MORE COMING OUT ABOUT THE COUP IN TURKEY, AND SULTAN ERDOGAN'S PURGE

MORE COMING OUT ABOUT THE COUP IN TURKEY, AND SULTAN ERDOGAN’S ...

The coup and its aftermath in Turkey have been so dominating the news that my plans for scheduled blogs this week has been all but upended, but in any case, there are more things to consider as the news keeps coming out of Ottoman Turkey as the nutty Ottomaniac Sultan Erdogan rolls the clock back on the heritage of Kamal Attaturk. But first a review:

In Saturday's special News and Views from the Nefarium, I outlined four basic possibilities - which I also explicitly pointed out were not an exhaustive list - for the coup: (1) it was an internal affair staged by the Sultan himself, to strengthen his hand in Turkey, (2) It was an internal affair staged by other groups in Turkey, among which one might assume (a) the pro-secularizing camp, namely the military, which in Attaturk's vision was to be the guarantor of Turkey's Islamic secular republic, or (b) Fatullah Gulen's network, which doubtless included some of the military (interesting how the American media is saying he's simply a "cleric", a wonderfully benign term that reminds one of Archbishop Fulton Sheen), or (c) some other internal network, perhaps like Turkey's notorious "Grey Wolves", a nationalist, neo-Fascist "Turkish supremacist" group with its own murky background, including connections to the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II, and yes(here is comes) its own murky connections to Nazism and all of its wonderful throwback institutions.

Then there were two other basic possibilities(again not exhaustive, and in fact for an interesting take on things, see the YouTube comments on Saturday's special News and Views, as one lady offered yet two more plausible ideas): (3) the coup was external and staged by some external power, perhaps unhappy with the Sultan's sudden and sweeping reversal of policy by (a) apologizing to Russia and offering compensation to the famiuly of the Russian pilot, (b) wanting to normalize relations with Assad's Syria, and (3) restore the six year breach of relations with Isreal.  Such an about face was bound to have provoked someone, someone who wanted to see the continued rise of jihadism in the Middle East, and/or someone who wanted to see continued chaos in that region; and finally (4) an external coup staged, not by some external power, but rather, by some external group.

:With this context in mind, consider the following stories:

!1) The Sublime Porte is now blaming the USA for being involved in the plot, in addition to the "cleric" Fatullah Gulen, who lives in asylum status in Pennsylvania, and oh, guess what, he has ties to Hillary Clinton(no sir, no geopolitical fallout from her breach of the law with her emails here folks!):

Hillary Clinton Ties Emerge to Turk That Erdoğan Accuses of Plotting the Attempted Coup

Now, this raises an interesting possibility for high octane speculation: a US sponsored coup, connected to the Clintons, for the purposes of installing a "cleric" even wanting even more Turkish Islamicization than Sultan Erdogan?

(2) Whether the Sultan staged his own coup or not, he is certainly siezing upon the crisis as a crisis of opportunity to initiate a bloody purge of his own, and,yes, most of it appears to be directed any anyone in the Turkish government who favors more secularization:

Crocodile tears? Turkish president Erdogan breaks down in tears at coup victim's funeral as he calls his opponents a 'virus' who must be purged

(3) As noted above, the Sublime Porte is blaming US-based "cleric" Fatullah Gulen for being behind the plot, and has demanded extradition, which, as of now, the USA is has refused. Now, leaving aside the nasty question of why the USA would be giving asylum to such an individual, note that the Sublime Porte has now apparently shut down the power and access to the US Air Force base at Incirlik, Turkey, and is not allowing US flights and bombing missions against ISIS to continue:

Turkey Suspends All US Operations Against ISIS At Incirlik Airbase, Which Vaults B61 Nuclear Bombs

This, to my mind, is the most extraordinary story yet about this whole mess, for on the one hand, prior to the coup attempt (if indeed that is what it was), the Sultan appeared to be ready to reverse his policy across the board, and the way the timing looked, he was doing so perhaps in concert with the then-upcoming visit of Secretary of State Ketchup Kerry to Moscow, where indeed the USSA and Russian Federation agreed to cooperate in their anti-terrorism efforts and to table the "Assad must go before anything else can happen" position it had clinged to like a barnacle on a sinking ship. The Sublime Porte's reversal vis-a-vis Syro-Turkish relations could be seen as a compliment to the wider reversal.

But if that's the case, then why is the Sultan now making egregiously threatening moves against the US air base at Incirlik? Does he want an excuse to send a raiding party into the base to "get those nukes" before the US has a chance to dispose of them? Well, I don't think even the Sultan, corrupt and wacky as he is, is that stupid. So what's the game?

As of this moment, it appears to be (1) more Islamicization at home (i.e., consolidation of the Sultan's power) while (2) cooperating with the new pattern emerging between Russia and the USA. In one sense this butresses the idea that the coup may have been external, and led by some group or power that wants to see a continuation of chaos in the Middle East, so that ISIS-style jihadism will grow.

For the moment, I'm still leaning to the idea that this was a plot, not by the USSA-CIA-Gulen folks(after all, why overthrow someone who has signaled his intention to "play ball" with the USSA by reversing his OWN policies so sweepingly, and in concordance with the Kerry-Lavrov visit?), but by a group intent on sucking the USSA and Russia into the chaos of the Middle East and perhaps into conflict with each other. That would appeal to people with the warped and bent views of Daesh, or with the twisted delusions of Riyadh, or, for that matter, veterans' groups in and around San Carlos di Bariloche, Argentina...

The Sultan's reaction here is to my mind the key: he's acting not only like a corrupt nut -- and let's face it, we knew all along that not only was he a nut, but that he could give even Hillary Clinton lessons in corruption and lawlessness - he's acting like someone genuinely panicked, and who perceives himself surrounded by enemies, or who has suddenly woken up to the awareness that there are vast and deep cabals swirling around him.

See you on the flip side...

21 thoughts on “ MORE COMING OUT ABOUT THE COUP IN TURKEY, AND SULTAN ERDOGAN’S ...”

  1. “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” I think I have been ‘flagged’. goshawks – July 19, 2016 at 6:47 pm.

  2. There are two interesting analyses over at the Vineyard:
    The Saker’s:
    thesaker dot is/failed-coup-in-turkey-a-few-initial-thoughts/
    Pepe Escobar’s:
    thesaker dot is/hell-hath-no-fury-like-a-teflon-sultan-pepe-escpbar-on-turkey-coup/

    The Saker tends to believe it was purely an ‘outside’-instigated coup attempt, by the usual deep-state suspects.

    Escobar sees ‘foreknowledge’ in Erdogan’s willingness to fly over Turkey in the middle of a coup-attempt supposedly partly-instigated by his own air force. Since the primary goal in any coup is to take out the leader FIRST, this would give his opponents a clear shot at him. That, plus the ineptness of the coup-attempt, causes Escobar to come down on the fake – or at least managed – side.

    When I heard about the 42 supposedly-missing helicopters, the first thing that jumped to my mind was the years-back attempt to ‘ship’ (via B-52 carriage) nuclear-tipped cruise-missile warheads overseas (probably to the nation Joseph believes is geopolitically innocent). This treason was coordinated at the highest level, so I believe the 42 supposedly-missing helicopters will also fall into this category…

  3. The use of ‘failed’ military coups or failed assassination attempts have been used by every major Dictator in modern History in order to assuage their power and grip. People ought not to be asking why, but why has it taken him this long.
    Then tell the populace, and repeat and repeat and repeat, that its the other guys fault. I find myself thinking of Goebbels… again.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujail_Massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_September_Movement

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRR……

    With Brexit shaking Europe, and Mr Erdogan running to the Russians.. Is Mr Erdogan putting nukes into Deash/ISIS’s hands in order to justify an all out push by western forces in the middle east in order to exhaust their ressources and leave the 1st world open to Mr Putin’s Mighty Red Gang of Thugs.. sorry Red Army. Ahhh pass me the Tin Foil.. I’m making hats..

  4. 42 missing helicopters …. An Heptarchic king and his 42 ministers … who appear hidden, departed, lost, or taken … the 42 months of the Antichrist’s rule… the name Nimrod … the Tower of Babel…

    How confused do we feel by this particular ritual act?

    Just thinking out loud with Enochians, the Tanakh, and the Apocalypse…

    1. Interesting to say the least. If I were these two individuals I would find a secure place to hide. The bankers typically make short work of anyone interfering with their “money” monopoly.

      I’m of the opinion that the technology to do this has existed for quite some time.

      Here’s another method, though not cost effective:

      http://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/15541/turn-lead-into-gold-via-radioactive-decay

      I have even read somewhere that suspending lead inside a pyramid will turn it to gold over time, just can’t locate the article at the moment.

      So; the odds of the black projects world not having some form of transmutation process are probably fairly low and one of the reasons no one can get a handle on just how much gold has been mined or actually exists.

      Considering how much is used annually in the electronics and jewelry industries, one would think that supply would be leveling out or even starting to decline, yet that isn’t the case. We are still mining/producing(?) more than we are using; the earth is still belching it out of volcanos on a regular basis; and we haven’t located all of it yet to be mined.

      This does have practical applications for the rarer elements though. I just pray the technology isn’t suppressed as such technologies tend to be.

      1. Robert Barricklow

        Don’t forget the fabled Rumplestiltskin.

        This is an ancient technology.
        Alchemy can do wonders; biologically as well.
        Black Magic in the Arthur C. Clarke vein.

    2. Well, there are rumors that silver will one day be more valuable than gold. Depends on how cheap and efficient this process becomes. Silver might not be valuable enough to be transmuted or perhaps silver is the most difficult to transmute into. There are rumored to be other methods, some much cheaper and simpler but if you have a vested interest in precious metals its not in our best interest to play with this until we do away with financial caste systems. I like Star Trek because in that future only truly extraordinary individuals are held with esteem because of their works and merits and not their inheritance. But also everyone is equal and everyone is comfortably taken care of and granted access to the best of everything technology has to offer and not coerced into a life of exploitation by others.

  5. Gillian Grannum

    Erdogan holds highly strategic territory in the Middle East. He thought doing America’s bidding would bring Turkey and himself the greatest prestige – until he got wind of this coup from Russia.

    His about-face favors Russia and Syria to the detriment of the USA.

    The 42 missing helicopters are interesting. Were they missing BEFORE Erdogan closed the airbase? Was he told by his new Ear Whisperer that he needed to act quickly or else nukes would fall into the hands of terrorist? Was THIS the plot uncovered by the Ruskies that, if successful, would arm the terrorists with nuclear weapons to take out Syria?

    More questions than answers at this point. g

    1. Gillian: Yes & No. Yes, for sure, Russia talked with Erdogan about the coup in advance; however, Erdogan already knew that US/CIA+ planned a coup — since at least December 2015. Now: Maybe an Erdogan LIHOP.

      For proof on above, see Sibel Edmonds & James Corbett (yesterday) at http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1193-sibel-edmonds-dissects-the-turkish-coup — and the show-notes linked stories.

      Erdogan’s reaction to the US/CIA+ ‘practice coup’ will now probably be used to orchestrate Erdogan’s ouster via another coup, assassination, uprisings and/or concerted efforts with/by domestic & foreign others.

      Although Sibel doesn’t always get it 100% correct, her before-during-after facts about the Erdogan coup attempt are congruent with Bill Engdahl, Russian officials & media, and others.

      Sibel Edmonds & VT’s Dr. Kevin Barrett say that, although Erdogan is bad, alternatives are worse. MSM & Alt.Media bought the story that “Erdogan Must Go” and “Erdogan’s Fake Coup.” Me too. Disheartening.

  6. Obliquely agreeing with Joseph about the Turk coup, F. William Engdahl says ‘CIA Did It.’ Link below. A much less competent CIA than yesteryear.

    In part, Bush-Clinton/NeoCon CIA = Fascist/Nazi Mafia — probably NOT working with the Rotten-Child Khazarian Mafia (RKM). Not now.

    Engdahl does not (yet) see the possible role of the Fascist/Nazi Mafia. So? Saying “CIA” is almost equivalent.

    As per Engdahl, the result of the failed coup may be that Erdogan moves even closer to Russia, which has a more democratic-autonomy-promoting foreign policy than does the U.S.

  7. By now the “Sultan” has a good idea of who was behind the attempted coup.
    Now if he gets one wiff that the US had a hand in it, then it’s all over for 1) the US air base and 2) it’s membership of NATO.
    So it’s Yankee go home and hello Mr. Putin.

  8. Does ISIS really have as much money behind them as is reported, what was it 300 trillion dollars? From what I’ve been reading it seems that they’ve infiltrated into Turkeys systems of government and possibly military. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but if so, then what about their hand in this? If they are connected to the Argentine clan and working together with them, then I think we’re in trouble.

  9. Can the most lusted after Gotterdammerung be that far behind. The CSA itself wish’s to return to a Dark Age mindset with witch finder generals running amuck think fundamentalist armed with nukes, biological weapons end of the World fantasies. Could Erdogan be facing what you outline George W. Bush faced in your latest book from AVU on 9/11 or a Reichstag fire event yes Cui Bono.

  10. Cui bono?

    Well, on the face of it, Erdogan, who gets to clean house and consolidate his sultinate.

    But, and this is a much bigger but — and in fact there are several layers of buts that grow exponentially in importance — there are much more important geostrategic and even fundamentally damaging implications to the Western wordview that come into play here.

    *First, Turkey is now damaged goods. Fundamentally so. To paraphrase the Soup Nazi, “No EU for you!” And quite possibly, “No more NATO for you!”

    You have loose helicopters, loose F-16s, a major NATO airbase on lockdown, maybe even loose nukes. It’s a clown show, but no one is laughing.

    *The Soros Gollums’ Open Society weaponized ME refugee crisis of opportunity has now been kicked into overdrive. Turkey is destabilized and the floodgates are now reopened.

    *Merkel looks even more the fool (or co-conspirator) for forking over +3 billion euros to this tin-pot dictator.

    *We’ve learned that, true or not, Kerry has admitted the State Dept. was caught flat-footed by the coup. Either he is lying or the US’s much-vaunted intelligence network is worthless, or there is infighting at the highest echelons of the US power structure that has effectively paralyzed it. And obviously, the US’s international reputation is further tarnished with such a damaging admission.

    *Finally, and what I see as most damaging of all, the idea of a government-sponsored false flag is being openly discussed throughout the Western media. It is literally a top headline everywhere. You even have a top EU official accusing Erdogan of staging his own coup.

    Whoopsie! Well that particular cat has been let out of the bag, and good luck to the organists of the Mighty Wurlitzer in getting it back in. You’re going to need that little amnesia gadget from Men in Black to erase the idea now planted in the mass public”s mind that false flags are a tool used by governments to forward their agendas.

    So, do the math. Who is ultimately behind this? Cui bono?

    Sure looks to me like the smartest chessplayers out there, who have consistently run rings around the US pigeons (and no, I don’t mean Nazi boogeymen lurking in Argentina!)

  11. johnycomelately

    I’m seeing two interesting connections.

    The Istanbul airport terrorist bombing was done by Erdogan’s Islamist network operating in Russia (Ingush, Dagestanis, Chechen, Turkmen, Tartars etc.), this network has been infiltrated and hijacked by either the Kemalist/Gulenists or the Russians and turned on their handlers. This spooked Erdogan and the deep state big time (just like the Boston bombings).

    The CIA deep state and Mossad forewarned Erdogan that this network has been compromised and forced his hand to flush out the secularists (who were gamed by the same network to prematurely pursue the coup).

    End result? Turkey just experienced its version of ‘the night of the long knives’.

  12. BetelgeuseT-1

    It is now being reported that 42(!) helicopters have gone missing from Incirlik.
    How can 42 helicopters just go missing?
    If true, then this was clearly planned, and cutting the power to the base was done to enable it to happen.
    Was therefore one purpose of the “coup” to get those helicopters and whatever may have been on board (nukes, anyone…?).
    I don’t think these will be used in a 2nd coup as is being reported.
    I’ll bet that these helicopters and their contents are on their way into Syria to be delivered to Daesh or whichever mercenary group is going to use them against Assad.
    The battle for Syria has been heating up again, the mercenaries have re-grouped and been re-armed. I just hope – and pray – it’s not going to go nuclear.

    Again, lets see how things play out over the next days&weeks.

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