FIRST THE DNC, THEN DARTH SOROS, NOW IT’S THE ...
OK... I admit it: all the recent hacks are just downright bizarre. First the Democrookery National Committee was hacked and its emails released, revealing a clear case of the DNC bending its own always-malleable "rules" to make sure Senator Sanders came nowhere near the nomination. Of course, if he did come too close to the needed delegates (and it appears he did), then the will of the people in the so-called party of the people can always be overturned by the Presidium's "super-delegates". The problem here is that the hack claims to have been done by a private group of cyber-vigilantes upset with the way things were being handled in the DNC in D.C.(that stands for District of Corruption, for all our foreign readership. And I know all the letters are probably confusing. The recitation of random letters and anagrams as if they are meaningful and decent English is an American thing, so bear with me, lol. rof, lmao, roflmao, &c.). Then, of course, we had the hack of Darth Soros, revealing a what roiling pustules of activities the Sith Lord has been up to recently, from the Ukraine, to European refugees, and support for his young apprentice, Darthillary. (Seriously, one can almost imagine him waving his fingers and shooting bolts of blue lightning, or at the minimum, saying "These are not the emails you're looking for.")
Well, now you can add the Reichsicherheithauptamt... I mean, the National Security Agency(NSA), to the list of hacked groups, in these articles shared by Mr. S.D., T.M., V.T., and others:
The NSA cyber-weapon auction is a total smokescreen — here's what's really going on
Here's why the supposed NSA 'hack' is unlike anything we've ever seen before
And lest we forget the bit about Darth Soros, here's that story:
Thousands of Soros docs released by alleged Russian-backed hackers
Now, before we get to today's HOS (high octane speculation), let's pause and consider WWH (What We Have):
- Who has been hacked? The DNC, Darth Soros, and now, the NSA.
- Who hacked them? Well, a strange assortment of "private groups", with the latest hack of the NSA claimed to have been done by a group calling itself "the Brokers' Group", after technicians for the Russian cyber-security firm Kaspersky supposedly uncovered the NSA's front group, which was called the "Equation Group." (See this Zero Hedge article: MYSTERIOUS GROUP HACKS NSA)
- WDTW? Well, it appears TW either to influence the American election, or in the last instance, just plain ole money, in the form of Bitcoin, for their efforts.
Now, all of this brings us to our HOS of the day. Suppose, for a moment, the Russians are behind all of this, which is indeed the CO(considered opinion) of the first two linked articles:
But experts say that this is all a smokescreen for a not-so-subtle message from Moscow to Washington: Don't mess with us.
"It's a smokescreen, there's nothing real about this," John Schindler, a former NSA analyst and counterintelligence officer, told Business Insider. "This is Moscow's way of upping the ante in the spy war, and sending a message no one can miss [which is] 'we have you penetrated, we've got you by the balls, don't push us.'"
He added: "The Russians are making a power play because they think they can right now."
The previously-unknown Shadow Brokers created a number of social-media accounts earlier this month on Reddit, Github, Twitter, and Imgur, before announcing on August 13 its "cyber weapon auction," which promised bidders a "full state sponsor tool set" from a hacking unit believed to be within the NSA known only as "The Equation Group."
It released a 234-megabyte archive on various file-sharing sites with one-half being free to view and use — which numerous experts say is legitimate — while the other half was encrypted. The winner of the auction, the group said, would get the decryption key.
But an auction for hacking tools and exploits is not something that ever happens, experts say. Instead, exploits are bought and sold on the black market for hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions of dollars, in private.
There's something else going on here, and it seems like it has nothing to do with a hacking group looking for cash.
And even Edward Snowden has joined the "Russians are Behind it" chorus:
Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden offered his opinion on the underlying message behind the "auction" in a series of tweets on Tuesday, notably pointing the finger at Russia as being behind it.
Now at one level, all this makes a great deal of sense, for after the DNC hack, party commissars were quick to point the finger of blame at Russia. That too makes sense, since the Russians know a Darthillary presidency might be more of the same neocon unipolarism we've seen since 9/11, on steroids. But, weighing in against this view is the fact that Darthillary expedited the shipment of refined uranium... to Russia. (And that raises questions of its own, for Russia is perfectly capable of refining uranium on its own. So was Russia acting as a middleman for someone else? Or just in a hurry to build more bombs for the inevitable showdown with the very person and her backers who expedited the sale?) My point here, is that the "Russians did it" chorus on the DNC hack is standing on shaky bleachers.
A Russian hack of Darth Soros makes eminent sense, and even more sense, than on the DNC. Soros' role, especially since his emails were released, in the Ukrainian mess, is well-known, as is Russia's outlawing of NGO groups (such as Soros'). From the Russian point of view, such groups are nothing but gangs, racketeering operations, and front groups for "revolutionary" activities enjoying the protection of western law, governments, and powerful patronage. In this context, a Russian hack of the NSA to send messages also makes sense.
But what if(here's our HOS) the meme of private groups being behind this is true after all? What would this mean? What would the implications be? It would first mean nothing less than that someone is spending time and money to infiltrate the NSA with humans, who then perform the requisite espionage and steal programs a files. Think, in other words, of Edward Snowden being a pattern, rather than an exception. It would mean, additionally, that someone views Darth Soros and groups like his as being a threat, and is willing to do something about it. And finally, it would mean something similar in the case of the DNC hacks, an activity made even more suspicious by the recent hints and suggestions of Julian Assange that murdered DNC computer expert Seth Rich may have been a source for those leaks.
So if these hacks are not the Russians but actual private groups, as the surface level of the narrative would have it, then who or what do these groups represent? My suspicion here is that they represent a faction within the American Deep State, within its intelligence services and military, that have been very dismayed with the course of performance under the neocons since 9/11. And if that assessment and high octane speculation has any element of the truth in it, then we are looking not only at more factional infighting within that deep state, but it also means Mr. Globals barque is beginning to spring some serious leaks.
See you on the flip side...
(Oh, and by the way, to put the readership at ease, I am not planning to write in anagrams, acrostics, and jumbles of letters in the future... "lol")
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I’m amazed that Snowden hasnt been ousted as a pedophile yet.. Or a cadavar traffiquing nuclear weapon/anthrax warlord who is the also the hidden son of Vladimir Putin…Or he hasnt suicided himself with 3 bullets to the brain.. or heart attacked himself to death..with a generalised cancer of everything.
A real American Hero. Luckily for him the Russians are willing to protect him from America.
What did he give us that we didn’t already know? db
Snowden gave the public the opportunity to demand that the
government abide with the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and that Obama’s administration of such activities were and are still a legitimate cause for Impeachment.
It is the principle, not necessarily the extent of the content.
db is spot on.
also who’s zooming who?
what does snowden still deliver that not only keeps him alive and well fed but in the public eye? more than that in the amuricin public eye?
At the very least, Russia keeping Snowden alive and well is a stick in the eye to various intelligence outfits…
not sure i agree or that the stick in the eye is sufficient to any degree.
guess i don’t trust vladimir that much yet. guess i wanna see more good thinks happen in syria and other places vlad touches. including the ussa.
and i wanna see him sitting next to stevie seagal less and fedor more.
Agree. I have never trusted Putin but some on here seem to think he is a savior of some sort. I think he is controlled by the oligarchs like all other leaders. Having said that, I trust our leaders even less. Again, he disclosed nothing more than any other whistle blower… oh except maybe the little greys. (Laugh) Maybe the next thing we will hear about will be something about Shitchin’s fictional writings. (laugh again).
absolutely right db, and wtf were people so “surprised” about anyway.
He provided physical evidence proof, not more of the same anecdotal ‘whistleblowing’ by ‘former’ contractors and operatives. Which by the way, several of those ‘formers’ have given him credit for accomplishing what they could not.
HL, I agree. Before Snowden, there was ‘plausible deniability’. Via Snowden, there was proof…
I just wish Snowden had not parked his files with Glenn Greenwald. I get the queasy feeling that the most-important revelations will never see the light of day…
c’mon g. you don’t think greenwald can be bought off by omidyar’s $300 mill do ya?
Great article and thought Doc. 😀
“If this SWAG is correct look for the USSA to scale down the rhetoric over China’s claims and offer to be a mediator in negotiations etc etc.”
tmk, the US never ratified the UNCLOS have they? I thought that was the major issue of the current race for the arctic? The US is the only global power to not ratify the treaty tmk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_SeaI see this as increasingly significant, between our laws/courts (maritime v. local gov.) but I haven’t been able to quite connect all the dots yet to my own satisfaction, and welcome anyone’s help in this endeavor.
@Robert Barricklow – I absolutely 100% agree, except the snowden part, i.e. he could be a role-model for some but imho, the jury is still out as to which side he’s on. Is it Mr. Globalist, or We the Peoples, we’ll have no way of knowing for a while.
“I don’t think any of these hacks are coming from Russian intelligence services. I think they are all domestic, home-grown, and that you have a number of mid-level Snowden-inspired whistleblowers deep in the bowels of the Deep State who have had enough and who have seen where things are going, and are leaking to expose and so stop the madness.”
” This has got people actually with a conscience to move beyond self-preservation to national or world preservation. Fence-sitters are no longer fence-sitters. Kudos.”
1. I agree this, as some of the global banking hacks before it, this is also an inside job. ( are we now supporting 2 deep states? – it would explain a lot. )
2. No one goes into one of the Alphabet agencies without a deep sense of patriotism. Additionally it is the exception, not the rule, these people can be turned into assets of another country. imho, it is much more likely some to become prey to those with ultra-national (nazism/neocon) interests first, but I believe this would be due to their underlying belief in nationalism and a factor of fear over-layed – the ‘we must stop the russians’ – type of mentality.
3. From global banking and stock markets to the dnc hacks, to the subjugation of our military to further the interests of foreign governments, where they are essentially fighting themselves.
Add the benefit of our credibility and national interests having been put in the lime-light of the world and one has to wonder:
For agencies that appreciate the finer points of espionage all the above has become very public.
3 years – is the measurement of technology know-how between our elite agencies and the public knowledge, ( at least it used to be ) I would venture this has, in very recent years, at the very least doubled. I’m not talking about the ssp, I’m referring to what is commonly used in the alphabets. Injection molding, manufactured cat-cable ends with extra chips and the whole placement of the IoT – the final stage to the orwellian state.
While we have seen applied technology progress in the last few years we’ve not really seen physical technology progress. Physical technology has been rather stagnant. This leads me to believe that either the Mr. Globalist is being challenged on multiple fronts & levels these days.
What we have seen is the systematic take-down of the USGov, (right or wrong is not the issue) and their ability to defend themselves from enemies both within-and-without. And to this the civil unrest of class/color warfare, economic warfare, health warfare and lets face it..Right now, we’re ripe for the picking, and imho, unfortunately. People right now are so confused as to what to believe they are shutting their eyes and who can blame them when they have children to raise and jobs to go to.
elaine o., a good analysis.
“What we have seen is the systematic take-down of the USGov…”
True. And this is not only the placement of darksiders within the govt structure, but a hollowing-out due to privatization of many formerly career positions and specialties. We would have a hard time reconstituting much of our knowledge-base. And this is a strategic, planned move…
“3 years – is the measurement of technology know-how between our elite agencies and the public knowledge…”
When I was in aerospace, there was a saying: Any visible program was two generations behind. The next generation was already-flying deep-black, and the next generation beyond-that was in development.
elaine o., I tried to respond, but “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” goshawks – August 23, 2016 at 7:20 am.
There’s an old saying in spook work: “Tie the can to the tail of the cat”. Then as the cat runs he makes quite a racket. Of course the real work isn’t being noticed.
So let’s say you are China and you have issues over territorial waters and you need the USSA to back off. You don’t want everyone coming after you so you “tie the can to the tail” of the Russian cat.
Now everyone thinks it was Russia and you can proceed to give a complete copy of what was take to the USSA intelligence community with the decryption keys nice and quietly. Oh Saul I have your spear and water jug.
If this SWAG is correct look for the USSA to scale down the rhetoric over China’s claims and offer to be a mediator in negotiations etc etc.
The coin of the realm keeps coming up
The military being privately contracted to hell.
” Intelligence ” ” ” ” ” .
Health, Banking, Education, Media, Energy, Outer-Space, Inner-Space, ect., etc.; and, if they have their way – the grey-space between your ears.
Those nations-states that still have a semblance of public sovereignty are continually being chipped away[being sold-out] by corrupted politicians.
Nowhere is the friction between factions more intense; than w/in the private sectors – for total control over the private & public spheres of power.
Intelligence is one of few primary keys to the Kingdom.
I don’t think any of these hacks are coming from Russian intelligence services. I think they are all domestic, home-grown, and that you have a number of mid-level Snowden-inspired whistleblowers deep in the bowels of the Deep State who have had enough and who have seen where things are going, and are leaking to expose and so stop the madness.
It all came unglued with HRC’s treasonous homebrew email server — serving up the highest state secrets, which had been literally copied from guarded clean rooms, to Clinton Foundation “donors” and not even password protected.
Well, undoubtedly that breathtakingly in-your-face corruption, uncovereded by the FBI who were too afraid to prosecute because it would expose the entire mafia pillaging going on and bring the whole sordid racket crashing down, nonetheless infuriated a number of cogs who keep the whole thing going and who follow the book and would be taken out and shot for far less.
So, considering that HRC was not punished but instead deemed untouchable and that the Deep State is determined to see her installed as POTUS despite her criminality, incompetence, psychopathy, dementia, etc. — you have insiders who are exposing the DeepState’s dirty secrets to expose the horror of it all.
And as for the NSA hack, apparently that could only have been done by an NSA insider, because the digital signatures on the documents shows that they came from inside and were brought out.
People are running around screaming “The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!” like it’s 1964 all over again, but this is just more over-the-top propaganda/disinfo in this post-Orwellian age.
basta, I think you have pretty-well covered the situation. Thanks.
I am one of those people who believes Snowden did his deed because of outrage at what was going-on around him (above him). A true US – and maybe world – citizen. (I am not so sure about those he filed his files with…)
I think that various inside-folk have sensed that the PTB are in an end-game press. The PTB believe that they have pretty-much locked-it-up, and are pushing hard for the goal line. This has got people actually with a conscience to move beyond self-preservation to national or world preservation. Fence-sitters are no longer fence-sitters. Kudos.
(Around the purported auction, I would be very wary. This has all the hallmarks of another honey-pot operation. I could see either tracking the prospective buyers, or ‘malware’ planted deep within the tools to compromise the users. Caveat emptor…)
b and g, bodovyas, nice logic progression. thank you.
add to that the apparently hardening press to pooch the domestic system in ussa. zika, vaccines, glyphsated food,…
annoying much when an alex jones spinoff like mike adams lays out such ominous stuff that could just be true enough?
while disappointing, it is at least ironic that most of what mike adams is putting out there reaffirms what we’re seeing –
Thanks goshawks & zdb
Re: the honey pot, that implies HRC would care about such old-fashioned concepts as protecting secrets and integrity, and that prety much puts a stop to it right there. She clearly cannot be bothered to pursue anything but her own sordid agenda.
Now what is so interesting in all this is that quite obviously the NSA and all the other cyber spooks knew from day one what she was up to, and so they surveilled the whole crime spree from the get-go. Now they may have set up a honey pot of their own and almost certainly did, but they did NOT bother to shut the operation down and the honey pot didn’t seem to lead to anything constructive at all. Perhaps the NSA simply demanded a cut of the action?
IDK what they DID do, if anything, and ultimately it just goes to show yet again that basic law enforcement doesn’t even enter into any of the the NSA’s “duties,” and makes the whole point ultimately moot, because nothing ever comes of anything the NSA does that does not benefit the Deep State Mafia, and ONLY the Deep State Mafia.
But clearly there’s mutiny on the USS Bounty.
basta, you put your finger on what was bothering me about the HRC home server:
1) HRC was/is not dumb; compromised likely, but not dumb. To not even password-protect a server loaded with sensitive data (let alone not firewall it, multiple ways) is ‘mysterious’ beyond belief…
2) Obviously, the HRC home server was sneaked-into by multiple domestic intelligence agencies from Day One. They knew what was on it from Day One. Various folks have said that there were above-top-secret documents on that server, which – even though now deleted – should have shown up in daily (hourly?) sweep-throughs. Unless those documents were for deception purposes (aka, Reagan’s disinformation-campaign around Star Wars), there should have been alarm bells ringing all over DC. Why no preemptive action?
In retrospect, HRC’s home server (and the inaction concerning it) might be what kicked-off the “mutiny on the USS Bounty.”
agreed g and basta
stupid is as stupid does – except when stupid is too stupid for wise folk to believe.
I agree, this is not the Russians this is domestic, and Hillary Rodham Clinton will demand that Obama launch World War III, throw
the world under the bus, rather than get caught, indicted and hung
for war crimes, etc.
If there the was a DNC hack it most likely a inside job. As always the real question is who really rules in Washington DC is it only the front capitol. Who knows where the real seat of power is and who is George Soros paymaster.
marcos, soros is high enough up in there that the paymaster can only be a few folk who are higher up, right? for what it’s worth, he escaped the holocaust apparently by the skin of his teeth – er at least enough skin on those teeth to afford the ticket to london school of economics.
does that make him related to mick jagger? well for sure it does make him related to someone with enough cash to put a poor wondering political refugee through school. at lse no less.
Whoops. Now I feel horrible about typing ‘omg’ in a previous comment. After thinking about it, I agree, its somehow dismissive in that it ruins emotional resonance.
almost as bad as emogies. yikes what a word.
The problem remains that the “Soros documents” cited by ZH looked faked, and now the Hill here is going out of its way to defend the likes of Pamela Geller, a party who pushed the wars in Arab world that lead directly to the refugee crisis in Europe.
Now yes, it makes sense that very powerful people within the US would be upset with Hillary Clinton’s push for war with Russia, Syria and Iran. (But of course that French guy, Soros, was upset with the push for the invasion of Iraq, Hillary wasn’t. All liberals and many conservatives didn’t like the idea either–yes Soros is French.)
French? What’s your source?
I’d like to know that one myself. Wikipedia, though much of the time has puffery pieces for bios and scrubbed info, lists Mr. Soros’ heritage as Hungarian/Jewish, from a non-practicing Jewish family.
It could be that there is a genetic linkage through either his father or mother to some French blood. If sagat1 has additional info along these lines, let’s see it.
My apologies to sagat1, I meant if Lost has any verified info that Soros has French ancestry in his blood, let’s see it. Though, I’m not sure what difference it will make at this point.
I didn’t say of French ancestry.
He’s a French citizen. He lives in New York. He was born in Hungary.
The point is that there’s more to the mix than saying that Soros is simply wealthy banker from NY.
Who cares what citizen group he elects. He is a globalist of the highest order and has taken down financial systems, started wars, funded anarchy, and is generally in league with Lucifer. I know that Lost keeps defending his desire to stay out of Iraq… ok, Lost. So on the Jeopardy quiz of what one good thought George Soros ever had, we can accept that invading Iraq was a bad idea. He is screwed down to the rest. Totally screwed into the idea of destroying anything positive in the UK and USA… and now, apparently, Russia, too.
As I said before, albeit in a nuanced manner: Soros just gave lip service to Iraq.
He probably made a killing there[financially, being just one aspect].
Lost, for what’s it’s worth, Soros is a naturalized citizen of the U.S. since 1961, according to answers.com:
“just a globalist”, you act as if national boundaries are a positive solution.
And claiming to know what Lucifer wants usually suggests a great familiarity with such things.
As for Soros ruining the USA, you really think that Soros is solely responsible for the worship of finance, have you not paid attention over the last 30 years. There are many other players, most tied the the “deregulation” frenzy of Reagan and Clinton. Yes Soros made money this way too.
The fact remains that Soros supported liberal groups against the invasion of Iraq, an invasion the world is still suffering the ill effects of.
Soros more than gave lip service to being against the Iraq war, if you had cash to invest, or credit, it was real easy to predict that the price of oil would increase in 2003, and that the US dollar would lose value against the euro. Many made money that way.
Indeed he likely also holds US citizenship.
I doubt Darth Soros Lost on the Iraq bets.
I think he is Hungarian, with dual citizenship.
as nice as one can say it lost, it’s looking more and more like your name is giving away your intent.
and after looking at these responses, that we’re falling for it too much
and getting lost in the process.
I miss Frankie… I don’t know why everyone always jumps down Lost’s throat though, she isn’t a shill. She has been here a long time, and she does call attention to certain things, maybe it’s just your tone Lost.
I like Lost’s input.
Although I disagree with it many times; I appreciate Lost’s input.
In a democracy of ideas being exchanged, there’s friction; and heated exchanges sometime fire-up the creative juices, and the unexpected happens.
My thought processes have changed through the years. Indeed many have either been sharpened here at this web site or steered onto a different course.
Many here miss Frankie – a treasure to read.
Hope to see Frankie’s return soon.
didn’t get to read frankie much. what i did see i liked.
don’t mind lost’s ideas even and especially when i disagree.
my point has simply been to be nicer and more direct. no one needs to argue at length. if i think someone’s point is lame, a simple link to a y/t or another site or a book ought to be enough to make the point for me.
without having to accuse anyone nor pile on anyone nor invite others to pile on here.
this is aimed at saving time.