YOU TELL ME: MANDATORY DEPRESSION TESTS
Many of you have been sharing this strange story with me, and if this was not the 21st century USSA, I'd be disinclined to believe it, but since it is the 21st century USSA, I pass it along with my own high octane speculations:
Ron Paul Slams Government Plan For "Mandatory Depresssion Screening" Of All Americans
The first four paragraphs say it all, and are offering their own explanation for this latest expansion of "health care":
The United States Preventive Services Task Force recently recommended mandatory depression screening for all Americans. The task force wants to force health insurance companies to pay for the screening. Basic economics, as well as the Obamacare disaster, should have shown this task force that government health insurance mandates harm Americans.
Government health insurance mandates raise the price of health insurance. Consumers will respond to this increase by either choosing to not carry health insurance or by reducing their consumption of other goods and services. Imposing new health insurance mandates will thus make consumers, many of whom are already suffering from Obamacare’s costly mandates, worse off by forcing them to deviate from their preferred consumption patterns.
Mandatory depression screening will not just raise insurance costs. In order to ensure that the screening mandate is being properly implemented, the government will need to create a database containing the results of the screenings. Those anti-gun politicians who want to forbid anyone labeled “mentally ill” from owning a firearm will no doubt want to use this database as a tool to deprive individuals of their Second Amendment rights.
If the preventive task force has its way, Americans could lose their Second Amendment, and possibly other, rights simply because they happened to undergo their mandatory depression screening when they were coping with a loved one’s passing or a divorce, or simply having a bad day. As anyone who has been mistakenly placed on the terrorist watch list can attest, it is very difficult to get off a government database even when the government clearly is in error. Thus, anyone mistakenly labeled as depressed will have to spend a great deal of time and money in what may be a futile attempt to get his rights back.
Yes, that's right, mandatory depression screening, to be overseen by panels of the quackery known as psychiatry(which, incidentally, also has recently opined, Soviet-style, that beliefs in conspiracy theories, is a mental illness, unless of course, you were lucky enough to be on the 9/11 commission drafting the government's official conspiracy theory), could circumvent your access to a gun. And while we're at it, why stop at depression? Any number of mental maladies could do, vertigo, agoraphobia, you name it.
Well, you can see where this will go: with the entire population being diagnosed as mentally ill - and to be fair, it's looking more certain every day, if you've been following the presidential (s)election process and the lamestream American media - no one will be able to have a gun.
Now, while I share Mr. Paul's, and Zero Hedge's concerns here, I rather suspect the agenda is different, and that it's about more money for Big Pharma under the gusie of the new "health care" dictats: with everyone taking anti-depressants, possibly mandated by law, they make more money, and the drugged up, stuporific population becomese much easier to control as it if forced to pay for its own stuporification (if I may be allowed to coin that word).
But whatever the real motivation is, the end result is the same: welcome to the USSA, where we have no need for gulags. You're just psychologically ill if you oppose the policies of Big Brother. So we'll just throw you into a psychiatric hospital, where we've given former Soviet psychiatrists jobs as part of our jobs program.
See you on the flip side...
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Let me say right away that I think this is terrible for many reasons. Also, I am not very opinionated about gun rights. But I need to ask a question because I’m very confused. Why is it that people are so passionate about having guns? Over time, if done properly, not having the right to carry guns would reduce gun crime drastically, right? I feel like I read about a kid getting shot nearly every single day. I mean obviously police are a problem, and I get the idea of needing to defend yourself, but if it’s you vs. the cops in a gun fight, you’re going to for sure either die or go to prison, one way or the other. I personally am not afraid about my family’s security to any extent that would prompt me to buy a gun. Is there something wrong with me? If so many others are afraid, should I be as well? Am I missing something? Or is s it so that we can fight an armed revolution? I kind of doubt that’s feasible anymore, nor would I trust the outcomes in the short OR longterm if that were to happen anyways. I’m not necessarily against guns, but I didn’t come from a family that had or cared about guns, so I’d really like for you guys to inform me of why they are so important to keep around everywhere. Any words of wisdom?
Bankers, CEO ‘s and politicians first
Maybe I don’t have the pulse of the situation, not living in N. America, but I think that as the attempts multiply to impose more new and sometimes bizarre forms of control, there are correspondingly as many ways to “opt out” of the control paradigm. As Walking remarked, “No doubt you can fool some of the people some of the time; but fooling all of the people all of the time is pressing your luck a bit too far.”
Limiting gun ownership isn’t likely the only bird to take down with this one stone but it is likely one of their biggies. Profits for the pharmacuticals is likely just a bonus after all the owners also own the money press. I suspect its really leading up to forced medications of all kinds on everybody and slowly delivering life threatening side affects on those in any of the numerous undesirables data bases.
almost as easily administered as chip implanted kill switches
almost like buying michael hastings cars for all of us
I am pretty certain that it will ultimately be my multinational, globalist, progressivist, UN & US subservient-in-all-things,
ANTIPODE (in the main) to the Koch brothers EMPLOYER who will mandate depression tests for all personnel as a condition of employment, just as the completion of a W-4 Form for the purpose of payroll withholding is mandatory as a condition of employment.
Employers should withdraw their co-operation and employees their tacit consent to the evil and ENABLING payroll withholding system.
PS. It really doesn’t matter where you’re to, as long as you wind up in these forcibly united states.
anyone else here ever pee in a cup for your employer?
anyone here remember when that was impossible?
how’s that feel now?
don’t florida’s welfare recipients all take drug tests now? doesn’t it save florida from paying fail recipients on order of 3% of what it costs to test them all? and isn’t the family who owns the drug test mfg company married into florida state government administration?
who profits and crime that pays is crime that grows
There’s zero chance of this proposal even making it to a committee in the House or Senate, let alone to the floor for a vote. The gun lobby would kill it and the ACLU would be on it. Plus, the oligarchs like the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Tim Cook, Jamie Dimon, et. al., who practically call most of the shots in congress, would kill it.
Can you imagine the oligarchs and the otherwise rich quietly walking down to their local psychologist or psychiatrist, let alone the general populous, against their will? Not going to happen.
why would the oligarchs bother with such triflings?
the cooperativeness of every demographic is directly proportional to that demographic’s food/shelter/energy dependence on the authority in question.
and who is questioning what legislation and how such democratic institutions are passing with processes bringing on such as tpp…?
Ah, Hitler (or Stalin) would be proud.
They are already starting to spin the “Oregon standoff” in mental health terms, and one of the latest “school” shootings is supposedly a murder-suicide, so it is easy to see they are definitely headed in that direction. Sixty-four percent of all gun deaths are suicides, so they have a nice statistic ready for their use.
This is another of those multi-level ops – end the 2nd amendment, create a massive new database for control purposes, create forced medication for corporate profits, put the smaller health insurance companies over the edge in to bankruptcy (more concentration of power and money in health care), and create a precedent to allow “mental health” reasons of any ilk to deprive people of their rights, en masse (they can already do it individually, but it takes a tiresome court process).
In Oregon, we narrowly missed having a bill go through our legislature which would have allowed anonymous tips to the authorities to suspend 2nd amendment rights for 30 days at a time, without any notification of the victim, or due process of any kind whatsoever – all based on “mental health” concerns. That’s about as fascist as it gets. This is obviously part of a larger plan.
It’s odd – all the things preached to us about how the Soviet Union violated peoples’ basic human rights and made those commies so terrible are now just exactly the things our own politicians are doing to this country. Does this strike anyone else as strange?
I think we should start screening public servants for stupidity and disloyalty. That would eliminate more threats than these idiotic plans from on high.
I have to agree with Romanmel this was my first thought as well. Just ask the folks in California, if you have been to a shrink for any problem, even if it’s a family member and not the home owner they literally come with jack boots in swat gear and take your guns.
They would have a hard time doing mass confiscation but they are notorious for baby steps, and the frog in a pot of water concept. They will always start with the worst first and work themselves down to someone suffering with mild depression leading a normal life with medications.
This is another one of those cases where I hope I am wrong, but any government that will force the sale of weapons to drug cartels from gun shops with the claim of tracking and then discard the GPS trackers wouldn’t hesitate to use this to circumvent the second amendment.
Oh, give it a rest, Joseph! This is all due to lobbying by the APA and their cronies. Psychiatrists have to have jobs too, you know…
Wasn’t there a novel that came out in 1932-33 O yes “Brave New World”. As for the second amendment it won’t be worth the parchment it’s written on if our elites shut off the food supply try eating weapons and ammunition to sustain yourself. Well our elites can enjoy the show via those spybots from the television series Colony.
This would never pass, people wouldn’t stand for it.
More people are opting out of Obama care too and just paying the (cheaper) penalty.
Here is my 2 cents on this issue: It will not apply to Americans in the united States of America.
Because of the long term government monopoly on public education and the MSM bias and obfuscation, most Americans are unaware of the Act of 1871 which established the corporate USA in the 10 sq. miles of the District of Columbia and which gave this entity full legislative control of DC and the Territories. That is why there are 2 definitions of the United States in the Statutes and CFR.
However, to complicate things for most Americans the sheer act of participating in Social Security makes each participant an employee of the corporate United States via their Social Security (voluntary) franchise. And as an employee they can require us to do almost anything they can think up.
The only way to change this is to get a “divorce” from the corporate United States. Then as a constitutional citizen of the 50 states and not a statutory citizen of the USSA we can ignore these regulations.
Since none of the sheep actually know this and even fewer of those who do have actually done it; how well do you think that’s going to work in reality?
None of the law enforcement employees understand any of this by design nor do the judges presiding over the courts. You can yell and scream you’re not part of it all the way to jail, your documentation will simply be ignored, and you will end up unjustly imprisoned despite all your efforts to “divorce” yourself from the system.
Everything in the US, including your body and children was used as collateral for the loans they get from the privately owned Federal Reserve. Social security checks come directly from the IMF and the IRS is noting more than a collection agency for the IMF. It matters not that the constitutional amendment allowing the income tax was never properly ratified.
Until the 50 states bereft themselves of that 10 square miles and allow the banks for foreclose on it, since the corporate USA is the actual borrower, there really isn’t much that can be done about it. Before that can happen you would have to educate those sheep of the reality of the situation and then hope and pray that they would have the courage to do what’s required.
Wow, it’s getting really bad isn’t it? We are steam rolling right into full on fascism. I saw a good T-shirt a while back. It was a picture of George Orwell and it said “I wrote 1984 as a warning NOT a ____ instruction manual!!” P.S. +1 on USSA that’s a good one.
I mean if you believe in the Declaration of Independence you should be depressed w/ the Corporatized/National Security NWO that’s usurping all constitutions worldwide.
It’s a given…
The FIX Is IN!
Just as your under moderation is.
And Ron Paul has been shouting “buy gold” for the last 12 months, so consider the source.
Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Gold may be a fetish of Paul’s and you don’t have to listen to that–though lately it’s gone from 1080 to 1225, so that’s not bad, especially just trading the gold ETF.
The real issue is the confront of this totalitarian evil of trying to pump every single person in the US thru the psychs, who will probably exclaim 15% of who they see as needing a lifetime of drugs.
I have been screaming “silver” so I understand the desire to grab for something ‘solid’ like gold. And considering the source, I take Ron Paul’s analysis more seriously than any other in the political cesspool of the USA although I do so with some reservations.
This is exactly what I suspected when all these proposals to limit gun ownership because of “mental health” issues started circulating. Label almost everyone as such and there you have it. folks! It’s otherwise known as massive gun confiscation.
So the sociopaths, psychopaths, and career criminals running this country want to label the rest of us clinically insane and want to dope us into a stupor just so they can take away our guns? All of this based on just the “opinion” of quacks with no way to provide any kind of “lab test” to back up that “opinion” with government mandates, examination fees and monetary kickbacks from “big brother” and “big pharma” providing the incentive for a negative outcome of such “examinations” and the prescription of mind numbing drugs.
I guess the “fluoridation” of our drinking water isn’t cutting it anymore since most of us are waking up to that scam to rid corporations of toxic wastes at a profit rather than a loss; or “geoengineering” in order to dump toxic white coal ash on our heads
on a daily basis so they don’t have to pay for its proper disposal; or the forced feeding of amphetamines to our normally energetic children just because what passes for “educators” and “parents” today don’t want to have to deal with it and prefer instead to drug the children into a stupor.
And the “unwashed masses” which have been properly “programmed” by the “idiot box” and “lamestream media” or already doped by quacks calling themselves “psychiatrists” are going to go along with this?
How long before the “sheep” realize there are wolves among them? No doubt you can fool some of the people some of the time; but fooling all of the people all of the time is pressing your luck a bit too far.