The strangeness around the recent Iranian "hostage"( event appears to be growing almost daily. You'll recall that in last Thursday's News and Views I speculated on the possibility that perhaps the whole thing was some covert operation gone wrong, or intercepted, by the Iranian government and military, or even that perhaps it was a covert operation deliberately designed to be intercepted by the Iranians. Whichever the case may have been, Tehran wisely decided not to play the "world war three brinksmanship game," and quickly released the captives (which, you'll note, hardly makes the incident a "hostage" incident as it has been reported in the west). Subsequently, of course, came the story from Tehran, repeated by Russia's Novorossiya, that an ISIS commander was on board one of the US Navy riverboats. Whatever the truth or lack thereof on that score may be(and I'm personally inclined for the present to be skeptical of that claim), the story does appear to have the kernel of truth to it.

In that context, then, consider this interesting story from The Saker shared by Mr. D.K.:

Nuland meets Surkov to warn about imminent NATO attack by Scott

Now, consider carefully the chain of argument here:

On Friday January 15th, 2016 less than 24 hours after the meeting between Sergey Lavrov and John Kerry in Zurich on January 20, 2016 was announced, and just a day before the sanctions on Iran were scheduled to be lifted, a plane carrying Victoria Nuland, an Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, took a sudden turn on its way from Vilnius to Berlin and landed on a Russian airbase near Kaliningrad. Earlier Nuland out of blue called Kremlin and urgently demanded that president Putin meet with her personally. Putin refused to see her, but sent his “influential” assistant Surkov to see what she wanted.

Surkov had arrived at Kaliningrad on Thursday January 14th. Nuland’s plane landed on the military base near Kaliningrad on Friday January 15th. Surkov and Nuland had a four hour talk behind closed doors. No one knows what exactly they talked about. The officially released version states that they talked about the implementation of the Minsk II agreement, the changes in Ukraine’s constitution, and the upcoming elections in Donetsk and Lugansk People’s republics.

Unofficial versions vary.

It’s being reported by some experts from the French AgoraVox who sincerely think that Nuland came to “prevent an inevitable NATO strike on Russia,” and that she came in attempt to “prevent world war.”

According to the witnesses of Nuland’s arrival, she was in and “extremely agitated” state of mind. She was repeating over and over: “War is coming! War is at our gates!” She was also heard saying that Russia “has not fulfilled its promises,” and now “everybody is going to pay for this.”
Also being reported that she has been very agitated recently because Barack Obama is “cleaning” the White House and that she herself might be on a chopping block.

The same day, Friday January 15th at 16:20PM Putin held an emergency briefing session with permanent members of the Security Council in his Novo-Ogaryovo residence.

Taking part in the meeting were Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, Speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matviyenko, Speaker of the State Duma Sergei Naryshkin, Secretary of the Security Council Nikolai Patrushev, Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, Director of the Federal Security Service Alexander Bortnikov, Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service Mikhail Fradkov, Deputy Secretary of the Security Council Rashid Nurgaliyev, and permanent member of the Security Council Boris Gryzlov.

So, before proceeding, note what we have: Victoria "F*** the EU" Nuland, in all her ladylike demeanor and diction, is alleged to have made a sudden detour to Kaliningrad - that's the former Koenigsberg, East Prussia by the way - where she requested to see President Putin himself, who presumably was supposed to drop everything, quit running Russia, and rush to be by Victoria's side. On top of this, she apparently came to warn archenemy Russia that NATO was planning a strike against Russia. Meanwhile, President Putin is in conference with just about every important minister in his security council. Subject? unknown.

Now I don't for a moment believe that NATO itself was plotting any such thing. I don't see any anti-Russian war fever in the major NATO capitals, not in Rome, not in Paris, Madrid, or even in Berlin, where Mama Merkel's domestic and foreign policies seem not only to be increasingly surreal but increasingly detached from Germans themselves, (who, incidentally, appear to be less free to speak their own mind in their own country than the waves of refugees Mama Merkel has inundated that country with). But I have no doubt that there are enough nuts in NATO, and the West, for that matter, that would contemplate such insanity, and that even Victoria "F*** the EU" Nuland was worried about it.

To continue with The Saker's take on things:

What had propelled Vikki Nuland, a Washington unelected apparatchik, whose life long efforts are universally understood as being directed towards the destruction of Russia, what propelled her to rush to warn Russia about the alleged imminent NATO strike? Shouldn’t she keep her mouth shut until the happy day of the NATO nukes taking a flight into the country that Nuland hates with so much vigor?

To find an answer to this question we have to go way way back.

On Tuesday January 12th, 2016 CNN first reported Jane Psaki’s announcement about “Iran holding 10 US sailors.”

And here's where the analysis and speculation gets interesting:

Some people now say that the boats were on a suicide mission, willingly or unwillingly. There are credible reports of an Israeli submarine positioned nearby that was allegedly ready to sink the vessels while in Iranian waters, as a prerequisite for a political fury of sanctions and armed whatnots against Iran over an “attack on the US vessels.”

Had the marines understood what their fate might be we don’t know. However, the Iranians say that the US marines cried while being detained, that’s how scared they were, until they were told that they won’t be killed, tortured, or imprisoned, as they knew the US would have done to Iranians if the situation was somehow reversed.

Somebody must had warned Iranians about this false flag attack. Could it be someone from the US Navy? From NATO? Just like the American diplomat working in Moscow warned about the plot to kill the President of Russia in March 2015. According to the plan Putin was supposed to be killed on a helicopter. Remember, The Economist magazine’s “mysterious” cover for 2015? Putin in black and white and, wearing sunglasses and an orange helicopter in front of him? Orange as in “orange revolution.” Because, as we all know, they are all geniuses over there, and we are just country pumpkins. That was it. Fifth columnists, NGO grant eaters, and other liberal rats were running around the Kremlin with cameras because they were told to watch service helicopters with a promise that something big was about to happen.

An American diplomat reported this plan to the Russia’s authorities and the plan was foiled. Rumor has it, the guy moved to Crimea and got baptized in the Russian Orthodox Church. It’s a beautiful ceremony, I must admit, and to experience it is worth saving the life of a president. (EMphasis added)

So, add to this mix (1) a foiled assassination plot against President Putin, (2) which was caused by a defection of an American diplomat (which, if true, raises yet another problem, for when was this reported in the western media, and by whom?), (3) some sort of possible covert operation which, on The Saker's reading, was a suicide mission cut short by the Iranians to the apparent relief of the American sailors, and (4) an Israeli submarine was in the area.

It's that Israeli submarine that prompts a question: was this an actual "designed and built in Israel" submarine, or was it one of those special Dolphin class U-Boats built for Israel in (you guessed it) Germany, which can launch nuclear cruise missiles underwater. (And why is Germany even building such things?)

Now, I have to agree with The Saker here, for as I implied in last Thursday's News and Views, someone had to have warned the Iranians, and since the incident involved the US Navy and some probable covert operation, the warning most likely  came from within the American command structure. After all, Israel is implacably worried about an Iranian nuclear bomb and is unlikely to warn their "most favorite enemy" about such an operation.

So what's my high octane speculation here?

Well, first of all, the whole thing reeks of some "third player" involved in the mix, for if warnings are coming to Russia and Iran from inside the US command structure and Nuland herself no less, then someone and something else is an actor in the mix, and to my nose, it smells a lot like that Fascist International I've spent so much time writing and warning about. It's that Israeli, possibly German-built, submarine supposedly in the area that smells a bit too conventient.

But more importantly than any speculations about possible third players, are the indications of warnings coming from within the American command apparatus itself, both to Tehran, and to Moscow. This, to my mind, is an indicator that the deep devision - factional infighting I've been calling it for a number of years - within the American deep state is now deepening and widening. In this context, recall that RT article from a few weeks ago, that intimated that the Russian government is having difficulty identifying just who is really in charge in Washington. Recall, also, Sergei Glazyev's remark that Russia's main problem was not the Nazis in Kiev, but the Nazis in Washington.

What does all of this high octane speculation portend? If my belief that a covert op was under way, then the most recent Iranian "hostage" crisis means we can expect that this is not the end of such incidents, but their beginning.

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. LSM on January 25, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    “Mama Merkel’s domestic and foreign policies seem not only to be increasingly surreal but increasingly detached from Germans themselves, (who, incidentally, appear to be less free to speak their own mind in their own country than the waves of refugees Mama Merkel has inundated that country with)”

    wonder of wonders!- this twit (she/her administration has proved to be nothing else than a collective marionette) finally publicaly admitted in a past interview regarding the refugees (brace yourself for this): “we made a mistake”- huh?-

    GOSH!!!- but there has been nothing undertaken by the German Administration since then to curb the sexual harrassment of women who initially did the clean-up work in the camps (finally replaced by men with attack dogs in waiting) and the increasing violence on German streets from the “poor” refugees who continue to multiply-

    when will people finally wake up to the fact most of these refugees are sleepers waiting for a chance to pounce on western society?-

    so why is Germany among many other European nations tolerating this?-

    there has to be a much more sinister force behind this-

    Larry in Germany

  2. goshawks on January 25, 2016 at 12:28 am

    Regarding ‘navies’, I just ran across this 2013 article. Not sure where to put it. I’ll put the url in a sub-post in case it disappears…

    It ties together the nuclear ‘hit’ in Syria with retaliation for the sinking of an Israeli sub by the Syrian navy… (If anyone has any more on this story, please elaborate.)

    “A story out of Syria claiming it sunk a German built nuclear armed [Dolphin] submarine operated by the government of Israel has not only been partially confirmed, but that a fully confirmed nuclear attack on Syria is now believed to have been Israeli retaliation for that sinking.

    It is reported that the Israeli Dolphin submarine, a German built diesel/electric craft, was attacked and sunk by a Syrian Navy torpedo boat at 2:30 AM, May 2, 2013 while at a depth of 150 meters. Prior to the sinking, a ship operated by Germany’s intelligence services had been in the area.

    After the reported, or should we say ‘unreported’ sinking of the Israeli submarine and the equally ‘unreported’ nuclear attack on Syria, a large contingent of Russian naval vessels moved into area.

    Evidence is piling up, backing this scenario as one where Russia was forced to use its military capabilities to stabilize the region and defuse a wider conflict.

    The video analysis of the nuclear attack, two days after the reported sinking, is conclusive.

    What had been in question was the ‘why?’ There was no evidence that Syria had a target that would justify the risk of Israel using a nuclear weapon. Initial assumptions were that Syria may have had an underground nuclear facility but that proved to be groundless.

    What drove Israel then?

    Now, we may well have the answer.”

    • goshawks on January 25, 2016 at 12:29 am

      liveleak dot com/view?i=6bb_1371703810

    • goshawks on January 25, 2016 at 12:32 am

      goshawks – Jan 25, 2016 at 12:28 am: “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” I’ll keep a lookout and report if it survives. And do a paragraph-by-paragraph repost if it doesn’t.

    • goshawks on January 25, 2016 at 1:02 am

      Hmmm. Looks like the above was ‘re-upped’ from here:

      veteranstoday dot com/2013/05/25/did-syria-sink-an-israeli-submarine/

      • Robert Barricklow on January 25, 2016 at 1:36 pm

        Thanks for the link.

    • goshawks on January 25, 2016 at 4:59 pm

      My ‘moderated’ post on sunk Israeli sub and revenge nuclear strike on Syria (2013) is now up. Enjoy.

      • Robert Barricklow on January 28, 2016 at 6:21 pm

        These moderated posts have puzzled me.
        I wonder if this is associate with[CCM], Commercial Content Moderation? Some 100,000 people around the world perform such work for social media and digital entertainment companies. Until recently it was relatively secret work, hidden by employers reluctant to reveal trade practices and disturb social media’s attractive appearance of direct, spontaneous interpersonal communication; CCM workers are frequently bound by non-disclosure agreements.

        • Robert Barricklow on January 28, 2016 at 7:54 pm

          Some aspects of CCM can be automated- for example the identification of text strings or even videos showing large expanses of skin, and there are increasing efforts to harness sophisticated artificial intelligences in identification of problem material. For the moment, though, human judgements are indispensable. and digital capital strives to cheapen the price of this cognitive and affective labor by the same offshoring process through which industrial capital slashed costs of factory work.

  3. zendogbreath on January 25, 2016 at 12:10 am

    i sent this to doc a few hours ago. please take a look all the way through. sorry i don’t do excerpts.

    after reading this and previous articles and discussions here and elsewhere, i figure we all know that the saudis are bailing on aramco. they’ve offered their crown and its jewels up for sale. given oil prices, whatever they get for it will be cheap. at the same time, they’re suiciding themselves and every other oil dependent player by pumping way beyond reason. maybe wayne madsen is right and they cannot shut down their pumps. maybe not. doesn’t much matter. the oil industry is dying convulsively and crushing the rest of the world economy faster than the money printers desire.

    unless of course the money printers are in on the whole thing. after all rockefeller et al are bailing from their oil holdings too. it seems renewable energy investments are all the rage suddenly. so why do all these players suddenly short their own golden geese? same reason they run oil prices down to naught. to eliminate competition. to shake out smaller players. even the smallest of the biggest players. when done, they will be much closer to monopoly than they are now. (surprising that anyone could get any closer to monopoly than they are now.)

    so while the saudis are selling their farm and wildly buying farmland in the draught distressed US for pennies on the dollar (can you say geoengineered draught?) in soon to be even more worthless US petrodoallars they also are in such a rush as to openly do stupider and more belligerent thangs like bomb neighbors, finance tarrists and even send lone crazed scapegoat patsies er killers to the US to gun down disabled SanBernadinans.

    meanwhile, the israeli’s get wilder and more brazen and overt in dancing their US puppets on strings. it’s almost like the msm wants joe sixpack to believe those crazy israeli’s and saudi’s are at it again. oh my just when we were getting used to cheap gas prices. wonder what’d happen to oil markets if the ME went a little wild for a day or month or two. right after oil went from 40 to 20/barrell? can anyone say 250/barrell?

    to be sure, it’s not the prices that net enough well to own and control said markets. it’s the whipsaws and prior knowledge that allows the inside trades that nets ALL the wealth. Ever hear of those morning gold fix meetings in london? perhaps we’ll soon have morning oil fix meetings too.

    and meanwhile the first, second and third world populations get shaken out too? these guys aren’t just running all the small player frackers out of business. they’re running the fracking industry out of business. and buying up all the frack poisoned land cheap from the small landholders. the rest of the economy’s taking it hard as well. a few decades ago, everyone in business, mfg, retail ranted about how high oil prices kill their business. for at least 9 years now it’s been all about how low prices kill business.

    i know more than a few large mfg units that layoff workers within days of gasoline prices dropping. their demand for forklifts, cars, packaging, food ingredients, all of it drops in proportion to oil prices dropping. american businesses need high oil prices or their work gets offshored to cheap labor zones and shipped into their markets.

    with high fuel prices, shipping costs warrant paying workers here. workers here in turn buy more stuff that they’ve been holding buying for lack of work. ya know, the kinda stuff they can hold off buying like, cars to replace their 15 year old beaters and food and clothes and… hence high oil prices, better economy. sure fuel costs take a bigger percentage of income, but that’s scads better than having no income.

    please keep in mind on this long rant that i’m still of the mind that it’s all one big and ridiculously long involved psy-op. it all seems to just provide bigger and better excuses for war, chaos, bail-ins, unshipped food, and on. but some of us are old enough to remember that all wars – please name one and prove me wrong – all wars
    are pretexted to wag the dogs. all dogs. all wars

    considering the extensive kabuki we’ve watched for decades, the only wars that they mean to wage in ernest are covert and speculated about here. regardless of how bloody they are, all wars we see are false flags. if we know about a war it’s a show on the stage they set for our benefit er fleecing.

    and when memory serves well enough, i can remember the shah getting dumped and replaced with clerics that cia put in place and then helped take hostages to rejuvinate an ailing conservative political base in the US. those iranians were way beyond tired of holding them hostages. small wonder they sent them home the instant reagan got inaugurated. and as heroic as putin is looking in western media (alternet and msm) he’s still paid and run by the same folk he and the rest were always paid and run by.

    so mr global looks like he’s about to shut down ghawar and they need an excuse or excuses (probably layers of excuses). then the seven sisters can come in and refrack where-ever national security tells them they can frack. and they’ll drill those gas fields in the med just off the occupied territories. any ideas on how long ghawar goes fallow before refilling with abiotic petrol?

    more importantly to us small less agile players in the US, any idea how hard the good cop bad cops (neolibneocons) are going to hit the domestic economy? it looks to be a redux of how the EU’s getting it now. the southwest and south look to be race-warred with immigrants and old blood feuds just as islam’s getting used now.

    • zendogbreath on January 25, 2016 at 12:22 am

      btw, thank you to all here for helping me put 2 and 31 together. these and other pieces have been floating around looking for a place to fit in the puzzle for a while.

      after reading all this, i’m thinking the marines and iranians were sent to rendezvous and neither had a clue they were being set up until someone leaked something. false flags baiting both sides can be stopped but it only takes one that’s not stopped to make the trapping worth while. like the sage says, crime that pays is crime that pays, even when it takes repeated and frequent expensive attempts before success.

      who knows though, realistic optimists like me have been known to be wrong.

      • zendogbreath on January 25, 2016 at 1:06 am

        er i meant crime that pays is crime that stays

  4. Pellevoisin on January 24, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    The part that has the hair standing up on the back of my neck is in the story details of the American diplomat defecting and saving Putin’s life, being baptised in the Russian Orthodox Church, and relocating to the Krym. There is more to this sequence than simple propaganda … it feels almost as if it were code for something else.

    Regarding the 2 navies…. it almost seems as if the U.S. Navy and the Iranian Navy have a common enemy … somewhere … and so they decided to deny that enemy the prize in the box of Cracker Jack.

  5. Bear Claw on January 24, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    “or if warnings are coming to Russia and Iran from inside the US command structure and Nuland herself no less, then someone and something else is an actor in the mix, and to my nose, it smells a lot like that Fascist International I’ve spent so much time writing and warning about.(JPF)

    But if the Russians hinted that Washington is being run by the Fascist International, why would this same Fascist International warn the Iranians of this covert op? IOW if it’s the Fascists stirring up trouble in UKraine against Russia’s interests, why would these same Fascists assist a major ally of Russia?

    • Robert Barricklow on January 24, 2016 at 8:16 pm

      Whose to say, that even in the Nazi International – everyone is on the same page? It appears there are a lot of factions out there, in various camps, running their own courses, at every given opportunity – the most obvious being in the U.S.
      When it comes to these very deep ops, the field becomes even more of a Alice In Wonderland landscape;
      where deceptions…
      runs silent,
      runs deep.

  6. goshawks on January 24, 2016 at 3:59 pm

    Mulling all-this over, the failed Marine ‘op’ now-appears to me to be an attempt to stage a ‘hostage crisis’. Taking a page from the Embassy-hostage stand-off during Carter’s term, various deep-state players may have hoped that Iran could be induced to hold the captured Marines. Given the asleep American public, this could have swung the American ‘mood’ far right. Good for some kind of attack against Iran, or at least resurrection of the sanctions. A clever ‘play’…

    I am even reconsidering my statements about the low-probability of an ISIS leader being on board, in this light. If an ISIS leader was ‘briefed’ in advance about this being an attempt to provoke a hostage crisis and subsequent downfall of Iran (and Syria), he might just have ‘volunteered’ for the mission. Patriot/martyr. Iran, seeing this guy on board, would have gone ballistic. They could be near-counted-on to ‘hold’ the bunch. Voilà, hostage crisis!

    Fortunately, strategic heads prevailed. The Iranians dropped the Marines back like a hot potato. Disappointed the deep-state players. Sigh.

    (I am intrigued whether the ISIS commander, if really there, was returned or kept…)

    • Roger on January 24, 2016 at 10:45 pm

      That’s what I suspect as well, but there still may be more to it. Hope the hidden hand in this mess doesn’t get too crazy and extreme in their next move to get their way with the Middle East; but as sure as the Sun will rise tomorrow they are no where near ready to give up.

  7. DownunderET on January 24, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Nuland and the Russians, who coulda known. I cringe every time I hear her name, and I don’t trust her with a passion. Whatever is going on here is “weird” to say the least, but a “split” in foreign policy is believable because Washington and the Pentagon have different “views” on just about everything. I’m going to sit on my hands with this one and see if anything pans out, but what ever it is, it’s BIG !!!

  8. EVERMORE on January 24, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    I still can’t find a better explanation for the incident than the one Dr Farrell just referenced here.

    The questions I posted on last weeks News and Views still stand:

    “…HOW did the Iranians somehow CAPTURE not 1 but 2 hi-speed, US “Riverine” ships, bristling with weapons and filled with hi-tech sonar, GPS etc etc equipment, carrying 10 seaman and supported by other US vessels – WITHOUT an exchange of gunfire???

    How did US Naval command LOOSE contact?

    How were they so EASILY captured?”

    It was definitely a covert op gone wrong, but even if the the Iranians and Russia were tipped off why DIDN’T it result at least in stand off between the 2 navies? (As in 2 sides all with guns raised but no one willing to take the first shot)

    And WHY on Earth would elite US marines, drop their weapons and surrender without a fight other than that ALL their hardware had failed or been disabled?

    Also I agree with ROGER’s comment that I may need to read the full version of the articles that Joseph brings to our attention not just his included excerpts.

  9. marcos toledo on January 24, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    Joseph you say elements within the US Military may have spilled the beans on this operation. But can Nutayahoo be sure that his vassals in in the Israeli Military-Intelligence didn’t send a secret message to the Iranians informing them of this action. And is this a sign of Victoria the Reckless coming to her senses or is Obama planning to use Madam Guillotine to dispose of all those pain in the ass that have been making his presidency hell.

  10. Nathan on January 24, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    It’s hard to know how much of this is real or BS, there are so many threads to follow in this tapestry, I agree with the factual infighting I mean the USA is a total mess right now

  11. Roger on January 24, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    It all could have been one big psyop to scare the Iranians into releasing the original prisoners that were released after the soldiers. Once you leak Obama has become obsessed with getting the release of Iran’s political prisoners at all cost including war. Then you stage something this crazy, what would you expect Iran to do? Might have all been a psyop to get the prisoners released and possibly win other goals in the future. Reminds me of watching a contestant of a high school after school scheduled fight trying to psych out the other contestant into not showing by acting and talking all crazy about what he’s going to do to him.

    • Roger on January 24, 2016 at 12:49 pm

      I need to start reading the full articles instead of just posted segments. Does kind of sound like the neo cons and their military and intelligence assets may have been up to their old tricks to rekindle trouble with Iran, but it failed because both the White House and Iran didn’t take the bait. Sounds like the Neo Cons are going to have to really up their game. I expect a lot more than usual funny business being played in this up coming election.

  12. Robert Barricklow on January 24, 2016 at 11:47 am

    The WW1 card and WW11 card worked extremely well for the stratospheric tip of the 1%’ers; so crime that pays, is crime that stays, even the third time around?[and war profiteering is its sine qua non]. The Godzilla of a derivative’s wrecking ball is swinging too close to call. Hence, they’re employing those crazies and letting out-of-the-box.
    Ironically, the Nazi International foiled their plans on that last major wet war run; are now a significant player once again in-the-mix. And I do mean mixing it up to the point that the nuts are flying off the handle; to Moscow to try and fix the leaks; under waters, waiting for the signal to pull the derivative’s trigger fixer; and God know what/where else these crazy nuts running the asylum have been up to?
    But rest assured, it’s for the benefit of the stratospheric few, at the expense of the whole shebang: the living planet earth herself.

    My, what a fine mess, these so-called leaders, have led us lemmings to the edge of.

  13. Aridzonan_13 on January 24, 2016 at 11:20 am

    It appears FedGov.Inc’s tactical compentency is going down the tubes in an effort to continue “War w/o End Amen”. Their inbreeding apparently, is starting to show too. Where in funding both sides of a war, the complexity gets a bit complicated. Especially when, those countries that are being affected by that war, find a way to fight back. However, I do believe we are going to see an expert bit of extortion by the BRICSA block, very shortly. To be filed under we’ll see.

  14. Lost on January 24, 2016 at 9:45 am

    Wouldn’t SPECTRE (or Hydra from Agent’s of Shield) want to sink something bigger than a couple patrol boats?

  15. MxFusion on January 24, 2016 at 9:28 am

    Sorry to be off topic, but a few minutes ago I logged in to give a comment on yesterday’s(January 23rd) topic on CERN and faster than light measurements and suddenly the blog disappeared!

    What happened?! Has anyone else noticed this?

    Something similar occurred at CERN back in 2011 and it was eventually dismissed as equipment malfunction. Was the news article dated January 24, 2016 a mistake?

    • sjy1969 on January 24, 2016 at 10:06 am

      The article referenced the now-debunked 2011 experiment.

      • MxFusion on January 24, 2016 at 12:34 pm

        Thanks, sjy1969. That’s what I thought might have happened and Joseph realized the article was outdated and deleted it. It’s the fault of the Telegraph newspaper in the UK, the editors should have vetted the article more carefully.

  16. basta on January 24, 2016 at 9:25 am

    Well the stories just keep getting crazier and crazier and have now reached sheer lunacy.

    However, there are a whole lotta lunatics in power, so this sort of wild disinfo/storytelling may have some truth in it somewhere. Just remember the tale of GHWBush with the birthday cake balanced on his knees in that SR-71 back in the day.

    Foiled joint Mossad-ZioCon false-flag plot to finally throw Iran under the bus? Sounds as plausible as anything else. After all, they’re crazy enough to concoct something so ludocrous and “nefarious” (to use the msm hot-button word of the moment). Certainly there’s massively increased awareness and resentment of Israel’s wag-the-dog influence over Washington. So an Israeli sub lurking and arch ZioCon Vicki “Cookies” Nudelman running around with her hair on fire worried that it will all go deep south makes as much sense of all this as anything.

  17. sjy1969 on January 24, 2016 at 8:37 am

    Interesting article cited but is it some kind of satirical column? The points it raises are more than troubling if true, but the tone of the whole thing makes it sound like it was phoned in from the Kremlin.

    • sjy1969 on January 24, 2016 at 8:39 am

      I’d have to add that I could say the same thing for more and more articles cited on here recently.

  18. kitona on January 24, 2016 at 8:20 am

    “…Iranian “hostage” crisis neabs…”

    What are “neabs”? Am I missing something or is this just another example of the Doctor’s sloppy writing?

    • WalkingDead on January 24, 2016 at 9:56 am

      We’ve already had this discussion. My thoughts on the matter are that Dr. Farrell’s site has drawn the attention of someone in the intelligence community and they have assigned some low level desk jockey to do a little “tweaking” on his posts. I seriously doubt that he would intentionally leave errors in his posts after our first discussion on this matter.
      Just my 2 cents worth on the topic.
      As far as today’s topic goes, it does appear that there is some division between the loyal elements within the Pentagon and the neocons/Zionist fascists at play here. One has to consider that all wars are banker wars and who those bankers actually are.
      Since they have virtually bankrupted the West with their fiat currency and now consider themselves to be their “owners”; which explains a lot about Israel’s not so covert influence within western governments, especially the US’s.
      The use of false flag events is a well known tactic used by the Israeli secret service for involving unwilling participants in starting wars and this would not be the first time the US was the target of such an operation.

    • sjy1969 on January 24, 2016 at 10:10 am

      Or it might be “fat finger syndrome”. M, B and N being next to each other on the keyboard. Read the sentence and it seems clear he intended to say “means”

      • zendogbreath on January 24, 2016 at 11:07 pm

        right sjy. slide the right hand from resting place with index finger on j over to index finger on h and type the word means. everyone does it.

        now since we know the bots got bots for watching the other bots who are watching us, can we all please let go of the grammar a bit and get on with what we know the bankster/intel network is apparently just fine with us learning or they’d have china syndromed us off this site ages ago?

        besides read some ben franklin or tom jefferson in the original script. they used different spellings for the same word on the same page all the time. granted spelling and grammar and punctuation are aids to speed reading. but whatever. let’s get on with the subject eh?

        by the way doc. nice catch.

        • zendogbreath on January 24, 2016 at 11:11 pm

          btw, the copy i read had means not neabs.

          • sjy1969 on January 25, 2016 at 4:58 am

            Well yes, he must have gone in and edited it. No conspiracy to see here.

            I’m not sure what the point of your post above was in response to a possible explanation of how it was a typo rather than some sort of intelligence mischief so I’m not even going to bother with that.

            Given that it’s been a topic of conversation in the comments though, it might have been helpful if he’d acknowledged the edit just to put to bed any of the more fanciful theories about what may have happened. Anyway, enough OT stuff from me. The main story is much more interesting.

          • Joseph P. Farrell on January 25, 2016 at 6:16 am

            It was just a typo folks… not a conspiracy. I’ve been having VERY bad computer problems for weeks… I think she’s on her last legs.

  19. DanaThomas on January 24, 2016 at 7:25 am

    It is probably not by chance that RT has just published videos about a Russian anti-sub vessel on patrol off Syria.

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