JOINT RUSSO-AMERICAN SPACE PROJECTS ARE BECOMING MORE DETAILED

JOINT RUSSO-AMERICAN SPACE PROJECTS ARE BECOMING MORE DETAILED

Recall that yesterday I blogged about an article that was sent to me by Mr. T.M., and about my hypothesis that with nationalist trends on the rise globally, that Mr. Global might be signaling shifts in the strategy, from a bottom-up Earth-based approach, to a top-down space-based approach. Well, with that in mind, consider this article, also shared by Mr. T.M.:

Russian and US engineers plan manned moon mission

In the light of my hypothesis, consider the following statements :

Both American and Russian organizations are considering ways to return to space together, as long as the political relationship between the two nations doesn't deteriorate. The countries had been preparing to part ways after the ISS ceases operation in 2024.

NASA is developing its Orion spacecraft and the Space Launch System (SLS), a super-heavy rocket to be used for manned missions into space, possibly as far as Mars. NASA is also giving funds to companies like SpaceX to make excursions into orbit with reusable rockets.

A few years ago, the European Space Agency, (ESA) joined with NASA in a maintenance agreement to service the Orion propulsion module. But Russia, the second largest contributor to ISS, hasn't made any commitments beyond the time when its current obligations to the station are complete.

Russia's recent economic issues are said to have somewhat stymied the nation's space ventures, but the largest obstacle to space cooperation may be Moscow and Washington's current contentious relationship. Engineers at Roskomos (the Russian space agency) and NASA are working together, while traversing the problematic political terrain of their respective governments.

Russian space contractors, such as RKK Energia and GKNPTs Khrunichev, along with American companies like Lockheed Martin and Boeing, are developing several tentative missions in which both nations cohabitate in cislunar space near the Moon. Such missions may lay the groundwork for mining missions to asteroids.

Russian technologists are known to be deft at operating and developing space modules designed to sustain propulsion, as well as creating house crews, exactly the expertise the US needs. That sort of module would increase the Orion crew's living capacity beyond the small one-room compartments currently in use.

When consulting with their American counterparts, the Russians showcased hardware that will soon be available for building deep-space living quarters. For instance, ISS's small docking compartment, built by RKK Energia, could be adapted as a 10-ton addition to the habitat, and would include cargo space, sleeping quarters and a discrete life-support system. (Emphasis added)

But now I want you to perform a thought experiment: take that line in the first paragraph that I have italicized, and change it to this: "Both American and Russian organizations are considering ways to return to space together, because the political relationship between the two nations continues to deteriorate." With that change in mind, read the remainder of the quotation above, and you get the idea: major global corporations like Lockheed Martin and Boeing are teaming up with their Russian counterparts Energia to design a permanent space station in orbit between the Earth and  the moon as a large-scale permanent human presence and as a steppingstone  to permanent human colonies on that planet.

This is, indeed, a reminder of the policy of the Kennedy administration, when JFK in the last year of his life, proposed a joint Soviet-American mission to the Moon, not in spite of, but because of, the tensions on Earth between the two blocs. But there's something different here, and that is that this cooperation appears to be driven more by corporations, than governments. Granted, the Russian corporations are state-owned but they are corporations-cum-government agencies nonetheless. And this corporation-as-state-actor is very much in line with Mr. Global's standard dogma and modus operandi.

Geopolitically, and even from the point of  view of the soft power culture card, this makes sense: it would be much easier to impose global order on troubled regions from the high ground of space, than to do so from the one-dimensional operational theater of the Earth itself.

One wonders, however, what Mr. Global's reaction will be when the Patriarch of Moscow wants to visit to bless the first Orthodox church there...

See you on the flip side...

7 thoughts on “JOINT RUSSO-AMERICAN SPACE PROJECTS ARE BECOMING MORE DETAILED”

  1. I would take all this ‘sudden’ space cooperation as the US and Russia finally noticing that they are about to have a Chinese Moon:

    The Russian space program has been gutted by the low oil prices and thus ‘discretionary income’. The US space program has been gutted by the decades of neglect. Neither of them has a credible space presence anymore. Once the ISS is abandoned, we will be back to Yuri Gagarin days… (Although SpaceX is up and coming.)

    Contrast this with the Chinese, who have been plowing serious money into a buildup of both infrastructure and rockets. They envisioned a far-reaching plan and are executing it well. The Chinese obviously have a deep-space presence in mind…

    In my opinion, the TPB have finally noticed that the Chinese are not only serious but technically-proficient. And, they have a decade or so of momentum behind them, while the other two superpowers are effectively treading water.

    I see the ‘let’s make nice’ posture as a reality-check in order to cobble-together ONE space program to counter the Chinese program…

    1. g-hawks – questions –

      space-x demo videos of re-used rockets looks pooched. reminds me of thunderbirds

      yeh these guys
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lrqJg1Etmw

      not these guys
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjJl02byaJs

      feels more like musks need to hire back kubrick

      in other aspects, how is it possible these transnationals are not already working together?

      boeing gave their wing production to china more than a decade ago, right?

      what else are they and have they given away?

      and what in return?

  2. This sounds like the next logical step of Hoagland’s Cold-War model of the covert coordination of US/Russian space flights as stated corporate policy. In other words, what started out as a collaboration through private channels is now so firmly entrenched in multinational corporate agreements they supercede the sponsoring state’s goals. And, if the sponsoring state complains too strenuously, they relocate their operation to Dubai. In this case, though, I get the feeling that Russia will never relinquish the majority stock-holder’s position in their contribution and maintain a permanent veto. Their government appears more sensible these days in such important matters. Having been burned once with the collapse of the Soviet Union, they might be more cautious about this technology slipping through their fingers.

    Oh, my. Do I hear the Who? Is that “Won’t Get Fooled Again?” Cheerio.

  3. TPTB are just preparing after a nearly fifty year delay deliberately to do plunder in space. The joint cooperation in space idea cost JFK his life fifty years ago. Just wondering what change to put new life into that idea just know the rest of us won’t profit from this.

  4. Some things to consider:
    If we have, as proposed, different factions within what we are calling Mr. Global; if there are artifacts or bases on the moon, whether manned or unmanned which belong to “others”; if the weaponization of space is farther along than we have been lead to believe; or if Mr. Global has space faring capabilities far beyond our current mainstream capabilities, this may indicate some trust issues between the factions.
    Things of this nature are never what they seem to be on the surface.

    One has to wonder why, with all the probes and missions to the Moon and Mars, we have, supposedly, never explored the obvious anomalies on either destination. Why do we not have published photos of the dark side of the Moon and any anomalies found there. We have invested trillions of dollars and decades of time doing “science” that we could just as well have done on Earth for the most part.
    Just what is known or suspected that has them so tight lipped about it. Have we, indeed, been warned that some areas are off limits? Has some compromise between the factions been agreed upon that whatever is found would be shared to further their agendas should they actually be able to acquire it.
    Stay tuned…

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