TIDBIT: BE PATIENT!
July 16, 2016 / /
Folks be patient with me today... as the Turkish coup attempt is in the news I've been up all night trying to digest it, including a last minute unscheduled appearance on Richard Hoagland's radio show as part of a panel discussion on its possible implications. The blog for today will most likely be delayed because of this
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Nope, still no joy, comment awaiting moderation, July 16, 9:42pm.
The purpose of this moderation business is now becoming clear.
Leave it in moderation long enough so the comment will not appear in the main comments section. Whatever the reason may be.
There was no offensive language of any kind in this post, so that leaves the reason that my opinion is not considered acceptable.
I would like to see Dr Farrell make a comment on this moderation issue. There is clearly a restriction of free expression taking place on this site, either intentional or not.
BetelgeuseT-1, the changing of the format of the site to restrict “Recent Opinions” comments to that-days Farrell postings implies that the designer of the site is complicit with the ‘moderation issue’ which you described. Either Joseph is too occupied to bother overseeing his site-architecture, or he is also involved…
So the “coup” failed.
Clearly, earlier reports that Erdogan was gone were premature and incorrect (perhaps deliberate, to add to the confusion?). I had based my earlier comment in the N&V on those reports. Now it’s all different again.
I agree with other comments here, the “coup” was in effect a false flag to cement Erdogan’s position.
It will still be interesting to see what is going to unfold over the next days&weeks.
Is it perhaps not just about the partition of Syria but also of Turkey?
Divide & Conquer, Tried & True.
Turkey being set up for change once the NeoNaZion Hitlary is in office?
Which seems to be a given with Trump doing what is expected of him as the Trojan Horse.
Comment is awaiting moderation, July 16, 6:40pm.
And just like Robert said, even replies to other comments appear out-of-place.
That censor bot has truly turned the afterburners on now.
OK, try again like this then. Specific reference to an International Order and past villain removed.
Is it perhaps not just about the partition of Syria but also of Turkey?
Divide & Conquer, Tried & True.
Turkey being set up for change once The Chosen Female one (you know who) is in office?
Which seems to be a given with Trump doing what is expected of him as the Trojan Horse.
Betelgeuse T-1
I’m now christening this censor purposed annoyance to the free-flow of our ideas being exchanged in a spontaneous atmosphere as:
Dermotobia homis/the human botfly.
Symbolically supporting, abetting & mimicking
the systemic parasitic nature of the current PTB.
If you want to find out about Gulen, then read or listen to William F. Engdahl who has researched him, and tells a very in depth study of this character, who btw runs muslim schools all over the middle east.
He lives in a very large complex in Pa, and is said to be worth billions.
Found it strange to read that the power has been cut to Incirlik Airbase, I can understand restricting access on to and off of the base along with closing the airspace, but cutting the power seems very odd, or convenient if there is more going on than meets the eye. No power = no surveillance, coupled with closed airspace and restricted access is disturbing given the number of nuclear weapons that are held there. Everything about this ‘coup’ seems deeply suspicious, with the air of a staged event. More to come out in the wash I believe.
Oh wow … news report at Sputnik is now openly blaming a ‘PARALLEL STATE’ driven by that cleric Fethullah Gulen as responsible both for yesterday’s coup attempt AND the original incident of the shoot-down of the Russian pilot last year. Think: ‘breakaway civilization’ or extra-territorial Nazi Fascist International.
Quote:
“”It was the ‘parallel state’ that has deteriorated our relations with Russia. It was an incident, in which one of the pilots of this structures has participated, I guarantee it. He was one of the coup’s participants. We have not voiced it until now. But I, Melih Gokcek, say that our relations have been deteriorated by these villains,” Gokcek said, as quoted by CNN Turk.
He added that the “parallel state” intended to isolate Turkey in the international arena.
Relations between Russia and Turkey deteriorated when the Russian Su-24 attack aircraft was shot on November 24, 2015, by a Turkish fighter near the Turkish border in Syria.””
July 16, 2016, from:
sputniknews-dot-com
/middleeast/20160716/1043108695/turkey-coup-pilot-russia.html
I had posted in my status matter relating to this. Do rest well and take care of yourself, Dr. Farrell.
I suggest that it was a known Erdogan AKP operation meant to fish out sympathisers with the coup and meant to further establish Erdogan in a proto-Sultanate. Today Erdogan’s rhetoric has been a matter of invoking the Ottoman era
Second, it was meant to strengthen Erdogan’s control and to short-circuit efforts underway to remove him.
Family are in Turkey on holiday, and report crowds of men marching through the street chanting frightening Islamic slogans that are very much akin to Daesh/ISIS slogans and many, many shops and restaurants shuttered.
It seems to me that Erdogan is intending to use this so-called coup to further insist that Turkish troops cannot be involved in NATO actions against Daesh… which is because Islamic State agents are everywhere in Turkey … and Erdogan is simply and clearly an ally of Daesh.
I would advise any Europeans, Australians, or North Americans to abandon holiday plans in Turkey and if they are in Turkey I would recommend leaving as soon as is possible. Matters are much worse now than I believe anyone understands.
I also want to underline the importance of what appeared to be a completely imprudent statement of support for Erdogan by Obama. Sultan Obama need not have said anything at all, but his statement fits in with Obama’s own romantic fantasy of Islam and the Caliphate. There are dimensions to Obama’s public statement in support of Erdogan as the ‘coup’ unfolded that make it a true disaster.
2 things are certain: Gulen had nothing to do with any of this coup d’etat theatre. And the USA and NATO should remove all of their personnel and material from Inçirlik as soon as possible.
Trying to listen to the Richard Hoagland/The Other Side of Midnight interview from last night. Good guests, but Hoagland has got to be the most egotistical, irritating host online. I don’t know why he bothers to have guests if he only uses them to remind him of something clever he would like to say, interrupting them after they start to open their mouths and NEVER letting them finish their thought.
It is amazing anything of substance got said here, but it did, in SPITE of Hoagland. But that would drive me mad, if I were a guest…
I agree with you Ramura, very rude guy RCH.
WalkingDead
my reply agreeing with your analyses was sent to the three day holding cell. Apparently these censor/bots/humans? are becoming more and more like filthy-annoying-flies.
Two of my replies agreeing with WalkingDead…
MIA
even out of place…
censor bots multiplying like annoying flies.
What actually occurred in Turkey can hardly be called a “coup”. Erdogan was conveniently out of the country; ME coups have pretty much always been successful; are far more ruthless; and are carried out far more professionally by the military. What we have here is some false flag terror designed to cement Erdogan’s power in place as “Sultan”. The simple fact that he is now purging all resistance against him and his policies should prove that. History has many similar instances of such occurrences.
The questions one should ask are why it has taken place at this particular time and who else stands to benefit from it other than Erdogan.
Your points are precise stated and absolutely true. Listening to Erdogan earlier it was as much of a pro-Ottoman anti-Attaturk harangue as I have heard to date. Mind you he would never speak against Attaturk openly or directly, but only an idiot would not understand what he is saying. I understand further members of the judiciary are being purged today. Erdogan will use this to fill his prisons with even more journalists, judges, and military personnel.
WalkingDead,
this scenario you’ve laid out appears to be the best bet. Given Dr. Farrell’s analyses of Turkey changing horses in midstream to the Russians, would necessitate a cleansing of those still following/under the US lead/influence.
Arrange a false flag…
before the real U.S. led coup.
I appreciate the content on your site, good doctor! Always patient.
Imagine this, guys. Erdogan knows that the A.G.A. (ancient group of assholes) sponsored ISIS stolen oil supply line being exposed by Putin puts him in danger. Erdogan knows that the AGA mean to sacrifice him and the rest of Turkey to push the ol’ war machine forward into any kind of conflict.
Putin meets with Erdogan. He tells Erdogan to switch sides and he will bail him out and help stave off any retaliation from the AGA.
An AGA retaliation happens in the form of a military coup executed by AGA agents inside the Turkish military and throughout. The coup is stopped and Erdogan goes about flushing all AGA agents out of his circle.
Chavez
Venezuela?
Marcos Toledo, it is always the innocents who pay the price for these elites shenanigans.
What coup if there is one rest assured Erdogan and his clique is more likely behind this kabuki theater. Unfortunately there seems to have been real deaths involved in this deadly performance.
If I’m up now, you can be up, Dr. Farrell (just kidding!)
The big development this morning is that Erdogan has cut off power to Incirlik airbase. The US (er, NAZI NATO CIA) is cut off from their own base. Vermin extinction in progress, as we theorized, yes?
Also, want to explore possible connection of cleric Gulen in Penn., who is fabulously wealthy and operates “schools” on US airbases, to Carl Duisburg Geselleschaft, or some similar fund? What you think?
RT.com and Wiki Leaks reporting that Gulen donates money to Hillary Clinton. MSM is getting awfully close to exposing presence of the Nazi Fascist International.
There are extremely dangerous ties between a few members of the Gulen Movement and the fascist elements in the USA and its CIA, but I think it would be a mistake to paint Gulen or the entire movement with any one brush.
Everything Turkish is somehow entangled with things German. Fascist links in Turkey were and are deep. But Erdogan has much clearer ties to the Fascist International (by way of the Muslim Brotherhood) than Gulen does for anyone willing to search those out. The AKP Party is filled with people from families who were involved with supporting the Third Reich during the Second World War.
To be completely honest, I have been rather obviously pro-Gulen because he is the only alternative to the AKP, Erdogan, and the Islamist State folk in Turkey… but I do not like Gulen, his movement, or its ties to the Deep State. In Dr. Farrell’s theory of 9/11 being a divorce decree between the German Fascist International and their previous allies in the USA, Gulen falls on the American side of the fascist coin, and Erdogan falls on the German side in my opinion. But I freely admit that I could be wrong. Until Dr. Farrell’s analysis there was simply too much I could not comprehend. Now I think I see a bit more clearly.
Gulen is a CIA operation.
Sibel Edmonds has a lot to say on this subject.
I listened to your appearance. Fascinating. I do have an issue with the idea this was ordered from abroad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves_(organization)
Erdogan always struck me as part of the populist wave which includes Trump, Thaksim Shinawatra and possibly Hugo Chavez. And Turkey’s history has been so violent until recently that the number of people from there who the media have associated with this or that assassination is staggering (Agca, who shot at John Paul II was a grey wolf). That Erdogan was elected in the first place and has lasted this long suggests the old political elite is losing it. Of course the reversal would provoke a coup. But it doesn’t have to be ordered by anyone. The level of anger and disgust about politics I’ve heard from people from there is rather intimidating. I believe we’re watching the end of the institutions Ataturk built.