This article was shared by Mr. T.M., and when I saw the title, I was tempted to dismiss is as but another version of the story we've all seen about those classified documents alleging a deep role of the (out)house of Saud in the events of 9/11. Indeed, as I have argued in my most recent book, Hidden Finance, Rogue Networks, and Secret Sorcery, there does appear to be a body of evidence connecting that odious and malodorous regime to the 9/11 attacks, and of its involvement at a deep level. THat said, I do not think at the deepest level, but at a deep one.

But to return to the main point: when I saw the article, I was inclined to dismiss it as "more on the same story" and hence to dismiss it. But that "little voice" told me I should read it anyway. I did so, and I was stunned, for there was a huge set of admissions in it..

Here's the article:

Saudi Arabia, 9/11, and what we know about the secret papers that could ignite a diplomatic war

The first admission in the article came here, and I was somewhat gratified to see that my suspicions were confirmed. Over a year ago, you'll recall, Prince Bandar, a prince of the (out)house, went to Russia to visit President Putin. At the time, not much was said in the media - either western or Russian - about what had transpired in the meetings. There was some speculation, and even some indication, that the "prince" was trying to patch up the always shaky Russo-Saudi relationship with offers to buy billions of dollars worth of Russian arms. Questions were raised when the prince of the (out)house returned, empty-handed. Russia wasn't selling. Then, slowly, speculation begain to circulate that the meeting wasn't as subdued as first reported.

And that now seems to be confirmed by this statement in the article:

In 2012 Prince Bandar was in the news over issues of terrorism. The Prince, by then the head of his country’s intelligence service, had been tasked by the Saudi King to organise the Syrian rebels. Bandar, at a meeting in Moscow, allegedly threatened Vladimir Putin that Chechen Islamists could be activated to carry out attacks on the upcoming Sochi Olympics unless the Russian president stopped his support for Assad.

Bandar was rebuffed by a furious Putin who threatened retaliation. Details of the meeting were leaked by the Kremlin, and the Prince was relieved of his Syrian responsibilities soon afterwards by the King.

In other words, Mr Putin was offering Russian arms to Saudi Arabia... free of charge, if there was ever any "terrorist" activity. One can imagine the scene: Mr. Putin plays Prince Blunder or whatever his name is a video of the Russian "Father of all Bombs" fuel-air bomb, and then says "we Russians love our artillery, and we regard nukes and fuel air bombs are just another form of it. Can you say 'carpet bombing', Prince Blunder, or whatever your name is?"

The article also confirms something else that most have speculated was the reason for the document's suppression by the G.W. Bush administration, and its continued blocking by the Obama administration: the close relationship of the Bush family to the (out)house of Saud: one can only work around an outhouse for so long, before the odor begins to stick:

Two Congressmen, both of whom have seen the secret document, are behind the bipartisan motion for declassification. Stephen Lynch, a Massachusetts Democrat, held that the report offers evidence of links between “certain Saudi individuals” and the terrorists behind the 2001 attacks. Walter Jones, a Republican, said it also sheds light on why President Bush was so opposed to publication : “It’s about the Bush administration and its relationship with the Saudis.”

By now, you're probably thinking, "Ok Farrell, nothing new here, so what's the big deal about this article? Where's the high octane speculation?" Well there is that part about another prince of the (out)house trying to bribe former New York City mayor Rudi Giuliani to keep him from supporting the effort to disclose the document. Then comes the bombshell, and with it, our high octane speculation:

The former mayor said he returned the cheque after tearing it up. He declared: “His money he can keep and go burn it in hell. The American people need to know exactly what was the role of the Saudi Arabia government in the attacks: we are entitled to know who killed our loved ones and who almost killed us all.” (Emphasis added)

Killed us all?!?!?

Wait a minute... all of whom? All New York City? All Americans?

My high octane speculation here is this: Giuliani's words are not hyperbole; they were a :slip of the tongue," and that slip of the tongue indicates that there may have been far deeper and much more sweeping threats against New York City and perhaps the entire country that day, than just a few airplanes slamming into buildings. tragic as those events were, they fell far short of "killing us all," and that means there was a much more serious threat on that day, and that somehow, the Saudis, or their associates, were involved...

... and that means, like it or not, that there was an even deeper layer to the sad events of that day.  And I strongly suspect that this is the real reason for those documents being kept secret to this day. That deeper layer may transcend the Saudis. There may indeed be something else hiding in the bushes... We know, now, of the nuclear and thermonuclear drills being conducted that day by the US military, for the Russians were monitoring them. But those drills may indicate that deeper layer, and more sophisticated methods of mass destruction that the Saudis, in their wildest wahhabist nightmares, can only aspire to.

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. cursichella on May 11, 2016 at 2:22 am

    Seems the 28 pages were originally just a diversionary bone thrown for 911 Truthers and families to muddy the waters so they’d focus less on Wall Street, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Dov Zakheim, the Bushes, the Pentagon’s missing multi-trillions, etc., and more on Middle East terrorists. Maybe an effort to splinter the 911 Truthers. Maybe to refresh the American public’s fears of terrorism.

    Remember, the existence of these papers and the effort to unclassify them came in early 2014-with decent Press coverage, then it sort of dropped off the radar. In Jan 2015 the effort to unclassify the pages was resurrected to much Press fanfare as if it were new news. Why twice?

    They’re dragging out the entire process with such drama. dashed hopes, that sort of thing. And all with CNN coverage, no less. Those in Congress with a vested interest in protecting the Official Story would have no problem quashing 28 pages if they wanted to, and there would be no problem preventing MSM’s reporting on it if they didn’t want the public to get all excited about it.

    I think this document serves multiple agendas.

    Domestic smoke and mirrors to appease the 911 Truthers/families, maintain focus on the Middle East/ terrorists. Mess with the Truth movement.

    ISIS has never caused problems for Israel, the Saudis and Israel have become awfully chummy and the entire ISIS narrative is pretty thin. Saudis fund them. We fund the Saudis…

    Israel has the goods on the majority of U.S. politicians. Everyone has dirt on everyone else. Israel had a ton to gain by 911.

    Remember, recently a NY Judge gave the green light to the 911 families to sue (Russian/Syrian ally) IRAN for the 911 attacks. (And that makes a whole lotta sense…)

    Twice in the past year, Russia has subtly threatened to release their satellite imagery from 9/11/2001 (and maybe they have something on Bengazi’s own 9/11?).

    Hillary’s email may/may not have been hacked (reports today say it was) by “Guccifer” or Israel or Russia or all of the above, and that would expose Bengazi.

    Guccifer is currently being held in a jail in VA.

    Bush Administration/Saudis

    U.S. Senate is considering a weapons export ban or major reduction to the Saudis. Low confidence in the dollar worldwide. Saudis backing away from Petrodollar? Uh oh.

    The 28 pages used for leveraging/posturing/blackmailing/retaliating…

  2. zendogbreath on May 10, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    everything points to prior knowledge for all the neocons and zionists. perhaps they got in deeper than they wanted for a brief time, just like governor connolly. perhaps they each in turn got worried they’d be hung out to dry as the oswald of the group as it happened. remember seeing the passive stunned look while w read “my pet goat”? remember oswald was on site and probably felt he was a shooter and was probably not the best shooter on site and not in the best position on site.

    cheney was probably the deepest neocon player. mossad signatures are all over it everywhere. and in the last 40? years has anyone seen evidence of any sincere israeli/saudi conflict? they are the same cartel. they barely pull off good cop bad cop to the rest of the world anymore. all and even cheney were probably surprised in private at the degree to which the drills were taken live. apparently they could have taken more drills live-er.

    w sat in a public place, then drove and flew around for hours? cheney was commanding military including air force in necessarily recurring stand down orders. guilliani was sitting in his command center on that floor of building 7 until just the right time to walk the streets? the list goes on.

    all after-action protocols and sop’s for faa, usdot,… pretty much every local and national authorized body’s sop’s on investigations after the fact were not just violated but completely thrown away and carefully run over and over and over to get all that steel to china, to pick up all those fragments off the front lawn of the pristine pentagram, to confiscate and eliminate all those 100+ video surveillance camera contents everywhere, even the faa control tower conversations,…

    wellstone was about the only congress critter to put up a sincere fight holding out for facts. his plane immediately crashed. the anthrax letters immediately came out. they were immediately identified as weaponized to a degree that only ussa bio weapons can be. and blamed later on a guy and lab completely incapable of doing that work.

    the layers go on. and look more plausible than the previous layer. then they get eventually seen through and it’s on to the next more plausible version of events. each time, too, there are details dug up like the israeli artists who rented entire floors of the towers for months while doing heavy alterations to the building – and oddly enough getting pictures out on the web later showing their handiwork on their floors. and years after that someone follows through enough to determine the pallets and pallets of boxes they’ve got lining their rooms are high tech seriously expensive fusing systems?

    the lists go on. various truths come up with various details. so what’s the point of all these details dribbled out over decades and layered with impossibilities disguised as new conspiracy theories? if we keep it simple and big picture enough – like aircraft fuel (kerosene) does not burn hot enough to melt steel – buildings do not collapse in on themselves 3 times over 2 aircraft – the buildings were in excellent shape (albeit it obsolete) and designed to withstand way worse problems. and on and on and on.

    so if we stick to these big picture obvious not denied facts and look at more like them, a few ideas come to mind.

    first, the truth is being stuck in our eye constantly. as if to intimidate us into submissive permission to do anything else just not that again. another idea is that we can and will be continuously buried in details. enough details and later on revisionist gafla to muddy our minds and our influence on the subject into perpetuity. almost enough to start a new religion to reign in and control a few more generations.

    and how much longer can folk like us talk to each other to this degree of accuracy while the revisionism continues and goes deeper and wider? after all we gotta see to our own survival (health insurance, retirement, jobs, kids, school,…) now perhaps i understand why there has not and probably will not be a rounding up of a bunch of political malcontents like us. there’s no need to. the political discontent will continue to be faded away and/or co-opted by elections, media and plain old i gotta go back to work now.

    perhaps half past human is being used to the ziocons to guage to what degree each layer of psyops needs to be released to keep the slow fade going.

    • goshawks on May 11, 2016 at 4:20 am

      ZDB: #1, that is probably the single-best ‘capsule summary’ of 9/11 I have yet read. Congrats! #2, how do you lead a charmed life around the mods? (grin)

      Truly, I believe TPTB are giving the public an in-your-face, single-finger-salute around 9/11. They are banking (hah!) on the public being too terrified to contemplate what 9/11 as-you-described really, really means. Total betrayal. And, the scope of it. Better to make like an ostrich, and avoid the red pill…

      (I did note the vast spread of disinformation theories to water-down and set-to-squabbling conspiracy factualists. It partially worked. Some authors have proposed sticking with just essential facts [such as yours] in the face of divide-and-conquer tactics. That may have to do, until somebody ‘rats out’ the Players [with proof] to save their own skin…)

      • zendogbreath on May 11, 2016 at 1:45 pm

        gracias. james corbett does it better. sibel edmonds does it longer. it takes a village eh? overall the thanks goes to darpa-net, right?

        which is the whole point here. why educate us this well if the goal is to terrify us into submission? it don’t take this much intel to submit folk. as it stands the vast majority of us are stuck in the “oh yeh i gotta get up in the morning for work” mode. and by the time they – er we are stripped of our ability to discern the difference we’ll also be stripped of our ability to respond in any meaningful manner to such atrocities.

        or has that point already been reached? hunger games dejavu?

      • zendogbreath on May 11, 2016 at 1:49 pm

        as to the mods, perhaps doc’s letting them go long on me with idea to let some of these rants get more ideas he can use for the next book. yeh right.

        btw joseph, if that were to happen, i’d be honored.

  3. Pellevoisin on May 10, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    Bandar was an intimate of the Bush dynasty, and well-loved by George W. Bush, and was affectionately called Bandar Bush………

    • goshawks on May 11, 2016 at 4:54 am

      Prince Bandar bin Sultan’s ‘coffin’ may look a lot like Saddam Hussein’s:

      I still remember when Saddam ‘asked’ Shrub the Elder if he could invade Kuwait. Our Ambassador effectively said to his face, “Sure, why not?” Betrayal soon followed.

      Some of the same ‘stink’ seems to be present around Bandar. “Sure, ‘invade’ Syria. Assad will run-away, I promise. While you’re at it, check out Yemen. You’re a big boy, now.” Slaps him on back…

      The only thing that puzzles me is whether screwing the whole House of Saud is a long-term, programmed ‘con’ (à la Saddam) or is being forced by 9/11-based political expediency (i.e., we truly don’t want to sacrifice you, but now we have to; sorry). Cold-hearted, either way…

      • zendogbreath on May 11, 2016 at 1:41 pm

        april glaspby dejavu all over again. albeit slower so it’s not as obvious to the rest of us. good point. still that’s gotta hurt bush holdings somewhat. just like bin laden had to divest from carlyle group to at least some degree after 911.

  4. goshawks on May 10, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    Depending on the year that Giuliani was approached, I believe that his exclamation, “…and who almost killed us all” may have been an honest response: (Giuliani was up to his eyeballs in the coverup.)

    rense dot com/general75/hotspot.htm

    This ‘threat’ has been overlooked/covered-up forever. Skim to the ‘indymedia’ article, and then contemplate…

  5. Robert Barricklow on May 10, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Many players involved in the criminal inside job.
    Many layers to the onion.
    Many purposes/goals achieved and still being played-out.
    Many fall guys. The 19 w/one pristine passport; Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, & other occupied territories to follow; The PATRIOT Act[Miss Liberty the fall guy therein]; and the soon to be Saudis. All involved on a need to know bases. Giuliani to cover-up the crime scene. All bein set-up for later, should the onion begin to unravel.
    At the deepest levels; even most of those probably involved would be surprised by that sinister truth.

    • Robert Barricklow on May 10, 2016 at 7:32 pm

      Not to mention a few Senators getting anthrax mail
      as a threat to sign on to the traitorous PATRIOT ACT.

      So the bases touched; or untouched…
      were covered.
      And even there, the patsies were lined-up as well.

      A Deep Rabbit-Hole indeed!

      Well that depends on where you want to get/
      The Cheshire Cat
      You may have noticed that I’m not all there myself.

  6. DownunderET on May 10, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    Saudi Arabia “may” have been involved in 9/11, but they didn’t bring down the towers, so lets keep our eye on the ball.

  7. old97polarcat on May 10, 2016 at 11:38 am

    Oh, and remember, Rudy Guiliani would never play stupid and feign anger for the press simply to place himself firmly in line with the bigger players. No, not Rudy. He’s not boot licker. He’s a straight up kind of guy and he had no prior knowledge of the attacks. None at all.

  8. marcos toledo on May 10, 2016 at 11:27 am

    Did Rudi Giuliani let slip what’s called a Freudian slip. If so what did he know and when did he know it. And who or whom are the Saudis really covering up for and may they be trying to dodge a date with the cement shoes or overcoat in a body water treatment themselves.

  9. Aridzonan_13 on May 10, 2016 at 8:39 am

    The House of Saud has purchased 2 Presidents outright and probably 2 more in a more stealthful manner. This is the price we pay for allowing oil to be our prime energy mover for 50 years past it’s technological expiration date.

  10. unclejed on May 10, 2016 at 7:42 am

    Sounds like someone else in Dealey Plaza a while ago who just happened to let slip …. “My God! They’ll kill us all … !!!” , lending some high octane speculation there was lot more going on than was dished up to the world? ….

  11. emlong on May 10, 2016 at 7:37 am

    Hard to know how much Rudy knew of 9/11 impending, but during and after the event he no doubt understood it was an op from very high up and that he had to fall in line and do what he was told such as his involvement in the destruction of the forensic evidence:

    He was thereafter obviously compromised as any kind of witness or commentator on the subject of 9/11. Rudy was like Bush – he had to be in position as a facilitator and blocker after the fact but probably only dimly knew that “something” was about to happen. It would also seem probable that the ultra-nasties who engineered the 9/11 op threatened and intimidated people like Giuliani and Bush with the prospect of even more awful attacks if they didn’t get with the program, so Giuliani may have just let slip stuff he heard told to him about why he had better toe the line.

  12. Neru on May 10, 2016 at 7:36 am

    I am still reeling of the consequenses of reading Hidden Finance ect..

    Sadly enough it is nightmare stuff and hopefully enough people one day will know the truth as more bits and pieces emerge.

    This story better not vanish in obscurity thru history!!

  13. basta on May 10, 2016 at 7:33 am

    Everyone who is “clamoring” (to use the [In-]dependent’s wording) for those 28 pages is a ZioCon or an AIPAC stooge.

    I read a very pertinent observation the other day on another comment thread to yet another “Saudis are to blame, free the 28 pages” article, which went something like this:

    It takes so much effort to concoct a plausible narrative to explain 911 when all you have to do is admit that the Zionists were at the heart of it.

    Carry on building that Tower.

  14. jplatt39 on May 10, 2016 at 6:28 am

    I admit I was a Dinkins supporter. No. Giuliani represented and spoke for the Police Union. I can’t believe he would know about “a more serious threat” in what is to a surprising extent a ramshackle city.

    I believe he knows, as he would, how fragile New York City’s infrastructure is and that this sort of comment – coming from him – would be a purely emotional outburst (a reasonable one but still unrelated to his knowledge of these things – whatever it is).

    I’m not saying there wasn’t a more serious threat, just that I still don’t believe Giuliani would know about it – his power was always local.

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