's Phobos Grunt Mars probe a few years ago (a launch that some in the Russian Defense Minsitry clearly claimed was deliberate sabotage by "radar interference" and "corrupted computer chips": and so on, pointing several fingers in the direction of Houton, Texas)... much as I'd like to rehearse that history and indulge in that sort of high octane speculation. I think the real thrust of this article is quite different.
The article concludes by noting that Mr. Putin's effort may or may not be successful, but it, or something like it, was necessary for the simple reason that Russia has announced large long term and ambitious space goals.
In other words, to understand what is going on, one must put it in that wide geopolitical and economic context implied by the Russo-Chinese space deals, and those very long term goals stated by the Russian(and Chinese) governments, goals which include permanent human colonies on other planets, beginning with our own Moon. Mr Putin's move, let us recall, also occurs in the wake of the US Congress recently passing an "asteroid mining" bill, and thus a move to corporatize Russia's space agency - to make it "compatible" with the emerging space-based economy, and therefore competitive - was a necessity. To his credit, Mr. Putin recognizes that space matters can no long be "business" as usual for the Russian space program. It must modernize, or be left behind, and Russia has no intention of being left behind. As I suggested previously, the buildup of infrastructure in Asia and the massive transport expansion which China and Russia are planning, suggests that a massive terrestrial infrastructure might be being created with one (of many) express purpose being precisely the creation of an infrastructure designed to support a massive expansion of space-based activities and commerce, and eventually colonization. By turning Roscosmos into a state-owned corporation, Mr. Putin may be putting into place the equivalent of a "Dutch East Indies" company, or a British Eats Indies company.
In other words, we're at the beginning of a story, not the end of a story about the winding down of a holdover from the Cold War.
See you on the flip side...
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When one looks at the historical record at how past multi-national corporations operated, they still depended on “states” or “nations” as customers for reasons other than simple trade. Resources were the goals but they also required markets and people. Some were chattel, others were debt-based servants and some were free peoples. These corporate schemes would not have been successful without emigration. Let’s face it, part of the scheme has always been to make emigration look more attractive than remaining home. As many have hinted, by tightly coupling the Russian state to a space faring corporation Putin’s game provides numerous benefits. It could ensure the state has greater leverage in the outcome of space-based activities. It thins the veil of secrecy between the state sponsor and corporation to the hard data represented by intellectual property rights while providing them some control over how the data is released. BUT it also accounts for the human element. It is a way, for good and bad, to ensure the human assets of a nation are remembered in an equitable fashion and harnessed for emigration to new worlds and markets when the time comes. As hinted by the words good and bad, this could bode well or ill for the citizens of Russia in the future.
In summary, I think it is a maneuver for more reasons than just the obvious. I think it is strategic: a part of a long term colonization strategy whose goal is to reduce the implementation time and maintain control over the result. I am curious to see how other nations will respond to this maneuver. If this becomes a trend the space race will truly have begun in earnest!
Time to adjust to the new normal.
As I was writing, when the virtual bot trumped reality.
Jan 5, 6:13 PM
T.S. Eliot observed that the culture system of his time ever more distant than the ideal model that it represented in the past. In fact, as he projected forward in time he saw that the culture was becoming virtually non-existent! Today, I see the culture transcending into a politics of injustice. This has manifested itself into an in-your-face inequality of/that’s just the way it is; in reality, however, it is how they have purposely engineered them.
I for one, don’t want to see this Corporate State Culture carried on into the cosmos…
…This corporatized culture is corrupting everything it touches, as if Midas were Death himself. This deadly plague upon the living of Earth must be terminated here, before this culture, symbolized by their patented terminators seeds, spread outward into the cosmos.
…That Russia is even remotely mirroring the signature Corporate/State alliance is disheartening. I don’t want to see the only contest between the BRISCA view of space exploration/development and that of the WEST as seeing who makes the best propaganda product[as contrived as a detergent testimonial]…
Suffering is structurally imposed; it’s preventable.
The model for exploration/development in space and living outside Earth should be one of commonance. WE are hard-wired to cooperate and participate in the commons. It prods us to deconstruct the political culture that the Market/State duopoly demands. The inner wildness of man has increasingly come under control. The individual is able to realize himself only if the whole can realize itself…
…Why not imagine a new type of galactic commons that could transcend the parochial self-serving interest of the Corporate/State and their concern commercial/market over our ecological and/or civic interests?
The future is not some place we are going; but one we are creating.
This is what I wrote when bot-ted out by putting quotation marks around the word culture.
Well I tired the reply to adjust[if needed].
There is more than one way to skin a stinking copyright bot.
The problem is the straight-jacketed copyrights snapped upon our information, via Hollywooded monopolies.
Information wants to be free;
Not on the auction blocks corporate masters.
Somewhat off topic; but on the subject of what happens when the State and Corporations work hand in glove:
Monsanto’s GMOs and weed killers are intended by its founders to kill off us useless eaters.
Article can be accessed below.
http://william engdahl.com/
or
http://journal-neo.org/2016/01/03/victory-in-paris-vs-monsanto-gmo-cabal/
Also when States and Corporations join hands…
Bail-Ins begin:
http://ellenbrown.com/
not off topic at all
how long before putin comes around to mr global’s point of view on gmo’s as well as anthropogenic climate change.
So far Putin hasn’t been replaced by anyone, including a double.
Putin goes mole whacking.
Ohh, I almost always type my stuff out in notepad first but didn’t this time, sigh.
For Goshawk and others; IMO, the reason why Putin told the world is because they are serious about it.
Why are they serious about it? B R I C S A
Why should Brazil or South Africa care about ROSCOSMOS? S W I F T
What have we learned from the good doctor about securing your own international financial clearing house? 4 words; WEAPONIZED SPACE-BASED ASSETS
And if your country has a well-known and dubious international reputation with financial corruption; how successful will you be in convincing the world to do banking with you if the headquarters for the operation is ROSCOSMOS as we know it today?
8thdegreeofj, I agree that Russia and others need to start up a separate banking and transaction ‘system’, if only to avoid potential financial ‘exclusion’ threats. Basically, it is the same type of reason Russia built the GLONASS satellite system, Europe is building the Galileo satellite system, etc., for ‘redundant’ global positioning. No one wants to be subservient to someone with questionable motives.
However, I disagree with the usefulness of weaponizing orbiting space assets (satellites). Basically, anything in a fixed orbit is a sitting duck, defensive weapons or not. I can think of a dozen ways to ‘neutralize’ a satellite, half of which can look ‘natural’.
Militarily, satellites serve as ‘tripwires’. If one or two important satellites ‘go dark’, it is the same effect as taking out a carrier. Both sides know this. So, satellites are basically ‘safe’ until one side decides to go-for-broke. I would include major data-relay satellites as part of this ‘doctrine’…
goshawks, does the tripwire concept hold when satellites go dark by natural looking means?
previous to reading up on doc and thermobaric looking stuff this year, it had not occurred to me that the covert wars were going at the level they are including in first world countries. i had always assumed that domestic natural looking catastrophes were domestically produced terror events. i’d read about blackwater in new orleans assaulting everyone including and especially local law enforcement. it only made sense when the pivotal levees were breeched inexplicably that blackwater folk were seen out there setting charges that were blamed for flooding the lower 9th ward.
so now and then i gotta wonder how often such gladio’s are not domestic. and then i get to thinking how the intel services are and have been forever all tied in and serving each other to realize it’s all domestic and international at the same time.
ZDB, on “does the tripwire concept hold when satellites go dark by natural looking means,” I think it depends on the circumstance. Every ‘great power’ has intelligence sources within the other countries. If it is a ‘one off’ darkening while all other intelligence says the other powers are being ‘peaceful’, I suspect that concerns are just ratcheted-up a peg or two. If it is a ‘one off’ darkening while some other intelligence says another power is preparing for a conflict, I suspect that covers come off the missile silos.
It is a little like the meteor shower that registered on Soviet radar like incoming ICBM warheads. With little time to spare, intelligence types had to advise whether this looked like a ‘decapitation strike’ or not. Fortunately, it was deemed unlikely to be a strike, and the planet avoided a nuclear catastrophe. I imagine it looked/felt like that scene in “War Games” where onlookers had to decide whether to sit and ‘take’ a likely-computer-generated strike or respond to it as a real threat. High drama…
My biggest concern is whether there are pre-planted ‘handlers’ on either side of the decision-making, set to make the ‘show’ go-on as planned. I remember when the mountaintop radar crew radioed-in that a large group of aircraft were coming-in from the NW ocean towards Pearl Harbor. The duty officer told them not to worry about it, because there was a group of B-17s due to arrive. (It was a small group of B-17s, and they would have been coming in from the east. As an aside, this reminds me of the ‘exercise’ scenario used for confusion on 9/11.) I have always wondered whether this duty officer was a ‘just-in-case’ handler…
Speaking of ‘duty officers’: From “The Shadow Factory: The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 to the Eavesdropping on America” by James Bamford.
p19: “Doug Miller, one of three FBI employees at Alec Station [CIA’s New Headquarters Building, Room 1W01], took one look at the [terrorist Midhdhar’s Saudi passport and U.S. visa] faxes and became instantly alarmed.” Then, “At 9:30 a.m., Miller started pecking out a message to alert his superiors at FBI headquarters, who could then put Midhdhar on a watch list to bar him from entry.”
“But inexplicably, the message – known as a Central Intelligence Report (CIR) – was spiked by his CIA boss, Tom Wilshire, the deputy chief of Alec Station.” Then, “There was no reason to kill the message.”
p20: “Having forbidden Miller and Rossini [his FBI colleague] from notifying their headquarters about Midhdhar’s planned travel to the U.S., the CIA then proceeded to lose Midhdhar and Hazmi when they took off for a brief visit to Bangkok, en route to the U.S.”
p26: “Now, Alec Station definitely knew that one and possibly two of the suspected terrorists linked to bin Laden’s Yemen ops center had just flown to California following what appeared to be a terrorist summit. Still, Tom Wilshire never notified the FBI. Nor were any of the three FBI agents inside Alec Station even alerted to the cables.”
p27: “Overly concerned about being accused of domestic eavesdropping, [NSA director General Mike] Hayden made a drastic decision. He secretly pulled the plug on intercepting all international communications to and from the U.S., even those involving terrorism. The ban apparently went even so far as to not reveal the fact that suspected terrorists were present in the U.S.”
p31: “It [‘Hayden’s decision to secretly turn a deaf ear to nearly all international communications entering and leaving the U.S. – even when they involved known terrorists within the country’] would also be an area completely unexplored by the 9/11 Commission, which, astonishingly, virtually ignored the NSA in its investigation.”
Mr. Putin recognizes that terrestrial matters can no longer be business as usual for the Russian interests. He must play the globalist game, or be left out when the time comes to determine who is going to be in the game. Based on my observations Mr. Putin has no intention of allowing Russia to be left out when the time comes to, as WalkingDead put it, Rule the planet from the high ground. As Dr. Ferrell also noted, we are at the beginning of this story, I agree. Consider this by WalkingDead when he wrote, Colonizing space will require the cooperation of the entire planet and its resources. Given the current geopolitical situation, it just doesn’t seem feasible or economically doable by bankrupt governments at odds with each other.
So, now the more interesting questions, to me, are 1) how are they to pay the bill in order get to into space in a meaningful way, and 2) will the hoi polloi be included? First, look at the globalists plans to rule the world through their climate change treaty. C.W. Monckton Viscount of Brenchley hired a legal adviser to examine whether the language in the climate treaty document would lead to some sort of totalitarian government rule. He claims the answer given to him was it is ten times worse than a simple totalitarian rule. Now, regardless of whether that story is true, and regardless of where one stands on the climate-change theory espoused by 97% of all scientist, the more interesting thing, to me, is to observe how adept Mr. Putin has become at inserting Russia’s interest into the globalist’s game when considering Mr. Putin’s recent actions.
Prior to COP21, the recent global climate change conference held in Paris, Mr. Putin was a strong climate change denier as evidenced by this recent story appearing on October, 29, 2015 in The Daily Caller. Russian President Vladimir Putin believes global warming is a fraud, a plot to keep Russia from using its vast oil and natural gas reserves. Now, consider Mr. Putin’s geopolitical pivot just a few days later, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 – Putin Reverses Position on Global Warming, Backs UN Climate-change Agreement, appearing in the NewAmerican.
Regardless of whether politicians, like Barrack Obama, or Vladimir Putin, or any other politician for this matter, truly believes in global warming, cooling, or climate-change, or what not, the treaty can be utilized as a vehicle for global governance in the form of greater regulatory schemes, and that is telling because it is likely that greater and more treacherous schemes are likely to come in the future. So, regardless of what side of the issue anyone takes regarding climate change there are three questions we must ask, 1) do you think the holi polloi will pay for the whole thing? 2) will the holi polli get to go along for the ride? And lastly, 3) who is most likely to get the last laugh?
Mr. Putin recognizes that terrestrial matters can no longer be business as usual for the Russian interests. He must play the globalist’s game, or be left out when the time comes to determine who is going to be in the game. Based on my observations Mr. Putin has no intention of allowing Russia to be left out when the time comes to, as WalkingDead put it, Rule the planet from the high ground. As Dr. Ferrell also noted, we are at the beginning of this story, I agree. Consider this by WalkingDead when he wrote, Colonizing space will require the cooperation of the entire planet and its resources. Given the current geopolitical situation, it just doesn’t seem feasible or economically doable by bankrupt governments at odds with each other.
So, now the more interesting questions, to me, are 1) how are they to pay the bill in order get to into space in a meaningful way, and 2) will the hoi polloi be included? First, look at the globalists plans to rule the world through their climate change treaty. C.W. Monckton Viscount of Brenchley hired a legal adviser to examine whether the language in the climate treaty document would lead to some sort of totalitarian government rule. He claims the answer given to him was it is ten times worse than a simple totalitarian rule. Now, regardless of whether that story is true, and regardless of where one stands on the climate-change theory espoused by 97% of all scientist, the more interesting thing, to me, is to observe how adept Mr. Putin has become at inserting Russia’s interest into the globalist’s game when considering Mr. Putin’s recent actions.
Prior to COP21, the recent global climate change conference held in Paris, Mr. Putin was a strong climate change denier as evidenced by this recent story appearing on October, 29, 2015 in The Daily Caller. Russian President Vladimir Putin believes global warming is a fraud, a plot to keep Russia from using its vast oil and natural gas reserves. Now, consider Mr. Putin’s geopolitical pivot just a few days later, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 – Putin Reverses Position on Global Warming, Backs UN Climate-change Agreement, appearing in the NewAmerican.
Regardless of whether politicians, like Barrack Obama, or Vladimir Putin, or any other politician for this matter, truly believes in global warming, cooling, or climate-change, or what not, the treaty can be utilized as a vehicle for global governance in the form of greater regulatory schemes, and that is telling because it is likely that greater and more treacherous schemes are likely to come in the future. So, regardless of what side of the issue anyone takes regarding climate change there are three questions we must ask, 1) do you think the holi polloi will pay for the whole thing? 2) will the holi polli get to go along for the ride? And lastly, 3) who is most likely to get the last laugh?
Mr. Putin recognizes that terrestrial matters can no long be business as usual for the Russian interests. He must play the globalist game, or be left out when the time comes as to who is going to be ‘in the game’, and Mr. Putin has no intention of allowing Russia to be left out when the time comes to, as WalkingDead put it, “Rule the planet from the high ground”.
The more interesting story here is how adept Mr. Putin has become at inserting Russia’s interest into the globalists game. Let’s step back a bit and consider the globalists plans to rule the world through their climate change treaty. C.W. Monckton Viscount of Brenchley hired a legal adviser to examine whether the language in the climate treaty document would lead to some sort of totalitarian government rule. He claims the answer given to him was to the affect that “It is ten times worse” than simple totalitarian rule. Now, regardless of whether that story is true, and regardless of where one lands on the climate-change theory espoused by “97% of all scientist” the more interesting thing, to me, is to take note of Mr. Putin’s recent actions.
Prior to COP21, the recent ‘global’ climate change conference held in Paris, Mr. Putin was a strong climate change ‘denier’ as evidenced by this recent story on October, 29, 2015 in The Daily Caller (and many other places) . “Russian President Vladimir Putin believes global warming is a “fraud” a plot to keep Russia from using its vast oil and natural gas reserves.” http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/29/russias-putin-says-global-warming-is-a-fraud/
Now, consider Mr. Putin’s geopolitical pivot just a few days later. Tuesday, 15 December 2015 – “Putin Reverses Position on Global Warming, Backs UN Climate-change Agreement” in the NewAmerican (and many other places). http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/22149-putin-reverses-position-on-global-warming-backs-un-climate-change-agreement
Regardless of whether politicians like Barrack Obama, or Vladimir Putin, or any other politician truly believes in global warming or not, they are utilizing it as a vehicle for global governance in the form of greater regulatory schemes, because greater and more treacherous schemes are likely to come in the future. So, regardless of what side of the issue you take, who is likely to get the ‘last laugh’?
nidster. while monckton is spot on in so many aspects, he so incredibly easy to mock out of all circles. who made this guy? what is that called. he’s like an inverted judas goat. instead of leading the sheep to lies and into the slaughter house, it’s repels the sheep from the truth and their own safety.
how many of the sheep stand a chance of believing anything monckton says regardless of how obvious that truth is?
meanwhile, putin can take or leave whatever meme he wants. and he will do so when paid properly. perhaps they upped his price and now he feels paid properly?
as long as the anthropogenic global warming / climate change meme sells well enough, they’ll keep selling it. and using it to lock down more globalist leverage. i’m guessing it’s a mistake to count putin as an antiglobalist.
btw, was talking to a confirmed anti conspiracy theory human (aka sheeple) the other day and the subject of january rain came up. everyone, even sheeple are fed up with rain in january north of 40 north latitude.
i commiserated and chimed in how they oughta be able to run the weather we want by now. i remembered how 30 or 40 years ago a few flight lines out west made a million or so a year seeding a few clouds – mostly for ski resorts. and that now water districts out west have gotten into the act on the order of billions of dollars and hundreds if not thousands of planes and for that kinda money, they oughta be able to do more than complain about weather’s unpredictability. we left it there amicably with me a bit surprised the conversation went as well as it did. i was careful to leave out theory. i also did not go into detail about familiarity with the companies who make the nozzles for spraying chemtrails nor the recent national legislation making it legal to use drones to spray…
Oops I used quotes?
Who knows? Will the post ever see the light of day?
Under Moderation again?
I’m not doing it over.
I’ll just close with what I used in the long disappeared post…?
The future is not some place we are going; but one we are creating
No profanity or hate speech.
Unknown what tripped it?
Why try again and again rewriting, trying to dodge the unseen, unaccountable censorious bot.
Robert, I used some quotation marks as well as 2 links in my last post, and it is also under moderation. I will wait it out to see if it appears. If not, I can repost without too much effort. People can look up the links on their own, if they care to do so.
I put one word in quotes:
culture.
The censorious bot is against the culture
of the living.
Ack! I also spent some quality time forming my comment on this post and still being moderated hours later. Hope they all belch out of the system before too long…
I’ll second that.
rb and all,
that’s been the case for me with links for awhile. when i type more than ten lines I cut (as in cut and paste with no paste) everything i’ve written about every 10 lines. if i type 100 lines, i’ve cut it about 9 times. then when i post, I have a copy saved in my notepad in case it moderates out. if i post it twice and still no success, i cut and paste it one more time, cut out the questionable areas and repost. it’s always posted that time. then maybe i’ll write the links or questionable areas in using some euphemism or similarity. good luck
goshawks and walking dead,
as usual. agreed. makes me wonder all the more what’s the point of telling us this now.
I once used that strategy and it works.
Back to the drawing board.
That’s a relief I thought it was just me.
T.S Eliot observed that the culture system of his time is becoming ever more distant from the ideal model that it represented in the past. In fact, as he projected forward in time he saw culture as becoming virtually non-existent. Today it has become a politics of injustice. This inequality is not how things are; it is how they have made them.
I for one don’t want to see that “culture”[if it can be called that in jest], carried into the cosmos.
This Private Power that is corrupting everything it touches as if Midas were death itself, MUST be terminated here on Earth. A TPP constitution moving onward & outward into the cosmos is unacceptable. That Russia is even shadowing a “public Private Partnership is disheartening. I don’t want to see the only contest between the BRICSA view of exploration into the Cosmos and that of the WEST as one of who makes the best propaganda product[as contrived as a detergent commercial testimonial].
Suffering is structurally imposed; it’s preventable.
The model for exploration into space and living outside Earth should be one of commonance. WE are hard-wired to cooperate and participate in the commons. It prods us to deconstruct political culture and consciousness that the Market/State duopoly demands. The inner wildness of man has increasingly come under control. The individual is able to realize himself only if the whole can realize itself. Why not imagine new types of galatic commons that could transcend the parochial, self-serving interest of National governments and their concern for commercial interests over ecological or civic interest.
The future is not some place we are going; but one we are creating.
sounds similar to how the u.n. was sold.
not that i disagree.
what i think i’m learning is that mr global feels anything and everything can be and should be co-opted. at least by mr global
I can’t help but think of all the positive political capital that Putin has built up in the last few years..
Goshawk, just thinking out loud here; If there is no real intention to clear out ROSCOSMOS at all then why go public with it? Why tell the world? This would surely damage their surging reputation on the international stage when it all never happens.. That would be bucking their own trend and it doesn’t feel right.
Is anyone else thinking about Dr Farrell’s thoughts on the necessary ingredients needed to establish a viable alternative/competitor to SWIFT?
If I recall correctly he indicated that space-based assets are absolutely essential if the BRICSA nations want to have their own international clearing system. Followed (or preceded) closely by; weaponized spaced-based assets to protect it.
I have a feeling like ROSCOSMOS is being brought in line with long-term BRICSA objectives.
Russia is the biggest and most powerful entity in the group and so it makes basic sense for the future space-based financial system to be based there. But could you (or other BRICSA members) imagine doing business TODAY with their new international clearing house knowing full well of Putin’s admission(s) as to the extent of the ‘moral decay’?
Probably ‘not doing business today’ would be the general feeling.
So we might be looking at the very beginning of the next Russian “save our reputation” campaign but ultimately through a BRICSA lens.
This would theoretically necessitate a years-long effort to change people’s first Russian financial thoughts of “too corrupt” to “accountable, secure & transparent”.
At some point China may have to run with this strategy too as their brand of corruption is practically a kitchen table subject outside of China..
in agreement with more and more of what i see here 8th degree.
my only adder is that even including all this being true, my guess is that it’s all only one more layer of psyop in all the layers of psyops. the level of influence mr global shows as he works his players like putin obusha and the rest make me wonder why all the positive spin on russia and putin and all? and when this is done what’s next? there’s a definite progression (or more likely regression) intended here. mr global hasn’t suffered what a whole lot of what we’d call surprises nor set backs in the shock doctrine and economic hitman work.
so what’s next?
“That means Roscosmos will transform from a solely government-funded agency into a company that’s overseen and partially backed by the government.”
Forgive me, but I don’t see much difference. The Russian government will still remain the only paymaster, as far as I can discern.
I would see this move as more of a justification for the replacement of management personnel. Putin may doubt the ultimate-loyalty of current higher-ups, especially if they are oligarch-influenced. A major (cosmetic) restructuring might be the excuse to clean-sweep ‘suspect’ types and install known-loyal people. A way-to-do-it without giving the oligarchs any excuse for complaint…
‘The Saker’ once-said in an article:
“As I have said it many times, there is a fight to the death going on between the ‘Putin people’ (Eurasian Sovereignists) and the pro-Western ‘big money’ (Atlantic Integrationists).”
As soon as I see a real picture of the earth , I will start taking these space memes more seriously , until then it’s all kabuki theatre so the elites can hijack the world
This now brings up Never A Straight Answer who really runs that organization. And who’s their real paymaster and who’s ends are they serving. We see both government and private space technologies tied to vertical spaceships concept instead of horizontal spherical saucer design spacecraft. Which might be easier and safer and more economical to use. It’s long overdue that NASA be reorganized and put on a sound budget instead of being at the mercy of the clowns that pass themselves as our government puppets to the Wizards of Oz behind the curtains.
One must applaud Mr. Putin for his efforts to reduce corruption within his nation, especially within his space agency. However, all the hype about space mining, moon bases, and permanent bases on other celestial bodies still remains a pipe dream until several huge world wide problems are dealt with first.
There is the ongoing conflict in the Middle East threatening to go global due to the belligerence of the West and their NWO backers. There are the global financial issues with the huge exposure of major banks to worthless derivatives worldwide. There are the technological and cost issues of attempting this with essentially 1950’s technology and gigantic fireworks as launch vehicles. We could even postulate that there may be “others” out there who might be already there and mining the rings of Saturn who just might take offense that we are inviting ourselves to what they might consider their party. If, in fact, it turns out to be private corporations in a breakaway group from this planet doing this with a secret space program, how are they going to react? This list could go on.
There is also the possibility that this is just another psy op by intelligence to keep our attention focused elsewhere while plans for world domination proceed apace.
I’m sorry, but I just don’t see any of this happening given the current problems facing the Earth and her inhabitants. Colonizing space will require the cooperation of the entire planet and its resources. Given the current geopolitical situation, it just doesn’t seem feasible or economically doable by bankrupt governments at odds with each other.
However, global corporations, private banks and their owners, with more money than God, having stolen it from the rest of the population with their Ponzi scheme fiat currency, fraud, market manipulations, etc. might be able to accomplish this and maybe they already have, who knows. This breakaway group stands apart from the rest of humanity, and sharing just isn’t in the plan, or so it would seem.
Ruling the planet from the high ground seems a more likely scenario.
I see this current financial crisis as an engineered construct and cover for a few financial families to steel the remaining assets and wealth of the rest of the planet. The Middle East conflict is a public and political distraction to keep the focus off their theft. The conflict can also be escalated into a world war if enough of the public wakes up to the distraction and starts focusing and acting to rectify their crimes. Just like WWII, as the world masses are murdered or forced to apply all their efforts and resources to merely surviving the conflict, these families will be quietly buying up all the assets from their bombed out and bankrupted new vassels.
I agree Roger, which is why I don’t see any of this talk of mining space benefiting anyone but the elite. No one else can afford, it including all the bankrupt governments. It’s the future they foresee and why it is the common meme in all the syfy movies where the private corporations control space.