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THE TRANSHUMANIST SCRAPBOOK: EU WANTS ROBOTS TO BE ABLE TO COPYRIGHT ...

Never one to allow any debate or discussion of an issue, the European Union now apparently has unveiled plans to allow robots to copyright their work, and to be able to make money, according to this article that was shared by many readers here. In fact, this story emerged during the Turkish coup, and I have wanted to blog about it but unfortunately the news bumped it off these pages for a while. But it is in my estimation a significant story, not only for what it explicitly states and portends, but for those things it does not say and that lie hidden, as it were, between the lines:

Robots allowed to trade money and claim copyright on their work under radical new EU plans

You'll note that, at least ostensibly, the plan is to free robots from "ownership":

Robots could be freed from their human masters and handed the power to own possessions under radical new EU plans.

Officials want to have machines declared as “electronic persons” amid fears they could challenge humanity for control of the Earth.

The plans would mean the robots could claim copyright on their work and trade money – effectively allowing them to form functional societies.

Their owners could be liable to pay social security for the machines to cover any damage caused.

Now, note what we have: (1) an assertion that robots are a new kind of person, the "electronic person", giving them the same status in law as corporations, and (2) this is being done to "free them from their human masters", and then, on the other hand (3) "their owners could be liable to pay social security for the machines to cover any damage caused."

Of course, we've come to expect such behavior from the EU: enact and regulate first, close off discussion and debate, and then allow a "debate" of sorts to take place after the fact.

However, you'll have noted the contradiction: these robots are to be freed of their human masters, who nonetheless remain liable for their "social security". So indulge my high octane speculation for a moment... what might be lurking in between the lines here? What I suspect is going on is this: (1) the corporation that makes the robots will force their owners to sign "licensing" agreements, (2) under these agreements, the robots make works and earn money, and the corporations receive a "cut of the action," while (3) the robots' owners are held liable for any damages robots might cause.

Pretty nifty arrangement, huh?

But at the heart of this plan are some egregious assumptions, and highly debatable ones at that: can machines be genuinely intelligent, can they be persons? And underlying this idea, of course, is the doctrine of corporate personhood: does the ability to perform a certain function really define personhood at all? Those genuinely familiar with the latter doctrine know its dubious theological roots in a doctrine that obtained in the Christian West, but not in the Christian East. So I'm bold to suggest, once again, that before we rush headlong and without adequate and genuinely democratic discussion of the issues involved, that this is a fundamental issue that needs to be addressed, for making robots "electronic persons" while holding their owners liable seems to be yet one more brick in the edifice of the power of international corporations. Robots, if one parses the language closely, appears to be the latest weapon of choice to loot and harvest the wealth of working people.

See you on the flip side...

16 thoughts on “ THE TRANSHUMANIST SCRAPBOOK: EU WANTS ROBOTS TO BE ABLE TO COPYRIGHT ...”

  1. No further proof is necessary to prove how dysfunctional and suppressing the EU is becoming. I see this as an attempt, if its serious, to discourage the use and ownership of robotics to smaller corporations and small buisinesses. The Globalist kingpins are going to try to monopolize all future technological benefits for themselves by making beurocratic red tape nightmares and expenses for everyone else with increasingly nut laws and regulations.

  2. I would see this ‘robotic rights’ garbage as a logical extension of the Corporate Personhood’s rights mindset. In turn, I would see the Corporate Personhood mindset as an extension of the arrogant, pilfering, controlling, International Bankster mindset. I would also see the International Bankster mindset as evidence of something inhuman, perhaps even non-human.

    I would boil the rights ‘argument’ down to whether or not something has a Soul. And by Soul, I am talking about an actual, non-physical ‘object’, not some legalistic mental-construct (which is more properly described as a thoughtform). If you have a Soul, you have certain Rights. If you do not, as in Corporations and possibly some International Banksters, you do not BY DEFINITION have those Rights.

    To actually implement the above, you need people advanced-enough to reliably see Souls. These people exist, just are mostly semi-hidden. Use these people to see whether Corporations have Souls. (Maybe even check-out certain people to see whether they have Souls.)

    (Most people’s Souls reside at the center of their back, around heart level – kind of an oddball, watermelon-shape. It is usually one-third inside the body and two-thirds projecting outside. This is not the heart chakra, but something ‘above’ all the chakras.)

    1. yeh g-hawks. nice. will play with that soul more directly now that i have that image. thank you.

      these are way more logical progressions. they give a direction where it’s being taken. as with aridzonan, i don’t see alotta reason to put these kinds of motives, tactics, strategies and processes beyond human capacity. it probably doesn’t matter whether it’s alien or human. just the same, one’s humanity is most likely lost (making one inhuman) as one does what we are almost certainly seeing the roths and rocks carrying out.

      funny that the rights arguments come up as they do. just the fact that someone is discussing rights and trying to involve me in logical argument on them is curious. it immediately presumes that those rights are in question – aka in play – aka up for negotiation. which by the nature of logic makes them not so much rights eh? if a human can give up their rights, are they rights? are they still human? if a human does not observe someone’s rights….?

      ok you can see where this is going right? even more ironic is it makes the person asking such questions sound all flowers and light – a true vegan. right?

      a constitutional lawyer wrote something a few years back that caught my eye. something about how each constitutional right infringes on all the other rights in varying degrees when taken to a certain degree of extreme. seems like another version of killing the good with the perfect.

      feels the same here. granting rights to corporations and their drones is not about rights inherent to such constructs. it’s about removing rights of everyone else. at least on paper, in court and the financial system.

      if you’re considering having the see-er’s of souls doing the soul test to determine who gets the rights of those with souls, we can see where that’s gonna go pretty quick right? it’s not the votes that count it’s who counts the votes.

      1. “if you’re considering having the see-er’s of souls doing the soul test to determine who gets the rights of those with souls, we can see where that’s gonna go pretty quick right? it’s not the votes that count it’s who counts the votes.”

        Correct, but only if ‘the system’ remains top dog. I am assuming Other Forces may be in play, with considerably-enhanced resources…

  3. IMHO, there are androids that are light years ahead of current tech. There will be a huge shock / discontinuity when the more advanced tech is made known. Having an army of “TNG Datas” to do your bidding is a lot more cost effective than their human counter parts. Who are going to rebel. After the System discards them.. BTW, the Upper Mininon class is in revolt now. If this seems a bit out there. Remember, +$4.4T buys a lot of toys and if we are in what I believe to be a “Jupiter Rising” scenario. We have a lot of surprises to come. We are being harvested by a much larger Off-World.Inc.. My guess is the harvestig mechanism is AI based. The EMW, toxins in the food, drugs and air that we are assaulted by every day are the underpinnings of that system. Please note: I was once bitten by Frank Zappa and I grow strange mustaches on the full moon.

    1. thank you aridzonan,
      it’s a perspective i’ve danced around unconsciously too long. nasty. but nice to recognize it consciously. even nastier is my suspicion that the off-world.inc. is not so off world. break away groups have been predatory of their own species a long time. seems most of the media is all about scaring us with that possibility and covering up its obviousness.

      yep and to think zappa never appeared to have a clue about such basic ideas as clarified by weston price, francis pottenger and a long list (recently shrinking through domestic suicidings) of more natural healers who’ve seen through the rockefeller haze in medicine, nutrition,….

  4. The ultimate control freak wet dream the perfect slave and dumber than the dumbest rodent or roach. Welcome to the world of Fullmetal Alchemist humanity replace by artificial homunculus with pseudo rights which can be withdrawn by their masters at anytime their masters wish. Death-Lifeless existence more dead than any zombie nightmare that any writer of dystopias can be imagined. Welcome to the world of Robert Siverburg’s Tower of Glass or Shelly’s Frankenstein, Karl Capak’s RUR. By the way will things be better customers than us useless eaters.

  5. Robert Barricklow

    Before this even considered:
    1) Terminate Corporate Personhood
    2) Free the millions upon millions of current human slaves.

    1. Robert Barricklow

      It is no accident that our current financialized new economy rests upon the forceful extraction of minerals in places where laws do not work and criminals control everything.
      Nor is that, of all the numerous court cases of forced indentured worker to their creditors[slaveholders], there has NEVER been a case of charging a creditor with debt bondage or enslavement.

      1. Robert Barricklow

        And while we’re at it, let’s put that criminal financialized genie back into the nation-state bottle:
        Terminate Capital Fight!

        1. Robert Barricklow

          Just look at the human versus
          the corporations/capital
          in geographical containment/restrictions.

          and that inequality gap is not bound by geographical boundaries either; while, at the same time, it is exponential in growth.

    2. Robert Barricklow

      When you look in depth at this robotic proposal you see the endemic political processes of those in control who prosper from these very policies that are designed to bring about social abandonment & human destruction.

  6. “Robots, if one parses the language closely, appears to be the latest weapon of choice to loot and harvest the wealth of working people.”; sounds about right.
    You couldn’t ask for a more compliant workforce; after all, you program the robots to do exactly what you want them to do and they have no choice but to obey their programming. Self aware humans are not so compliant and tend to balk at slavery. Given the fact that there are far more of the unwashed masses than their would be masters; this poses a problem for them should those masses decide to rebel.
    It should be obvious by now to even the most dense that the elite are attempting to reduce the number of the unwashed masses to a more manageable number using every available means possible. One need only consider the first statement on the Georgia Guidestones to realize this, along with statements from elites like Bill Gates and his “if we do a really good job on vaccines” line of reasoning, along with agendas 21 and 2030, and the trade agreements currently being considered.
    It’s become obvious from the weaponization of vaccines, food, pharmaceuticals, the economy, etc. that the slow kill method is not working fast enough to suit them, so let’s have a nuclear war with Russia and China to get the job done a little faster. We can sit it out in our already prepared survival bunkers and reemerge afterwards to pick up the pieces. Until we can manage to get that war started, we will use the MSM to keep then afraid and their attention focused on false flag terror, the impending collapse of the economy, or anything else deemed useful to keep their attention focused away from the fact that we are robbing them blind and creating a world of debt slaves with our money from the vacuum.

      1. LOL, there are those who believe free energy does not exist. Money from thin air is a prime example of it.

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